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the depths of humiliation kink play on this show are truly incomprehensible. why are they like this.
#not to rpf but. there is soemthing to the greg and alex dynamic#the subversion of the comedy. it's so good.#i love you taskmaster#'can i use the word that we use' 'yeah use our word' 'it looks like josh's nub' 'nub'#KILLED ME#taskmaster#taskmaster coc
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Man. The Phillies are fucking KILLING the Dodgers right now… Need a good video to eat my pizza to… Wait just a second…
DOGS IN LOVE 3 CAME OUT??!!
For those that have no context, this sentence means nothing to you. And yet, it has all the meaning to me. Dogs in Love is a series, now officially a trilogy, on the JelloApocalypse channel. If you know him, cool! If you don’t know him, he’s a variety YouTuber best characterized by the art and opinions in his videos, although this doesn’t describe all of his videos. His best known series are probably his Welcome to, So This Is Basically, and Marathon Reviews series. He’ll at the same time also play various video games, drink a lot of lemonade, and play an eBay edition of The Price Is Right with his friends. He even has like a little show on his YouTube channel called Epithet Erased! I need to actually watch that sometime… Oh, and yeah, he does good voice acting work!
So, what is Dogs in Love? Basically, they are edited highlight videos with a lot of drawings of Jello and his friends taking the lore of Pokémon Colloseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness and throwing it out of the window during playthroughs for those games, with the group instead deciding to take the characters (Both the Pokémon and the humans) and playing with them like Barbie dolls and action figures.
The original Dogs in Love video focuses on Pokémon Coliseum, following the player trainer and his terrorist Pokémon, with the main focus around a edgy Umbreon who actually turns out to be a dumbo softboy and his partner Espeon who is smart and stressed out of his mind and needs more coffee. As you can guess, they are the dogs in love. In Dogs in Love 2 and 3, both of them focus on Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, with the logical tie in between the two games being that the Jolteon the player trainer has is the sweet and kind demonic child of the two dads of Umbreon and Espeon. Yeah. That’s just the tip of the iceberg.
I cannot fully explain the humor of it for myself. The voice acting as well as the improv comedy done by Jello and his friends makes the whole experience dumb, weird, and hilarious in a brilliant way. The dynamics and relationships of all of the characters are comedically sound, and yet, I feel genuine emotion for all of them. It knows exactly where to scratch my back when I have an itch. And, the thing is, the waits between each of these videos was about a year! Sure, the full streams are right there, but it’s hard because the videos are so good. (I rewatched both videos at my older sister’s wedding!) However, it’s worth the wait, and the videos show that the excellence needed time to cook. Dogs in Love has meant so much to me, but with the trilogy now completed, I look back at these three videos in marvel and with love.
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#jelloapocalypse#dogs in love#dogs in love 2#dogs in love 3#pokémon colosseum#pokemon colosseum#pokémon xd#pokemon xd#listen. they can do whatever they want. they name a character crap gorps and genuinely it’s not that abnormal and he fits right in#i think a lot of the comedy can be defined as being abnormal and subversive and like that might scare you off but the jokes are fantastic#man… the phillies still did beat the dodgers’ asses 1-10 in citizens bank park… ah whatever funny pokémon trilogy conclusion video exists#Youtube
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a clear case of male characters' writing suffering badly because of heterosexism and misogyny is quark & julian & worf's interactions. they are very limited and out of those, many (if not most, but I'm not certain enough to make that statement) revolve around them pining for, competing for and being jealous of each other over dax. it's so fucking boring. dare I say... men's relationships with each other shouldn't revolve around women they're chasing after... it reduces the woman to an object of a man's affection and the men to drones dutifully carrying out their preordained purpose: to win themselves a mate.
#ds9#🫀#it's not like this plot never works but it's a very particular and limited perspective#and so the ways you can make such a plot work well are quite limited#imo there are brilliant screwball comedies that obv have in their basis patriarchal ideas about the relationships between men and women#and some moments between worf and jadzia are very. hm. heteronormative but also very screwball-like and that's why they work for me#but in the case of worf julian and quark it never reaches the same hights of humour or absurdity or delight in subversion#so it's just patriarchal with nothing else to offer
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the story has no real reason to take us to veritas prime but i hope it does solely because it would be funny if everyone, characters in-universe included, assumes ratio's clothing is indicative of the style of his homeworld, but when we get there it turns out everyone wears togas.
and ONLY togas.
