#sue blames reed

[rocknroll7575]

X men au

*Marvel rivals*

Magneto: AH Jaune good to fight with one of my most loyal brothers

Jaune: I would rather fight Galactus alone than join you* 10 9 8* and the only reason I even Interact with my version of you is cause you deserve to know your grandchildren

Galacta: GO

Magneto: MY WHAT

Ok... now You've made me do Jaune Marvel Rival interactions:

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Magneto: What are my grandkids like, Jaune?

Jaune: Heh, there a handful, but Wanda's able to handle them

Magneto: Are you not able to take care of them in your world?

Jaune: No, its just that with their mutations, I'm lucky to still be alive, haha! Taking care of Mutants children is way harder than Mutant teens!

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Jaune: Logan? That really you!?

Logan: Yeah, it's me kid, why you lookin so suprised?

Jaune: Oh! Its uh... you just look a lot smaller then I remember...

Logan: What does that mean, huh?

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Emma: Do you think that Scott...?

Jaune: Don't think it Emma, he's gotta be ok, he's faced worse odds then fighting vampires

Emma: I know, I just... I worry

Jaune: I know you do, Emma...

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Jaune: Heh, never thought I'd see the day you'd be working with Peter, Eddie

Venom: We have embaraced our role as a protector yet the spider seems to still distrust us...

Jaune: Can you blame him? You did try to kill him... mutiple times I might add

Venom: Tried is the key word

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Peni: Wow! Your powers are amazing Jaune!

Jaune: Thanks Peni, your Mech is pretty cool too, way more advanced than anything my world has!

Peni: I'd love to see what kinda tech you have in your world, I would love to see what it's like

Jaune: Heh, maybe one day Peni, hopefully, Reed'll be able to take me home someday

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Groot: I am Groot

Jaune: Names Jaune Arc, nice to meet you big guy

Groot: I am Groot

Jaune: ...uh, you already said that

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Jaune: Never thought I'd see you here Ben!

Thing: Heh, me too kid, though I gotta ask... you ain't a vampire, are ya?

Jaune: Ben, do I look like a vampire to you?

Thing: Don't know... I'm half expecting you to sparkle in broad daylight

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Johnny: Hey Jaune! Didn't expect to see you here man!

Jaune: Good to see you Johnny, how are you dealing with... all this?

Johnny: Eh, seems like just another problem for Reed to solve, Hey! Met any hot babes lately?

Jaune: I'm happily married, Johnny...

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Wanda: I'm worried Jaune... with both of us here, who's looking after the children?

Jaune: I don't know Wanda, but hopefully it's Scott or Rogue, at least they can be responsible

Wanda: What about Lorna?

Jaune: Honey, no offense, but the last time your sister babysat, she got them and her trapped in the danger room.

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Susan: Jaune, I see you brought Emma with you

Jaune: Don't worry Sue, I'll keep Emma in line,

Susan: Good, you're one of the only people she'll listen too, how do you do it?

Jaune: seven sister's remember?

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Black Widow: Arc? That you kid?

Jaune: Hey Natt, why'd you look so surprised to see me?

Black Widow: Just... it's good to see a familiar face after so long

Jaune: It's good to see you too Natt, I hope the future's treating you well

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Jaune: Hey, we're cool, right big guy?

Hulk: Hulk has no problem with Arc, but Hulk still remembers prank you and Parker pulled

Jaune: Aw, come on, can't we live and let live?

Hulk: Yes, but Hulk will get you back

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Hawkeye: Heh, a knight and an archer, aren't we a pair?

Jaune: You said it, Clint! Let's just hope that aim of yours is still as good as I remember it

Hawkeye: Haha! Unlike your aim, mine's always perfect

Jaune: Hey, I've gotten better!

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Jaune: How are you hanging Buck?

Bucky: I've been taking your advice kid, trying to keep moving forward

Jaune: It's hard, but it's what we gotta do, just to keep fighting the good fight

