#taryn talks

[decidueyes]

this is a serious game about saving the world😅

[p-taryn-dactyl]

ok so i have a request

could anyone, idc if it’s the same person over anon or not, send in questions about the script im writing? like about the characters or plot or anything? even like what music i would want playing would be a great question! i’ve been wanting to work on it but i think this would be a great way for me to get my inspo for it back?

also, i have a few fics ready to be posted soon - my queue hasn’t been working so i didn’t know a lot of the things i thought were already out have not been posted so i apologize about that!

🫶🏻

[depressedhatakekakashi]

Why is that a bad term to use if you’re not gay?

(I am gay just not well versed in terms and stuff in the community, I’m only recently coming out)

It’s just really wrongly used in non gay circles tbh. Like, there’s nothing about Kakashi that fits the actual meaning of ‘twink’ as it was originally used in gay circle

Since the anon used Kakashi and Gai, so will I

Cannonly, Kakashi and Gai are the same build

There’s not a huge diffrence between these two. Gai isn’t 2X kakashi’s size or height, yet a lot of fandom portrays them that way. Now i’m not against beefy gai, i love him, but when you have to make one of the two super skinny and tiny while the other is huge, there’s a bit of hetero bullshit going on and it’s really homophobic. I’m not the expert to ask here but i’ve seen the discussions and really studied them and it took me a while but i get it

These two are the same build and height and i don’t think that needs to be changed to make them ‘a perfect couple’. It’s not their build i like, it’s their bond.

If you mix ‘make gai 2x kakashi’s size AND darker skinned, you’re treading into some really racist trope’

I personally don’t like twink because it’s used f***ing wrong (sometimes even by gay guys). Kakashi is not a twink. He’s not super thin (especially compared to gai or Obito)

To call him a twink is stupid and honestly just comes off as needing to give him a label as a ‘bottom’ (psst, not all ‘twinks’ are bottoms) and it’s f***ing gross

[tiny-tyrant-taryn]

Til the day I die, my claim to fame is gonna be that I was the person Brian chose for audience participation in the Grunch.

My asexual ass is going to forever be that person who yelled COCK with Corey Dorris...

Worth it.

In related news; watch How the Grunch Cribbed Christmas by the Tin Can Bros releasing now on Youtube.

Scooby-Doo meets the Grinch meets comedic holiday existentialism.

[tiny-tyrant-taryn]

So we've got no proof, but according to stories, my great-grandfather got a woman pregnant in France during ww2

When she tried to get him to meet her family so they could marry, he fucked off back to the states where he proceeded to father 8 more children, and repeatedly get arrested for adultry.

I love the man. But as his heir and executor, I am constantly afraid of theoretically receiving "hello he was my father" phone calls because I will have a lot of trouble disputing them. 😅

Holy shit.

[madockisser]

madoc encouraging murder to his thousands of bastard/adopted/in law children

[thedeathdeelers]

me when the murderous villain is hot (or even worse: is hotter than the main lead):

[elderwisp]

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Atlas: So your boss had you work through your break? Bee… 

Taryn: It’s fiiine, I ate my granola bar in between sorting books.

Atlas: You know that isn’t a healthy place to be at, right?

Taryn: Yeah, but it pays decently.

Atlas: Are you like the sole provider of your house…?

Taryn: Oh no! I’m not sure if Kai mentioned it, but our parents are in Selvadorada taking care of my grandma. She’s really sick and well, we made this arrangement. They take care of a majority of rent and Kai and I take care of utilities and the rest. 

Atlas: Ah, I see. I’m sorry to hear about your grandma.

Taryn: I appreciate it. She’s a kind woman, she used to make me champurrado on Christmas and it was the best.

Atlas: That’s really sweet. I’ve always wondered what that tastes like. Growing up, Toni was adamant on us not meeting our grandparents, so we never got to experience anything. Is it just fancy hot chocolate?

Taryn: I mean it has chocolate, but the consistency and flavor is a bit different.

Atlas: Huh… Want to make some later on tonight?

Taryn: Sure! I was actually wondering, you seemed a bit eager to skip out on that party.

