#taobao reference

[ziseviolet]

Secondly, I have heard that as traditional fashion gets more and more popular, there is an increasing amount of fake/knockoff clothes sold online, is there a way to distinguish between them, so we can buy hanfu from official brands and support the designers and dressmakers for their hard work.

Hi, thanks for the question, and sorry for taking ages to reply!

Yes, that's correct -- knockoffs (known as 山寨/shanzhai in Chinese) have long been, and still are, a huge problem for hanfu vendors. It's often difficult and confusing to tell the difference between original hanfu and shanzhai hanfu.

I highly encourage everyone to do some research before buying hanfu to make sure that your purchase goes towards supporting the original brand/designer, as opposed to a counterfeiter. Without that financial support, it's very likely for original brands and designers to close shop, especially in the extremely competitive hanfu market.

Based on personal observation, below are some red flags that may signify that a hanfu shop or item is a knockoff - or at least not from the original brand/designer. Note that these refer mainly to Taobao shops because Taobao is the platform I'm most familiar with:

Examine the merchandise. Shops that offer an assortment of non-hanfu related products (e.g. mainstream contemporary fashion, household items) in addition to hanfu, are usually not original hanfu brands. Authentic hanfu brands typically only sell hanfu and related items such as modified hanfu & hanyuansu, hanfu accessories, and occasionally other types of Chinese clothing (e.g. qipao/cheongsam, Qing dynasty-style clothing).

Examine the photos. If a shanzhai shop doesn't outright steal product photos from the original brand, it may retake photos of the clothes using different models. These models and photos are usually very generic and low-effort. Original hanfu brands typically put more creativity and effort into styling models and designing photoshoots for promotional photos.

Examine the prices. If a hanfu's price seems too good to be true, it usually is. It's likely to be a knockoff - or at least of lower quality than expected. This isn't always the case, as some original hanfu are hugely discounted, and some knockoffs inflate their prices. However, you get what you pay for, and I'd avoid super cheap hanfu if you want to ensure authenticity.

More tips from @bamboocounting: "you can check the storefront to see if the store has been running for a time that matches when it’s founded, for older famous stores, and check the number of reviews for some more popular items (like Shisanyu regularly has hundreds of reviews for some sets)."

In addition, @fouryearsofshades mentioned here that there's an official account on WeChat called 汉服安莉 that can be used to check if a shop is authentic. My dms are also open if you need assistance with checking whether something is authentic - I'll do what I can to help ^^

If anyone has additional advice, please share!

Hope this helps!

(Hanfu photo via)

[angstandhappiness]

NICE

top 5 hanfu outfits hanyi 💓 - xiaosean

*SCREAMING* I jumped straight into Taobao to grab pictures for this ask I AM SO EXCITED TO REPLY IT

disclaimer: oncoming picture spam which I just couldn’t bear to hide beneath a cut

not really a specific look, but more in terms of my top 5 (listed “chronologically”) favourite hanfu styles

1. 圆领袍 (yuan2 ling3 pao2)

Literally means “round-collared robe”

Originally for men

But became popular among women in the Tang dynasty

Some people also wear the collar unbuttoned so it ends up looking like this double lapel thing which is still damned cool

Sources:

如梦霓裳

寻景记汉服

织羽集

流烟昔泠

2. 飞鱼服 (fei1 yu2 fu2)

Literally means “flying fish clothing”

Type of clothing given from the emperor to eunuchs/ guards (e.g. the Embroidered Uniform Guard) during the Ming dynasty

帅气 x100000 although I’ll never be able to pull this cool look off

Sources: 

如梦霓裳 [1] [2] [3]

3. 道袍 (dao4 pao2), bonus if it’s paired with a 披风 (pi1 feng1)

Literally means “Taoist robe” but was not restricted to only Taoists

Common full-length single robe that was worn by men in the Ming dynasty 

Sometimes with a ma mian qun (will talk about this later) underneath it!