Bucky: Funny, you almost sounded like Steve there for a second

~~~ ~~~ ~~~

Jaune: Hey there little guy... Haven't seen Gwen for a while, everything alright?

Jeff: *sadly purring*

Jaune: Well, hopefully we can find her in all this mess bud, we all miss her

Jeff: *hopeful growling*

[niyoriix]

Hcs for Sue&reedChildFem!reader + Jeff the shark

All X Susan&Reeds child Fem!Reader(PLATONIC)🐈‍⬛

This was requested but I can't find their req again😭

Warnings: Reader is about 8-12? Lol a lil angst?? Reed and Susan aren't really there since they're busy, but they try. Also a few HC for sue and reed!

⋆.˚ ★—It was an early morning when you found out your parents were busy working- again. It wasn't unusual, I mean come on, you have superheroes for parents. And it's not like they WANT to leave you home by yourself. Even though they're gone they at least left you a little friend to play with while they're gone.

⋆.˚ ★—"Jeff!" You shouted in joy once you saw him "Mmrrrp!(Translation: Friend!) Looks like he was happy as well! You and Jeff were the bestest of friends, you spend a lot of time together doing random things. Since you both like the beach you spend most of your time there. But If you have an interest in baking, Jeff will most definitely try his best to help you! Have any other interests? He'll be there to help you!

⋆.˚ ★—since your young and reed and sue are quite protective of you. You can't really go outside by yourself, so Jeff decided to be your guard shark! he was so excited to start spending even more time with you! So even though you can't understand him and have to rely on guessing, you can most definitely tell that he adores you.

⋆.˚ ★—when your parents aren't busy with work and saving the planet, they love playing spending their time playing with you and Jeff. It's a great bonding experience for all of you. Movie nights,theme parks,mini park dates and anime/themed cafes/restaurant dates. Reed and sue try and make up for the lost time.

⋆.˚ ★—When reed and sue are busy and Johnny and Ben aren't. They are going to be found with you most of their free-time. Ben goes grocery shopping with you, Johnny likes using your adorable face to get the ladies, Sue wasn't happy when she found this out btw. She also wasn't very happy when she found out they had bought you a LION. And that they had brought it to YOUR home for YOU to pet and love. Reed thought it was a little funny but he also thought it was immature and stupid for Ben and Johnny to do. Sue was pissed. She thought, had the lion not been properly trained or the lion just Decided to hurt you, she wouldn't have you anymore. and that thought scared her to her core.

⋆.˚ ★—she trusted Ben and Johnny not to do anything stupid yet this had happened. She just wanted you out of harm, they understood that and apologized quickly. You were also sorry since you had asked them to get you a lion(although you didn't actually think they'd do it-) sue and reed were fine with you wanting one and asking for said lion, they don't blame you for wanting one. They were just worried. Also Johnny and Ben were grounded for this event.

SCOOPER MC DOOPER I'm gone. Reqs open😺 BYEEE✓✓

[traincat]

I can’t believe we live in a world where Johnny Storm doesn’t canonically have ONE child!! I know we have Torus from MC2 and he is a cute kid but I can’t stand that continuity for the whole Lyja and Johnny being in a love relationship 🤢 so I choose to ignore its existence.

I know you’ve had some spideytorch fics where there’s mention of them having babies and I absolutely ADORE them even if you don’t go too deep on them. If you were a marvel writer and got to write a story about Johnny becoming a father how would you go about it?

He does also have a kid with Jan van Dyne in a canon divergent AU that breaks off from the original Secret Wars. He has tiny little wings and flame powers and he's very cute. Credit to Jan for snagging herself a man who will let her dress him up like her own personal Barbie doll.

If I was going to write a "Johnny acquires a baby" storyline, there's two ways I would go about it. The first is the typical Future Foundation adoption storyline -- even before Ben and Alicia got their alien kids, the moloids were very much "Ben's kids," like the fish kids were Sue's kids, but Johnny didn't really have a designated baby in the group. We know Johnny really, really wants kids, so I think him adopting a kid who gets absorbed into the larger Future Foundation group would be cute, but I don't have any specific ideas here, really.

The second is going to take us on another trip down Johnny Storm Nonconsensual Incidents lane. But in a different way than the fake egg baby. It's uh. It's something that we have multiple options here.

So let's talk about Fantastic Four Annual 2010.

This one's a doozy. Psycho-Woman, the daughter of villain Psycho-Man, drugs Johnny and a young woman named Amy, who Johnny went on a date with once but "doesn't remember" even kissing. Psycho-Woman then inseminates Amy with Johnny's child. Great. Some may know Psycho-Man from Sue's very own sexual assault allegory story back in John Byrne's run, and are we seeing a Storm siblings pattern yet. Psycho-Man was a villain from Sub-Atomica who specialized in emotional manipulation, specifically the feelings of fear, hate, and doubt. Psycho-Woman also possesses the ability to manipulate emotions, but she specializes in envy, disgust, and indifference -- and I think envy and disgust are interesting emotions we could play with re: Johnny's Everything, but that's not really relevant to the comic at hand unfortunately.

So there's a thing with the Fantastic Four where the cosmic energy that gave them their powers also nearly killed Sue in childbirth. When Amy tries to get in contact with Johnny at the Baxter Building and this energy signature is picked up, it kicks off a race against Psycho-Woman's attempt to kidnap Amy for the fetus, where the end goal is to use Johnny's DNA for an army of cosmic warriors. Sure, why not. With Johnny infected, literally, by a microscopic Psycho-Woman who is hiding in his body Magic School Bus style, Reed shrinks the rest of the family down to go hunt her down inside of Johnny. Yadda yadda, there's some good angst when Johnny thinks he's burned his family alive after being forced to flame on to save a falling Amy, all's well that ends well. Right?

Well, Amy decides to use Reed's time machine to jump back in the timeline and prevent the pregnancy altogether. Cannot blame her. What's interesting here is Johnny's reaction to both Amy and the pregnancy. While he never displays any romantic interest in Amy -- and even goes out of his way to avoid her before he realizes she's pregnant, denying vehemently that anything happened between them, which turns out to be true -- absolutely incredible to write a pregnancy story while making it pretty clear that Johnny did not have sex with a woman -- he is immediately on board with the idea of the baby once he knows it's his. Because Johnny really wants kids. Even if the method to get them is getting drugged by a creepy supervillain in a shady VIP club room. We saw this with the fake egg baby, too, where despite his complicated feelings on Lyja, Johnny really wanted that baby.

Oh, buddy.

"And who's going to take care of it -- you?" "Yes." "Oh, Johnny. I almost believe you." Haha. Hey. :(

