#teagan meredith

[takingitasitcomes]

FALLOUT 1.01 THE END

[danielsarmand]

Fallout 1.01 · The End

[pedroam-bang]

Fallout (2024)

[cptrs]

[breckstonevailskier]

The Howard family and the MacLean family have a lot in common

Both have a daughter who's very much a daddy's girl. (Lucy MacLean, Janey Howard)

Both Lucy and Janey have one parent who's an evil Vault-Tec executive that was willing to nuke the world, while the other parent is morally upstanding. The morally upstanding parent also later got turned into a ghoul as a result of their evil spouse's use of nukes. Only thing different between the two families is which parent is which.

[kt248]

#Cooper #The Ghoul #Janey #Fallout #Walton Goggins #Teagan Meredith

alright hold up hold on — its actually insane that under all the layers he collected thru the wasteland the ghoul is still wearing the same thing he wore when the bombs fell (and potentially the last day he saw his daughter)…..two hundred odd years later

[ladysakurascout]

My mind just won’t stop and wait for the canon information so thought I’d share what I’ve gathered! °₊·ˈ∗♡( ˃̶᷇ ‧̫ ˂̶᷆ )♡∗ˈ‧₊°

I’m really curious as to what Cooper Howard’s age was when the bombs dropped. I’ve seen break downs of the potential age for Lucy but haven’t stumbled across an analysis for Cooper 🤔 (mainly due to there being more dates to help conclude Lucy’s age range- which by using information stated in interviews and from the show should put her right at 25-26 years old)

(It also seems like Maximus’s age could be between 25-30 years old!)

Majority of what I’ve seen has been assumptions that Cooper’s age correlates with Walton Goggins’ age- which is 52. Personally speaking I instinctively feel like that is a tad older than the character could be, but this is just my interpretation going off little.

So here are my mental notes:

Janey seems to be within the 6-8 year range which reinforces to me that he could ideally be in his late 30’s-mid or late 40’s when the bombs dropped. While it’s completely plausible she was born when Barb and Cooper were already in their 40’s (with the assumption they are close in age), I still would like to think that’s later than normal in their universe. I’m specifically highlighting a range in the 40’s first because it would only make sense for Cooper Howard to be in his 50’s when the bombs dropped, with let’s say an 8 year old daughter, if she was born when he was in his early 40’s.

It seems more likely they had Janey during the 30’s year range, resulting in Cooper Howard potentially being in his 40’s when the bomb actually dropped.

Now, in Ep. 6 “The Trap” we see a scene where Barbra refers to her time at home while Cooper was off fighting in the American-Sino war (specifically in 2067 near the start of that war, 10 years before The Great War happens)

The dates obviously show that Cooper went to war before Janey was involved in their lives but also to add- I strongly believe Barb would have additionally pointed out in that scene how she took care of herself while pregnant or took care of Janey while he was away. Given that she didn’t, further evidence they conceived her after he returned from war (which would also go with baby boomer type logic).

This puts Janey’s birth year from 2069-2071, depending on her age, between the 6-8 year range. I’m betting she is 7 years old at the start of the Great War, and was born in 2070. (I went in a deep dive a couple of weeks ago and somehow found information that stated Teagan Meredith, Janey’s actress, was 7 years old at time of filming. However, I can’t find it again? Her actress is now 9 years old)

Now- if you check out the Fallout Wiki on Cooper Howard, you’ll see this: “In an interview with Collider, Goggins described the Ghoul in terms of "the person that he is 250 years later," giving a rough timeframe and bare minimum of his age range.[12]” This could have been a general ballpark from Collider, so it’s not quite proof of anything but I’m still going to use that information and try to determine around it!!

The fallout show takes place in 2297, 219 years after 2077, when the bombs dropped. If you subtract 250 years from 2297, that leaves Cooper with an absolute minimum age of 32!

Now if he was 32, that’d mean he fought in the war in this early 20’s and had Janey by 24 years old. That idea could be realistic for some people, but to me personally, that just seems off and too young. Cooper and Barb appear physically middle-aged, and it notes that in the Wiki, which one is typically not considered “middle-aged” until their 40’s.

Also to note- looking at the posters made for Cooper Howard’s movies he seems to look between the ages of 30-40! Also many men typically start showing signs of gray hair in their mid 30’s, which goes along nicely to me that Cooper Howard has just a little gray coming in on his side burns!

