#that antis who stumble across it just don't bother

[not-poignant]

You've been getting death threats? 😕 I'm so sorry that's happening to you. I fuxking hate antis man

Hi anon!

Thankfully not for a while now, but it does happen from time to time. I'm generally not targeted as much as some so I fly under the radar a lot, but I do filter out the majority of the hate and weirdness because I just don't see the point having it here / giving it a platform!

I hate how much damage abuse/bullying does, but I sadly can understand how people end up with fancop / anti mindsets, especially when young. It's very sort of logical to go from 'I hate pedophilia (or rape or incest)' (a normal response) to 'I hate anything that causes it (or rape or incest)' (a normal response) and then making an illogical leap to 'people who write about it in fiction deserve to die and I have a right to destroy them because they're basically as bad as the criminals because they create more criminals and are criminals themselves.'

It starts in the most logical place. And I gotta say, people love being able to hurt others under the banner of a sense of righteous anger. When you feel justified ethically, abusing others, you don't have to deal with shame or guilt in the same way as just targeting someone in highschool or college (or in the workplace). Instead you just get to profoundly dehumanise invisible folks in the internet, and feel like that's activism. That's disgusting, absolutely abhorrent, but I do understand how people get there.

I used to get a lot angrier about it on Twitter, and I still do sometimes, especially when I see the direct harm it causes our communities, when it suffocates creators (many of whom don't even want to draw or write this content, but just feel judged and starved out of fandom), or worse, destroys their lives. I'm very angry on behalf of the people who are scared to post fics or art etc. because of the antis in the fandom/s around them, because it's unfair, and it's hard to convince people to just 'post whatever you want' when it's realistic that some of those people will be abused for it.

So yeah, the hatred makes sense too. It's like...indefensible behaviour and so different to just having general NOTPs / squicks / not liking certain ships. But I do sometimes look at folks who take anti positions (especially the ones who don't realise they're doing it, because they're generally permissive of like 90% of stuff including a fair bit of problematic stuff except like One Thing they're triggered or squicked by), and think... 'You've been fearmongered into believing abusing real people is appropriate behaviour, and if you're lucky, you're one day going to have to deal with the shame and guilt that comes from knowing you've actively tried to destroy people's lives online, and have done harm to many vulnerable people in the process. That's going to be a hard journey for you, but if you make it through to the other side, you are going to feel so much better about yourself as a person, and so much less afraid of your own thoughts, and your intrusive thoughts, and it will be worth it, I promise.'

If they're unlucky, they never realise, and then we all pay the cost for someone who just lives in a state of moral panic forever :/

Anyway, for the most part I'm not really hurt by it personally because I a) have a background in university media studies and know that - scientifically speaking - antis are wrong about (nearly) everything they say, lmao, and b) can tell the difference between reality and fiction and know there's not a 1:1 correlation between the two, and c) I've experienced a lot of different kinds of abuse (sadly) and I can see most of it coming from a mile off these days and I'm not going to wear the shame and guilt people try to dump on me, because they're too juvenile or immature to process with and sit with their own discomfort that others are different to them and have different taboo fantasies to them.

Tl;dr anon - I'm doing okay! Antis do a lot of damage. I get where they're coming from but it never excuses their abuse. The hate they send doesn't really affect me these days, which might be why they started to leave me alone more sdalkjs

[armenianwriterman]

So, this is it. The end of Rooster Teeth. The end of something I spent half of my life watching. I got into RT through randomly stumbling across Season 1 of Death Battle by chance and I never looked back. I spent more than half of my life watching their stuff, laughing along with their jokes, and being inspired by the people who made it. They were a source of joy in my life, especially in times when I really needed it. The talent and passion of those that worked there always shined through on everything they did. To those who worked there, I'm sorry it ended the way it did, and I wish them the best of luck as you go forwards. I'll always remember the heart and soul they put in, the engrossing stories they told, and hilarious insanity you really can't find anywhere else.

But, while there was a lot of good, there was also a lot of bad. The crunch, the toxic bro culture, the sexual predator that worked there for 12 years, it was a mess. It is horrible that any of this happened at all, and to those who were effected by it, I am so sorry you had to go through that. I felt terrible about being sad it closing for this reason, but after some reflection, I think what I'm really sad about is how much it meant to people. Me, the other fans, and all the employees, anyone who saw the goodbye stream could testify to that.

From that shared meaning spawned a community that I was a part of. One that unquestionably had a lot of problems as well, (I'm definitely not going to miss the anti-woke grifters when they inevitably move on to the next thing), but a community nonetheless. I don't really talk about my personal life on here much but, I'm not good with social interactions or maintaining relationships with people I don't see daily. I haven't ever really had a job before despite my attempts to get one, and well, given that I want to work in the TV/Film industry and the state that it's currently in...yeah. I sometimes feel like a failure, wonder why I should even bother trying.

But with RT, I had a community of people who were like me. People who I could nerd out with and not really worry about alienating. People I could laugh and cry with. I felt like I had a place here like I never really did elsewhere. One of my big regrets is that I never had the opportunity to go to a fan event and meet others in my community in person. But the good news is, despite the company closing, the community is still going to stick around for a long time. The fanmade archives are a thing, and many of the shows are either already going to continue, or in talks to continue.

Tonight, I decided to watch one final thing on their website and I chose Red vs Blue Season 13, partly because it's one of my favorite, if not the favorite, things this media company ever put out. But I also chose it because of the ending. Because even when things are bleak, even when the future is uncertain, there will always be hope that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, that your friends (and Rooster Teeth employees in this case) will all eventually be okay. In other words, because in the end, you just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch?

Being a fan wasn't always easy, but I look around at everyone talking about what Rooster Teeth and its community meant to them, and I know that is why we were here. And I'm glad I was here with all of you.

❤️🤍🖤💛, 🟨🟨🟨🟨⬛, 🔴🆚🔵

[spicybylerpolls]

I was there in the trenches of the sanitize byler phases of this tag. Literally a year ago the same discourse happened so the cycle repeats itself once a season. We just made it to kissing practice/makeout fics being acceptable when bylers were in-fighting about the morality of that. In every other fandom, there's an understanding that if you don't like keep scrolling. Don't engage, just block and find what you want to look at online without bothering others. But this overpolicing of how others run their blog is insane. The entitlement is rampant especially when the internet has always been the Wild Wild West aka never knowing what you'll stumble across so tread carefully and leave folks who aint send for you alone.