Atlas: Do you still feel bad? Don’t! Besides Dan couldn’t even type out a proper response which tells me they’re having a great time… Without me.

Taryn: So you did want to go.

Atlas: No! No. 

Atlas: I didn’t want to see Frances. That’s the honest answer. 

Taryn: OH, I’m so sorry, I didn’t realize things were bad.

Atlas: Nah, I’m sorry, I didn’t want to sour the evening. 

Taryn: Atlas, you don’t have to pretend around me. What’s on your mind?

Atlas: Frances and I… We have our differences. Sometimes it feels like the things that matter to me aren’t important to her and that’s fine, I guess.

Taryn: And this is in regards to?

 Atlas: Toni. She feels like I have something to prove. 

Taryn: But you do. 

Atlas: Taryn-

Taryn: And you know you shouldn’t. 

Atlas: But-

Taryn: So the question is, why? 

Atlas: I think it’s the satisfaction of beating an impossible challenge. God, I sound like I’m into being humiliated or something.

Taryn: He isn’t worth it but you already know that. My job also isn’t worth it, I’m aware but people often do things that we know aren’t good for us. As for Frances, she isn’t your enemy, but I think maybe the two of you need to find common ground in how you both communicate. 

Atlas: [ begins to attempt to speak before falling silent again ]

Taryn: What?

Atlas: Nothing, I’m just glad to be here with you. Thank you. [ bewp ] Your glasses keep slipping down your face.

Taryn: I know, I need to get them fixed- Wait, don’t change the subject. You have something to say. 

Atlas: I dunno what you’re talking about. 

Taryn: Atlas the bike-

Atlas: Wha- Fuck! 

Taryn: I- We should head back.

Atlas: Yeah, of course.

[tiny-tyrant-taryn]

My confidence is never higher than when I have tardis blue hair and black lipstick.

Like I've shrugged off every little voice telling me what's wrong with myself.

It's amazing what one or two personal choices can do to change your outlook.

adjacent advice: if you need more confidence, get a cool jacket or a haircut or something and think about how cool it makes you. this is loser advice, but we're all losers here. swallow your pride and roleplay as a cool guy and you'll become a cool guy.

[decidueyes]

I finished reading the Dungeon Meshi manga recently. Cuz the anime is so good I couldn't wait for a second season lol. Its really good tho, there's a lot of cool stuff I'm excited to see animated :) Such as: (big manga spoilers obviously):

-The succubus episode -The rabbit episode -The party vs Thistle's dragons -Kabru and Mithrun's adventure + Mithrun's backstory -Marcille "giving birth" to the Winged Lion by summoning him from the books in her pants -Dungeon Lord Marcille -The bird familiars combining into one giant bird -The flying snake -Kabru punching Laios -The werewolf guy being puppy :) -Laios' fursona becomes real -Laios eating the Winged Lion

[p-taryn-dactyl]

besties based off of title alone, would you read a fanfic called “false funeral”

[depressedhatakekakashi]

I realize mistake’s happen but i really need to know who mixed up an E and an A 😭😭😭

Thankfully i care more about the fact they failed to maie my kiddo’s cake gluten free than i do about the fact they misspelled kiddo’s name

[tiny-tyrant-taryn]

An uncle deadnamed an (absent) cousin at Thanksgiving one year at my house. He got hit with a cookie sheet while me, my husband and my siblings all yelled her correct name.

Meanwhile my mom from the living room: "Three of my kids are queer, guess which one just hit you."

(It was me. The agender one who he also constantly deadnames. 🙄)

i really hate coming out but still want my extended family to know, so my mother took it upon herself to invent the game “guess which one of my kids is gay.”

the rules are simple.

sit down with uncle so-and-so

he says something about gay people in passing

my mom says “there’s a gay person at this table right now. guess which of my kids it is!

he looks frantically between the three of us trying to figure out if she’s joking or not and trying desperately not to offend anyone but also she won’t continue with the conversation unless he makes a guess so he has to make a guess

we all enjoy his discomfort immensely

[tiny-tyrant-taryn]

41 <33333

Oh shit.