LOOK AT THAT PI FENG AHHH 仙 x100000

4. 马面裙 (ma3 mian4 qun2)

I LOVE THESE OMG

Literally means “horse face skirt”

Common pleated skirt worn in the Ming dynasty

Can be traditionally worn as part of the 袄裙 (ao3 qun2), which consists of the skirt and a top worn over the skirt

But I reaaaally love the ma mian qun because it’s so damn versatile and can be paired with modern classy looks like this

(I’m getting this top and skirt on 11.11 hoho)

An even more modern look like this (I have this particular skirt hoho)

AND EVEN MODERN BADASS LIKE THIS (also getting this skirt during 11.11 hoho)

Sources:

如梦霓裳

七巧坊

拟梦汉服

华裳九州

池夏

5. 交领襦裙 (jiao1 ling3 ru2 qun2), bonus if it’s paired with a 大袖衫 (da4 xiu4 shan1) or 褙子 (bei4 zi3)

Okay I’m a bit hazy on when this started becoming popular/ commonly worn so I’ve put it right at the end instead of fitting it “chronologically” like the rest above

Some styles are from the Wei-Jin period, some are from the Song dynasty, and a lot of styles on Taobao these days don’t really stick to particular period of what a jiao ling ru qun looks like

Literally means “cross-collared short coat and skirt”, as opposed to the 齐胸襦裙 (qi2 xiong1 ru2 qun2) which is something like what jiang yanli in donghua wears 

I prefer the cross-collared styles more hehe

Tho speaking of cross-collared styles, my major pet peeve is when people accidentally draw the collars crossed the wrong way (right over left instead of left over right)… because that’s usually meant for the deceased

Sources:

如梦霓裳 [1] [2]

出社

重回汉唐 [1] [2]

okay end of spam I think I might have gone a little over on this whoooopss (〃ー〃)

answering “top 5″s!! ✩°｡⋆⸜(ू｡•ω•｡) (altho I admit to being terrible with fanfics so please avoid those *nervous cough*)

[accio-victuuri]

why jeanswest is kinda competing with bottled joy as a cpf favorite…

disclaimer before we start — i think these are mostly coincidence. i’m sure brands know the target market and are aware of cpfs but whether they try and appeal to us by bringing out specific products is something no one can confirm. so let’s start with the brand itself, which is mainly owned by a hongkong based company and this is why it has this kind of presence in China. i don’t see any of their captions or marketing on weibo being seen as targeted to cpfs. the examples people are pointing out so far are actual products you can see on their official taobao store.

this started with their 10:05 kadian and allegations of feeding cp because of their little prince and tennis designs which I talked about here.

&& then most recently, fans noticed that they have a couple hoodie ( photo on the left ) with the word (我们) as in We/Us — which is very applicable right now since it’s related to XZ’s album. and the design even has that element of sunrise, you want to watch the sunrise? tho xzwyb are more of sunsets. lol.

tho i have to say the brand has a selection of similar couple themed wear. and tbh, the we/us is being used here in the romantic sense cause there’s quite a number of c-ent couples who used this in their caption when officially announcing their relationship on weibo. so JW is most likely referring to that rather than a nod to XZ. we have to realize that he doesn’t own that word. 😂😂😂😂

but i understand why this is 👀 to cpf because of other cp-esque friendly (allegedly) designs from the past.. and it’s a lot….

these ones don’t need much explanation cause for a cpf, you can see it. the shirt with lion + rabbit. the red rabbit shirt. turtle. 95. guangdian colors and with a romantic print/words. x and w with 9 and 5. etc.

now i bring more examples that are also gonna alert cpfs! and this is why i say that these are most likely coincidences. that we, as cpfs, will gravitate towards designs and symbols that speak to us. we do this with other brands and i think that JW just happened to have a lot of these designs that appeal to us. or maybe their designer is a CPF lol.

( paper plane and bunny, 23 which is love zhan in red and green, mountain/camping and the heart gesture they did while filming )

another one is JW and MIIOW which are two separate companies and brands with what looks like identical products. this is kinda problematic tho on their end, so i don’t see this as cpn.