Not to mention that this misplaced outrage is over fictional characters when irl predators exist harming real people. If one consumes horror fic are they condoning murder? No, they're just a horror fan. So why is it not treated the same with erotica/smut fics. I have actual irls who are survivors of real predators who hate people misusing/overusing the predator terms over fictional characters on this site. They sometimes use fanfiction to process what happened to them as a kid/teen so their fic recs are pretty mature and dark due to the themes that help them feel seen/heard because it's easier to use fiction to understand their trauma at a safe distance than to talk to real people if they want to remain anonymous since that's very personal.

Are they freaks/weirdos/etc for wanting to read or engage in that stuff that harms literally no one? I promise real predators aren't on tumblr gushing about a fictional ship's sex lives. They're online somewhere trying to talk to actual kids who are unmonitored on the internet which a majority of adults know how to navigate better and have more access to since the internet was born in 1996.

To conclude, fight for irl survivors and prevent irl predatory behavior over fictional byler who would be in their mid50s by now. Also, newsflash, teens have sex, straight or gay, especially in the midwest when in a small ass town, especially the bigoted ones like Hawkins.

So sorry your blog is getting talked about when you gave a disclaimer, block button is free, and you let people know what tags to block as well. You're being nice cuz you didn't have to do all that, but you did, but nothing is ever gonna be good enough for byler tag. They must hate Young Royals with all the gay teen sex over there lol

All great points! And thank you for the support. And you're right. Antis must really not know what to do with Young Royals lol. The fact that some Bylers have been cancelled from writing makeout fics that are too steamy is still baffling to me.

[evaluation-time]

Please consider reading and liking this post before following!! You don’t have to but please consider it!! (It will give me peace of mind)

Just as a warning to anybody who stumbles across this blog I am VERY VERY KIN WITH IRIS and as a result, there will be things posted about Wishfulshipping on here!! Because that's what matches my memories!!

In my canon, I think I was somewhere around 14 and Cilan was around 15. But that's my canon! I've seen a lot of debate go around regarding Iris's actual canon age and I'm pretty sure there's not an actual canonical one! I know there's definitely not one for Cilan (believe me, I am the world's biggest Cilan lover, I would've found it by now and mentioned it thirty times in my fanfics)

Update 11/16/24: Neither Iris or Cilan have canon ages

But regardless!! If that makes you uncomfortable, please feel free to block me!!! If I’m scrolling through the Wishfulshipping tag and I see you’re uncomfortable with the ship, I will probably block you ;~; I’m sorry! If you’re not actually bothered by my blog though you can ask someone to have me unblock you or message me on an alt! (I won’t be mad or irritated, I super promise!)

Cilan is the BIGGEST comfort character to me and I love him very much, so seeing hate about Wishfulshipping sort of makes me sad. So if you hate Wishfulshipping, maybe also don't follow? Or maybe just keep an open mind? Or heck, if you do hate it and post about, you could tag it with anti-wishfulshipping? Or "Ko don't look"?

I'll go blacklist those two tags after posting this. I’m willing to work with you if you’re willing to work with me!! In return, all my posts with Wishfulshipping will be tagged!! And if I forget, let me know! c:

ANYWAY as long as we're clear on that, we're all good!!! Thank you!!!

Maybe give this post a like to let me know you read the disclaimer ^^;

I love you!!! Have a good day!!!

[therobotmonster]

So I tried out Fallout: Frost

And I got to level 70.

I finally quit because the game was taking a literal hour to load save files. Fallout 4 takes forever to load saves anyhow, but you can get around it with the quick save/quick load, and it isn't nearly as bad, but some combination of my graphics card, Frost and Mod Organizer 2 (which is very clunky compared to Vortex) made it just drag.

I don't have a lot of screencaps, so forgive their random nature.

The game is punishing, and that's part of the point. Early in there's some excitement about how hard the survival mechanics are, but the mod philosophy is solid anti-fun, and after awhile, that just grows old.

Set six years after the war, the game jettisons as much of the wilder stuff as it can manage. Super Mutants and wilder mutated monsters aren't lore-friendly at that stage, so its mostly animals, people, and ghouls, who are constantly bolstered by the radioactive air and thus follow zombie-headshot rules.

Where the anti-fun aspect falls into place is the mod is obsessed with keeping you from getting any of the coolest gear because "it has to be there" for the main game story, despite it being super easy to do stuff that would throw the main game off kilter.

So most major locations are blocked off internally.

I see it for things like the power armor suit near Sanctuary, which is frozen solid in a clever solution to the problem, but I can't dig into ArcJet to get the Rock-It launcher? Seriously?

It gets extra obnoxious with the Nuka-World section, because huge chunks are blocked off, and both exclusive power armors are non-available. The entire marketplace in Nuka-Town is gone, just inoperable doors.

And the mod relies far too much on journal entries to tell what story it is. The journal entries come in basically two flavors: 1) tales of sorrow and death that are so common that you quickly get bored of them and 2) ramblings by now mad cultists, of which there are many. The main barrier to forward advancement is familiar places being blocked off with locked doors, the keys of which are at random locations you just have to stumble across.

You can't just go to Parsons' Asylum and find a way in. No, none of the many Maldenman guards outside have the key to the door. Nor is it at the end of the Malden subway line where I stomped the mutant thing they worshiped into the ground. It's apparently at the end of the "military storyline", a thing that (to be fair) I did not bother with because dealing with the conversational options with the few NPCs who will talk is a confounding mess of non-sequitor responses, because half the characters use randomly clipped together dialog from the main game and none of it is translated well.

It's not without its charms. For the first forty levels or so you're likely to enjoy it if you're really into hardcore survival experiences, and while most of the coolest gear was rendered nonexistent, a few things, like the syringer, were majorly improved. The boat fast-travel mechanic was neat but crafting fuel was stupidly inefficient.

I strongly recommend new players get the syringer-centered perk that replaced VANS the moment you can. Syringes are the only ammo with no weight, and for most of the game you'll want to keep a pack of venom and bleed-out syringes. One shot from either will take down a human or smaller sized living enemy (ghouls included) and the venom syringes are guaranteed kills on Deathclaws and Bears if you can keep out of reach long enough for them to succumb.

Don't really have much else to say. Just a little ramble.

[reflections-in-a-critical-eye]

(sent through here in case you don’t answer notes. replies? idk, i’m new to tumblr. feel free to disregard if you do reply to those.)