The issue ends on a somewhat open note, though, stating that there's no real way to be sure what choice Amy made once she jumped back in the timestream, or even how far back she went. So it's entirely possible Johnny has a canon kid in 616, just that this storyline hasn't been brought back yet. This is probably the story thread I would go with, just because it provides a sense of continuity, and it ties into a lot of Johnny Issues in a way where you could really dig into Johnny's characterization and history. And I did actually start a WIP with this Maybe Baby ages ago, but I didn't get that far into it as I remember. I might try to find it if anyone's interested in more relics from the Traincat WIP Folder.

[brw]

Pre-BenAlicia FF is really funny. The whole idea that they're a family is still there, but now it's a man, his wife, her younger brother, his son, and his best friend from college who just sorta lives with them. Who canonically had a crush on Sue. And definitely has some weird repressed feelings for Reed too. Absolutely everyone in a 5 mile radius just assumed that was a throuple situation and I do not blame them.

[loveueddie]

𝑯𝑨𝑷𝑷𝒀 𝑽𝑨𝑳𝑬𝑵𝑻𝑰𝑵𝑬'𝑺 𝑫𝑨𝒀, 𝑱𝑶𝑯𝑵𝑵𝒀'𝑺 𝑮𝑰𝑹𝑳 ۵

Pairing: Johnny Storm x Fem!Reader

Warnings: innuendo of sex, mention of sex, inappropriate language, Johnny being a cute boyfriend. Not yet reviewed.

You and Johnny have known each other since high school, through Reed. It turns out that having a similar IQ to Reed made you his best friend, when he met Sue, you were forced to meet Johnny Storm. At first, it was annoying, you hated his playboy and womanizing ways, he was always flirting with you and you had to put up with it every single day. It got worse when he and the others took the space trip where they gained their powers, he was always showing off his flames and attracting attention. You had to put up with him every single day, again, when you helped Reed officially found the Fantastic Four. Johnny was always winking, flirting, and touching you... until you discovered that everything he said was more real than the Thing's fake wig.

Johnny changed, the womanizing side was left aside, he changed for you. He fell madly in love with you just like you fell in love with him. He was always trying to make you feel special, in his own way. Sometimes when you were angry, he would bring you flowers, when he accidentally set them on fire because he was nervous.

Being Johnny's girl was not an easy task when your boyfriend is the most coveted and most admired man by women in New York. York. Even though Johnny told you every single day that you were his girl, you couldn't help but feel a pang of jealousy and possession when some random girl flirted with him, sent him letters with lipstick on his mouth, or winked at him.

But despite the jealousy, being Johnny's girl also had its good moments. All of New York knew you're the girl from the Human Torch:

Before heading to the Baxter Building for a day of work as Reed's assistant, you walk towards the coffee shop. To say the least you were late and that was never like you, the girl who was always right, punctual, intelligent and Reed's sweetheart. You blame the delay on your sister-in-law, Sue, who kept you up late showing you the wedding dresses she intended to choose for her wedding to Reed.

You enter the coffee shop, the bell ringing as you enter the place with the aroma of several different types of coffee. As soon as you approach the counter, the manager immediately smiles and says to the attendants the usual:

"Johnny's girl espresso!"

Johnny's girl. The title caught on everywhere and you loved being his girl. I mean, who wouldn't love to be Johnny's girl?

You were in the laboratory, making notes on what you and Reed could do to make HERBIE's intelligence more up to date, the robot was part of that crazy family of superheroes. You were doing it alone as Reed was busy making new installations in the Baxter Building, Sue and Ben were decorating the building with decorations for Valentine's Day.

Then your attention is taken away when you feel your reading glasses come off your eyes and Looking up, you see your boyfriend putting his glasses on his eyes and giving a charming smile.

"What do you say?" He strikes a playful pose, flexing his strong biceps through that skin-tight jumpsuit that makes you look horny just by looking at it. “Do I look smart and sexy?"

You pretend to roll your eyes and look at him, taking his glasses off his eyes. "No, you look even more stupid."

"Hey baby, that was mean of you." Johnny says placing his hand on his chest and pouting dramatically. "I'm Johnny Storm, I'm sexy and hot even if I were bald."

Johnny's smile was enough to make your legs go wobbly and you thank God you're sitting down. Johnny on the other hand, grabs your hands and pulls you up so you can stand up and he wraps his arms around your shoulders. "How's my girl?"

You smile, hands stroking his strong biceps on your shoulders. "Actually, I want to eat something."

"Really?" Johnny whispers, his brown eyes turning a darker shade and his voice full of desire. His hands, covered in black gloves, went down to your ass and squeezed lightly. "Because I'm hungry too. Very hungry."

You look at him, your eyebrow raised and biting your lip, because Johnny always had an insatiable thirst for you that happened when you least expected it and in the least expected place.

"Uh, uh." You place your index finger on his lips as he leans in to kiss you. "Last time you did this, we ended up getting laid here in my lab..."

"Yes, and it felt fucking good." He growls, biting your finger playfully.

"But it wasn't cool when Reed found out and had you wash the Fantastic Car with an old toothbrush after Ben ate nachos and burritos." You remind him and he groans in disgust at the memory.

"I'm going to ban all machos and burritos from this town." Johnny says with a look of disgust, but soon replacing it with a smirk. "But come on, we'll be careful this time. My girl likes naughty thrills."

Yes, damn, you did after you met Johnny and didn't know each other anymore. Johnny managed to corrupt Reed's innocent assistant with just carnal acts. You couldn't complain, the sex with Johnny was incredible and mind-blowing, after all, he had a lot of experiences before you.

But despite that, you deny it, maybe because Sue and Ben were walking back and forth with their Valentine's Day decorations, it wouldn't be nice to be caught by Sue or Ben.

"I promise that tonight beautiful lingerie awaits you in your dorm." You say smiling and Johnny's eyes light up like a child just getting candy.

"A lingerie, huh?" Johnny smiles. "You know, I wrote this in my letter to Santa Claus, but I didn't think I'd get the gift so soon. Any special reason?"

Typical of Johnny forgetting the dates and not noticing all the Valentine's Day decorations lying around . Sometimes he was distracted, like the last time he got lost on a car trip because he got distracted watching two ants having sex

"Today is Valentine's Day." You say, wrapping your arms around his neck. Johnny tries to hide his surprise with a smile.

"Y-yes, of course I did. I haven't forgotten. Pff, I would never forget the date of our first kiss." Johnny says. "Me? Never!"

You nod, suppressing your smile, finding his denials about not having forgotten that date cute. "Did you hear that?" Johnny says suddenly and you frown, not hearing anything. "Ben is calling me, he must have gotten stuck in the toilet again. I'll see you later, I love you!" Johnny kisses you before running out the door.

"I love you too." You say, even though he was already gone.

