#supergirl wank

[whalehouse1]

Welp I accidentally started shipping Kyle and Kara so that’s a thing.

[touchoffleece]

I came in late to the fandom but from deep dives into fan discussions that were sapphic Supergirl themed my guess is that it would have made more infighting then we already had with Sapphic Alex Shippers, and Dreamer stans. Yes there's cross over in sapphic Supergirl Shippers, Alex having her awakening fans, and Dreamer stans, but I am referring to the "As a fellow gay there can only be 1 gay character and-or 1 queer relationship having focus in a show at a time" despite Kara being very queer coded since seaons 1 (Winn thinking she was gay, Leslie Willis calling Supergirl gay coded via radio broadcast, "I would date her! [about Lucy Lane]") before Alex was written to be closeted or Dreamer was even in the show. It's hard for me to better explain it, because a lot of the examples I could point to are scattered all over the internet in all sorts of posts, but I am sure most Supergirl fans who rooted for Supercorp to be a possibility can recall examples of what I tried to describe because they most likely ran into them at some point. A lot of the time those types of arguments came up for reasonings why sapphic Kara shippers should drop that and focus on shipping the "existing gay stories" like Alex or Dreamer's love story with Brainy, despite season 1 Kara being gay coded in plain text. That paragraph will most likely be a hard pill to swallow for said fans who contributed to that animosity and in fighting but for the sake of this hypothetical we got to remember how much infighting we had with only 1 possible sapphic Supergirl ship we could all agree on as the highest possibility for Kara. Another hard to swallow pill would be taking time to recall a certain actress' shade at Supercorp shippers late into the show's life span with the release of a certain one off comic that hinted at Supercorp. Despite the bitterness of that I want to acknowledge the hurt those statements made (without flat out re-digging details) because it fueled one last horrible in fighting in the queer Supergirl fandom to the delight of known homophobic trolls. What about Jeremy Jordan's homophobic moment in that impromptu song challenge, you might wonder if I'm bringing the questionable antics of the actors and actresses? A lot of queer fans can agree Jeremy's song was a thoughtless dick move towards the queer Supergirl fans, but back then it happened when there was more plausible deniability towards the queer coding of Lena and Kara were portrayed as (end of season 2) compared to post season 5 (can't recall exact date of when that Batwoman one off comic came out but even at season 5 supercorp was way more heavily coded compared to season 2) of supergirl when that comic and the whole discussion those tweets started. All that mountain of text to try and show that if there was that much in fighting all ready when the most hard hitting romantic coded story we had was between Lena and Kara, there for sure would have been more shit show conversations of both" well meaning, bad faith, and in between conversations with SuperCat still in "the running". Not to mention SuperCat had been already been painted as problematic for the age difference, people getting into fights over whether it was incestuous because people being able to read Cat and Kara as a psudo mother-daughter relationship, or that there were abusive power dynamics because Cat was Kara's boss and a news media owner who also pretty much could expose Kara as Supergirl. Another issue I think that would have popped up is that straight up sapphics love Katie Mcgrath and would have started focusing on criticizing Calista Flockhart (which yes also made sapphic swoon, but we see how down bad people are for Katie Mcgrath both on a conscious and unconscious level, even to the point many tend to favor Lena over Kara) on a level that brought no value towards character analytics or romantic couple dynamics. I really liked Cat, and constantly wish we got more Cat Grant and Kara moments, but overall I think it was for the best that we only got 1 of those powerful women at a time to be shipped with Kara.

every now and then I think about what the ships situation would be like in the supergirl fandom if cat never left (because of dumb cw location change 🙄) because like without a doubt supercat was THE sapphic ship (if not just general ship) for season one and like if you check ao3 they have a fairly decent amount of fics (3,371) for a ship that is considered “dead” (never in my heart though) and was only super prominent within canon for one and like a half season with little bits and pieces here and there so I’m just really curious in terms of how supercat would have fared vs supercorp had cat stayed for the whole series and we got more interactions and storylines between her and kara

like would supercorp still be the most popular ship on the show (and pretty much the sapphic scene atm based on fic numbers) or would supercat stayed as the most popular ship since season one? I mean I know for a fact there would have been ship wars all of the place but ignoring all of that I’m definitely super curious about what would/could have happened had cat stayed in terms of ship dynamics

[rainaftersnowplease]

Do keep in mind that 601 was supposed to be 520, so what we're actually getting on Tuesday is the conclusion of season 5, and ostensibly the actual season 6 content will follow after that.

[autistic-danvers]

I...I really need y’all to understand the difference between fiction and reality and I...I just really need y’all to find some fucking boundaries....

[hanorganaas]

its okay to ship supercorp

its okay to ship karolsen

its okay to ship guardiancorp

ship all three for all i care

whats not okay is celebrating a black man getting shot in the back cause you want two white girls to touch vaginas

[moonlightperseus]

mechad brooks needs to shut the fuck up

[funnefatale]

Margot Robbie really out here cleaning up Supergirl's M@ggie S@wyer mess and giving latinx folks the Latina lesbian rep they deserve

[bigmammallama5]

i think one of my biggest harmless peeves about j*mes and l*na starting to date or whatever is that one of the biggest rules of friendship is you dont date your bff's ex. like. thats just a no no and asking for trouble... which i guess that's what the writers want...