Are you willing to engage in a convo/elaborate on disliking Taehyung? I can see that you already have somewhere, but I’m new here so I can’t find that. All that I have gleaned is that his actions have bothered you somehow? To be honest, I would like to critique one of your posts by saying that I think you saying “I don’t have the energy for him, I’m trying to be nice” is, like, harmful? Rude? Maybe a bit weird? Yes, I am Taehyung-biased, but I would still be saying this if you said that to Jimin or Minho or, idk, Harry Styles. I just think it’s an unnecessarily mean and even threatening thing to say to someone without being a bit more upfront about your reasoning. I think it would be helpful to link those old posts you made, though I get that that’s not possible for every ask. Anyway, I guess I’ve become the Taehyung-likers in your inbox (or whatever this thing is called) that you don’t have energy for lol, but I genuinely would like to know your reasoning. Thanks for all the other posts, too, your queer Bangtan analyses are very cool and awesome.

Hey @raspberrytaegi

I saw you sent this same message in the comments. I decided to answer here because it's easier to write. This was during my break, so now I finally decided to actually answer your questions.

In a way, I understand where you're coming from, specifically because it appears that you only recently opened up your blog and you somehow stumbled on to mine and you happened to see me dismissing something that was Tae-related. Now, there was a context to that. Some of it is obvious from my blog, other stuff was more personal in a way. This is not me justifying myself because as you will see in what I will explain down the line, I don't think it's necessary for me to do so.

Me saying I don't have the energy for him was right before I went on a break and put the blog on hold. My initial plan was to wait until right before Christmas, but I just had had enough of anything BTS and the 90 percent of asks that were piling up in my inbox. If I came across as rude in that ask, I was just the same in the other ones I responded during those days because I simply didn't have the patience anymore for nonsense. So, there was that.

For anyone who has been following me for a while, they sort of know what my stance is in regards to Tae and I've never been shy about it. I can't link all my posts about him because it would take too much work and time that I do not have. I also wish my tagging system would be more consistent, but if you are interested, you can check the "tae", "taehyung" "V" tags on my blog and you could probably find some more. And what you will find is that indeed, I'm not a fan of him. But I also don't subscribe to this idiotic mentality of what this fandom would call anti, hater or whatever else label is out there. Which means, I don't have a hate boner for him. I may be biased and that influences the way I perceive him, but I'm also not going to drag him for the sake of it. I had anons saying his friendship with the Wooga squad is fake and just for the show they made which was something that I did not agree. I sort of live posted during the Grammy awards last year and 80 percent of my posts was me enjoying Tae doing his thing. His first trip to Paris was on my radar as well and in a good way. I also talked about the "dating scandal" back in September and how the fans are being shitty towards the entire thing (in way more words anyway. If that is of interest to you, I tagged it under the ship name).

At the same time, I'm not a fan of his behavior. I think he can be shady some times and this is something that would get me stoned on twitter. He can come across as rude and spoiled and that's something that personally doesn't work for me. I also don't expect everyone to agree. Some things that I don't like might be the same reason why others are his fans. They like how Tae is more serious and quiet, I see it as unwilligness to be professional (in some group video messages and even Run BTS episodes. Everyone can have a difficult day and not be in the mood at all, but it's a job where they play games. That's it. And it's not a one time occurence. If it was that case, I probably wouldn't have noticed).

I don't understand his tendency to lie. Especially when there's intention (or it comes across as that). This is a behavior that is seen by his fans as Tae just being himself, he's cool like that. Fine. But not to me. He posts a fake tattoo just because, he says he's having a collab for a Christmas song but that didn't happen and it came out of the blue, and so on.

I don't hate the guy, I just don't vibe with him at all and he's the type of person that I can't be a fan of. That's it. It's not a crime. And I'm also not going to judge you for coming to my inbox and wanting to understand why I think that way because you're Tae biased. I get it. I also don't get some of the opinions written about Jimin and Jungkook so I understand your position.

I also don't mind the passive agressiveness in your ask about me not having the energy for a Tae-biased fan. I "judge" my anons mostly on how they choose to express themselves and the willingness to understand different point of views, not based on who they stan. If someone is at least mostly reasonable (which you were), we can have a conversation.

Lastly, I saw that you liked some of my other posts, thank you! Seeing that you didn't immediately sent me a hate post and being able to see beyond an dismissive answer to an ask I answered played a big part in me being open now in having this conversation.

[samwise9]

Hi, this is probably a very late response, not much of a question. I have stumbled upon your account and read through the whole "drifting away from Lucemond pairing" thing.

That's honestly very relatable. I used to like them a lot at the beginning, read through almost every fanfic, even yours too (they are great & you are one of the greatest Lucemond fanfic writers out there).

Honestly, it's kinda difficult for me to find out why it has become so hard to like the pairing (at least for me) because in the beginning, it was just so great, y'know, like magic. The Golden Era is probably in the beginning.

But you formulated so well, especially about the fandom discourse thing. I started falling off around the time one of the Lucemond fanfic I followed ended.

Afterwards, it's just constantly trying to catch up then failing. The last straw is probably when the discourse/drama about bottom/feminine/omega Luke being anti-tr4ns (which I don't get), and people start being a puritan about their preferred Lucemond Dynamics (top/bottom thing). It's all so silly, like they are the same ship with only slightly different dynamics, why bother hating on other people who doesn't have the same preference as theirs when they can just not interact.

The oversaturation & internal shipwars become tiring real fast. Even if a lot of content is supposed to be a good thing, for some reason it becomes one of the factors.

One of the silliest things I have ever come across on reading fic under that ship tag is when upon reading a supposedly "good fic" (that one of the readers start cross promoting it under other people's fic), the author opens the story by going on a rant how they don't like ABO, while writing & integrating ABO into their fic & making it a central theme. The author also calls ABO trope problematic (why do they even write a fanfic about it when they don't like the trope and call it "gross" then?)

When some people call the author out on it, they just go on this long paragraphic arguments in the comment section. It ends up being entertaining, but somehow tiring, too. I end up clicking out after reading the war in the comments.

You probably have read it. It's popular despite the author starting their fic with that hate note to the ABO trope.

Anyway, I just want to say I fully agree with you that some people are so toxic that their discourse ended up making others uncomfortable despite it being such a good pairing. Thank you for clearing it up. Now, I have a guess why I ended up falling off the pairing.