It was almost seven in the afternoon and you were locking the lab to go to Johnny's dorm floor to do the who promised, you were eager to say the least. This night would be unforgettable.

Or not.

Ben runs towards you looking panicked, panting as if he had run a marathon to get to you. You look at him confused, finding his behavior strange.

"Johnny was attacked on the terrace! We need his help!" Ben says.

His words were enough for you to run to the elevator and press the button for the building's terrace several times. Once there, you look around trying to find Johnny, already expecting to see the worst of your boyfriend.

But there was nothing.

Then, the sky is lit by something strong with yellow and orange colors. You look up at the sky and see your boyfriend flying with his body full of flames, waving at you with an arrogant and passionate smile on his lips.

You can smile in relief as he slowly flies towards you and extinguishes the flames when he lands on the floor.

"Ben said...oh my god, I'm going to kill him." You say hugging your boyfriend tightly. Johnny smiles, hugging you back and placing a kiss on your forehead.

"I'm fine, I asked him to do it." Johnny says, pulling away a little to look at your face, a smile playing on his lips. "You know I've always liked a dramatic entrance."

He points to the sky and your heart pounds with love for your boyfriend when he sees the sky in flames, something he did for you, written: I love you, my girl.

"Happy Valentine's Day, baby." Johnny whispers in your ear, gently kissing your ear.

"I love you." You smile, looking into his eyes and then up to the sky where Johnny's statement was written with his flames. He lit up the sky for her for all of New York to see his love for her.

"I love you more, my girl." Johnny kisses your lips, with love and fire. His lips moving against yours, bringing butterflies to your stomach. He pulls away and puts his forehead against his. “Are you still going to wear that lingerie? Because I think big Johnny is ready for action." He points to his groin.

You laugh, nodding your head. "Yes, my love."

You're definitely Johnny's girl.

[fandomnerd9602]

Jane Storm x Male Sunspot/Golden Boy Reader

Jane and the reader have the same powers. She have a makeout session that lights up the whole room on fire

Reed extinguishes the last of the flames…

Sue: you’re both reckless

Reed: your combined heat could’ve destroyed the whole building!

Y/N: sorry

Jane: can you blame me? Y/N is so hot!

Y/N: not as hot as you babe

Reed: no funny business until I can synthesize a fireproof room system

Jane: I make no promises

[kirbyoutofcontext]

Kirb Your Enthusiasm #2:

Fantastic Four Issue #4

This issue kicked my ass. I was not prepared for the shift that happened here so let's take a look at it.

We just had a falling out with Johnny who quit the team (already? three issues in?). Ben's growing feelings of resentment are boiling over, Reed has been holding on to so much blame for things himself and it's eating at him. Sue has been strained by their conflicts.

Johnny is actively hiding from them. They split up to seach for him in The Entirety of New York which is described in very interesting ways -- silent canyons and caverns and valleys -- and you get this building sense that it's just scary to be alone out here, you know? It's scary and it's sad. Note how Ben is talking about Johnny and looking at a fighter jet. Sue is thinking about the family conflict and looking at Ben.

This issue clearly wants to talk about anger.

We see Johnny actually having a good time pursuing his personal passions until Ben finally locates him. Ben, the person most upset at him, findss him by thinking about him. About what he used to do before being a hero. When they were friends.

They have their argument and you can feel how close they are to a potential resolution but their emotions flare and Ben experiences one of his human transformations.

I mean this alone should qualify the issue as an All-Timer but then they have the audacity to make the very next page say this

Oh it's so good. It's sooo good.

anyway, we go back to Johnny and he is hiding again. This is where we start getting a bunch of hulk stuff. Like just look at this page and see how many hulk flags you can spot. obvious ones like Johnny wearing a green jacket with purple pants and the guy looking over his shoulder at the comic having that green skin and kind of an early hulk appearance.

Johnny eventually encounters the sub-mariner and returns him to the ocean to help restore his memories. Look at this sequence of passion and ecstasy punctuated by "WHAT IS THE HULK??"

Anyway Namor discovers his lands destroyed and people gone. He's ALONE and ISOLATED in the CAVERNS and CANYONS of his city

He summons his big bad Giganto boy to aggress New York and the Fantastic Four finally reunite and face the threat.

Ben's issue with Johnny started with Johnny solo defeating the last big threat. So he takes the opportunity here to do his own Solo Triumph. He carries a nuclear bomb into the gut of Giganto and kills him. When Johnny catches up, Ben says "Save your cheers" as a way to say 'we're even now, kid.' after he processed Reed finally saying "Actually, Ben, this one specifically IS your fault. Go deal with that" finally not trying to play sineater.

It's also this sequence where we have a killer Comics Concept. Stan Lee says Time is ticking, The Thing says 'I might as well tackle that too!' second panel shows him pummelling something that has a classic "counterweight on a second hand" shape and in panel three, his posture looks like he's physically wrestling the time sfx. WHAT IS THE HULK??

I love how this story sets up Namor's rage response to "kill all humans" and how all of these characters are struggling to communicate past their anger. When i got to the final page and there was no Hulk, I gasped. I covered my mouth and audibly gasped. The tension is now Crazy Mode.

[the-invisible-bunny]

“I’ll tell you my deepest, darkest secret,” Johnny said softly.

Peter hesitated. He couldn’t imagine Johnny having any secrets - he was so bright and honest, shining like sunshine. He certainly couldn’t imagine him having any dark secrets. Not like Peter, with his secret identity. But still, he was tempted. The desperate desire to have one single other soul besides himself know the truth. The unshakable certainty that he could trust Johnny. A growing curiosity about what Johnny might consider to be a deep, dark secret. 

Johnny was looking at him, still and hopeful at his silence. “A secret no-one else knows, not even the Four,” Johnny continued, knowing he had a chance.

A secret for a secret.

“Tell me,” Peter said, “and I’ll consider telling you.”

“That’s not fair,” Johnny said. “I have a public identity. If you tell everyone my secret it could ruin everything we’ve built. If you tell me your identity, I probably won’t even know who you are.”

Johnny had a point. Still Peter stalled. “I don’t even know what you consider an equivalent secret,” he said, though he was worried by Johnny’s assertion that it could ruin the Fantastic Four. Had he killed someone? “For all I know, you might be talking about forgetting to feed the inter dimensional cat and blaming it on the Thing.”

Johnny huffed. He looked tense, and Peter knew it was something bigger than that. He was about to relent, when Johnny started talking.