ratio's skimpy black underlayer is comparatively covered up like a Victorian widow in mourning. the boob window is actually stuffy and conservative, everyone else is running around with at least one tit fully out at all times. they think he's the weird one for wearing pants. it would serve no narrative purpose whatsoever but it would entertain me greatly
#what can i say i love me a good low-stakes subversion of expectations. especially if it's retroactive. comedy gold ✨#it's why i also hc ratio's family as boring normies with no particular tradition in academia#bc it's funniest to me personally if he's (and PLEASE forgive the comparison) the sheldon cooper of his family#the rest of them are Just Some Guys. he's the only lil freak graduating uni at age 15 wearing sweater vests & pocket protectors#it's not that his family or even veritas prime embodies the akademia of classical antiquity it's just him. he's just Like That#hsr#hsr meta#ratio#(this is barely meta but that's my tag for it lol)
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I’m so glad Caldwell finally went on Dirty Laundry because he consistently makes the funniest choice possible and this was no different.
#I laughed so hard my stomach hurt when he admitted to the secret before Trapp could give an answer#rule subversion for comedy at its finest#his Pokémon story was also hysterical and great riffing material#great episode#dirty laundry#dropout#caldwell tanner#excuse me: Hugh Caldwell Tanner
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not replying to this person directly because im not about to get into social media debates about hazbin hotel of all things but im just completely puzzled by the idea that this show is in any way Too Edgy For TV in an era where. as many have pointed out before me. south park (curse its soul) has been airing on mainstream american cable television for going on 27 years
#Adult Animated Edgy Comedy has been a thing in pop culture for longer than i have been alive#so what does 'for the time' mean. are the subversive elements the fact that its trying to be like a disney channel cartoon as well#very confusing all around#manifesting spiders
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Low self esteem jokes are getting really old. Comedy is subjective but what can make a joke funny is it being unexpected. At this point it's more surprising to have a high self esteem so therefore it would be funnier to joke about that.
#low self worth#low self confidence#low self image#low self everything#comedy#subjective#subjectivity#jokes#unexpected#at this point#surprising#so therefore#therefore#but this is funnier#done with this shit#subverting expectations#subversive#subversion#analyzer#analysis#analytical thinking#observant#innovation#self awareness#random thoughts#thoughts#my thoughts#punchline#confidence boost#confidence
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I read Hot Fuzz not as copaganda but as a rather overt condemnation of the vigilante cop trope and the very messed up damage people can inflict on an entire community when given unlimited authority.
The whole "break a bunch of laws for the greater good" thing is explicitly stabbed at, mocked and ultimately condemned as the central villains are revealed to have the pettiest motives for murdering random people.
The police chief was like Dirty Harry on steroids with a bloody cult on his side that needn't be held accountable for anything.
The main character Nicholas Angel grew up feeling lied to about people's supposed noble intentions, and lies were what kept true justice at bay in Sandford until an abused, neglected son decided to hold his dad accountable regardless of the consequences for himself.
Parental abuse, country bigotry, purposeful deceit and misdirection by authority figures, blind hatred and the impulses that followed.
These are not subtly hinted at, these are front and centre in Edgar Wright's Hot Fuzz.
To think it was a film from 2007, too.
Also David Bradley was funny as hell.
#hot fuzz#edgar wright#simon pegg#nick frost#jim broadbent#copaganda#subversion#racism#comedy#drama#abuse
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NOOOOOOOOO (I get so annoyed my head explodes)
#first of all you mean subversive second of all Nanette is borrrring#the thing is is that some people definitely do find catharsis thro comedy idk why since one person can’t it’s turned into a whole thing.#but good for them I guess for uh ‘quitting standup’ LOL
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Finally, a story where the problems occur because the girl doesn’t appropriately deal with her feelings of sexual attraction, misinterpreting them and turning to aggression.
#nerdy prudes must die has so many layers of subversion#esp in a horror-tropey way#and so many of them focus on grace chastity#she doesn’t know how to deal w her feelings and attraction and so she turns them to aggression and gets people killed#she’s a final girl who survives by having sex#‘she just needs to have sex and she’ll loosen up’ nope!#she has sex and has a good time and saves the day and she’s really badass about it#but she in no way is less uptight. she returns to being unhinged#more so in fact#seriously npmd is such a fun eighties-riffing horror comedy#npmd#nerdy prudes must die#starkid#my post#grace chasity
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I truly seriously love the seinfeld finale the way it's set up as a traditional sitcom ending where certain characters experience a big change and say these big goodbyes as they go on to new exciting things and leave behind this chapter of their lives.... and then they just. all end up in fucking prison <3
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if i had a nickel for every time a male british comedian i like said that on a childhood birthday a patriarch in their family said they were too old to hug and kiss them bc it's girly/gay i would have two nickels???? which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice....