Also, I want to ask, do you think content oversaturation contributes to people leaving a ship ? Because I am on the fence about this too, on one side, contents keep a fandom alive, but on the other, it makes me dislike a ship despite liking it beforehand (could be because of other reasons, I just haven't discover it I guess).

I want to ask you a lot more, your opinions are really interesting. Thank you for engaging in QnA (ignore those people who are just trying to argue with you by submitting anon, I read them, and they come across as somewhat trying to rile you up).

It's fine if you don't answer this, I just want to send it because I do like going through your account, reading your responses, and see the discussion why & how you don't follow this certain pairing anymore (it is rarely discussed, so discovering your answers are interesting).

Sorry if some terms are unfamiliar/hard to understand, English isn't my first language.

God i am so sorry for how long it has taken me to get to your ask. No excuse, I have just been exceptionally lazy over the past few months and I cannot promise that this won't happen again however I am trying to avoid doing my real life job so here I am. Also your English is perfect so dont worry. It is better than mine and it is my first language 👍. I have a feeling that for as long as your ask was, my answer will be equally as long.

I am with you re. the internal ship wars. Let people read what they want to read and write what they want to write and it's all golden. I cannot stand people who try to dictate and police what others do be it in fan art, in a fic or, on a few memorable occasions, what people post on the Lucemond tumblr hash-tag.

Ahh yeah I do vaguely remember coming across an abo fic where the author was open on how they thought the trope was problematic which I found quite funny but it is a trope that is extremely popular in the fandom and, at the time, I thought that it wasn't that surprising that authors who haven't previously written the trope would expand into it, especially when hits/kudos began to dwindle across the whole fandom. However I mind reading an ask answer on here ages ago about how popular abo is in Lucemond and a really good point made was that abo is just a really good way of removing obstacles you have plot wise when you have a same sex ship, especially in a universe such as HoTD and GoT where canon is so detailed and lore heavy. That may be why writers who don't agree with the underlying tropes still utilise abo as it means you are not having to spend chapter or chaper trying to untangle a way to make the story work in a canon setting.  I do think there is a way to do abo without the problematic aspect some people have with it but I suppose its all down to how much of the trope you take issue with. It's something I have done in the past (both use it as a easy plot device and remove the aspects of the trope that I dont particularly jive with as a reader) and will probably do more of going forward.

In terms of oversaturation and people leaving the ship I dont think it was/is an issue with Lucemond as such. I just think Lucemond was always a ship which, with the benefit of hindsight, was destined for a relatively short shelf-life just by its very nature - at the end of the day the ship involves one person who is canonically dead in a show that is only on its first season with some very popular characters who are either still to make their debut or ones who will take more of a center stage in the following seasons. From being in a number of fandoms the truly popular ships which are able to continue to retain the levels of fan interaction that they had at the beginning were able to do so because the two characters in a ship continously interacted in a show/film (even if it is only a few scenes every now and then) which galvanised shippers to create more content. Lucemond simply doesn't have that as one character is dragon food. The discourse, IMO, just hastened the rate in which people left.

I think the downside to how quickly the ship exploded did contribute to is making people stuck in their ways somewhat. People have their preferences on what they want Aemond and Luke to act like and who they are and it makes it difficult for creators who want to go out of the box to get a foothold - the result of that is that they just go to different fandoms where they don't get shit for having one character bottom and the other topping or get thousands of notifications because yet another argument has broken out in a comments section but things will likely pick up once the new season hits.

[unbakehisbeans]

Omg I'm browsing YouTube looking for drama and I found a lady whose entire bag apparently is basically just shitting on and "debunking" fat activism. And it's so strange because she seems to be pretty in favor of other social justice causes, and she herself used to be fat (prime example of the sort of former fat person Aubrey Gordon talks about). And the way she talks about fat activism just entirely ignores the spirit of the arguments she's "debunking," but she's relatively sensitive and acknowledges fatphobia in health care and the structural barriers fat people and/or disabled people face (inaccessible transportation, sidewalks, turnstiles, seating, etc.). So, the entirety of her "debunking" and all of her counterpoints are basically that being fat and experiencing fatphobia "isn't the same" as being marginalized and oppressed in other ways.

And like, yeah, I too have stumbled across fat activism on TikTok that I disagree with or that is peddling misinformation, I've seen white fat people on TikTok perhaps overidentifying their own struggles with that of black people. I also don't like the way the TikTok sjw crowd so often gesture vaguely to "fat black and indigenous disabled trans women" who started whichever movement they're talking about without ever referencing any specific fat black and indigenous disabled trans women activists associated with that movement???

So, sure, I guess I could see what she's saying and kinda let it go EXCEPT THAT SHE HAS DEDICATED HER ENTIRE YOUTUBE CHANNEL TO THIS!!! And literally all of it is her showing an annoying fat person's TikTok video and then giving her commentary on that TikTok video, and her commentary is roughly the same every time. She says "fat people are treated unfairly in society" but she thinks that fat people aren't and haven't been subjected to eugenics and she continually points out that there isn't a push for anti-fat legislation the same way that there's a push for anti-trans legislation, and somehow it's wrong and oppressive for spaces to be inaccessible to disabled people but if the same space is inaccessible in the same way for a fat person then that's somehow totally different and not oppression...

It's just such bizarro logic and I genuinely cannot fathom why she's so invested in it. Like, I've never been fat and have never experienced the ways in which the world is inaccessible to fat people for myself--this lady has been fat and has experienced the ways in which the world is cruel and inaccessible to fat people, she talks about it!--but I have never been okay with how flippant and cruel people are about, like, fat people on airplanes, right? Like, this is something I remember feeling very ashamed about even as a child that people would joke about and shame fat people for needing a seat belt extender or having to take two seats or just not fitting comfortably in the seat that they have. And I remember this bothering me because, like firstly it's so unfair and so humiliating--like, even if you're a fatphobe who is of the mind that people should just lose weight to be more convenient on airplanes, the fat person is already on the plane, they can't just drop 50 pounds as they walk up to the gate and they can't just hold off on flying for work or to see their grandma or whatever until they're skinny enough to be convenient??--and then also it's just so mean spirited and humiliating, like I imagine it's already uncomfortable and embarrassing enough to have to squeeze yourself into a seat that doesn't fit you or to have to ask for a seat belt extender while you're painfully aware that somebody on the plane is sneering at you or getting annoyed that you're there. And then also, even as a kid I remember being confused because a lot of people (I think it may even be half or more in the US) are fat, so why wouldn't you design seats and seat belts to accommodate this huge swath of the population???