AND EVERYONE’S FAVE IS THIS. The Z shirt, in a writing that is the same XZ’s art signature.

so there you go 🫶🏼

it’s pretty interesting and i’m happy for cpfs who managed to get clothes that represent the fandom even if it was unintentional ( or is it??? ).

i have to add this last part tho cause i see people sharing this screenshot of a livestream where JW is selling clothes with the a similar WM design as in XZ’s work. Some are eating this as candy but the truth is THIS IS FAKE. I placed a red arrow on the actual product being shown, that’s where you will find it on lives like this when someone buys. So the WM was photoshopped.

this is scary. cause there are people out there deliberately doing this for god knows what. this is why we have to be careful of cpns and what is being shared. it’s so easy to see this and go omg they are so brave! or did wyb give a go signal to do this style??? etc when in fact this has a more sinister implication. that artwork is most likely licensed to xz and his studio and infringing on that has legal consequences. so this may be anti fuel, that a brand wyb endorses is plagiarizing xz’s work. so yeah. not all candies are sweet. we always have to pause and remember that our priority is to protect their (xz and wyb) best interest. 💛

[bunnyscribblesbjd]

lemon's hair and clothes came in today! he definitely needs a haircut + some hair styling but aaaaaaa :))

(some rambling below the cut)

it took eight million years to get everything from this taobao order correct + shipped to my house bc of some issues with bhiner but it was def worth the wait :) the overalls are from little dream girl on taobao (though i think i found their normal website when i googled the name but i can't tell if it's legit :v ) and they're so cool! the color and drape are perfect <3

all of the shoes that i ordered are like. massive. which was surprising to me since when i've ordered shoes from some of the same shops on taobao they've been too small? fortunately jaellis has giant feet so she can wear them lol.

he turned out a little bit more boyish/sweet than i had intended for his character but he's so cute that i kind of want to keep him this way haha- taking off the little sprout clip and astronaut pin would probably make him less cutesy but i feel compelled to somehow have visual references to his origin (beloved cringe among us oc).

[bedazzlecunt]

hello! may i ask where you get such cute clothes/how you put outfits together? <3

hihi!!!

about 50% of my closet is thrifted/secondhand — i'm blessed to live in a major city, so i've got lots of thrift stores and vintage stores and clothing exchange stores nearby, which is helpful. i also use websites like poshmark/depop/etc. a lot. my wardrobe has a lot of non-bimbo-y clothes in it (my outfit today is positively little house on the prairie, and there's also a lot of nonsexual kawaii stuff, some punkier stuff...); if i was just referring to the pieces that fall into the bimbocore vibe i usually wear on here, the thrifted percentage probably jumps to 75%.

and of the clothes i am buying firsthand, most of that isn't particularly bimbo-y. i don't shop firsthand fast fashion for ethical reasons, which is unfortunately where a lot of that stuff lives now. etsy can be a great place to find basics like crop tops and tube tops, and it has sooo much cute lingerie. you can totes just search "bimbocore" there too, which is fine. a lot of my stuff is from taobao shops like kelly kitty, crazy girl, diamond honey/diamond sweetheart, and hard candy/yingtang.

as for how i put my fits together, that's pretty vibes based a lot of the time in a way that makes it feel hard to describe. a lot of it, especially at the beginning, was trying to recreate fits i liked — a pastel crop top and a miniskirt are fairly easy to find and purchase once i decide that fit is cute, and if you're looking to expand your wardrobe that's a good place to start. i think, particularly if u want to be read as a bimbo at a glance, one thing to keep in mind is that it's sort of socially acceptable to be showing off one part of your body that's "sexualized" (ie cleavage/underboob/midriff/ass/thighs/etc) — like, for the most part, if someone's showing a lot of cleave, they're probably now showing off a whole ton else. so an easy way to make even a more "normie" outfit look slutty is to show off two or more. lots of cleavage AND a miniskirt? a miniskirt AND your midriff is showing? underboob AND ass? etc. when i really wanna be read as a slut, i try to show off at least 2 parts of my body that are read as slutty, 3 if i can. i find that that always makes for a cute slutty fit almost regardless of what i'm wearing.

[fouryearsofshades]

Hello! I'm from a West European country and have been interested in learning about Chinese culture for the past few months, specially it's religions and traditional clothing, since I started reading different lgbt Chinese novels and series,like Word of honor and Tgcf, and listening to YouTubers like Xiran Jay Zhao.