Putting my estimate that he was around 38-43 years old when the bombs dropped!!!

Anyway, I have some more minuscule details but my brain is starting to hurt, forget, and this is getting quite disorganized and long….

Comment a specific age if you have one or more details to share 🤩

[tearyeyedonce-gentlesoul]

glossary (WIP)

i didn't know there was a word limit on tumblr until i made this, so i unfortunately had to remove links that would lead to specific tags and help with organizing on here. also note that this post might be remade in the future

electricpuke/rocklandgame characters: abel, adam, adam whesker, akihiko kojima, akira kojima, alchemy willow, alice (electricpuke), alice carroll, amaterasu, ami, amy, ana (rockland), ana (viral), annabelle winter, arcadian, aria king, ashley kinley, ashton kinley, athena dianoia, audrey, august dixie, avery greyson, axel, baal, cain zeitgeist, callum willow, cassiel, charlie willow, chase knox, chase valentine, christopher “chris” king, circe, damien morningstar, dante stryker, dominick torrero, dylan, edison tekker, elise, elizabeth bathory, enoch, eve, faereighn, farz murphy (electricpuke), foal, freya, gabriel, gabriel lily, grace quinn, hades, hammerclaw, hana, heidi, horus, hunter, itsuki mori, jack buchanan, jason buchanan, jason carmine (rook), jiyun, john, kali, karasu, kaz tyagi, kenny, kiku kojima, kiyoshi, kurt, lachesis chronis, lady yuzu, leo taylor, lilith, lincoln, logan, loki marshall, lucifer morningstar, macey, marco jennings, marcus de la cruz, max, melanie, meredith, mia, michael fitzroy, michael volkov, mio, molly, morgan, morgan le fey, munchie, naoki “nathan” donovan, nicolas flamel, olivia, oswalt morrison, peyton, quinton willow, rai, raizer, raja, ramiel, raphael, raphael sivori, reiko nakamura, ribbon, richter (hotelpsycho), rory stryker, rose martinez, rosey, roy mcnamara, ruby red graves, sally, samael volkov, sanae, sano kojima, sejun, sergio marino, sergio morrison, shane, shiro suzuki, sparrow, sun-mi yeon (scarlet), sydney dixie, teagan buchanan, the engineer, the REAL vincent metzger, thor, tobias reeves, trace, trevor mcloughlin, tsubaki, tyler, uriel metzger, valak, vencil cartier, veni (electricpuke), verak, vincent castillo (electricpuke), vincent metzger, vlad, xander rosario, yeon seong-mi (emily yeon), zero (dollmaker), zero (empire), zeus

gatobob characters: ashe, anthony shore, beg, celia lede, centicat, chamomile, charlie, chastity, chet ichpujani, cry, demon, derek aeron, derek goffard, dirty the possum, dragon, evander hutch, farz murphy (gatobob), farzen, fox, gideon bautista, harold, jack, jaqueline, jedka (facility), jesse, komodo, lawrence oleander, lich, lily talor, machete, marten trell, mason armbruster, mason heiral, matt, mona winters, raid, randall, raven, ren hana, rhodes, richard, roadkill girl, samantha, scream, sid, stan, strade, tom, trigger, veni (gatobob), vincent castillo (gatobob) (gatobob), vincent castillo (gatobob)

other notable characters: a.e.d, ellen klein, izm, lucien rire, rodchester williams, shaun

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known aliases/blogs:

arioddsandends, askparasitegods, doctor-dollmaker, electricpuke, fuckbyknifepoint, nagakira, nurseharlot, rocklandgames, scarletaegis, scarletmarionette, trentboyett

gatoanswers, gatoafterdark, gatobob, gatobob-spotty, gatoplays-sos, gatxbxb, gurobob, gurpbob, serpulalacrymans

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eras (label for creator universes): altinr, arcane, boyfriend to death, crazy au, dark circus au, devil's night carnival, dollmaker, empire, facility, foxtail, human!au, huntress, inferno, mark of belial, nightclub, of gods and monsters, rockland, route 66, self insert, the artist, the carnival game, the commander, the doctor, the hunt, the misfits, the price of flesh, the puppetmaster, the serial killer, this is not romance, till death do us part, viral, welcome home, yanaki, you kill me every time, zeitgeist

