#tagging buddie because this is relevant to their development in season 8

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They got an ask about Buck/Eddie being written like Hen/Chimney. Because of course 🙄

A. Good evening anon, my week has been pretty decent, thank you. I hope yours was as well. Buck/Eddie are not written or played remotely similarly to Hen/Chimney. Their dynamics are purposely different. I don't know if you belong to the group of viewers whose knowledge of the show only consists of 6 episodes from season 7, but based on your ask, I'm going to assume that you are. But even if your knowledge is relegated to season 7 exclusively you should still be able to see the difference. Hen and Chimney are your textbook besties for life. They support each other. They cry with and cheer for one another. And sometimes even share one braincell. But they have always been shown to have lives separate from one another and their friendship (that's part of the show history you're deliberately avoiding). I believe Chimney has had one scene with Denny (Hen and Karen's son) throughout the entirety of the show's run. Buck and Christopher's relationship is its own unit within the show. They have episodes and arcs devoted to the two of them (that pesky show history again, sorry). Buck is not written as his sudo uncle. He's not written as his dad's best friend who occasionally babysits. He is a coparent. Eddie and Buck had one episode, Eddie's first episode, and it wasn't even the full episode, where they weren't written as immediately living in the pocket of each other. The show made a point of developing Hen and Chimney outside of their friendship. The show has deliberately chosen not to do that with Buck and Eddie. It's a season after season writing choice. It's why Kenny, Aisha, and Tim can all easily use the word friendship to describe Hen/Chimney. It's also why Oliver, Ryan and Tim cannot use the word friendship to describe Buck and Eddie. It's why in interview after interview they all struggle to describe it. The word friendship does not feel right or remotely strong enough to describe their relationship. And they all know it (again, it's that lousy show history).

It's okay to say you don't want Eddie to be canonically queer because you know what that means for Tommy. That's okay. You're allowed to hate it solely for what it means to that character. We all hate something that is canon. I hate several canon things. I won't tell you all of them, but I will share one that seems minor to a lot of people, but fills me with rage. When the show had Buck tell Eddie that he thinks Natalia 'sees' him I wanted to burn the studio to the ground. Evan Buckley looked Eddie Diaz in the face and actually said out loud that someone he just met is the person who makes him feel seen (even typing the words out made my face hot). Eddie Diaz who knows Evan Buckley better than anyone else in the world had to listen to those words be said about someone else. I hate it. I hate it so much that any time anyone mentions that scene around me all my friends groan because they know I'm about to go on a rant. I don't pretend I hate it for any other reason except it made me upset on Eddie's behalf. That's it. To me it felt wrong, wildly out of place, especially considering Buck had known her all of 5 minutes, and I thought it was stupid. That's it. I don't try to convince everyone that my feelings towards that scene are about some greater morality point. I hate it because I hate it. And that's all that matters. I don't know who told you all that you're not allowed to not want Eddie to be canonically queer because you know they'll put him with Buck. That's the reason you don't want it. Say it. You can. No one will judge you for you saying that. People are judging you because you're pretending it's all this other greater good for television bullshit. It's not. It's not because television needs a straight/queer bestie combo, those are everywhere, including 911, hello Hen and Chimney. It's not because television needs a straight man who's not afraid of his emotions. It's not because putting them in a relationship would ruin one of the best platonic relationships on television. It's none of those things. It's because he would be with Buck. Period. Just own it. It's fine.

The only problem with admitting it means you're also admitting that once his arc with Buck is complete there is no purpose for Tommy. That's why you don't want to admit it. You guys have spent the entire hiatus letting people convince you that he's becoming an integral part of the show. That he's going to have storylines and episodes devoted to him and his past. He's not. Even if they keep him around as a boyfriend for a bit he will still just exist on the fringes of the show. He will never be important as a stand alone character. The show has given zero indication that he is anything more than a plot point. They just haven't. And maybe you all are correct, and Tim has spent the downtime thinking of ways to make him more permanent. But that is very unlikely. Everything we've seen so far, including the decision to release that deleted clip, seems to indicate he has a very particular story purpose, and once they've told that particular part of the story, his services will no longer be required. You can hate it. You have absolutely every right to hate it. It doesn't matter if I, or anyone else, ever understands why you hate it. You can hate it. But it won't make it less true. It will just be part of the canon that you hate. And that's okay.

Okay, I wouldn't know what to add to this to be honest. Every single thing that has been on my mind for some time now is right there, in the answer above. The only difference is that the OP managed to summarise all of it in a few paragraphs. It would probably have taken me hours and pages of text to say what they just said in their answer.

I just want to add on thing. It's true, we all have canon parts of the show that we hate. Mine is the lawsuit arc. I can't watch it anymore. I can't even read fics that deal with the lawsuit. That is how much I hate it. I hated how they made Buck sue the Fire Department and how they made him tell that lawyer all about his friends' private lives. I absolutely detest it, because it made me dislike Buck during that time. And I've always loved Buck, even season 1 Buck. I eventually got over it and forgave Buck around the same time Eddie did. I will always hate that arc, but I also realise that it happened and that it will forever be a part of Buck's character arc.