I find it fascinating the difference of styles between dynasties and places, and the way it differs or reminds me of my culture. The revival that traditional clothing has had in this last few years has also deeply interested me. But there's something I'm kind of confused about.

I know that hanfu refers to traditional han clothing, and that the hanfu revival occurring is about that, but has this also affected in any shape or form the traditional clothing of other Chinese ethnic groups? By that I mean if they have also gained popularity in Chinese society or could even be included in this hanfu revival movement. What about their traditions?

And to all this, are there any works about them that could be read by English or Spanish speakers? I know there are so many different ethnic groups in the country to just be treated as one lump, but even if they talk about a specific one it would be nice to read about them.

Sorry if you have been asked/already talked about this in another post, I have tried to look around but didn't see anything (maybe I'm just blind lmao). Also sorry again for my rambling, I don't know if I'm supposed to ask though here or how to do so exactly, I've only actively used Tumblr since the end of the Summer and I'm still kind of unused to all this.

Hope you're having a nice day/night! 🥰

Hi.

I know that hanfu refers to traditional han clothing, and that the hanfu revival occurring is about that, but has this also affected in any shape or form the traditional clothing of other Chinese ethnic groups? By that I mean if they have also gained popularity in Chinese society or could even be included in this hanfu revival movement. What about their traditions?

One of the reasons that inspired the hanfu revival movement back then was a picture of a Han Chinese wearing a white t-shirt among all other ethnic groups in their colourful ethnic clothing. So no, other Chinese ethnic groups aren't included in the hanfu revival movement because they weren't prosecuted under the Tifayifu ('shaving hair and changing costume') policy, so there isn't really a need to revival because they have always been able to dress in their ethnic garments.

However, the garments of all ethnic groups are threatened by mass-produced costume-type things. Properly crafted traditional wears are often expensive on Taobao, so if they have moved away to the cities it is very difficult to get authentic garments in more reasonable price unless they travelled back to their home town. In addition, homogenization occurs because of commercialization, such as the Josean wear is heavily influence by Korean Hanbok because Hanbok is more readily available.

And to all this, are there any works about them that could be read by English or Spanish speakers? I know there are so many different ethnic groups in the country to just be treated as one lump, but even if they talk about a specific one it would be nice to read about them.

I am sorry I am not familiar with English or Spanish works... I am not even good at finding resources in Chinese. Perhaps you could check out @beehunni62 and @audreydoeskaren. @rongzhi also posted a lot of douyins of different ethnic groups under #少数民族. Not sure if @ziseviolet knows more about this.

Sorry if you have been asked/already talked about this in another post, I have tried to look around but didn't see anything (maybe I'm just blind lmao). Also sorry again for my rambling, I don't know if I'm supposed to ask though here or how to do so exactly, I've only actively used Tumblr since the end of the Summer and I'm still kind of unused to all this.

No I don't think I have been asked about this. I think I have one short reply on Dai people and that's about it.

All the best!

[meraki-yao]

RWRB Bullet Comments Part 1: Red Room Scene

In light of the discourse yesterday I wanted to spread a bit of happiness and fun so I finally got around doing this! (Read this post for preface)

These are from the Red Room Scene, and there are two videos of the movie on bilibili so I took the fun bullet comments from both of them

A couple of photos to demonstrate how the screen looks like, but I'm not gonna circle them individual like last time because they overlap and scroll by and it's took much effort to capture a clear screenshot individually

Arranged in chronological order! All idiomatic translations are done by me :D

800 poses a second

The room where it happens (Hamilton the musical reference)

History has its eyes on you (Hamilton the musical reference)

Hamilton's watching you at the back

I'm turning into a rubber chicken!!!! (those screeching rubber toys)

Welcome to a new episode of FSOTUS: Taobao model version (Taobao, the most popular online shopping platform in China, Taobao models are known for switching poses very quickly for the most amount of photos to choose from, e.x. 100 different poses under a minute)

Attention/ At Ease hahahahahaha

He's (Alex switching poses) kinda acting like Ross from Friends right now

A peacock in full bloom

Happy Berner Sennenhund and Noble golden kitty

I think this room is full of presidential portraits...

Hamilton: Seriously?