I'm getting heated about this, sorry, but jesus!!!! It's so fucking weird! Like, I'm just puzzled by how she can be so sensitive to the experiences of disabled people and also talk about her own experiences of fatphobia and acknowledge that BMI is a bad metric and that there's fatphobia in medicine and all this stuff and then still waste so much time, dedicate her entire public platform shitting on fat activism and fat positivity TikTok users!!!!

[miriaflowers]

I'm really good at idolizing strangers. there's this girl, J, we met at the top of a mountain in Seoul. pretty great origin story, right? (how could I not fantasize about telling people that we serendipitously met on a mountain peak in a foreign country? moments like that feel like the universe pushing two people together that were meant to be) she's super cute, easy to talk to, and understands all the intricacies of being a human in this society who doesn't fit in. on a baseline level I feel like we have all the same values and our energy levels match quite nicely as we're both introverts but enjoy the company of the right people. and she happens to have an accent that reminds me of a dear friend of mine, whom I also was enamored with. I absolutely adore her.

I don't really know her, but after years of experience and wasted time with the wrong people I have a pretty good sense of who I'm looking for these days. and she definitely fits the mold. it's hard for me to shake because I rarely stumble upon people that intrigue me the way she does. maybe I'm shallow and weak and fall for any pretty blonde girl with an accent. maybe she's who I've been searching for all this time. the truth obviously lives somewhere in-between those two modalities but regardless she's made an impression on me.

she's currently spending a year living in Korea, how awesome is that? the draw for me to live overseas has never been stronger. I feel so much more connected to myself and others out there, even if I don't speak the language. the lifestyle out in Asia, at least Japan and Korea, suits me well. getting to walk around everywhere, gamer and anime culture, cheap food and the safety of a civilized society. other than the national parks the only thing my country does well are music festivals. one begins to understand why that is when you travel and see how life is in other places. our festivals have to be great (and honestly it's only down to a few these days) because we all need an escape of that magnitude living where we do. crime, corruption, capitalism, helplessness in a cold and distant society. nobody trusts anybody else. everybody seems like they're one minor inconvenience from being completely unhinged. and even with all the warning signs in the world, preventable tragedies occur because our terrible police force can't be bothered to do any good in this world (in particular thinking of the Maine shootings at this time). we're too busy fighting over whether being anti Israel and anti Zionist means being an antisemite (spoiler, it doesn't). genocide is happening in front of our eyes but our political interests are more important than that apparently.

anyways

I don't know how to break myself free of the spells I fall under with these remarkable people when all I am to them is an insignificant memory. I see people so clearly and fall in love with them so easily. at least that's what I tell myself. it's entirely possible that I'm fabricating everything I think I know about them because I'm so used to fantasizing. I don't know, though. I'm not usually wrong about people.

what's the point though if she's across the world and I'm stuck in my misery here? I need to get myself together. I need to create a life worth living. I need to have the freedom of being like "damn, I kinda like you, can I stay a little while longer to get to know you better?". and not be bothered by such trivial things such as money and a job. which, I know, is a bit of a catch 22 as what I'll need is money and typically that comes from a job. ridiculous system if I do say so myself.

I'm sure there are people here who will excite me in similar ways that J does. I just don't know how to connect with them. I also don't want her to be just another blip on the timeline of what ifs. I've learned that when you encounter those people that you can't help but want to be in their light, you try and hold on to them as best you can. those people don't come around often, at least not for me.

is it love or just BPD?

[agentofagony]

I NEVER see the Loki antis in the Young Avengers fandom notice that Loki did not intend to actively put Billy in danger? Obviously it was still shitty but the plan was 'make him choose between dying/leaving Teddy and giving me his powers temporarily' with the assumption that Billy was in a good place. Billy was suicidal, and as soon as Loki realizes this, they intervene and they feel awful since they can empathize. They change gears accordingly. That's the whole storyline: nothing goes how Loki calculated it would play out. It does not excuse their actions. Loki DID genuinely care about Billy though and they think of the team as their friends. Billy himself even acknowledged this and tells Loki he still cares about them, BUT that forgiveness isn't solely Billy's to give. Kind of love how well he clearly knows Loki lmao

Anon Idk why what are you talking about in the first half. Are you saying I'm an anti Loki? Because if you are then you're in for a ride bub I love him.

I'm not sure if I have adhd yet or not because therapy is hard to get around here but what I know is that I have a hyperfixtion on Loki to the point that the only other marvel characters I care about other than him are either has the same problems as Loki, and or I want him to interact with them(Doyle,clea, brucebanner, deadpool, ironlad/kang) ,or they're related to Loki(the young avengers, amora, thor), Or has a beef with Loki (doctor strange and bats duh), or Loki interacted with them once(wolverine, Spiderman, kamala)

But if you're saying you never seen an anti Loki's in the young avengers Fandom then guess again. I literally saw someone saying "fuck Loki, Angela should've been on the young avengers team instead " on Twitter which is hilarious because like Angela is very old, and the rinecruited/current Loki is considered/supposed to be a young adult . And another one reqouted with a gif of a women getting hit by a train with the caption" another young avengers story about Loki"(all thought they might meant they will get hit with emotions Idk)

I unknowingly rebloged a post from an anti Loki part of the young avengers talking about how Loki told Billy to kill himself(which after checking again because my memory is bad turned out to has never happened) in fact Loki stopped him from offing himself the two times he tried it. He even confessed his plan just to stop Billy from trying to kill himself.

I'm not sure when did I say Loki didn't care about Billy? Or the young avengers?? (sorry if I actually did at some point because again garage memory)

what I remember I did say "I don't understand why they care about Loki" because seriously even if he didn't intend to get to him attampt self deletion. He still made them suffer even if he didn't intend to.

In fact I believe the young avengers are the first actual friends Loki ever had beside Thor (yes kid Loki had Leah but we're talking about young Loki who happens to have old Loki's memories ).friends he actually felt welcomed with, related to, had fun with. We know for a fact Loki never had friends through out his childhood.