This will be part of the canon that I hate. And that's okay. It won't make me love the show any less, but it will always be there.

What are the canon parts of the show that you hate(d)?

Remember, no hate in comments or reblogs. Let's keep it civil and respectful. Thank you.

If you are interested in more of the anonymous OP’s posts, you can find all of their posts so far under the tag: anonymous blog I love.

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Cheers: 10 Quotes From Cliff That Are Still Hilarious Today – Screen Rant

Cheers may have been off the air for twenty-six years now, but it’s just as relevant today as it was in the 80s and early ‘90s, and no one is more hilariously relatable than Clifford C. Clavin, Jr., or Cliff, everyone’s favorite postal worker and obnoxious know-it-all barfly.

The funny thing is, Cliff wasn’t even in the original pilot for Cheers, but actor John Ratzenberger’s audition was so good that the producers on the show actually worked with him to create the character of Cliff. Thank goodness they did, too, because, otherwise, there wouldn’t be these ten hilarious quotes from Cliff that are still just as hilarious today as they were the day they were written.

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10 “How would the Civil War have changed if Abraham Lincoln had octopus tentacles instead of a beard?”

Number ten on this list is a question I never thought to ask ourselves: “how would the Civil War have changed if Abraham Lincoln had octopus tentacles instead of a beard?” Luckily, Cliff thought to ask the real questions, so we didn’t have to. As a historian by trade, I have to ask, how would the Civil War have changed if Abraham Lincoln had octopus tentacles instead of a beard? Would people have taken him more seriously, or less? Would they have been terrified? Would Pirates of the Caribbean be different now? So many questions, so few answers.

9 “Norm, you’ve got time to make your own coal.”

Cliff is, perhaps, best known for his hilarious zingers when his friends unwittingly set themselves up. This time, Norm’s the one accidentally asking for it when he says, “I wish I had time for a hobby,” prompting Cliff to reply, “Norm, you’ve got time to make your own coal.” According to the vast wealth of knowledge that is the Internet, we all know that it takes about 300 million years to make your own coal. Cliff is right to roast his friend, too; Norm obviously has way too much time on his hands based on how much time he spends in the bar.

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8 “Interesting little article here. It says that, uh… the average human being only uses 17% of his brain. Boy, you realize what that means? We don’t use a full, uh… 64%.”

I’ll admit, I’m just as bad at math as Cliff would probably be quick to point out I am, but even I heard this and knew that couldn’t be correct. Though I am bad enough at math that a calculator was put into use for these purposes. Sure enough, if the average human being only uses 17% of his brain, that means there’s a full 83% of his brain unused. Cliff is missing an entire 19% of his brain, which makes sense since he can’t do basic subtraction correctly, even when given the time to actually do the math out in his head. Nice try, buddy. You’re not fooling anyone.

7 “I wonder if you know that the harp is a predecessor of the modern-day guitar. Early minstrels were much larger people. In fact, they had hands the size of small dogs.”

Cliff wonders things throughout the day that anyone would wonder. After all, human beings are naturally curious, and it stands to reason that someone who spends as much time alone every day as a postal worker does would start to come up with some pretty interesting concepts.

Cliff fires off this fun fact—a musing, if you will—about harps and guitars, only going on to start talking about minstrels, as if anyone knows what he’s talking about. He just starts to spiral by the time he’s talking about their hands. Cliff really would have benefited from using Snopes, or even just from having the advantages of Google. As it is, he seems functionally illiterate.

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6 “It doesn’t seem fair, does it, Norm? That I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night?”

Cliff is worried about his buddies, that much is clear from this hilarious quote from him where he asks his buddy, “it doesn’t seem fair, does it, Norm? That I should have so much knowledge when there are people in the world that have to go to bed stupid every night?” He’s right, it isn’t fair.

There are so, so many stupid people in the world that go to bed every night without using the full 100% of their brain, just like Cliff says he does—or might, if he had been able to do that math early. Regardless, Cliff is aware that life just ain’t fair—for him more than most, it seems.

5 “That’s when you say one thing when you’re actually thinking about a mother.”

Woody with the wind-up: “What’s a Freudian Slip?,” and Cliff with the pitch: “That’s when you say one thing when you’re actually thinking about a mother.” Cliff must have been either so mortified or so proud when he said that. Knowing him, he would probably insist for years and years to come that he meant to say “a mother” rather than “another,” that he was giving an example, c’mon, guys.

Either way, is it too much to hope that Cliff doesn’t have an Oedipus complex? Was that ever something the other guys at Cheers were concerned about? Because, apparently, they should’ve been.

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4 “It’s a little known fact that cows were domesticated in Mesopotamia and were also used in China as guard animals for the forbidden city.”

Ah, Cliff and his “little known facts.” If he had a nickel for every time he told someone a “little known fact,” the man would have enough money to buy Cheers from Sam.

