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So it's implied that they avalanched Titus from District 6 because he was eating the other Tributes, and they did start promptly removing the bodies because of him. And Katniss says the Capitol audience finds cannibalism distasteful. But now it's like, how many elderly Capitolites remember turning to it in the Dark Days? How many old Persephone Prices felt extra sick during his Games?
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District 12 being one of the poorest, underfed Districts showing how ripe a revolution really was and they were also coal miners and associated the most with music and singing and mockingjays and songbirds they were literally the canary in a coal mine
#I’ve connect the dots#you didn’t connect shit#sorry if this has been pointed out before it only took me 10 years to get this#the hunger games#hunger games#katniss everdeen#district 12#oh and in#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#you really see the seeds of this#tbosas#thg#safirefire
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I feel like Lucy Gray’s fashion sense had an influence on the Capitol. It’s mentioned in the book that she’s wearing makeup, which is notable to Coriolanus and he wonders where she got it from since it was barely becoming accessible again in the Capitol. In the movie one of his classmates mocks what she is wearing, asking if she thinks she’s a clown. It isn’t common to dress like her, but she owns her own style and the Capitol LOVES her. Coriolanus, as he tries to get sponsors for her, makes the case that since she is Covey perhaps she isn’t really district at all, in fact she’s really more Capitol than anything… and perhaps it rubbed off. Perhaps her sense of extra-ness, her fun makeup even at the reaping, her colorful dress at a dark occasion….perhaps that’s one part of her legacy that never truly goes away, even when the name of Lucy Gray Baird is erased from the memories of the people of Panem.
#I know it’s a stretch…#but it really stood out to me#like#someone saying ‘who does she think she is a clown’ in THE HUNGER GAMES?#out of the mouth of someone from the CAPITOL?#plus that line in the book about where her makeup came from#someone from the Capitol seriously surprised to see somebody in makeup#it’s possible they just continued to evolve as a culture#and they naturally assumed a more colorful and over-the-top style#but no I’m going to connect it to Lucy Gray bc I love her#lucy gray baird#coriolanus snow#tbosbas#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#the hunger games#tbosas
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i think the most frustrating part about tbosas is the fact that you want to root for coryo. you want him to be a better man for lucy gray. you want him and sejanus to become closer, to become the best friends sejanus believes them to be. you want him to run away and find a way to relearn all the oppressive and tyrannical ideals the capitol instilled in him.
but that’s not what happens.
coriolanus isn’t necessarily a good person. he’s not a bad person either, not yet, but he’s no where near good. and rather than try to be good, he gives up, he lets himself “go bad”, he rats out sejanus, he lets his anger get the best of him and loses lucy gray.
the idea that coryo could be a good person but chooses not to be is exactly the reason this book and this character are brilliant.
#idk if this comes across the way i wanted it to#i am in no way excusing his actions at all please do not think i am#he has done unimaginable things and damage and has caused so much horror#but the idea isn’t that he’s evil because there’s nothing else to be#he CHOOSES it#that’s what makes him even worse#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#tbosas#coriolanus snow#suzzane collins#lucy gray baird#sejanus plinth#i’m pretty sure people have made this connection but#i just wanted to add my two cents#suzanne collins is a genius
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maybe we shouldn’t ban tiktok
#BECAUSE THIS CONNECTION IS SO REAL#saltburn#oliver quick#felix catton#cattonquick#tbosas#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#coriolanus snow#sejanus plinth#snowjanus#the talented mr ripley#dickie greenleaf#tom ripley
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There's something so interesting about these shots to me.
I was just looking through google images - finding inspo whatever- and I came across a few images like this.
What I find interesting is that when they're in the Capitol (and also when Snow gets to 12 in the very beginning) Lucy Gray is almost always "looking up" at Coriolanus.
I guess I would translate that as her "trusting him" because she can look to him for safety or to feel safe.
BUT the moment she catches him in the "three person" lie-- she's suddenly put on "his level" (aka the picture on the right). She is aware to an extent who he is-- what he'll do for power/success/to save himself. She suddenly has this new knowledge of who Coriolanus Snow is-- and she's no longer "looking to him"... she no longer trusts him.
What do you think? Do you see what I mean?
#Snowbaird#Coriolanus Snow#Lucy Gray Baird#the hunger games#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#tbosas#thg#hunger games#bosas#Snow#Lucy Gray#Coriolanus#I don't think it's TOO far of a reach to make this “connection”! Let me know if you agree or whatever else<3 I like 2 discuss little detail
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Also, just the fact that Suzanne Collins sat down to write President Snow's backstory like "let me tell you about the time he FELL IN LOVE WITH A DISTRICT 12 GIRL IN THE HUNGER GAMES" I mean good lord. HER MIND.
#tbosas#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#hunger games#snowbaird#like who predicted that#it just makes everything in thg so much more personal#and tragic#plus the connection with tigris#catch me wanting a book about coin/district 13 next
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I see what you did there Suzanne Collins, i see you
#hunger games#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#tbosas#president snow#lucy gray baird#katniss everdeen#peeta mellark#katniss and peeta#everlark#catching fire#mockingjay#i’ve connected the dots
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Okay expanding on the take "Haymitch's girlfriend was the daughter of Maude Ivory": with other headcanons she was a Everdeen, sister of Katniss's dad, and so...
What if Haymitch choose Katniss not because she was a great hunter but because it was personal? I mean Peeta is strong. And likeable. A male with strong arms and charisma. It would had be the right choice, right? Investing on his survival. Hell, he was part of the pack, he seems to have more chance then Katniss anyway at first.
Instead.
