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Not This Time by @agent-troi

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[hadeswearsprada]

Once again think about the fact that Riker and Troi named their son after Worf

[annikasevenshots]

okay okay okay

if jack picard-crusher and sidney laforge had a kid (a picard-crusher-laforge) and (if only!) thaddeus troi-riker was alive and had a kid with soji asha soong (a troi-riker-soong) and if their two kids had a kid, then we would have the Ultimate TNG Kid:

a picard-crusher-laforge-troi-riker-soong.

[marymoss1971]

Deanna taking away Will's grief after their son's death

I just wrote a short fic about this from Deanna's perspective that I posted on Ao3, but can we talk about this?

When I first read the interview about Deanna/Will's estrangement, I got the sense that Will isolated himself from Deanna so she wouldn't feel his pain. Will even said on the show "Deanna feels everything" So, I'm like "okay, he wanted to keep her from feeling his pain.' and that led to problems between them.

But per the conversation on the Shrike, that's not what happened. Deanna took his pain away. So, she basically used her empathic powers, and their psychic bond, to manipulate his feelings. Yes, I'm sure she was doing it for his own good, but still, it's such a total violation.

Not only was what she did completely unethical from a counseling standpoint, she knows what it's like to have someone inside her head manipulating her emotions--Ambassador Alkar did it to her in "Man of the People"

Frankly, I like my idea of what caused the rift a lot better. I think Will avoiding Deanna is more plausible, plus it's relatable. It makes Will sympathetic. But to have Deanna directly use her empathic abilities, it has her crossing a line that shouldn't be crossed.

Unfortunately, that's what the show gave us. I wished they hadn't, but I'm not about to villainize Deanna. Sometimes grief causes people to do things they normally wouldn't. She obviously was in pain herself and it must have hurt to know Will was in pain also.

So, I guess she let her grief cloud her judgement.

[mylittleredgirl]

this is what the people want

nutrek writers b like 'if we dont find someone to oppress RIGHT NOW nobody is gonna watch star trek' which fr isnt the case bc if star trek: picard had been about picards life on the vineyard and literally did nothing but be a story about him making the most delicious wines and characters from other treks occasionally visiting him i would have watched the whole damn thing multiple times over

[driftwoodthrone]

Ok, so that episode of Picard was a lot.

But I think the story they're trying to tell us is one about grief. It has always been about grief for Data. The first season of Picard underscored that, and we are getting the bigger picture of how each character has been changed by it. Data's sacrifice fractured this family, but it also told us that given the chance they would have each taken his place, and I think that's what they all grapple with when they return.

It makes total sense to me that Thad and Jack were born back-to-back after Data's death, and in that timeframe, none of these characters have processed their loss. In the aftermath, Picard threw himself into life-threatening situations that didn't inspire a lot of faith in Beverly, certainly when her whole life has been painted by loss and abandonment. Was she absolutely wrong for taking that choice away from him? Yes. I don't think Beverly thought herself big enough to ask Picard to drastically change his life to fit around her and this baby. But she could do it for Jack, she can give up everything to protect him. Grief doesn't always sound rational or feel right to other people.

The end of the episode shows us exactly why Picard's stand-your-ground and fight mentality frightens them all. For Troi and Riker and Beverly and I'm sure Geordi, the emotional stakes were too high after Data. When Thad got sick, Riker and Troi left Starfleet. When Beverly and Jack were being hunted they ran. It takes Picard seventeen seconds to get to sickbay and watch Beverly revive Jack to fully understand why a parent would grab their children and run when danger is knocking on their door. The Next Generation has always been a story about legacy, of course, they're going to tell one more for its title character. Just as the story has weaved through Alexander, Thad, and Kestra. Just as we know Dahj and Soji and Elnor. We will know Sydney and Alandra. Just as it has always been about Wesley. This too is about Jack Crusher. It has always been about family.

[starry-bite]

the way will riker must be thinking, on top of everything else, that his friend's daughter is aboard the titan, and if he fails, if he falters, he'll be subjecting geordi to the same pain he's been carrying since thad died.