Hamilton: You got me helpless

Oh my God the little prince is so pretty here

Why can't I stop laughing

Awww the prince is shy that's so cute

I wanna see the prince without hair gel! I think he would even better like that

I’m screeching like a chicken

warning warning waRNING WARNING WARNING

The fuck it's this explosive?

*a whole lot of feral screaming

Is it illegal to lock them in the room in the states

Help, my cheekbone can't come down

Wow his hands are...really grabbing his hair there

Puppy really likes biting on the little prince's lips

Oh my God I can't stop fidgeting

"Shut up and kiss me"

"Little prince, do you like my kiss"

I realized that the little prince really likes grabbing the first son's hair

Puppy (Alex)'s big hands and the little prince's smol hands

These sounds, I freaking can't—

Lock the fucking door~~

Oh hohohohohoho I'm laughing so hard I'm running out of oxygen

Watching this for the one hundred millionth time (one hundred millionth 億 and one 一 are both pronounced yi but with different tones, it's a pun)

Amy: THIS ISN'T WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA DO

Why didn't anybody warn me that she was gonna open the door?

Of course, when in moments of awkwardness, everyone will pretend they're busy

Alex: Wow this flower is really flowery

Henry: Wow these books are very bookish/ this bookshelf Is such a bookshelf

I'm going insane hahahahaha the way you two try to pretend nothing happened is ridiculous

Lemme know which one's your favourite and which scene you guys want me to do next!

Slightly shamelessly tagging a couple of folks who showed interest in my last post on bullet comments, hope yall don't mind:

@tal-vez-o-quizas @lfg1986-2 @fivequartersoftheorange @hgejfmw-hgejhsf @estr19 @nocoastposts @kordeliafawkes @scillian @xthelastknownsurvivorx @fastenyourseatbelts @bbreaddog @myironcollectorflower

[mammutblog]

Hiya! What do you use for ur clothes references? They’re always so nice and well-detailed

thank you! for the styling i usually go on xiaohongshu or taobao to search for inspo, and for the actual reference i try to use photos or take them myself if i can figure a fold or a wrinkle out!

with dc character outfits i look at a lot of comic art for reference too, especially for shading~

[g-oblincat]

It really bothers me how people on English speaking internet anonymize and therefore slightly dehumanize Chinese people on the net.

I'm reading an indie game retrospective about the success of their game who named the western streamers who streamed their game early on, but referred to a Chinese one as, I quote, "some Chinese streamer on bilibili" despite the fact that this streamer got them a publisher deal that was a key part of their success story.

I don't think it's just a matter of not naming someone you assume your audience won't know or wanting to avoid mentioning a foreign name (which is ... Still weird...). In lolita circles, people often namedrop brands regardless of if they're western or Japanese, and also regardless of if they're indie or brand. However, I almost never see a Chinese brand named- everyone is always referred to as a "Taobao brand". (Rainedragon has a great post on this from 2018, so I guess this is not a new problem). I definitely notice when creators shoutout western indies who use Chinese manufacturing, but won't name pieces by Chinese designers*. It's giving not seeing Chinese people and designers as members of your hobby community, but some unknown black-box monolith that content just materializes from that you can take from thoughtlessly.

Lastly, I think anyone pulling out the "but the Chinese govt is bad!" Excuse for being rude to random indie clothing designers and game streamers is being intentionally ignorant. How have US people gone thru the trump administration and assume everyone in a country agrees with their leaders. Also if you're truly so horrified by the entire country of China that you don't even want to name them, you can stop taking publishing deals from them and buying cheap blouses and shoes for your wardrobe from them. But you won't.

* Not disparaging western indies brands or using Chinese manufacturing- let's not pretend Chinese manufacturing is unilaterally unethical, or unethical labor practices don't happen in the US.

[vampstel]

Simple ask but how do you find inspiration for your characters outfits?I struggle a lot in terms of outfit choice / character design.