[kara-luthors]

fans, media and TV critics: we don’t want Mon-El 

the CW:

[chaisexuality-archive]

We don’t hate James x Lena because we’re “racist”, we hate them together because they have no chemistry, and James has repeatedly blamed Lena for a lot of things that ended up not being her fault. It’s literal canon that James has expressed disdain for Lena, only because her last name happens to be the same as his best friend’s sworn enemy

yall write enemies to lovers for a white f/f ships yet they actually show it on screen in a palatable way and yall lose your minds.

[tommolinson]

me: *checks up on supergirl*

supergirl: has mon-el come back from the future with a wife

me:

me:

me: ok i'm done

[rainaftersnowplease]

Just thinking about how they could have avoided all this drama if they'd just let Lex stay dead at the end of S4 like he should have.

[merl-out]

The Supergirl fandom is highkey racist and aphobic and it pisses me off that no matter how many people I fucking unfollow that shit finds its way on my dash.

[rainaftersnowplease]

I know we like to joke, but neither of them actually has a drinking problem in the first place, so there's nothing to enable.

not pleased to see alex and lena enableing each other with the drinking but we got some really good scenes tonight.

call me a lush but i don’t think sharing whiskey after a hard day is enabling lmao

[ragnarssons]

i mean people deal with grief differently and for kara - she has lost her parents, her aunt, krypton is destroyed and she remembers every part of it and now she's lost the man she loves (due to the choice she made that she admits herself she'd make again) of course she's going to be devastated because loss accumulates. i think we saw by the end of the episode, that she's slowly trying to move past it and accept that being kara is just as important as being supergirl. idk that's just my two cents

Iris grew up thinking her mom was dead, just to discover that she was a drug addict who got a horrible sickness because of that. Two months (barely) after reuniting with her mom, Iris saw her die. I mean, yeah, everyone grieves differently, but it’s still a tv show in the end. Supergirl is choosing to portray Kara as “unable to move on” from a relationship that lasted like, three months top, while these same writers TRULY ditched her and James’ romance right at the beginning of s2 for no valid reason, and thus, creating no real emotions for the characters WHO WERE IN LOVE, like one episode ago, two days ago in the chronology of the episodes. That and considering Melissa Benoist commentaries about Mon-El, how he was “THE ONE”, how he’s the “first one/only one” who made her feel this way (hum hum, remember James Olsen, girly??) this is really the writers/cast pushing this storyline down our throats and seemingly reducing Kara’s storyline (at least at the beginning of the season) around this loss. While on the other hand, we had idk, yes, Iris West, who didn’t get a good childhood or a simple couple of years before losing Barry, who is still able to hold on to who she is and what she believes in, even tho she lost one of the most important people of her life. Not just her boyfriend of three months ago; she had know Barry for her entire life, he was her fiancé, he went through the speed force for saving her life, a decision HE made, while she was still traumatized about what happened to her (as in, almost dying). Yeah, she had her dad, well Kara has a sister who loves her, she has J’onn and friends, she has a cousin who is truly able to understand her. Grieving and showing women grieve and overcoming their pain is super important, *BUT* reducing a character trait as important as Supergirl/Kara Danvers (who existed LONG BEFORE Mon-El and never depended on him, were never motivated by his presence in Kara’s life, thank you very much, she was Kara years before knowing Mon-El, she tried love way before Mon-El) on a dude, is like-… no?? Supergirl is an icon for a ton of people, it’s not just about a storyline, it’s a whole symbol. I mean, I sure hope she’ll get over it however she needs to WITHOUT her “healing process” depending on Mon-El’s return, because otherwise, it’s bullshit. Kara loved herself WITHOUT Mon-El, and I hate that she “hates” herself, everything she loved about her life, because of a dude. No. Grieving is healthy. THAT on the other hand, is not healthy.

[brilliantfantasticgeronimo]

watsonian facts about supercorp that the cw can't ever erase, in no specific order:

lena moved to national city and began her quest of "cleaning the luthor name" because of supergirl

kara became a reporter because of lena

kara defended lena against kara’s family, kara’s best friends, the goverment, and common sense from actual proofs, both throughout s2 and throughout s5.

lena betrayed her adoptive family for supergirl

lena bought a multi-million-dollars-worth media empire for kara

lena built a giant statue in supergirl's honor

kara got pulled out of her s3 depression because of lena

kara entered her s5 depression because of lena

lena filled kara’s office with flowers

lena built a supersuit that protected kara from kryptonite, built solar granades to save kara from solar flares/solar exhaustion, and learned magic to protect kara from it. 

lena saved argo, kara’s last bastion of her bio family.

kara and lena saved each other’s lives on multiple occasions, and they would be dead in many multiverses/timelines if they weren’t by each other’s sides

kara said it was only thanks to lena that she got saved from her worst nightmare (an eternity in the phantom zone)

lena deposited all her trust on humanity on kara, and when she found out she betrayed her she went batshit insane

kara tried to change reality to get lena back

kara called her betrayal of lena “the worst mistake she made in her entire life”

lena abandoned her sciencing ways that meant so much to her, and risked really hurting humanity through her magic, just to save kara

kara's final push to accept herself as she is came from lena