[agent-troi]

Borrowed Time (WIP Ask game)

ohhh boy this behemoth will never see the light of day but I'm so happy you asked about this one bc as complicated as it is I love thinking and talking about it lol

so this was meant to be a fix-it for the ending of the star trek novelverse. some important background info: the coda trilogy wrapped up the novelverse basically by retroactively wiping that timeline from existence to avert a threat to the entire multiverse, because apparently with all the new shows and tie-in novels people thought it would be too confusing to also keep the novelverse books going. well that made me pissed as hell so I wrote this short fic, The Forgotten Splinter, bringing back one of my favorite and criminally underused characters, Riker and Troi's daughter Tasha, and Borrowed Time was meant to be a follow up to that.

I have a partial outline complete with chapter titles and extensive notes on what I wanted to happen, but at some point the idea just got too complicated and overwhelming for me to contemplate lol. the short of it is that Tasha gets her memories back from the First Splinter Timeline as well as the other timeline branches that were erased, and she and the gang work together to restore that timeline while also eliminating the threat from the Devidians.

I ended up not writing very much of it except for a list of chapter titles (in rough chronological order) and one passage:

Weddings and Funerals

Sole Survivor

The Reflecting Game

Unsung Heroes

After the Silence

Out of the Silent Wormhole

We Seek the Paradox

What's Good for the Goose

Sound and Fury

More than Memory

There but for the Grace of God

Hail Mary Ex-Machina

Roll for Initiative

The Thousandth Knife

When the Dealing's Done

“The First Splinter Timeline.” Tasha laughed bitterly. “You have no idea what we did for you. What we sacrificed… and this timeline? This timeline is shit! Your version of the Federation literally banned an entire class of life-forms, and didn’t even bother to make an exception when the child of two Starfleet heroes’ life was at stake!” The Troi-Rikers visibly blanched. “And you!” Tasha exclaimed, swiveling toward Picard. “You’re a bloody admiral! Whatever happened to ‘don’t let them promote you, don’t let them transfer you, don’t let them do anything that takes you off the bridge of that ship, because while you’re there, you can make a difference’?” She paused to take a deep breath. “And why didn’t you tell Beverly you love her? She wanted you to go after her, fight for her, not let her go!” Picard was stunned speechless. Tasha continued her rant unabated. “Our timeline wasn’t perfect, but it was better than this! What kind of multiverse is this, where the timeline in which things go mostly right has to be erased from causation, while this shit timeline with all the unnecessary angst and dramatic tension gets to live on? It’s not fair, dammit!” By this point Tasha was nearly hysterical, and the tears poured in a seemingly endless flood down her cheeks. The multiple timelines’ worth of trauma she had been suppressing for six years had finally burst forth from the dam of her subconscious. Deanna’s soul cried out in pure and complete empathy. She had entertained similar thoughts ever since Thad’s diagnosis. Why did their timeline have to be the one where he died? The whole thing had made absolutely no sense, as if whoever was writing the story of their lives got a kick out of torturing their characters.

I came up with this after Picard season one aired but before two and three, so I didn't incorporate any of that into this idea lol, anyway I had some vague notion that this would be the first installment of an epic trilogy, but almost no one read my novelverse fic when I was actively writing and posting about it so I don't really have much motivation to make it happen

[authortobenamedlater]

Another possibility:

The Titan crew tries to do this with Will and Deanna. They get Thad and Kestra in on it.

The crew conspires with their captain and counselor’s children.

The Bluey smoochy-kiss episode, but it’s Sabine and Ezra and Zeb trying to get Kanan and Hera to kiss.

[isagrimorie]

For my own personal files and resource, I decided to compile Star Trek timeline relevant to Seven of Nine and the Star Trek Picard timeline.

/Edited Jun 13 8:30PM

2344 - Stardate 25479. Annika Hansen is born to Erin and Magnus Hansen in the Tendara Colony.