Finding inspiration is super easy to me but extremely hard to give advice or talk about so I’m sorry if this is super vague and unhelpful,, ૮꒰◞ ˕ ◟ ྀི꒱ა

The only thing I do really is just browse the internet. It’s not that special of a method 😭 My go-to places for inspiration are always Instagram and Pinterest though!! From outfits, to places, and to almost anything, you can find a ton of things on these apps if you search things up frequently. Most of the references I use are from Pinterest and I like to reverse image search them to see where the sources are from which gives me even more places to find inspiration :3

Dress-up games also seem to help me a ton. Not just Royale High but mobile apps like Everskies, Love Nikki, Monster Girl Maker, and more. I’d say the easiest method to get inspiration for clothes, however, is to find shops that sell clothes from a variety of brands.

So websites like Devil Inspired, TaoBao, etc. Even small businesses have a lot to offer. It all depends on what style you’re going for your character and while Pinterest is helpful for lots of things, Instagram will be your best bet to find clothing shops since their source is directly on the app unlike Pinterest.

I hope this made sense ue ue ue,,, Also: always remember to save whatever you find interesting to your photo gallery or your Pinterest! That helps so much and will ensure you won’t forget inspirations you might want to use in the future ^^

[radfae]

do you think it's problematic that dolls look like babies yet have intense amount of makeup on their faces? i only saw one natural doll on taobao without any makeup and she looked way sweet.

what dolls are you referring to? i only really look at fashion dolls and those are all portrayed as teens + adults. i think it depends

[ziseviolet]

Hi! Do you know if are there any hanfu clothing stores outside of mainland China (ex: Taiwan)?

Hi, thanks for the question, and sorry for taking ages to reply!

I have a rec list of non-Taobao online hanfu stores here, most of which are based outside of mainland China.

In addition, my Q&A Masterpost has a “Buying Hanfu & Hanfu Accessories” section that contains replies to previously asked questions on where to buy hanfu outside of mainland China, including in: Hong Kong, Singapore, and the U.S.

The above-mentioned stores are pretty much all online, though. If you’re looking for physical (in-person) stores, I don’t have as much information.  

For Taiwan specifically, Tumblr user @miich mentioned here that they offer a hanfu rental service in Taiwan. Do any followers know of physical hanfu stores in Taiwan and other places outside of mainland China? If so, please share and I can compile a list in this post.

Hope this helps!

(Hanfu photo via)

[badnikbreaker]

references for badnikbreakerTM amy! some additional design notes below the cut!

compared to canon amy, my amy's quills are on the paler side; she's pastel! her quills are also softer / fluffier than they tend to be in canon ( though, admittedly, some of that also comes down to my own stylization )

has dark circles! they're not as bad as they were during the war or while she ran the restoration, though; that's something.

amy is decked with scars; most are fairly small. it's just the nature of close - quarters battle of the sort she favors! the nastiest one is the one on her left hand pictured above; a badnik she was battling in the war had something not unliked a bladed - wire whip, which got caught around her wrist and hand and tossed her around a little before amy managed to wrench herself free. the scar is fully healed but sometimes still tender, and amy occasionally presses on it when exhausted / dissociating / etc. with the hope that the pain will wake her back up.

while my icons all have ames in her canon fit, as that's what i have to work with when iconing official works, my amy loves fashion and is often wearing cute little fits! big fan of reds, pinks, and greens! she loves shopping little indie brands; lives on the sonic equivalent of taobao

my amy has never gone super ( yet!! ) but — she'll be so cute when she does! her quills turn a very light, nearly white glowing - pink and upturn a bit. whatever outfit she's wearing will also gain some additional flourishes, such as more ruffles; here, she also gains a little eyeshadow and extra lipstick. the watsonian explanation is that the chaos emeralds enrich the heart's power and grant the heart's desires; amy's desire is to be strong, and when she pictures strength ( and isn't picturing sonic ) she pictures magical girls, hence the emeralds giving her some magical girl extras. the doylist explanation is that i think amy deserves it. i couldn't decide if i liked the yellow dress ( to bring in more of the gold found in other super forms ) or the classic red ( but pinkler and brighter, here! ) look better, so you get both.

bonus super amy eyes, since shrinking my canvas killed some details!

[zhongwans]

Some extra context on QV's new expose

Back in May 2021 right after the WOH concert, a fan claimed that she saw ZZH in Shanghai buying boba. In the photos, "ZZH" was wearing the same clothes he was wearing during the concert afterparty.