“When we first got our powers, Reed went on and on about how we had to show the world that we were heroes, we were good guys, and that we were just normal people. He and Sue were just a normal couple, in love, planning a wedding, they just had superpowers and fought bad guys. That Ben, underneath his rocky exterior, is still just a guy from Yancy Street - he’s still human. That I was just a normal teenage boy who sometimes struggled with school and dated pretty girls.” He looked Peter dead in the eye. “And all I could think was that I hadn’t managed to tell them yet that I wasn’t… that I was…” he swallowed. “That I was gay.”

Peter processed this. Johnny looked so nervous, so uncertain, and all he knew was that Johnny shouldn’t ever look like that. Johnny should be glowing and sparkling. A radiant sun.

He yanked his mask off without ceremony. It was a fair trade.

“My name’s Peter Parker, I’m from Queens.”

And then they fall in love and bonk. Probably before the bonking Johnny helps protect Peter’s secret identity, and Peter tries to help Johnny publicly date girls/listens to him crushing on guys (before finally realising that the reason he hates the entire charade is because he wants to date Johnny himself, damn it).

Just a sudden idea that came into my head like five minutes ago and I thought I’d get it down. Maybe I’ll expand and write more, maybe not. I’ve got other WIPs that are higher priority.

[raghhhhhyperfixations]

Johnny web? Flamespider? Something along those names.

I think it would be really funny for Johnny and Peter to date, like both their carers are super geniuses (If you count reed as caring for him, or if you count sue, since she’s Johnny’s sister but either way) both of them are somewhat rich and genius.

Both have been to outer space (Not just the MCU spiderman) and both of them are teenagers with no filter or control.

So just imagine…

the chaos it causes.

Tony watching peter try to sneak out: “Where ya going pete?”

Peter: “uhhhh.” AND HE FUMBLES. “Baxter building?” and shoots a web and gets out before Tony can further grab at him.

Tony: Baxter building? why on earth would he be going there?

-

Reed: “Johnny for the love of- wait where are you going?” because he thought he saw Johnny inching closer to his latest invention, turns out it was away.

Johnny: “To Stark towers,” like it’s the casualest thing ever and he thinks, reed knows, so he shoots out with flame on.

Reed: “Stark towers? why would he be going there?”

The thing just shrugs and goes back to jabbing at the tv whenever he sees hulk like ‘you missed our tuesday spar.’ (Canon sparring buddies)

-

So when reed and Tony meet up something goes along like this:

Tony: “You’ve been trying to sneak my kid from under me!” He accuses in front of everyone at a charity event that most heroes were or weren’t at.

Reed: “Me? You’ve been trying to sneak my kid from under me!” he shoots back because he really does care for Johnny like a little brother.

They both pause.

Then do the math, both their kids sneaking out to see someone at each others building, it’s not them and- suddenly the two are staring at where Johnny had grabbed Peter’s wrist and dragged him away from,

Tony still tries to blame reed: “Keep that fireball away from my spider! he’s a bad influence.”

Reed can’t deny that, so, how do you explain to your wife that her little brother has been sneaking around with Tony Stark’s intern/ son? and here he was for once trying to defend Johnny. He’s at fault, as usual.

(Having no idea that peter initiated or contributed to most of those touches and kisses and perhaps more, He was an insatiable thing and Johnny couldn’t get enough)

and when they return to the party later it’s Johnny who looks disheveled but quite happy, Peter inching closer to him every second to try and pull him in for another kiss hoping nobody’s watching them.

[therobotmonster]

The Fantastic Four Movie Problem: A Pulp Peg in a Hero-Shaped Hole.

There's been a lot of attempts to make Fantastic Four movies, and none of them have really worked.

(I made the best one biggest. Fight me.)

I know why.

It's because the Fantastic Four, while being in the superhero genre, are not superheroes. They are adventurers.

They have more in common with these guys:

Than these guys:

And it all comes down to story structure, particularly in the origin episode.

Superheroes are by nature reactive. They respond to threats, protect people, and generally act as a blend of rescue worker and (usually) nonlethal sheriff. They are the heightened-reality version of the helpers of Mr. Rogers' philosophy. Doomsday shows up, you stop Doomsday. If there's no crime, you're not doing anything that day.

But the Fantastic Four, and particularly Reed, are adventurers. They go and find their trouble. There might be vague rumblings of something strange or unusual seismic activity or whatever to initiate the adventure, but Reed isn't waiting for the phone to ring so he can punch a bank robber, he's making plans for an expedition to Monster Island or he's built a doorway to the Negative Zone for the express purpose of exploring another universe.

The Fantastic Four go looking for interesting things and find trouble when they get there. The main exception to this is Doctor Doom, and the rush to make him the main villain in the first film is a rush past a glorious feast to go straight to the dessert.

It's like starting Holmes off face to face with Moriarty from day one, and it puts the Fantastic Four in the same do-gooder box as the rest.

It chops out their most unique aspect, their proactive nature, that all their personalities hinge on: It informs Reed's obsessive need to know and how it warps his priorities. It feeds Johnny's thrill-seeking and recklessness. Ben's mutation is the cost of that drive taken to the point of hubris and informs the spirit of the whole team. And Sue, who is the most traditionally superheroic in her outlook, has the codependent role of keeping her loved ones safe despite their self-destructive adventurism.

It's a long standing fandom joke that Reed is an asshole.

It's not unwarranted, but the whole team is a dysfunctional but still caring family, each with similar flaws. A thing that the adaptations often lose because they wind up being overly bicker-y to make up for the more static, reactive superhero format, and blaming Reed for them being freaks is easy pathos.

If they were treated as the pulp adventurers they are in spirit, you'd have a lot more chances for them to bond as each leg of the journey into the Savage Land runs into natural hazards and lesser foes on the way to the climax fight.

In short: Pulp it up.

[my-marvel]

How I'd Make The MCU: 2006's The Fantastic Four

Of course we have to establish Marvel's First Family after the Big Three:

1. In this version, Victor Von Doom is a prince of Latveria, who's uncle rules the kingdom. In this universe, Latveria roughly matches the region of Banat, and is a predominantly Romani kingdom. 

2. The origin story is that Reed, Sue, Johnny, Ben, and Victor go into space for science stuff when a burst of cosmic rays causes them to get their powers and for their shuttle to fall back down to Earth. 

3. After the incident, Victor shuts himself into his lab, having been scarred by the event physically and is trying to understand what happened to him. The Four begin receiving tons of public attention for what the papers are calling "their fantastical abilities." 