[dragonagepolls]

Crowdsourcing time: Who are your favourite Dragon Age NPCs? (Feel free to list as many as you like)

Planning to do a poll on people’s favourite NPCs (romanceable NPCs, i.e. Cullen and Josephine, will not be included because obviously they’ll win). Obviously I can’t list every single NPC so I’m just trying to gauge the most popular ones. If they appear in multiple games they’ll only be included in the first game they were a part of. Here are the ones I’m thinking of so far:

Origins: Anora, Bhelen, Bodahn, King Cailan, Connor, Dagna, Duncan, Eamon, Flemeth, Ser Gilmore, Gorim, Greagoir, Harrowmont, Arl Howe, Irving, Isolde, Jowan, the Lady of the Forest, the Mad Hermit, Marethari, Niall, Rica, Ruck, Sandal, Shianni, Tamlen, Teagan, Witherfang, Zathrian

2: Arianni, The Arishok, Bartrand, Charade, Donnic, Viscount Dumar, Elthina, Emeric, Feynriel, Gamlen, Gascard, Ginnis, Hubert, Jethann, Ketojan, Leandra, Meraas, Meredith, Orana, Orsino, Petrice, Samson, Seamus, Thrask, Varnell

Inquisition: Ameridan, Ser Barris, Briala, Calpernia, Celene, Dennet, Fairbanks, Fiona, Giselle, Florianne, Krem, Maryden

[mabaris]

Ultimate Meow Meow Poll

However you define your poor little meow-meows, the Dragon Age series has plenty to choose from. But who is the saddest, wettest, cringefailiest, morally ambigu-est, crimes-against-godliest?

Preliminary voting will run for one week, and the top 2 from each poll will advance to the bracket. Once the tournament begins, each round will last for 24 hours.

Pick up your faves by the scruff of the neck and cast your votes!

Cole/Connor/Fenris/Keran/Jowan/Tamlen

Anders/Cullen/Carver/Maric/Nathaniel/Velanna

Alain/Bethany/Blackwall/Feynriel/Merrill/Mhairi

Ariane/Calpernia/Daveth/Fiona/Isabela/Zevran

Leandra/Leliana/Maferath/Sera/Tallis/Teagan

Bartrand/Florianne/Gamlen/Oghren/Threnn/Worthy

Bianca/Cauthrien/Leske/Shale/Taliesen/Zathrian

Evelina/Imshael/Javaris/Minaeve/Pol/Sandal

Fairbanks/Karl/Ketojan/Mouse/Soris/Saemus

Corypheus/Jarvia/the Mother/Petrice/Uldred/Viddasala

Andraste/Clarel/Orsino/Solas/Swiftrunner/Varania

The Architect/Branka/Maddox/Morrigan/Samson/Stroud

Dagna/Finn/Krem/Renn/Shianni/Varric

Alistair/Dorian/Duncan/Sebastian/Sigrun/Xenon

Alexius/Briala/Gaspard/Loghain/Meredith/Lady of the Forest

Anora/Genitivi/Iron Bull/Malcolm/Valta/Vivienne

The tournament will be under the tag #meow meow poll if you want to follow it!

[roguerambles]

I’ve been replaying a lot of Dragon Age recently and you know what we were robbed of? Bann Teagan in his hoe era.

I mean we all know he flirts with the Female Warden at Redcliffe, are you telling me that man wouldn’t have jumped into bed with Warden at the nearest opportunity? We just survived an undead siege, saved Redcliffe from his possessed nephew, saved his brother’s life with magical ashes, glad to alive sex is a thing, you know.

(Also, you know Zevran would be so down to join in)

He also would have been all over Hawke during his visit to Kirkwall. Meredith is having a fit because King Alistair STILL hasn’t left yet because his sort of uncle is too busy banging the Champion.

Hell, I’m surprised he wasn’t at Redcliffe making eyes at the Inquisitor when they save Redcliffe, that’s seems to be his thing (imagine THAT coming up during Tresspasser? Pause the Council to deal with the Qunari invasion and make out with the Ferelden Ambassador)

I don’t know how it would even happen but if Teagan shows up in Dreadwolf and isn’t bangable I will be sad-- 

[janeyjhoward]

FOR REFERENCE (Face Claim Selection): Older than 25: Zoe Kravitz Younger than 25: Zendaya Younger than 10: Teagan Meredith

[msommers]

intimacy, friendship, fate for maeve, riya and meredith!

this time i just forgot to hit post whoops. thank you alana!! xx // oc asks: relationships edition

Intimacy: Is your OC the type of person to engage in long-term relationships, or are they more casual in their intimacy and affection? How do they feel about intimacy and relationships in general?