I'm not sure what part made you think I'm an anti Loki. Unless you stumbled across one of the posts and reblogs I expressed fear of the young avengers reunion story. Because if you actually bothered to look at my page and scrool through it even for a second JUST A SECOND you would've known :/

I'm scared from the young avengers reunion story not because I hate Loki but because what ever is gonna happen inside the story could be Loki's doing in a way because he's fucking Loki. You know shit is about to get fucked up when ever he's around because that's just what happens.

How many times did we have Loki messing shit up without intending to? It's like literally his thing.he mess things up and everyone get mad at him.

And different writers means different looks on how Loki should be. Alyssa wong have never wrote a story with Loki beyond Iligator Loki so it's understandable for me to feel scared from her story.

She would also be writing Loki iron fist #5 too and it looks like Loki is going to be one of the villians which is making me even more nervous.

Hopefully I would be wrong and Alyssa wong would actually not write Loki as the villian . But we have to wait and see. It seems like she might be the next writer after Jason Aaron to add Loki into every story she writes based on the fact, that's he has been added to two stories she's writing for.

[theprodigypenguin]

Hey! I have a question, why do you hate Victorie? Did she do something in Cannon Oris just Preferences? I don't know anything about her.

A fair question, and let me first start off by saying if people who follow me like Victoire then I respect that, and I respect you. You have every right to love this character, just as I have every right to dislike her. A second note, I want it to be clear that I do NOT dislike her because of Jeddy. It has nothing to do with “teddy belongs with james so victoire is horrible” it’s not that.

When I first read book 7 and read that Teddy and Victoire were kissing I was in LOVE! I shipped them from day one and I shipped them until I rejoined the fandom after reading The Cursed Child. I multishipped tedoire and jeddy because I thought Teddy deserved all the love he could get.

When I wrote Thicker Than Water I added mention of tedoire. There was nothing detailed, they basically just talked to each other once, but I tagged it teddy/vic because that’s what I’m supposed to do. Fast forward a bit I’m getting more into jeddy, really enjoying myself, and I’m looking through a bunch of blogs for jeddy content.

One blog I came across, omitted for privacy reasons and because I don’t want to start drama, I found an anon asking them about my fic. Keep in mind I have no idea who the anon was and I had no idea who the blogger was because I had NEVER come across them before. I was just dumb and shiny and new to fandom, and at that point I was very sensitive to criticism, especially from people who had never bothered to read my work before.

The anon asked this blogger if they’d read my fic Thicker Than Water and the blogger said no and they weren’t going to because it was tagged tedoire. Now, I don’t care if someone DOESN’T read my work. But don’t say it out loud. If someone sends you a fic recc, don’t say “Oh I’m not going to read that” because the author could accidentally stumble across your blog, find that ask, and fucking shatter.

It doesn’t matter if you didn’t mean to offend the author, writers by nature are sensitive little fucks, and it takes a lot of heart break and trauma to harden us up enough that we’re not effected anymore.

This incident is actually why I’m so insistent about people feeling comfortable and safe on my blog. No matter what people ship or don’t ship, I want them to feel safe on my blog, and I want to strive to be kind and polite no matter how difficult it is, because I don’t want to accidentally post something that hurts people unintentionally. Cuz I know how it feels to look through a blog I’ve NEVER seen before and see them trashing my work WITHOUT EVER READING IT.

I don’t want to hurt anyone like that, so I try hard not to.

That’s why I hate Victoire, because in the past me liking her ended with some jerk making me feel like crap, and it’s a lot easier to hate her because it feels less painful. Basically I hate her because I was traumatized into it by some dick who didn’t think their words would have any impact.

That being said, again, if you like her, please don’t let me stop you. You deserve to like Victoire, to adore her to the ends of the earth. I’ll tag all my mean Victoire posts with “anti vic” “anti victoire” and “vic weasel” that way no one needs to see the rude posts. The last thing I want to do is upset someone.

[evilelitest2]

why does the south still cling to images/memories of the confederacy but you don't see northerners doing the same thing with the union. is it because they lost or?

Oh this is a complicated one, oh boy history of the civil war.  For the record, my Dads family fought for the Union, and my Mom’s family fought for the confederacy.  Also just in case anybody stumbles across this ,the Civil War was about Slavery not states rights, and it was a good thing that the North won.  Ok good 

Ok so one of sad facts of the American civil war is that many white northerners were just as racist and supporters of White Supremacy as the South, they just also opposed slavery.  Many people who thought slavery was wrong also believed that white people were superior and God favored the white race.  Also an equal amount of white northerners, while not personally ok with slavery, basically thought it wasn’t an issue worth opposing.  The Northern Democratic Party ran on this platform in the 1862 mid term elections and the 1860 presidential elections.  In fact for the first 2 years of the Civil War, many Northern Whites were pretty lukewarm on Emancipation because they feared it would lead to a general race war and an upsetting of the “natural order between the races”.  Northern whites largely got on the side of Emancipation and movement towards progressive views of race not so much out of their minds being changed on the matter, but more by the feeling that it would piss off the south.  In what is actually quite typical for most human progress, it was motivated less out of altruism and belief in universal humanity, but more because they hated somebody else so much they were willing to be a decent person just to hurt them.  So some of the most important amendments in the US constitution (13th, 14th, and 15th) were pushed by many Northern whites who mostly wanted to make the South upset.  So once the war was over and the White Southerner came back into the United States, you suddenly had a white population of the US who agreed on racial inequality, but differed on the exact form it would take.  And Frankly, the north just wasn’t that invested in defending African Americans, as we see from their abandonment of Reconstruction.

  The South meanwhile basically obsessively worked to repaint The Civil War as a romantic story of lost glory, of themselves as an oppressed people, and that of the pain they suffered being unjust.  Since they lost, they put a ton of energy into this narrative.  Meanwhile the North...didn’t really care.  Like the thing the north wanted, the Unity of the United States, had been achieved and they didn’t like black people anyways.  After the war there was this big “Reconciliation” movement that sprung up, really getting going with the 10th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg, where the narrative was all about “let the past be the past and come together in common cause”....for the white people of course.  

The Northern side of this arrangement seems to have been “Don’t attack Lincoln himself”.  If you watch Birth of a Nation, along with its horrific racism, its actual message is one of reconciliation, it doesn’t attack Lincoln personally and show his assassination as a mistake, and even vaguely argues against slavery, though from the perspective of “it was wrong cause it caused white people to fight each other”.  

There was also an economic side to this once films came out.  Hollywood producers understood that northern would be willing to watch a pro confederate film, but the South wouldn’t ever watch an anti Confederate film.  So you get stuff like “The outlaw Josey Wales” other Lost Cause propaganda.  