I didn't actually expect to get one.

Tab 41 is "Her Time to Shine" by WildRiverInTheSky. It's a Sailor Moon fic, and I haven't read it yet!

Summary from author:

Has a strong Serena. Total re-imagining of the breakup arc (very little angst, lots of personal growth), the Black Moon Clan (No ChibiUsa), and Darien's Generals. It starts with Serena deciding to try to get Darien the perfect gift: his Generals back. While she is distracted with that, he is pulling away over constant nightmares of her death. Rated: M language & situations

[maingh0st]

The hate Taryn gets is way too exaggerated and disproportionate. It’s just straight up misogyny at this point, in my opinion. The fandom needs to get over it.

I could literally write a treatise about Taryn-hate at this point lmao. I’m going to share some thoughts (this actually got quite long), but I want to include a big ole disclaimer: at the end of the day, everybody gets to engage in fandom in the ways they want. everyone is free to love or hate whichever characters they want, for the reasons that feel valid and real to them. that being said, the treatment of Taryn specifically is really troubling and bizarre to me. 

I think it’s worth pointing out that when we say Taryn-hate seems misogynistic, that means a lot more than just “people who hate Taryn hate her because she’s a girl.” in my opinion, fandom misogyny toward her often gets couched in broader terms. some examples of what I mean by this are:

(1) Taryn does things that are bad and I don’t like that - uhhhh okay. everybody in these books does shitty things, so let’s think about why specifically the actions of Taryn (a 17-18 year old girl being manipulated by multiple men in her life) fall into the category of unredeemable for you. the reason we might point to this being misogynistic is because it’s a double standard that doesn’t apply to other characters—we’re willing to forgive Cardan his cruelty, or centuries-old Madoc for the trauma he's inflicted and his ongoing need for bloodshed, but Taryn is just a stupid, evil girl for trying to secure her place in Elfhame through the levers of power that are available to her. she can never be forgiven nor redeemed no matter how loyal she is to Jude moving forward. why is that? what sin of hers are so particularly evil to warrant this response? and we have to answer these questions in the context of Elfhame & its moral code, not in the context of our own world.

(2) I could never see myself acting in the way Taryn does and therefore I don’t like her - okay? I can never see myself acting like Madoc, or even like Vivi (don’t get me started on Vivi & the fact that she gets passes Taryn never does), but that doesn’t mean I can’t have empathy for them. I understand that we experience the books through Jude’s perspective, so we’re automatically more prone to rooting for her—and to be clear, I love Jude! but fiction challenges us to experience the world through other perspectives, and it’s my opinion that Taryn acts in a way that is completely consistent and understandable with her experience of Elfhame. “I’m not like you,” she tells Jude. “I want to belong here. Defying them makes everything worse. You never asked me before you went against Prince Cardan—you didn’t care what it brought down on either of our heads.” 

while Jude’s defiance is held up as girlboss behavior (by me, too! I love a “get worse” arc), Taryn’s more traditionally feminine approach to finding her place in Elfhame is reviled (@slightlyrebelliouswriter23 has a great post on the fawn response to trauma & on passivity). more on this point below. 

(3) Taryn isn’t a “girl’s girl” - I am begging fandom to think critically about why Taryn betrays Jude & what that says not just about Elfhame, but about our world. these girls live in a world that affords them little power and agency. we meet them on the cusp of adulthood, and they’re both hyper-aware that they need to secure their place in Elfhame. Jude refers to knighthood as “earning” her place and is uninterested in marriage, but Taryn seems aware that she’s more likely to secure her place through the latter option (and also expresses the fear that Jude is going to leave her behind). it’s an oversimplification, but a useful one for the sake of this conversation, to point out that Jude chooses a more traditionally masculine approach, while Taryn chooses a more traditionally feminine one.

the tragedy is that this world—and particularly the men in their lives—pit them against one another. Locke offers Taryn the thing she wants most, requires a vow of her secrecy, and then begins flirting with Jude (and that's not even to mention him being a gancanagh!). at a point in her story where Madoc and Oriana are the only family who are still around for Taryn, Madoc capitalizes on Taryn’s ignorance (and also her awareness that she's never been the favorite daughter) & uses her to betray Jude. I almost never see these complexities brought up in conversations about Taryn, which is just gross to me, and echoes the ways that patriarchal power structures pit women against each other in the real world. 