4. Reed plans to construct a machine to reverse their conditions. However, Johnny refuses to cooperate, insisting they should just embrace their powers. Victor discovers his ability to generate green lightning, determining this is not a curse but a gift. He blames Reed for the accident, and begins plotting his revenge. He feigns interest in Reed's work, helping him develop the machine.

5. Sue is not enjoying all the public attention, unlike Johnny who loves every second of it. Ben is having a lot of self-esteem issue now that he's the Thing (a name he gives himself after a dog mistakes him for a boulder to pee on ("Look at me, even the dogs think I'm just some THING!")). Then, while moping around Central Park, he stops a blind girl from being mugged, Alice. The two start going out. 

6. After some acts of heroics by Sue and Reed, he decides perhaps their powers aren't as detrimental as he once believed. When he goes to talk to Victor about this, he finds Victor in his lab, now wearing that iconic metal mask. Victor explains he does not wish to show his scars, basing the mask off of King Baldwin IV's mask. He then talks about how his father was supposed to be king of Latveria, but died under suspicious circumstances. Finishing with, "Perhaps your right Reed, about these powers. Imagine all that we can now do..."

7. One night, Victor kidnaps Reed and Sue, revealing his master plan. He intends to use the machine to depower the Four, leaving him to exact his revenge however he sees fit. He manages to depower Reed, but Sue manages to get away and warn Johnny and Ben, who go help her save Reed.

8. Victor depowers Reed, planning to go out and find Sue. Reed manages to escape his bonds and finds Doom has locked him out of all his tech. While Doom is battling Sue, Johnny, and Ben, Reed is working to use his smarts to reverse the machine. Once he does, he repowers himself and joins the battle, which ends with Ben throwing Doom out of the building.

9. After the battle, the building, which Doom owned, is repossessed and given to the Fantastic Four, renaming it to the Baxter Building. 

10. In a post-credit scene, Doom returns to Latveria and goes to his uncle's court, where he kills his uncle and ascends to be the new King of Latveria. Final line ending the scene is, "Sleep with one eye open, Richards. For I am simply rebuilding my strength. I will not be a passing annoyance, I AM YOUR DOOM."

[bigfan-fanfic]

Sue " I know you love johnny but you can be honest with me. I'm not going to blame you for him being impulsive." Bf " Well I asked for a ride..." Sue " Instead of any of his car he took the fantastic car right?" Bf " He made Herbie drive around the block and was making out with me in the back seat."

Reed, head poking in from around the corner: "How did it handle? Was it smooth and easy?"

Sue: "REED!"

Reed: "Ew, the CAR, not Johnny!"

[abbatoirablaze]

Fire & Ice, Chapter 3

Word Count:  936

“Wh-where are we?”

Your carbon copy chuckled as she gestured around herself, “this is the place where my world ended…Johnny had snuck me up here...he wanted me to see every part of his life; including the superhero stuff even though I wasn’t interested.”

“Wha-what happened?”

She sighed, “Well, me and Johnny were making love in Reed’s machine when Sue found us. We’d accidentally started it, but nothing happened…at least, we didn’t think anything did…but that was the blip that started it all.  Only, I didn’t know it at the time.  Turns out, Sue had a visit from another version of herself, and she found out about my mind control abilities.  Her other self thought that I was controlling Johnny and convinced her that I was.”

“But you weren’t?” you asked slowly. 

She shook her head, and you noticed a few tears streaming down her cheeks, “I-I loved Johnny...I would never do anything to hurt him.  And that includes Sue.  I never wanted to hurt her.  But she was going to knock Johnny out.  They’d started fighting because she‘d tried to tell him that Reed needed to study me; to figure out how I got my powers, because it wasn’t like how they’d got them, and if people were mutating then they had to know why.  But he didn’t want Reed anywhere near me.  She’d had him pinned and I knew she was going to knock him out and come after me…so I used her blast against her, and she became impaled on some of the loose metal bars that Reed had left out.”

“Jesus…”

“Johnny knew it was an accident…he never held it against me…he was upset, sure, but he never blamed me for Sue’s death.  But Reed-he was a different story.  He hated me because of it.  Him and Ben called me a murderer.  But the only person we had ever hurt was our sister…and we were so young.  That was an accident too…” she said as she rushed up to you, “you know that, right?”

When she touched you, you saw the battle between Johnny and Sue play out. 

You saw how he wasn’t using his powers against her; he was only being defensive. 

And you saw her take advantage of the fact, knowing that Johnny didn’t really want to fight her.  Especially after Johnny pushed the version of yourself back into the machine to keep her safe. 

But she was desperate to get to him.  She froze the mechanical components and broke through the door just in time to use her mind-control abilities to bounce Sue’s forcefield back into herself, throwing everyone in the room in separate directions. 

She’d knocked herself out, narrowly missing death herself, but that fact didn’t matter to Reed or Ben. 

No, the only thing that mattered was that Sue had died.

“How did we get here?” you asked.

Your question cleared up the room once more, and you saw her standing beside you, holding onto your hand. 

“Simple enough...the last blip!” she said simply, “I think I was meant to write the wrong.”

“The wrong?”

“And I created a diversion downtown,” she whispered in an ashamed tone, “I did what I had to…I needed to show you why this place is important.”

Your eyes trailed to the tv where the desecration of downtown was playing out on a loop.  Your stomach turned as you saw a version of yourself freezing people and forcing them to harm themselves or simply unable to move because they were being controlled.

You turned to her, “y-you hurt people…you said that the only person we ever hurt was our sister.  That-”

You took a step back and she reached out, cutting you off, “I did what I had to do, April.  We were brought here for a reason.  We were meant to change our path.”

“I-I’m not on a path!” you said quickly, pulling yourself even further from her, “I’m not some murderer.  I don’t hurt people.  Leave me alone!”

“We need to kill them, April!”

“NO!”

Her nostril twitched and her gaze turned to an angry one as she scoffed, “I knew that you didn’t have it in you.  I could see it the second I walked into that café and saw you flirting with him.  You’re weak!  You don’t deserve the chance.”

“Wh-what?”

“I’ve been watching you for weeks, April,” she hissed, “ever since they last saved the city.  I saw how you were being coy.  I saw how you showed him your powers but kept everyone else in the dark.  You wanted him to see you…to chase you…BUT HE’S NOT A GOOD GUY!  HE WAS GOING TO LET ME DIE!  HE’LL DO THE SAME TO YOU, BECAUSE WE ARE THE SAME!”   

“WE’RE NOT THE SAME!”

“WE BOTH FELL FOR JOHNNY STORM WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADMIT IT OR NOT!”

“I WOULD NEVER HURT PEOPLE!” You screamed, “YOU’RE THE MONSTER, NOT ME!”

“You’re right…but there is one canon event that can stay the same…” she growled, “one thing that doesn’t have to change…and then I can take over this universe.”

“Wh-what?”

“Goodbye, April!” she smirked as she pushed you hard against the window. 