2350 - The Hansens go to the Delta Quadrant and shadow the Borgs.

2355 - Annika Hansen is assimilated and becomes a Borg.

2353 - April 9: Raffi Musiker is born on Earth.

2368 - Seven of Nine and other drones from her Unimatrix crash land. Seven forcibly reassimilates her fellow Unimatrix drones to return to the Collective with her.

2374 - Seven is severed from the Collective and becomes part of the Voyager crew.

2375 - Raffi becomes security officer on Starbase 39

2378 - Voyager returns Home to Alpha Quadrant with the help of Admiral Janeway from a now alternate future.

2379 - Raffi is assigned as Romulan Affairs Analyst in Starfleet Intelligence. Captain William Riker takes command of USS Titan (Luna Class) together with Counselor Deanna Troi.

2380 - Romulans discover their sun will go supernova soon and the Romulan Star Empire requests help from the United Federation of Planets.

In the upcoming Seven of Nine novels, Firewall. Starfleet continued to reject Seven's application to Starfleet. Despite Janeway's recommendation to bring Seven of Nine and even threatens to resign from Starfleet if they won't accept Seven. After two years Seven decides to join Fenris Rangers.

2381 - Raffi starts work with Jean Luc Picard as First Officer.

2385 - Thad Troi-Riker is born.

- April. Utopia Planitia is attacked. Synth ban is enacted. The Federation plan to help Romulan Empire is abandoned. - Picard resigns in protests. Raffi is left in the dust because of this action. She continues her investigations about Tal Shiar, Zhat Vash, and the Conclave of Eight.

Around this time Seven gets romantically involved with Jay, who was helping out the Fenris Rangers. Unknown to Seven that she's actually a Black Market fencer. Real name: Bjayzl.

2386 - Icheb is captured and dies.

- Raffi asked to be dishonorably discharged.

2387 - Ambassador Spock tries to save Romulus Prime. Romulus Prime explodes.

2396 - Captain Liam shaw takes command of USS Titan. The Titan was badly damaged and is reconstructed and redesigned mid-refit. Using the Luna class frame USS Titan-A becomes the Neo-Constitution III Class.

2398 - USS Titan was pulled from service after getting heavy casualties. Under Riker Titan and its crew stabilized the Beta Quadrant.

2399 - Dhaj, Soji’s sister is attacked and contacts Picard

- Seven finally avenges Icheb. Tracks down and kills Bjayzl.

- Hugh is killed, and Seven is summoned to the Artifact. Seven pilots the Artifact out of Romulan space and lands the Artifact on Coppelius for the remaining xBs to live in.

- Raffi's conspiracy theory is proven RIGHT. Zhat Vash conspiracy to destroy the Synthetic citizens of Coppelius.

- Late 2399 Raffi and Seven begin their on again and off again relationship.

- Events of No Man's Land happen with Seven and Raffi.

- Rios is reinstated in Starfleet, and becomes Captain of the Stargazer. Rios gives/sold La Sirena to Seven.

- Raffi regains her commission for Starfleet Intelligence and is immediately dropped into the situation in Ordeve. (Star Trek Picard: Second Self).

2400 - Raffi joins Starfleet Academy as an instructor, Elnor joins Starfleet as a cadet.

2401 - Raffi and Elnor join the Excelsior.

- The events of season 2 kicks off. A new transwerp is born, Jurati Borg requests to join the Federation.

- Rios decides to stay in 2024.

- Seven receives a field commission as captain and briefly commands The Stargazer.

- Janeway and Picard leans on Starfleet Command to make the commission official. Starfleet Command gives Seven full Commander rank and assigns Commander Seven of Nine to USS Titan.

- Frontier Day / The Borg Attack. USS Titan-A led by Captain Seven of Nine (field promotion) and Commander Raffi Musiker engages the Borg infected Starfleet Armada in defense of Earth and Spacedock. Enterprise-D crew finally destroys the original Borg Queen.