I’ve seen people argue that while Jude’s approach is also flawed, she at least doesn’t betray Taryn. and like… kind of? she certainly doesn’t betray Taryn as directly as Taryn betrays her—but some of that just strikes me as dumb luck. consider what might’ve happened if Dain hadn’t died at the end of book one. what lengths might he have asked Jude to go to in order to prove her loyalty to him? or if we rewind even further—it’s honestly just dumb luck that someone didn’t harm or kill Taryn (Valerian, for example, could've chosen the wrong window). Jude’s antagonism of Cardan & his friends had a direct effect on Taryn’s life, and even though Taryn begged her to stop, she bullheadedly charged on. the difference is that Jude’s risky decisions ultimately work out for her, while Taryn has to face the consequences of hers not panning out the way she wanted them to. 

this isn't exhaustive, and there’s so much more I could say, but this is already so long. so in conclusion, the reason all this matters to me personally is twofold: 

at its best, fiction teaches us empathy. part of why I love tfota is because it takes characters & dynamics that are really messy & helps you, the reader, understand where everyone is coming from & why. the fact that we love Madoc is a testament to fiction’s ability to do this. so why is a teenage girl treated like the true villain of this story? what about her makes us incapable of empathy? why, in the mind of the fandom, is she not allowed forgiveness (or even just a chance at redemption) for the harm she's caused, while other characters are? I see people stanning Nicasia, who actively tortured Jude (over a boy, no less!!) ffs

fandom misogyny reflects our world. why are people eager to forgive toxic male love interests, yet hold the bar impossibly high for girls? why is there such a narrow set of choices & behaviors that we consider acceptable for female characters? Holly wrote a story about two young women carving out places for themselves in a world hostile to them, hurting each other in the process, and ultimately deciding to forgive, love, and root for one another—and fandom has taken that complex narrative and pitted them against one another, upholding one as the girlboss who can do no wrong while treating the other as scum. misogyny thrives on women treating each other like the problem, so if this is our attitude toward a fictional story where we’re afforded direct looks into characters’ thoughts, how much worse are we going to be in the real world, faced with real, imperfect women?

anyways, in conclusion: you're entitled to dislike taryn, but if you feel such vitriol toward her that you're literally making hate posts (or commenting under fanart of her!! holy shit), I invite you to interrogate where that hate actually comes from. fin.

[eerna]

Oh my gosh the Mabel hate is ridiculous and I agree with everything you said. It’s funny bc the Pines family allll have healthy egos (even if they do have insecurities as well) and their egos have tunnel visioned and made them selfish at one moment or another and yet Mabel, the only girl too, is the only one who gets excessive hate for it. Also, I think a lot of this stems from the fact that Bill called Mabel selfish and Dipper sacrificing and ppl have this tendency to just take what characters say about themselves and others as Truth. Characters can have wrong ideas and opinions and lie and manipulate. Like c’mon. But I am happy with how much Mabel love and appreciation has come along with the BoB revival, if nothing else. My girl<3

Bro ikr... We have 4 Pines family members, three are guys, one is a girl. I started listing all the selfish choices the guys made throughout the show, but there were so many I had to delete it all so this ask wouldn't be pages long. So why is the most hated character in the fandom a little girl who is not simply selfish, but "way more selfish" than these other people?? Did we watch the same show??? Stan literally chose to save one person knowing it would probably cause the apocalypse, but we are focusing on Mabel stealing the Journal that one time??? And YEAHHH that's my theory too, they took what Bill said literally and forgot the context!!! A demon was trying to convince Mabel to betray Dipper by convincing her she is a bad person anyway and should follow her selfish instincts, but she was like "NUH UH" and kicked his ass because that's the entire point. I love how the fandom is in a renaissance 8 years after the show ended and people have grown up and feminism was introduced into public consciousness <3<3<3 My girl is getting her justice <3<3<3