P1: the "ZZH" spotted in Shanghai

P2: the actual ZZH a few days before

At the time people thought it was weird because why would ZZH still be wearing the exact same outfit days after he wore them? It felt very unnatural and forced, like this "ZZH" was trying very hard to make sure people knew it was him. Plus, this was right after the WOH concert when he was at the height of his popularity and couldn't even go out to play golf without people surrounding him and following him. So what was he doing traipsing around in Shanghai in the middle of the day, in an outfit that any fan would recognize, and looking like he was being completely ignored? When at that time even the less popular WOH cast members couldn't walk around freely without being approached by fans.

A lot of the analysis about this incident was wiped when the fandom went underground after 813, but it was generally agreed on that "Shanghai ZZH" was a fake. But the one thing people couldn't decide was how this fake ZZH knew exactly what clothes ZZH was going to wear during after the concert so he could prepare the exact same outfit beforehand. If QV's info is accurate that ZZH's studio and staff were involved in creating this fake ZZH, then I guess we might finally have an answer to this old mystery.

One of the main theories at the time was that the people behind the fake hurriedly ordered the same clothes during the afterparty so the fake could wear them later. But the problem was that at least one of those clothes (notably the Lanvin sweatshirt) was still not being sold. So people theorized that it was a dupe (from maybe a taobao shop or whatever) and there were plenty of analysis comparing the lobster print on ZZH's sweatshirt versus the fake's, to try and spot any differences in quality.

The possible involvement of ZZH's studio suggests a much more realistic possibility: that when he took off the sponsored clothes and gave them to his staff for them to handle, they had the fake ZZH wear it and walk around in Shanghai for the staged "sighting" before returning them to the brands.

The "fan" QV is referring to in her expose is the fan who claimed she saw him in Shanghai and provided the pics. Apparently she was contacted by his studio staff and given the photos of "Shanghai ZZH" and was paid to post those and pretend she saw him there herself. I don't know how much of this is true (guess we'll have to wait) but if it is true then it answers a lot of questions we all had about that staged Shanghai sighting incident. Both ZZH and GJ were subjected to a lot of hate throughout the airing of WOH, but this fake ZZH in Shanghai was the first real sign that something was very wrong behind the scenes, and that certain parties were putting in a lot of effort and money into manipulating the fandom. At the time I didn't think it was that serious, but I guess people were right to be worried because look where we are now.

As for the purpose of the fake sighting, the main theory back then that this was meant to set up a future smear.

[bizarrequazar]

GJ and ZZH Updates — September 03-09

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This is part of a weekly series collecting updates from and relating to Gong Jun and Zhang Zhehan.

This post is not wholly comprehensive and is intended as an overview, links provided lead to further details. Dates are in accordance with China Standard Time, the organization is chronological. My own biases on some things are reflected here. Anything I include that is not concretely known is indicated as such, and you’re welcome to do your own research and draw your own conclusions as you see fit. Please let me know if you have any questions, comments, concerns, or additions. :)

[Glossary of names and terms] [Masterlist of my posts about the situation with Zhang Zhehan]

09-03 → 361° posted five photos from a fansite of Gong Jun at an airport, highlighting their clothes.

09-04 → The watch brand Tissot posted a video teasing their endorsement with Gong Jun that would be announced two days later. Caption: "Neon lights in the dark night, super players enter the venue and wait for the excitement, wait and see[.] The new Tissot global brand spokesperson will be announced soon! He is a young actor with unlimited possibilities, an occasional soul singer, and a constant happy player. Who is he? See you on September 6th!"

→ The Instagram posted ten photos of "Zhang Zhehan" at a glacier.

→ A teaser for yet another song (this one with very uncharacteristically sexual lyrics) was posted by Ranyi.

09-05 → The Instagram posted nine photos of "Zhang Zhehan" doing a rockabilly-style photoshoot. #ZhangZhehan trended on Twitter.

→ The lyricist for the Zhang Sanjian song made a tweet promoting it. He used the #TheRealZhangZhehan hashtag, indicating that he was likely fed what to tweet considering people outside the fandom wouldn't know to use that. His social media history indicates that he previously had some decent success, but hit a rough patch last year that he's currently trying to recover from.