2402 - USS Titan-A is fixed and rechristened into the Starfleet Flagship: Enterprise-G, captained by Captain Seven of Nine with First Officer, Commander Raffi Musiker. They launch for a Shakedown cruise.

These are the adventures of the Starship Enterprise...

[hadeswearsprada]

So does Date know about Soji? Is Elnor alright? How’s Kestra doing at Star fleet academy? What the hell happened to Alexander???

[butterfingersgutterball]

Here’s a quick edit for how they could have avoided making Deanna the nagging mother telling Riker to come home to his kid in Picard S3E3:

Picard is visiting the Troi-Riker’s. Riker tells him the story while holding Thad in his arms. It’s all really heartfelt, same dialogue. Then pan over to Deanna with a bottle of whisky “yeah I’m sure that 17 seconds was really painful while I was in labour.” She takes back a shot without wincing. “Finally I can drink again”

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Sirtis is a pro at humour, she still gets the beat about wanting whisky and we get shown Riker as a father rather than told about it. The room could even still be dark and moody like they love by having Thad taking a nap in a dark room.

[brosephine-grant]

Ranted about this a ton on Twitter already but I’m so hoping the Thad & Jack parallels aren’t going to be strictly used to explore the Riker & Picard relationship at the expense of Deanna & Beverly. Terry has said we’re going to get the former, but he has also mentioned he wanted to explore what losing Wesley would do to Beverly as a mother.

Despite the icky problems with TNG’s “The Child”, I hate that Beverly wasn’t there to relate to Deanna as a parent. You have the parallel of two single mothers struggling to parent firstborn children with special qualities beyond their understanding, who they must inevitably relinquish to a higher cosmic power.

And then years later to both have second sons, both facing some kind of peril that threatens their lives, and for both mothers to leave Starfleet and try to make a life somewhere new in the hopes of hanging on to this child as long as possible.

Will and Picard both bonded with Ian and Wesley in their own way, but that added dimension of having already experienced the loss of one child (especially when that loss isn’t as straightforward as the natural death of a mortal child) and then having to face it again and what desperation that would cause is so interesting, and I don’t think we’ll get to see Marina and Gates explore it fully. :(

[annikasevenshots]

Star Trek Picard: Season 3 Episode 3 Reaction (spoilers!)

* Bev being a grounding force for Jack like yes she is so MOTHER

* "goddamn back window" IM SORRY THID IS SO FUNNY LIKE. the viewscreen won't work so you just look out the mf built in window 😭

* whose idea was it to have a viewscreen instead of a window anyway ��

* WHY ARE THEIR SKINS SMOOOOOOTH IT'S GIVING ODO DEADASS 💀💀💀

* my dad actually sent me a pretty emotional text about that fatherhood scene 🥹

* I wish we'd gotten to know Thaddeus :(

* TROI CAMEO TROI CAMEO TROI CAMEO TROI CAMEO <3 <3 <3

* Wait if Thad was born on the Titan mayhaps we could see him in LWD? As a babbby??? 🥺🥺🥺

* Ngl Shaw knowing when to relieve his crew to get rest, I respect that

* LITTLE VOY

* SEVEN FIXING THING SEVEN FIXING THING SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN

* BABY LA FORGE BABY LA FORGE BABY LA FORGE BABY LA FORGE

* SHE'S 100% COMING TO THE SPINOFF IF I SAY SO MYSELF

* also didn't shaw say seven earned her post back after finding jack last episode? what are they mf doing

* "This sounds rehearsed" SHES SO MEAN PLEASE SEVEN I WOULD REHEARSE A SPEECH IF I HAD TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF HER TOO

* me rehearsing my hellos in line to meet jeri ryan at london comic con like

* THE TITAN THEME PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND??? JUST SO GENTLY????? FUCK WHAT YALL ARE SAYING ABOUT SHAW THE TITAN IS SEVEN'S CREW <3

* COMMANDER SEVEN 📣📣📣

* "go rest, ensign" god i wish someone would tell me to go rest

* HER FOND HEADSHAKE PLEASE

* Bev being a doctor 🥺

* JACK BEING A DOBERMAN GUARD DOG AND FOR WHAT

* Honestly seeing Bev back in Sickbay again is just. Seeing Dr Beverly Crusher is just. Is just is just is just.