In short...the South bothered to show up to make an argument about the Civil War, while the North mostly didn’t care beyond protecting Lincoln’s legacy, so for about 90 years you have an entirely pro Southern dominated reading of the American Civil War, which only really started to be reversed in the 70s.  

Btw, sorry for not answering this question earlier, its actually very complicated so I had to think about it 

[antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx]

Sorry to bother you all of the sudden, I've just stumbled across the antis situation, and frankly, I'm confused. Might I ask what the situation with antis (I don't know what they are) and deku-for-discourse is all about? A person I followed was upset about this person, and I saw the post about you talking about them, so I thought I should ask you what this is all about, ya know? This is a lot, I'm sorry. Thank you!

Not a bother! This may get a little long-winded, and I’m going to try to not be obviously horrifically biased, despite my username. I don’t know the specific post in question thanks to my awful memory, but I can explain antis in general.

Essentially, an anti is a person who believes the effect fictional content has on reality is great enough that a content creator should not create depictions of morally reprehensible acts, such as rape, abuse, pedophilia, incest, racism, etc. Or, at the very least, not create works with an unreliable narrator where the acts are painted in a neutral or positive light. That’s not a position I agree with for a multitude of reasons, including my background in psychology, use of fiction about dark topics to cope with my own abuse, and deep belief that censorship is an incredibly dangerous route to follow, but it’s one I wouldn’t feel compelled to make a blog about if that’s where the problems started and ended. However, antis have left behind a long wake of abuse, physical assault, and threats on peoples lives in their quest to eliminate all dark content. Instead of discussing the implications behind a work or critiquing what societal problems it reflects level-headedly, common tactics towards both creators and fans of their content include death and rape threats, targeted harassment, pictures of gore, unfounded claims about psychology and the effects of abuse and how to recover from it, ableism against those with intrusive thoughts, shaming, doxxing, gaslighting, accusations of being a rapist/pedophile/abuser/bad person, attempts to ruin the life of the fan (whether that be calling their work or family and falsely accusing them of engaging in criminal behaviour or something otherwise), and on occasion actual physical assault (someone was hit in the face at a con once). The end result is a culture of normalised shame and abuse that I think is disgusting on every possible level, and that’s why I run this blog. Plus a few other discourse topics that are usually brought up in tandem.

[allthefreakingtime]

A concept: since the lie had to be told, he added another, easily disprovable lie in order to reassure us. Antis don't care, they don't remember the facts and they just feel great because they were right all along. But we, who actually check the facts see that this was fabricated and find it insulting at worst but won't come out of it thinking we were wrong

Do you mean the Eleanor being there thing?

IDK. Louis had to lie. And he’s a good liar. He gets away with a lot because he presents himself as the straight forward lad who wears his heart on his sleeve. So when he lies, people are less likely to believe he’s lying. Because he presents himself as SO honest. The Northerner working class lad who doesn’t see himself as famous and has opinions very similar to any 27 year old in York who never really left England. He’s the boy next door, if the boy next door was from Donny. However, Louis lies ALL the time. They all do, it’s self preservation. 

They are trained with PR for interviews like these where they have previously discussed how they will answer questions and how they have to keep their cool and never show that they are bothered or unnerved by any jab Dan might try. That’s the game. 

That answer about Harry had been rehearsed. Same about Eleanor. Wherever Louis stumbles more, that’s where he’s trying to be more careful with his words because it’s where he knows it matters more to get the words right. That’s where he’ll be quoted by the fans and other press.

Some of the 1D boys are better liars than others. It’s always been my opinion that Louis and Liam are the better liars in the band. Harry and Niall use avoidance more, instead of straight up lying, probably because they’re not as good at it - but they still lie whenever they need to. 

But as anyone who is a good liar knows, you can get carried away. Especially when you’re nervous about what you’re saying or you know your argument is thin. So you give additional details to drive your point across and try to be convincing. That’s what the part about Eleanor seeing his mother sounds like. 

There even may be some truth to it. Eleanor knew Jay and she could have visited her in the hospital  - that’s not something I put aside. However, in real life, it wouldn’t have been a special moment they shared. 

But it sounds like Louis used that detail to try to be convincing in the lie and kind of went too far and didn’t realize that in the timelines, he was still with Danielle so what he is saying is weird. 

[radiantroach]

I don't know if this belongs here, but a few months ago I stumbled across something that sheds some interesting light on the "story doesn't need conflict" crowd.

Someone wrote a list of "writing advice". Now, it should have been labeled something like "Tropes and Plotlines I Personally Dislike" however OP labeled it something long the lines of "Top 10 Writing Mistakes You Should Never Do"

Multiple times during this list OP made a lot of comments about their dislike of conflict of all sorts, but one entery left me stunned.

One of the enteries was "Stories About Abusive Relationships" OP went on reciting the standard "Abuse is bad and if you read/write about Abuse then you're bad too" that is heard a lot from from people like this

But then OP built on that argument. They went on to say something along the lines of "if you're writing about an abusive relationship, then one of your main characters is getting intimate with an abusive person. They are clearly mentally unwell and got themselves this. Who would want to read about someone like that? Who would want to root for someone like that?"

It's been months now and I'm still not over this.

I feel like this reveals something damming about the anti-conflict crowd. I've gone from simply rolling my eyes at these people, and am now legitimately concerned about them.

This person's argument goes beyond a simple "I don't like things that make me feel bad feelings." And slides effortlessly into "I can't be bothered to sympathize with a fictional person going through something difficult. Because I would never put myself in a position where Im asked to sympathize with a real person in a similar situation"

For them-- or at least this OP-- the bad feeling isn't just the fear or anxiety that a character feels when presented with conflict. It's sympathy. Sympathy is the feeling they don't want to feel.

im about to maul someone.

[whenallisquiet]

From a crisis statistician in my London Business School WhatsApp:

Christoforos Anagnostopoulos, Lecturer at Imperial College

The next two months will be critical. We will remember them for the rest of our lives. I would like to offer a few pieces of information, under the burden of my professional capacity as a statistician who is working in crisis modelling and simulation, and the additional burden of the dearth of data that we have for this new virus.