MAEVE — the thing is that maeve could engage in relationships outside of the long-term, but there would be nothing casual about them given that It's Maeve. any partner of hers is going to be spoiled with affection, attention and goods lmao. 90% chance she's gonna write something about them. i’ve written essays on maeve's feelings on this subject, so to keep it simple: she's in love with love, intimacy is her middle name, she collects relationships like pokemon, and would probably perish like a fish out of water if she was starved of these things.

RIYA — her history has definitely been more casual, there have been one or two people that she'd mess around with sporadically over multiple years, but even then it was just for reliable fun and victor was the first time she entered anything of the Committed type. i don't think she consciously noticed her views on intimacy evolving while with him, but they did and those changes will become more apparent to her now that all she can do is sit with the memories. she'll start to understand there's a difference when it comes to Romantic intimacy and that’s going to be something she misses whenever that it becomes relevant.

MEREDITH — i don’t know if she’d be able to handle a casual relationship. meredith's friendly and relatively open to folk, but if she lets somebody approach anything near intimate then they've been Chosen, y’know. she doesn't want anything fleeting, she needs loyalty and consistency and dedication. she'd sooner take intensity over casualness tbh. she takes comfort in the intimacy that comes from relationships, in knowing someone wants to display affection for her and knows how she'd like to receive it.

Friendship: What's your OC like as a friend? How are they at making new friends? What are the most important friendships in your OC's life?

MAEVE — she's steadily racked up an egregious amount of friends through the years due to her charm and being such a goodie good. that type of person in the group who can go "i know a guy" about nearly anything. i won't give names because all of her friendships are equally valued in her heart (i lied, grey's her most treasured friend 💜). she's kinda the dream friend?? she'll pay for any of your outings, is the kindest shoulder to cry on, is incredibly attentive to your feelings and needs, will bend over backwards to help you whenever necessary no questions asked, etc etc. just don't ask her to help make the holiday dinner the friendship will be ruined just let her host the party

RIYA — the friend who's there to gossip or get petty if you need that energy. happy to include you in her expensive activities because she likes spoiling people close to her. always ready to throw down for you even if you don't necessarily ask for it. riya's either very good or very bad at making friends and that depends on the type of crowd she's in, because uh. she's not everybody's cup of tea. her most important friendships are those with her family members, and now the warden squad for obvious reasons.

MEREDITH — she’ll go on whole ass quests for her friends, feels like that explains a good deal itself. everybody needs that one friend who will defend you in encounters, go to the ends of the earth for you at a moment's notice, and be unafraid to call you out on some nonsense you're pulling lmao. she's superb at making friends, that charisma and insight will take her a long way if she's not speaking to a baddie (derogatory). alistair, nathaniel, leliana and teagan are her most important friendships probs.

Fate: Does your OC believe in destined meetings? True love, soulmates, hearing the bells? Have they ever experienced this?

MAEVE — cannot be stated enough how deeply she believes in it all lmao true love's kiss being magic, people finding each other through fate, having multiple soulmates, you name any sappy trope and she's a believer in it. of course she's experienced these things because maeve's living a fairy tale 90% of the time and it's what she deserves. anything with ilya is the prime example but she's been given multiple soulmate related things bc i myself (and other enablers) like to spoil her 🥰

RIYA — she for sure believes in those things just because she believes in destiny overall. umm. i don't think there's any like #canonevent that has occurred with fated moments so far that,,,but if you think about it,,,,if you squint. kinda wild how riya ended up in the company of a supportive dreamer mage 🤔 exactly when she needed that kind of aid 🤔🤔 kinda sussy. (she’s gonna find a reason to think so many things are destined, people are gonna hate it)

MEREDITH — she’s more of a butterfly effect kind of lady, i think. actions have reactions and consequences that all lead somewhere in the end. it wasn’t destiny that had her marching around ferelden during the blight, it was just highever being the first domino to fall. true love tho, that she can get behind. you don't have to be written in the stars to find somebody who will become your other half with plenty of trust, time and effort.