* FACE ACTING 📣📣📣 these people are masters of their craft i swear

* "A perfect day on borrowed time" that is actually so beautiful

* the fifth time 🤡🤡🤡 JL was keeping track and for WHAT

* guys omg,,, they bonked. they fucking bonked and they're making me think about it while staring at two geriatric people

* GATES MCFADDEN SLAY

* that is actually so well acted that's such a SLAY.

* Picard: I never want a family

* Bev: okay i'll respect that

* Picard: no not like that >:(

* See I keep forgetting that this series is actually called Star Trek Picard because everyone keeps overshadowing him. I'm so sorry PatStew these girlies are girlbossing so close to the sun

* Bev really wasn't wrong though

* "All to the same stars that own you" GUYS WHY IS THE WRITING SO 🤌🤌🤌

* i'm actually surprised at how well That Part of the fandom is coping with a secret son arc given the fact that they were furious about michael being spock's half sister. but then again 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

* "He's not Dad" HE'S DADDY 🤡👍

* The way those officers passed SO SLOWLY BETWEEN RIKER AND JACK I MEAN SAME I'D WANT ALL THE HOT GOSSIP LIKE👂

* "I owe this ship's captain an apology" bitch you owe SEVEN an apology actually be serious

* Oh my god they actually had someone standing guard at a mf WINDOW this show is so unserious

* Jesus christ Shaw

* Okay but Shaw knowing when to take a step back? I honestly respect that. That's what a good leader is about.

* EPIC TITAN FIGHT THEME sorry i will never shut up about the music

* On the note of music, KLINGON OPERA 📣📣📣

* Someone on Twitter noted that Raffi was holding a phaser very similar to Seven's Fenris Ranger one in S2 and I can't take my mind off of that like this show is so crazy detailed

* CHAMOMILE TEAAAAAA <3

* Me running to the grocery store to get chamomile tea because i want something to remind me of raffi and merchandising is shit with star trek

* Seriously just sell Worf's chamomile blend you'd make so much bank

* The red light imagery when Worf says "I have learned to access calm as well as fire" WOAHHHHHHHHHHH

* Raffi being like "I TOLD YOU THAT BITCH" and Worf being like you dumbass 🥰👍

* Actual ideal dynamic

* OH MY GOD RAFFI that speech. "My life, my family, my sobriety" FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

* Worf calling her Raffaella 😩🤌 actual top tier

* Raffi's like 👁️🤡🫴😩👉🙄🤔😤... 🆒

* Seriously Bev is such a soothing doctor, I love her so much

* Jack taking after her footsteps as well

* BEV KNOWING WHAT SHE'S DOING I LOVE HER SM ACTUALLY

* "How does she keep finding us" Shaw is actually big brained? Kinda? Like I can see Shaw as a Captain like he's Captain Brained

* The Shrike is actually so cool I'm ngl

* "She's pulled us deeper into the nebula" no? she just dragged you around the corner pls 💀

* Feeling silly goofy wanna run away and start a nightclub in District 6 of Mtalas Prime

* PLEASE RAFFI AND WORF ARE SO SIBLING CODED

* KEEP SQUABBLING MY LOVES I LOVE YOU BOTH SO MHCH

* "I told you to stay back" "It is not in my nature to stay back" THEY ARE BOTH EXACTLY THE SAME I SWEAR TO GOD

* "You look inconspicuous in that hood" "Says the Klingon in warrior gear" "It is casual" THEYRE SO UNSERIOUS

* "I'm glad to see you are feeling better" "I'm not😤" why is raffi so funny

* "Beheadings are in wednesdays" STOP BEING FUNNY MY MENTAL HEALTH CANT HANDLE THIS 😭😭😭