You screamed as you felt the glass breaking behind you.  It all felt like it was happening in slow motion as you felt weightless.  Your eyes widened as you realized that you were falling out of the Baxter Building. 

She had pushed you out of the building. 

Her eyes were glaring into yours as the top of the building became further and further away. 

The canon event...she wanted you to die, so that she could take your place.

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[thebibliomancer]

Earth X #5

Thor seems different than usual.

It’s probably the braids.

Earth X: what you get when you ask Alex Ross to write a Kingdom Come tier story for Marvel. It is Bad Future! Uatu the Watcher has been blinded and he’s forced Aaron to be his seeing eye robot.

If you’re wondering what their dynamic is, it’s this:

The world is a mess with mind-control squids and body-control forever teens. Everyone has been mutated and Reed Richards blames himself. Many of the heroes we know are dead, retired, or in the clutches of the squid or the kid. And the world may be destroyed by vibranium or humanity may super-evolve into space gods.

As we go on and learn more about this setting, there are more and more plot threads.

Captain America in a flag yoga and Wyatt Wingfoot went to California to investigate the Skull, a horrible teen with the power to control people. The Skull took Wyatt for his growing army but left Steve alone because it was funnier that way.

While Steve sits and despairs about the hopelessness of the situation, circus Daredevil shows up and offers to become Steve’s new sidekick.

I am alarmed that this guy is relevant to the plot.

Also… I’m kind of wondering if he’s supposed to be Deadpool. Not actually Wade Wilson Deadpool himself but he has a lot of Deadpool energy and almost nothing to do with Matt Murdock. Alex Ross usually doesn’t like anything introduced after the death of Barry Allen but I wonder if he liked Deadpool enough to want to include someone like him.

This circus Daredevil is given an actual origin in a prequel from a few years back but the idea is sticking in my mind.

He’s red and black, he wants to work with Cap, he’s got an irreverent sense of humor, and he’s got a healing factor so strong he can’t die and has little self-preservation instinct anymore.

Anyway.

The Inhumans continue their journey to find their missing prince. Last issue, Reed Doom promised he’d help by getting a Cerebro and reprogramming it to find Inhumans. He takes off - using a teleportation device made out of Lockjaw… Aww, best doggo is dead? This really is Bad Future.

Reed leaving causes the Doombots of Castle Doom to suddenly register the Inhumans as intruders.

Their fight against the bots leads Medusa and Luna to discovering Dr Doom’s time platform… and Reed’s notes on it, reflecting he really wants to use it to save Sue from exploding but he doesn’t know when he’d stop altering history if he started.

Elsewhere, Cyclops is contacted by Corsair, Havok, and Polaris. FROM SPACE!

They know something bad is going to happen to Earth and want to bring Scott away to space safety.

He refuses to leave without Jean, even though she chose Wolverine over him in the love triangle.

Also, when Alex Ross doesn’t like a character, you know it. And he seems to hate Wolverine.

The appendix reveals that all the psychics are dead (Professor X, MODOK) or depowered (Jean).

Not sure yet why but it means there’s nobody to counter the kid or the squid.

Over in New York, Kid Bruce and Gorilla Hulk visit Sorcerer Supreme Clea.

Clea and Wong explain to Bruce that Strange’s astral form was destroyed while it was out of his body. His body still lives but he’s essentially dead. And that’s why Clea is sorcererly supreme.

So Bruce explains what he’s there for. He’s been having the oddest recurring dream.

Of Captain Marvel on his Death of Captain Marvel deathbed. In the dream, he rises out of bed and shows the assembled crowd of friends, allies, and respected enemies that he has the universe inside him. And then dies.

A universe inside a person sounds to Clea like Eternity. But Eternity is dead. Despite being the universe. Not sure how that happens.

Bruce really wants Mar-Vell to explain the dream to him so he asks Clea to dunk him into the Realm of Death.

I feel like there’s intermediate steps you could try but what do I know.

And geez, Bruce’s dream of the universe inside a dude and visiting death to interpret it on top of the world possibly ending and superpowered menaces running amok with nobody to stop them… This universe is a mess.

(By the way, the appendix notes that Carol Danvers is the current Captain Marvel and that she’s in space helping the Kree on their destroyed capital. So Earth X gets two more tallies for things the 616 would copy later.)

Now then. Let’s talk cover Thor.

Earth X wants to paint the entire history of Marvel with one brushstroke. Superpowers and even super genius is the result of Celestial meddling.

The gods were mentioned in issue 0 as being in conflict with the Celestials but I guess Ross didn’t feel like actual gods fit the picture he was painting.

On Earth X, the Asgardians aren’t gods. They’re super advanced shapeshifting emphatic aliens with no personality of their own who take their identity from those who observe them.

They came to Earth and were viewed as the Norse gods so the Norse gods they became.

Their powers became what people expected them to be. Their personalities became what people expected them to be.

I have no idea how this alien race of blank slates managed to invent space travel.

I don’t particularly like this worldbuilding idea for Thor’s slice of Marvel. His mythos feels diminished if it’s just aliens play-acting old stories.

Anyway, girl bod Thor is fighting some storm giants that made their way to Midgard* alongside the Iron Avengers, who Thor treats as friends.

*Earth

Tony Stark in his isolation somewhere tells the Iron Avengers to respond to another crisis because Thor’s got this one handled.

Vision in a cool hood wants to argue, feeling Tony is being manipulated by President Norman Osborn but ultimately does what Tony asks.

Back of the book appendix info: when the mass empowering event started, Tony sealed himself in isolation, afraid of being changed. He didn’t know but Scott Lang Ant-Man snuck himself and his daughter Cassie into Tony’s isolated environment to try to protect her. But she wound up changing anyway. And now they’re stuck because they can’t leave without compromising Tony’s sealed environment.

The people outside that were mutated came to resent Tony for not being mutated so kept trying to attack his bunker or whatever. So he created the Iron Avengers and gave them his dead friends’ personalities.

Honestly, I can’t wait for the issue that focuses on Tony. There seems to be a lot to unpack.

Also in appendix news, Osborn went on a secret killing spree of supervillains before he took power. He wiped out a lot of Tony’s rogues gallery, for example. And he was never elected as president. He just had himself declared as such and a jaded mutated populace went okay whatever.

Earth X is a mess.

After fighting off the storm giants, Thor calls Loki out as responsible for the attack.

Interesting new design Loki. Could do with you being less interpersonally gross though.

Unsurprisingly, Loki is behind Thor’s new look, having somehow tricked Odin into turning his brother into a woman as his latest trial of humility.