Instead there was this tiny angry sulking girl. Yeah great hunter, but unlikeable. Almost unlovable until Peeta makes her desirable.
But she has the same eyes as his late girlfriend. Color, and shape, even the eyebrows. Everdeen eyes, Haymich thought - even if, in reality, they were Baird eyes.
And he can not stand it. He can not stand to watch again while Coriolanus Snow kills her. He have to save her. He have to save her with a force that he did not feel with any other Tribute ever.
Because she is her.
Katniss is her. Connected. Bonded.
He looks in her eyes and he sees his loved one, memories buried in alchool resurfacing, all the happy times and he knew, he knew that winning is somehow worst then die, because it's train you can not left behind, because Capitol City will suck her life out of her, and yet...
He looks at her and sees her eyes and he knew, he could not let her die.
#haymitch abernathy#sunrise on the reaping#sotr#okay this came out... worst and better#at the same time#now this is my new headcanon thank you#let you all be destroyed like me please yes#lucy gray baird#tag for the eyes#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#tbosas#so haymitch will too be connected to president snow and a baird girl#also I headcanon that president Snow will only discover later that she was a Baird#and was orrified#his little Maude Ivory his little almost sister#what he did to her#omg#the angst#segnalino#the hunger games#thg
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feel like some people don’t comprehend that partially the point of tbosas is that you can sympathize with Coryo. It never excuses his actions nor does it try to, but it’s way more complicated than Coryo just being ‘psycho’
#more on this when I post my notes from the book#it just irks me a little some of the interpretations I’ve seen but to each#their own#I just feel like coryo is a human and humans are complicated#at least from what I’ve read like I can obviously pick out the odd behavior and thoughts from him but at the same time#there’s parts of his thoughts that are so like#relatable and expected for someone in his circumstance#and I do think coryo and katniss mirror one another which is a whole other thi nd#thing#IDK#someone tell me you get me#because I just keep seeing so much about coryo being like straight evil the whole time and I don’t think that’s right and it does Suzanne’s#character work an injustice#also I do think he thinks he has a superiority over lucy gray and a sense of ownership but#it still feels more complicated than that#like it’s so clearly connected to his trauma of losing his mother and seeking out validation and love too#and that’s coming out in a toxic way instead of an actual love#god#kit talks#tbosas#coriolanus snow
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When Katniss remembers the arid arena with no wood, she says there was just some shrubbery, and some tributes were bitten by venomous snakes and "went insane with thirst." It reminded me of the Tenth with its stark arena, snakes, and rabid Jessup, insane and thirsty.
I wonder if there was some Games in Katniss's lifetime that tried a throwback Thursday.
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All the most important mentor-tribute duos are a boy and a girl, except for Marcus and Sejanus… gay
#excluding brandy and arachne but they die early on#yes it’s bc strabo bought sejanus the mentorship for district 2 specifically yada yada#but still why not the girl#yes it’s for plot reasons cause marcus is extremely important to sejanus’s character for a plethora of reasons yada yada#tell me that’s not even gayer#they have the red string of fate tying them to each other#they were always meant to meet again under the worst circumstances possible#(extremely homosexual of them)#marcus left a lasting impact on sejanus when they were just children and influenced him into becoming the person he is#sejanus wouldn’t have been the same person we got to know if he had never had marcus in his life#and if they hadn’t met again the way they did#they were incredibly not normal about each other when they met again#they both died by their throats while hanging#marcus is the only tribute with a roman name to show even more that they have an unbreakable connection#their souls are spiritually connected and will always find their way back to each other#now tell me all of this isn’t even gayer!!!#you caaaaan’t#i don't caaaaare they’re gaaay idc idc#sejarcus#marcus tbosas#sejanus plinth
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wait is the man who they say murdered 3 in the hanging tree song coriolanus snow??
something something the last bit of corio died with sejanus at the tree
something something he told her to run so they could both be free
something something strange things have happened here
#idk am I the last one to connect this?#it had more connections last night at 2 am#coriolanus snow#president snow#sejanus plinth#sejanus deserved better#lucy gray baird#lucy grey#the hunger games#tbosbas#tbosas#the ballad of songbirds and snakes
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Mormons saw this shit and said “let me put coffee creamer in Diet Coke.”
#Utah is so pretty#it’s a shame the vibes are ATROCIOUS#you’d think this is entirely unrelated to TBOSAS#But in my head#there is a connection#I can’t seem to stop with the mormon slander
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“There is a point to everything. Or nothing at all. Depending on your world view.”
OK FUCK ME UP SUZANNE
#she said “EVEN THE SMALL THINGS MATTER IN THIS”#that’s how I feel about her writing in general. she just sort of tells you what you might be curious about but it’s almost hidden. you gotta#find it. and be clever enough to connect odd things together. you know really search.#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#the hunger games#suzanne collins#tbosas#thg#hunger games#coriolanus snow#lucy gray baird#sejanus plinth#katniss everdeen#bosas
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Ravinstill gossip(?)
Ravinstill A: You know...Uncle and Cleopatra were acting strange back then. Do you think they might have...
Ravinstill B: It's Cleopatra Dovecote, who wouldn't?
Ravinstill C: Not me, thanks. I rather not die when she got tired of me.
Ravinstill B: Suit yourself.
Ravinstill D: Ugh, are you on about her again? She talked to you once when you were 6 and you literally made her your whole personality.
#ravinstill lovechild allegations dialogue#the adult ravinstills are connecting dots trying to figure out IF Endymion is a secret ravinstill or something#and are they making sense? ... probably not#tbosas au#time travelling clemmie
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