[sanguine-recollection]

Characters:

Abel, Adam, Adam Whesker, Akihiko Kojima, Akira Kojima, Alchemy Willow, Alice (ElectricPuke), Alice Carroll, Amaterasu, Ami, Amy, Ana (Rockland), Ana (Viral), Annabelle Winter, Arcadian, Aria King, Ashley Kinley, Ashton Kinley, Athena Dianoia, Audrey, August Dixie, Avery Greyson, Axel

Baal

Cain Zeitgeist, Callum Willow, Cassiel, Charlie Willow, Chase Knox, Chase Valentine, Christopher “Chris” King, Circe

Damien Morningstar, Dante Stryker, Dominick Torrero, Dylan

Edison Tekker, Elise, Elizabeth Bathory, Enoch, Eve

Faereighn, Farz Murphy (ElectricPuke), Foal, Freya

Gabriel, Gabriel Lily, Grace Quinn

Hades, Hammerclaw, Hana, Heidi, Horus, Hunter

Itsuki Mori

Jack Buchanan, Jason Buchanan, Jason Carmine (Rook), Jiyun, John

Kali, Karasu, Kaz Tyagi, Kenny, Kiku Kojima, Kiyoshi, Kurt

Lachesis Chronis, Lady Yuzu, Leo Taylor, Lilith, Lily Taylor, Lincoln, Logan, Loki Marshall, Lucifer Morningstar

Macey, Marco Jennings, Marcus De La Cruz, Max, Melanie, Meredith, Mia, Michael Fitzroy, Michael Volkov, Mio, Molly, Morgan, Morgan Le Fey, Munchie

Naoki “Nathan” Donovan, Nicolas Flamel

Olivia, Oswalt Morrison

Peyton

Quinton Willow

Rai, Raizer, Raja, Ramiel, Raphael, Raphael Sivori, Reiko Nakamura, Ribbon, Richter (hotelPSYCHO), Rory Stryker, Rose Martinez, Rosey, Roy McNamara, Ruby Red Graves

Sally, Samael Volkov, Sanae, Sano Kojima, Sejun, Seong-Mi Yeon (Emily), Sergio Marino, Sergio Morrison, Shane, Shiro Suzuki, Sparrow, Sun-Mi Yeon (Scarlet), Sydney Dixie

Teagan Buchanan, The Engineer, Thor, Tobias Reeves, Trace, Trevor McLoughlin, Tsubaki, Tyler

Uriel Metzger

Valak, Vencil Cartier, Veni (ElectricPuke), Verak, Vincent Castillo (Electricpuke), Vincent Metzger, Vincent Metzger (Lesser Angel), Vlad

Xander Rosario

Zero (Dollmaker), Zero (Empire), Zeus

Known aliases/blogs:

arioddsandends, askparasitegods

doctor-dollmaker

electricpuke

fuckbyknifepoint

nagakira, nurseharlot, rocklandgames

runawayoutlaw

scarletaegis, scarletmarionette, trentboyett

Projects (Either created or partook in):

Arcane

Boyfriend to Death - Includes Boyfriend to Death 2

Crazy AU

Dark Circus AU, Devil's Night Carnival, Dollmaker

Empire

Foxtail

Huntress

Inferno

Mark of Belial

Nightclub

Of Gods And Monsters

Rockland - Includes Rockland: MOB, Rockland: Most Wanted, Rockland: The Hand of God, Rockland: The Misfits (Note that these are organized alphabetically. I am unsure what order they're in chronologically), Route 66

Self Insert

The Artist, The Carnival Game, The Commander, The Doctor, The Hunt, The Puppetmaster, The Serial Killer, Till Death Do Us Part

Viral

Welcome Home - Includes Welcome Home: Farmhouse and Welcome Home: Mansion

YanAki

Zeitgeist

[loustica-lucia]

Let's try lmao (update: I think I'm crazy about Dragon Age. Nah, I AM crazy. Truly. Help.)