* SEVEN BEING UNFAZED "you're insane 🤷🏻‍♀️" WHY IS SHE HILARIOUS

* SEVEN OF NINE PLEASE KICK ME LIKE THAT

* the way i know jeri ryan asked to have a scene where they had to put on masks /hj

* "Hansen to bridge" breaks my heart every time

* RAFFI YOU CAN TAKE MY FINGERNAILS ANY TIME WHATEVER MAKES YOU HAPPY ♥️♥️♥️

* "I think I feel my chamomile tea coming back up" SHE DRANK WORF'S TEA ♥️♥️♥️

* oh my god the way raffi So gently sniffs the drug

* THAT MONOLOGUE. STEP. ON. ME. RAFFI. MUSIKER.

* RED IMAGERY??????

* YES!!!!!!!! SEVEN TO THE BRIDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TO THE BRIDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

* Ohhh now I see why it's called 17 seconds

* Dr Ohk is so baby I want to be her actually

* Is Beverly using the samsung tricorder they used last season

* That LOOK. TATTOO THIS ON ME

* WHY IS MICHELLE HURD SUCH A TOP TIER ACTRESS GODDAMNIT

* GOO MAN??????? MAN GOO GOO MAN GOO???????? GOO MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

* Being a father is making Picard make bad decisions I'm ngl

* Ooooh Raffi and Worf headed to Daystrom 👀 Will they meet La Forge and La Forge Jr I wonder?

* THE WAY THE PORTAL SHOOTS THEM BACK IN THE ASS IS SOOOOOOO COOL

* also how did none of them predict this they know the portal weapon exists

* me when i forget the enemy has reflect damage on when i game lmao rip titan

In conclusion I ate bread while watching this

[sodiumlamp]

Picard

This is Episode 7 of Season 1. I heard Riker and Troi would appear in this show back when it was airing, but that didn't hold much appeal to me. Of course they'd pepper this thing with as many guest stars and cameos as possible. But now that I'm sitting through this series, now that I'm astonished by how breathtakingly awful it is, this visit to the Troi-Riker homestead is like finding water in the desert.

(There's this old legend, more of a fairy tale, really, about a magical lake, one that appears and disappears in different places. This "roaming lake" is said to reveal itself to weary travelers and others in need of respite. I never expected it to follow me here, but I wonder...)

Will and Deanna's basic competence as cool TV characters allows them to size of the plot of the last six episodes in record time. They also aren't salty, bitter assholes like everyone else in 2399 or whatever year this is supposed to be. There's some tragedy in their past, as one of their children died from an incurable disease, but it's a believable, genuine kind of sadness, and they don't allow it to define them.

Compare this to Rios, the dull as dirt pilot Picard hired in Episode 3. The dude has barely done anything in this show except act sullen and read a book that might as well have printed on the cover "THIS IS A BOOK THAT SULLEN PEOPLE READ" He smokes cigars like that's his personality, and I guess he's right because I sure can't think of anything else to say about him. As characters, Riker and Troi run laps around him. They're engaged in the story, understand the situation quickly, and provide insight and assistance. Hell, their daughter, Kestra, is a way cooler character than Rios. Hell, their son Thaddeus is a cooler character than Rios, and he's not even in this show because he died before it takes place. Kid invented 12 languages for his fictional homeworld. Most people make their own OC's, and Thad's making original planets. Respect.

This episode still sucks, don't get me wrong. It's like the Troi-Riker appearance was designed to taunt me with hints of what a good TNG-emeritus show might resemble if they had actually made one. There's a moment where it seems like Riker and Picard are gonna tell Soji all about how much they loved serving with her cool robot dad, but it never actually manifests. Most of the rest of the visit is spent getting Picard to pull his head out of his ass, and reminding everyone that Soji is having an identity crisis, because apparently someone might have forgotten.

The rest of the episode is devoted to the usual bullshit. The Romulan spies do cheap Star Wars action stuff with Elnor, Jurati coughs up various fluids, and they almost provide some context for Raffi's whole deal, but then they cut away to some other shit. It's just weak, weak stuff.