09-06 → 361° posted a photo ad of Gong Jun in collaboration with the Asian Games.

→ Gong Jun posted a commercial he did for Tissot, announcing his new endorsement with them. (1129 kadian) Caption: "With love, always have fun[.] I am very happy to become the global brand ambassador of Tissot[.] Put on #Tissot super player series with me# Right now, you and I are super player" This was reposted by Tissot. Fan Observation: Some Dilireba fans apparently think that the 88888888 written with his signature in the commercial is a reference to her. If any of those fans are reading this, I'm sorry to burst your bubble but 8 is just his favourite number.

→ Tissot posted the same commercial. (1129 kadian) Caption: "Super players, you've been waiting a long time[.] Welcome actor @ Gong Jun Simon in becoming the global brand ambassador of Tissot! Every moment, explore endless possibilities[,] have fun and unlock more excitement. Super player attitude, defined by you"

→ The limited edition watch released for the endorsement announcement sold out in five minutes, and the other endorsed models sold out at all physical stores in Chengdu. CPFs were enough of a majority in the sales to receive a shoutout online from one of the sales associates, and there was some drama on Weibo of solos trying to report down CPFs' posts about their purchases.

→ #GongJun trended on Twitter.

→ Gong Jun posted three photos of himself from his shoot with Tissot to his Instagram. Caption: "Cool!" (originally in English)

→ Gong Jun Outdoor Office posted two doodles Gong Jun did for the Tissot announcement. Caption: "Ah! Art! (The art has two wheels and the single door!)"

→ Tissot posted a photo ad featuring Gong Jun. Several more were also released on their website and Taobao. Fan Observations: - Tissot mentioned Word of Honor in the blurb about Gong Jun on their website! [screenshot] - Several of the photo ads includes Gong Jun sitting at a diner booth with "5" in neon. Combining this with the neon "November 29" used elsewhere in the ad campaign makes an easy 51129 kadian.

→ The Instagram posted ten photos of "Zhang Zhehan" in a forest.

→ Hogan tweeted a photo ad of Gong Jun.

09-07 → Zhenguoli posted a photo ad featuring Gong Jun.

→ Tissot posted a video (flashing lights cw) of behind the scenes footage from their photoshoot with Gong Jun. (1129 kadian)

→ Gong Jun's studio posted a video of behind the scenes footage from the Tissot commercial. Caption: "Explore the secrets of time and seal the eternal hour. Let's keep the beauty in the minutes with @ Gong Jun Simon~" BGM is Tama by Else.

→ Hogan tweeted a commercial and two photo ads of Gong Jun.

→ The Instagram posted ten photos of "Zhang Zhehan" and scenery.

→ Gong Jun attended another Jay Chou concert (purely as an audience member this time.)

09-08 → MYFM, a Malaysian radio station, announced that they had invited Zhang Zhehan to a music festival they are organizing around the topic of AI. (Ironic.) At the time of this post nothing has been said about "him" (read: the scam gang) agreeing to attend. [article] The radio station is the same one that put one of the Zhang Sanjian songs as #1 on their charts when it hadn't been released yet back in January.

→ #ZhangZhehan trended on Twitter.

→ Zhenguoli posted five photo ads of Gong Jun. They later posted another.

→ BEAST posted a commercial with a voice over done by Gong Jun. (1129 kadian)

→ Tissot posted four photos from their shoot with Gong Jun. (1129 kadian)

→ The Instagram posted more of the same.

→ Hogan tweeted two photo ads of Gong Jun.

09-09 → Tissot posted one of their photo ads of Gong Jun to their Instagram.

→ Gong Jun's studio posted a vlog of him at the Jay Chou concert. Caption: "Excited heart, trembling hands! The immersive concert experience is here~ @ Gong Jun Simon (no delay version) is a fan who works hard to sing along"

→ Zhenguoli posted a photo ad featuring Gong Jun.

→ 361° released a commercial for the Asian Games featuring Gong Jun.

→ The Instagram posted five photos of "Zhang Zhehan" in a field.

→ Hogan tweeted two photo ads of Gong Jun.

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