And if Thor goes back to Asgard to tell Odin that Loki is up to his shit again, Loki will lock Thor away from Earth so he can’t stop his evil scheming.

This is a weird plot point.

I’ve heard that it inspired Jane Foster Thor but I’m pretty sure both this and Jane Foster Thor were inspired by the What If where Jane Foster became Thor.

Thor seems only mildly irritated by this whole thing but sheesh, with everything else going on why throw this in?

Earth X is a mess. Captain America is demoralized and wearing the flag as a toga. Cyclops is depressed and lost the love of his life, again. Spider-Man is depressed and has a Venom daughter. Reed is depressed and blames himself for the state of the world.

And Thor has been rule 63’d. But at least he’s not depressed?

[i-have-one-braincell]

You mentioned not liking some parts of the show (usm), could you elaborate?

Oh boy where do I start😭😭

A few obvious complaints would be the fourth wall and overuse humour. The humour just felt very forced and shoved on my face and the fourth wall wasn’t helpful, if anything, I found him to be pretty annoying but not as annoying as Marvel’s Spider-Man, I couldn’t go past the first two episodes of msm unlike usm😅😅. The fourth wall did work well in the Deadpool episode since Deadpool is the KINGG of fourth walls break unlike Spider-Man, it basically felt as if Peter was another version of Deadpool with the constant fourth walls.

At least it changed in the last seasons but the show at that point kinda sucked for me.

Another complaint would be the characters. I love the team, I really do, but they just were kinda bland for me. They were assholes to Peter and never saw them interact with each other if it wasn’t Spider-Man/ SHIELD related. I wouldn’t mind if the show started with them disrespecting Peter and then visually appreciating his leadership and learning about his reasoning why he does what he does up to the first 2 seasons, in the show they just act like coworkers or kids forced to partner up for a school project. It unforgivable on my part that they wouldn’t appear again in the 3rd and last seasons since I actually grew to care for them in the 2nd season.

SHIELD was also an issue for me. I HATEDDD how Fury just spied and followed a 16 yr old boy just to recruit him and taking over his school life, the only normal part of him being Peter Parker without the need for Spider-Man. As well as the amount of cameras in his house which honestly was pretty disgusting😭 like why do they need a camera in the bathroom and the bedrooms????? I understand the intention but c’mon, the bathroom and bedroom???

A small ick of mine would be the lack of THE Johnny Storm and Fantastic 4 in the show. We had THE Thing, aka Ben Grimm, and freaking HERBIE, A FREAKING ROBOT FROM THE GROUP AND YET THEY DONT GIVE US JOHNNY STORM😭😭😭

I would KILLL for Johnny and Spider-Man to appear together and have an episode together to see them interact. Spider-Man would’ve geeked out with Reed Richards, he would have a pure sisterly relationship with Sue Storm. I was just soo disappointed😭😭

And to top it off, the main MAIN complaint of the show would be Spider-Man himself and how the writers handles him.

Aside from his fourth wall breaks and humour being annoying to me, his voice was slightly annoying😅. I would blame it on the direction of the writing since Drake Bell voicing Peter Parker in The Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes was very well done, he was given a proper script in that show but in usm, he just…was eh. I gotten used to his voice in the show but it’s not my favorite, I usually prefer Josh Keaton from Spectacular Spider-Man or Yuri from the PS4/5 Spider-Man games voices when I write Peter in my fics.

I very much hate how a ton of Peter’s struggles were stripped away. Such as balancing school and Spider-Man, his grades dropping, his relationship with Aunt May, finding a job to support him and his aunt, how his relationship affects not just Harry but to MJ as well.

In the show, nearly everything was solved for him. He doesn’t stress about school and his grades cuz SHIELD is now taking care of that issue for him. He doesn’t worry about a strained relationship with his aunt since Aunt May is already working alll day and can sneak out easily without her knowing so no stress about curfews. Apparently money isn’t an issue in his life despite living in a 2-story house in Queens, New York that expects the yearly income to live there being over $44k(got that from GOOGLE 💀). Peter not interacting that much with Mary Jane is odd since apparently they knew each other for years, much longer than Harry, and yet Peter interacts and prioritizes Harry more than MJ throughout the seasons.

It honestly just feels as if the Peter Parker life is slowly being stripped away by his Spider-Man alter ego. There’s more Spider-Man struggles than Peter Parker struggles and it gets even worse in the last season with the SHIELD Academy since its JUST Spider-Man in the season. He eats, sleeps, and most likely showers and poops with the costume on💀.

The entire point of Spider-Man is maturity. He’s a kid forced to grow up into an adult after Uncle Ben died with Aunt May being the only one in his life to protect and support. The show just took away that struggle from Peter and it was just extremely disappointing to not explore Peter’s life. They focused more on having Spider-Man being a cool character than focusing on how cool Peter is as a person aside from being Spider-Man.

This show has a soft spot in my heart. I grew up with the show and introduced me to characters like Iron Fist and White Tiger but the premise wasn’t well handled.

[imperiuswrecked]

What do you think of the rumors about them potentially setting out Pietro x Monet and Wanda x Loki relationships. There are some really fun potential interaction there if the writers do go there but it's a bit of a shame how Wanda x Jericho and Pietro x Emily have basically been wiped from exsistance.

I'm also so happy to have Quicksilver in a book again (though sad his darker colouring from recent comics have disappeared)

I ship Pietro/Emily & Wanda/Jericho very much and always will. Marvel doesn't have the best teack record when it comes to poc relationships in comics so it was really nice to see the twins have something.

I don't think Wanda/Loki will last but it could be fun, I don't expect any comic relationship to last forever unless it's Reed/Sue. I am interested in Pietro/Monet but it's a pairing I would have never thought of on my own. I'm just worried it's gonna be another barely there relationship like in the past. Even Emily barely had any time with Pietro.

I think if Marvel actually put effort into the twins having well written romance relationships then it might kill them. Either way seeing Pietro again is something I'm anxiously awaiting. Though I'm very behind on my Wanda reading and need to catch up later.

Pietro & Wanda's skin tone in comics has always been a neglected subject and while I know there are white passing Romani people and having characters like that is important I also really loved the twins having brown skin tones in the recent comic appearances. I wish Marvel actually cared about keeping on top of colorists and giving every colorist a rule book of skin tones for characters but Marvel rarely gives support to their artists. And yes I am blaming editorial for this because most of the time artists & colorists don't know everything about a character and are overworked.