This time, he even starts out strong, with a fact I couldn’t disprove (mostly because I don’t know enough about the topic to speak intelligently about it): cows were domesticated in Mesopotamia. Sure, why not? Sounds good. Then, we get to the punchline: cows were also used in China as guard animals for the forbidden city. I’m picturing the cow in The Emperor’s New Groove in a helmet with a sword. Hopefully, the forbidden city wasn’t dangerous?

RELATED: 5 Reasons Why Frasier Is Better (& 5 Why Cheers Is Superior)

3 “It’s a little-known fact that the tan became popular in what is known as the Bronze Age.”

Speaking of Cliff’s “little known facts,” one of his best ones is also one of his shortest facts to date: “It’s a little-known fact that the tan became popular in what is known as the Bronze Age.” Any historian worth her salt can tell you that the Bronze Age is so-named because it was a period characterized by humanity’s usage of bronze.

Though people were working outside quite a bit and probably were rather tan, Cliff seems to be the only one who thinks that bronze is referring to the skin of the people alive during the time period. Also, the Bronze Age is characterized by cultures beginning to develop the first systems of writing, one of which was the cuneiform script of Mesopotamia, which begs the question: why does Cliff know so many random almost-facts about Mesopotamia?

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2 “There’s no rule against postal workers not dating women. It just works out that way.”

Oof. You hate to see it. Sometimes, people say things so blissfully ignorant you can’t help but laugh at them. To quote Diane, “if ignorance is bliss, this is Eden.” Poor Cliff doesn’t even realize that there doesn’t need to be a rule against postal workers not dating women because women don’t seem to ever want to date them—or, at least, they don’t want to date Cliff.

Interesting that Cliff specifies women, though; do the postal workers only employ gay men? Are there female postal workers? Do they have to be straight women? Once again, one of Cliff’s hilarious quotes only asks more questions than it answers. The question at the top of the list, though, remains the same: is Cliff okay?

1 “You wanna see dark sides, you oughta see Ma when you leave the shower curtain outside the tub.”

The question at the top of the list now has an answer: no! No, Cliff is not okay; clearly, that Oedipus complex we were worried about earlier has come back around to haunt us. Cliff doesn’t want to talk about his own dark side, nor does he want to try a reference to Star Wars; instead, Cliff decides to return to the subject of his mother, and how controlling and feral she seems to be. The same woman who gave her son the Freudian slip also, apparently, lashes out when water drips onto her bathroom floor.

Makes sense, though, that the number one quote from Cliff would be something both hilarious and chillingly haunting. For so many of us, Cliff Clavin is simply timeless.

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SWAT Lou speculation

So, earlier today I posted this post on my blog. In it I asked about where all this ‘Lou getting a bigger part in SWAT’ information was coming from. I have been looking around for casting information on SWAT season 8 and I couldn’t find anything official.

I asked this question because over the last week I’ve been receiving some highly interesting information and speculation on the SWAT casting for season 8.

BE AWARE that all that is in this post is based upon hearsay and rumours. As long as nothing official has been posted by Lou or CBS, all of this could just be interesting speculation, but ultimately not true. Whether it is true or not, I found it interesting enough to post about. Speculating is one of the fandom things I enjoy most. As long as it stays respectful and doesn’t hurt anyone, it’s a fun thing to do. But since it is only speculation, this could all turn out to be wrong. But in the meantime we have something fun interesting to talk about during hiatus.

Okay, it all started with a wonderful SWAT Sherlock Nonny (Nonny 1) who had some intriguing information to share. I’m not going to post the entire ask they sent me, but I’m cutting out the parts that are most interesting.

18 June: (he = Lou)

When I received this ask I thanked the Sherlock Nonny (Nonny 1) and asked them to keep me updated if they found anything else. Here is what they sent next.

I'm putting the rest under a cut, because it gets loooong! :)

19 June:

Then, three days ago, yet another anon (Nonny 2) messaged me with the following.

23 june:

Speed forward to today, when I received another message from yet another anon (Nonny 3) as an answer to my question on where people got all this SWAT information.

This person basically shared a post with me that they saw on someone’s blog and they felt it was a very interesting read and interesting information for us to know about.

26 june:

Can I just say how thoughtful and interesting that answer is. I have been called so many horrible things for pointing out that Lou's character is a plot device and I've been reading so many angry, hateful and spiteful posts about this topic that I’ve come to expect the same tone for all the posts about this subject. But this person isn’t spewing hate. They are just talking about the reality of where this storyline is going. I appreciate and respect that a lot. So please, can we at least treat this person with the same kind of respect? I really don't want to see any hate towards this person in the comments or reblogs. Thank you.

So, that’s about it. It’s a waiting game now on whether or not Lou did get a bigger role on SWAT. It could all be a coincidence and by next week he might be back happily tweeting about 911, but for now this is a plausible theory.

All we can do is wait and see how this story will unfold.

Thoughts?