Our best current estimate of the mortality rate of Covid-19 is around 1%, with a range of 0.5%-2% (source in the first comment). This differs from the so-called snapshot CFR which is obtained by dividing the number of deaths by the number of confirmed cases, and which varies in the range of 2%-5% or more per region. The snapshot CFR is factually accurate, but not very predictive, so let's run with 1% as a median expectation. This is still at least 20 times worse than the flu. The belief that "the flu kills more people every year" will soon be proven wrong. The related belief that "maybe most of us have caught it already and didn't realise" is also unlikely to be proven right: the virus is indeed mild in about 80% of cases, but, conservatively, for every 95 mild cases, at least 5 additional severe cases would have been admitted to hospital, and hence tested, and hence become known. Although we are extremely uncertain about the absolute number of mild cases, we have good evidence that the majority of the population has not yet fallen ill, and, as a result, the worse is yet to come. The virus is probably twice more contagious than the flu, and almost certainly contagious before symptoms appear.

So the facts, such as they are, indicate that COVID-19 is worse than the flu, more contagious than the flu, and already widespread, but nowhere near widespread enough that we have seen the worse of it. The situation in Europe (and elsewhere) is about to get worse, much worse, and fast. The only thing we can control is how fast. This is why, I reiterate, the next two months are critical. We are still within the window of opportunity of slowing the virus down - we can no longer stop it, but we can slow it down. A lot. This is known as the "flattening of the curve": the effort to delay the peak of the outbreak, and reduce its height by spreading it over a longer period of time, so that the number of critically ill patients remain within the capacity of the national health system. The only lever we can pull right now to achieve this is behavioural change: better hygiene, and social distancing, which I elaborate upon below. Before I do, let me drive home why this is worth doing, as it is common to argue "why bother? Why sustain the economic cost? Since we're all going to get this anyway and the majority of cases are mild?".

Here is why. According to a recent count, we have about 5K ICU beds in the UK. For every death it is sensible to expect about 3 to 5 critically ill patients that require an ICU bed for about 4 weeks. Let's go with the lower bound of 3. If the case fatality ratio is correct at about 1%, and if 10% of the population gets this virus within the same 4-week period, we will require 180K ICU beds. We have 5K. That's more than 30 times higher than the available capacity. If critically ill patients have to stay at home, without mechanical ventilation, they will succumb to the disease at greater numbers. The mortality will increase. The contagiousness will increase as loved ones will have to try and take care of critically ill patients at home. The social trauma will increase as patients die in their homes.

It is hence clear that delaying this virus is now a public service. And delaying this virus is hard, but simple: try your best not to get it. You can achieve this by extreme measures of personal hygiene and moderate measures of social distancing:

- Wash your hands thoroughly. As if you've just chopped chilli peppers and you're about to remove your contact lenses. Use liquid soap or alcohol-based solution. Do it 10 times a day.

- Treat every surface as possibly infected, and your phone as a Petri dish. If possible, keep it somewhere safe with your keys and wallet and do not use it indoors, or near your bed.

- By default, cancel everything. Reduce all non-essential travel, all non-essential social interaction. Spend time with your kids indoors. Work from home if you can. Or be outdoors, keeping at least six feet between your family and other people.

- Do not shake hands. Avoid meetings in closed spaces if you can.

- But keep working, if you can. Sustain your economic contribution both demand-side and supply-side as much as you can, without exposing yourself physically. Don't watch TV and check your Facebook feed every five minutes. Stay safe, keep working.

- There is little and contested evidence that masks help a healthy individual, but it is certain they help when used by medical professionals, and when worn by people that are ill. Leave masks for those that need them.

- The elderly are particularly at risk, which is not common across all viruses. The best thing you can do for your elderly neighbours and relatives is to help them stay indoors (shop for them), but avoid seeing them in person if you can.

And remember this: democracies deal with emergencies by relying on personal responsibility and voluntary behavioural change. Take this responsibility seriously. And demonstrate leadership. It is a common misconception that leadership lies with government only. This is not true. Leadership is everywhere. Every employer, every manager, every teacher, every public servant, every parent is a leader. Everyone who makes decisions on behalf of other people is a leader. Every handshake is a decision. If you're young and healthy and fall ill, you'll most likely be OK. But the best way to protect the groups at risk, like the elderly and those with chronic conditions, is not to catch the virus yourself. Deny it the opportunity to use your body as a vector. Fight it.

The above sounds alarming, and it's meant to be. But it is not a call to panic. Panic is not only unhelpful, it is also unwarranted. Do not empty the supermarkets. We should not be anticipating shortages in staple products, so do not entertain that self-fulfilling expectation. The CDC advice is sensible: stockpile enough food in case you have to self-quarantine for two weeks. Do it responsibly: just shop twice as much in every visit, and in about a week you'll be ready. There is no reason to panic. It is very unlikely that the supply chain will collapse as a result of this virus. Its mortality is high, but not that high, and it tends to spare the demographic that is most crucial for a nation to function: adults between 20 and 40, who are the majority of our policemen, our soldiers, our firemen, our logistics employees, our doctors and our nurses. Even if we all catch this virus, the absolutely vast majority of those of us that need to keep on working for the nation to avoid collapse will survive it. This does not detract from the tragic effect this would have on the populations at-risk. But it is a cynical albeit rational reason not to panic, and not to fear collapse.

So be very pessimistic in the short-run. But be unwaveringly optimistic for the long-term. A vaccine is extremely unlikely to reach us in the next 12 months, but it is almost certain to do so in 18-24 months - the technology is well understood, well underway and there are no fundamental stumbling blocks. Meanwhile, anti-virals (which is the equivalent of antibiotics, but for viruses) will reach us far earlier; with some luck, they might be available within 2020. When they arrive, they will likely have a big impact on mortality and severity. And take solace in the fact that the virus spares children under 9 (0 deaths so far). There is some justice even in this tragedy. There is also the hope, and some weak evidence, that the virus might prove to be seasonal, like the flu, in which case the summer's arrival will give us an interlude to lick our wounds, and allow the health system and the scientific community to prepare for the coming winter.

Science has come together in an unprecedented manner to combat this epidemic. I have been watching this evolve from the very first week, and recall my heart sinking when, in early February, it was observed that the virus is contagious before symptoms appear, that telltale characteristic of pandemic-strength viruses. But I have also been deeply touched by record after record being broken by scientists all around the world. Humanity has fought much nastier bugs than this, and won, every time. We will win this time, too. Share on social media, inform your friends, protect the groups at-risk, stay at home, keep working.

Friday 13 March 2020