Varric Tethras

Fenris

Merrill

Carver Hawke

Bethany Hawke

Isabela

Aveline

Sebastian

Orsino

Meredith Stannard

Alistair Theirin

Fergus Cousland

Eleanor Cousland

Bryce Cousland

Oren Cousland

Oriana Cousland

William Cousland

Tamlen

Loghain Mac Tir

Fiona

Cailan Theirin

Celia Mac Tir

Kieran

Eamon Guerrin

Rendorn Guerrin

Connor Guerrin

Teagan Guerrin

Thalia Aurum

Rowan Guerrin

Morrigan

Flemeth

Yavana

Mythal

Sten

Léliana

Zévran Arainai

The Arishak

The Iron Bull

Taash

The Dragon-King

Oghren

Dagna

Branka

Felsi

Shale

Shianni

Sigrun

Velanna

Wynne

Rhys

Evangeline

Garahel

Isseya

Duncan

Antoine

Evka Ivo

Solas

Cullen Rutherford

Samson

Sister Petrice

Elgar'nan

Ghilan'nain

Dirthamen

Nadas Dirthalen

Anaris

June

Falon'din

Andruil

Sylaise

Joséphine Montilyet

Cassandra Pentaghast

Divine Victoria

Regalyan

Avexis

Anthony Pentaghast

Divine Beatrix

Emmrich Volkarin

Davrin

Abelas

Krem

Endrin Aeducan

Aelia

Danarius

Felix Alexius

Geron Alexius

Dorian Pavus

Alora

Charade Amell

Malcolm Hawke

Gamlen Amell

Leandra Amell

Cabot

Calpernia

Andarateia Cantori

Viago de Riva

Lucanis Dellamorte

Illario Dellamorte

Caterina Dellamorte

Vorgoth

Myrna

Strife

Irelin

Sandal Feddic

Bartrand Tethras

Blackwall/Thom Rainier

Gordon Blackwall

Briala

Celene Valmont

Tyrdda bright-axe

the lady of the forest

the lady of the sky

the caretaker

Cole

Sera

Vivienne

Telana

Ameridan

Ashur/The Viper

Tarquin

Ariane

Arianni

Assan

Elek Tavor

Gaspard de Chalon

Ferdinand Genitivi

Cyril de Montfort

Prosper de Montfort

Tallis

Tractus Danarius

Varania

Gaius

Vaea

Athenril

Charter

Corypheus

Xenon tthe Antiquarian

Livus Erimond

Felicia Erimond

Cyrian Lutare

Bellara Lutare

Neve Gallus

Butcher Kithlord Daathrata

Faribanks (I forgot his real name)

Bodahn Feddic

Felassan (almost forgot him omg)

Filda

the dark wolf from Awakening

Bianca (the crossbow)

Bianca Davri (I think that's her full name but not sure)

Marlowe Dumar

Dumar junior (I don't remember his name?? Saemus?)

Fletcher

Flynn

Halos

Zither the bard

Maryden Halewell

Lace Harding

Aaron Hawthorne

Heir

Mother Giselle

Nathaniel Howe

Rendon Howe

Delilah Howe

Greagoir

Irving

Isolde

Jacobus

MANFRED OMG MANFRED

Johanna Ezenkoss

Maferath

Jowan

Justice

Spite

Marjolaine

Divine Justinia

Karash

Shathann

Maevaris Tilani

Larius

Chance

Lusacan

Olivia Pryde

Mhairi

Minaeve

Anders (I forgot him??)

Miriam

Hira

Lacklon

Roland

Qwydion

Rezaren

Tassia

Neb

Zara Renata

Renn

Valta

Taliesen

MOUSE from DAO in the fade

Pol

Nan

Marius

Tessa

Francesca

Calix

Autumn the mabari, very important

Nesealeus

Shirallas

Zathrian??

I could go on but that's taking forever lmao

*includes any character you can take control of, other than the player-designed protagonists. personally i’m not counting the darkspawn chronicles because that’s kinda complicated, but i *am* counting da journeys and legends and also dai multiplayer, a tale of orzammar, and any NAMED summons that you can take control of. and veilguard counts, even if you can’t fully control your companions

there are a few nuances to what counts as a single character (eg. is there 1 dog in dao or are there 4? i generally just count 1) but just give a ballpark answer

(yes there are more than 100. i got to 103)

[breadedsinner]

Don’t rebagel

“Why is Wynne so low are you afraid of older women getting pussy?”

No but I recall her talks to a Warden for both Alistair and Zevran romance and while I don’t dislike her, she strikes me as a bit of a hater.