(ade edmondson:)
(jon richardson:)
I went to kiss my granddad once-I would have only been about 7 or 8, but I'd had clearly what my grandad viewed as a landmark birthday. I went to say goodbye, and I kissed my Nana Gwen and went to kiss my Grandad Ron, and Grandad Ron said, "You're a man now. You don't kiss other men anymore." (- meet the richardsons 2.08)
#i think (popular) british comedys relationship with masculinity is sooo interesting bc there will be like you know#kind of old schoolish jokes said on panel shows about like oh that person isnt manly or something#but at the same time many british male comedians seem comfortable with material involving doing things that arent very traditionally#masculine like physical intimacy with men or dressing up traditionally feminine etc#(which isnt them trying to do a Statement or anything just like them doing it)#thats kind of like a staple of british comedy i feel like#more so than american comedy#i feel like its#an interesting interplay between (obviously trying to be subversive like all comedy but also) echos from the alt comedy scene#(which was expressly trying to NOT depend on sexism for humor (like the traditional comedy of working mens clubs))#and the inescapable sexism of general culture still affecting comedy and also men's lives today (repressed as hell)#and like the jokes about masculinity are obviously a reaction (unconscious or not) TO being so repressed#britcom#nina.rambles#adrian edmondson#jon richardson#tw abuse#does this make sense? no<3#ALSOOOO that interview with ade is everything to me. hes the cutest man in the world actually. he cried when his grandson#said “good job everyone!” as he got 2nd place in a race (out of happiness). and then cried while talking about it. and he grew up in such a#repressed era#WE LOVE TO SEE GROWTH!!
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Ok so just throwing this joke out there, cuz I'm going to forget before my alergist appointment.
Ugh. I don't know how I'm gonna flirt now. The alergist said I'm alergic to bananas ;-;
Now you say "what do you mean? @Glngrbred were you just eating bananas in public and staring at people?"
yes.
ok, thank you for your time
#jokes#joke#comedy#funny#this is meant to be funny because its obviously not a good joke but is instead a subversion of your expectations#allergies#actually allergic to bananas#actually audhd
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“Comedy is a serious business. The romanticised view of the court jester, uniquely licensed to speak truth to power and evade the executioner’s axe, doesn’t quite do justice to the risks involved in making genuinely subversive jokes.
With pressure mounting on comedians to reinforce the creed of the new puritanism, to propagandise as they play the clown, it will be interesting to see how the art form develops.
For all the moral panic over ‘hate speech’, the misinterpretations of acerbic humour as ‘bullying’, and the literal-mindedness of those who fail to appreciate the inherent theatricality of stand-up, there is every reason to feel optimistic.
The best comedians have rarely been inclined to work within the parameters of those in authority. Even if the comedy industry achieves its longed-for ‘woke world’, there will always be a few mischief-makers hankering for the next revolution.”
-- Andrew Doyle, “The New Puritans”
If you want to identify who wields the power and authority of the throne, simply figure out who wants to silence the jesters.
#Andrew Doyle#The New Puritans#comedy#comedians#court jester#truth to power#subversive#religion is a mental illness
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Thanks for the laughs, Tommy Smothers.
Comedian and musician Tommy Smothers, half of The Smothers Brothers, has died at 86.
New York Times story about his passing.
Most of you here have never heard of he and his brother, or their act. But they were hugely famous in the 60s. And, despite appearances, they were subversive.
They had a variety show on CBS, The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour (variety shows were big then). Tommy played the scattered, supposedly stupid brother, and Dick was the serious, stiff one. They sang folk songs (also very big then), often with Tommy messing up the lyrics or adding his own. Their shtick was Dick trying to rein in Tommy.
Doesn't sound like much, but this was during the Vietnam War. CBS warned the comedians not to comment or criticize the war. But they did. They were told not to have folk singer Pete Seeger on to sing his anti-war song "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy." But they did. So CBS canceled their show.
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During the 60th Emmy Awards Tommy talked about being censored, which is very topical right now.
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A bit about how subversive they were.
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They were part of my childhood and growing up. Their comedy made me think.
Hail and farewell, Tommy Smothers.
#Tommy Smothers#The Smothers Brother#The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour#comedy#satire#parody#funny#subversive#censorship#60s TV#1960s#Vietnam War#protest songs#Youtube
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Instead of My Little Pony, which is a masterpiece well deserving of its fame and popularity among young and old, how about the subversive interest of your hyper-masculine, emo, or just generally not concerned with “frivolous” or “girly” things character is some absolute dogtrash show that nobody likes. Like the Rainbow High webseries.
#in my mind it is so much funnier. Like everyone likes MLP it’s genuinely a good show.#now what if your character is hypermasculine or emo or only concerned with serious smart things and you find out#that they’re really into this stupid terribly made show with zero redeeming qualities#like. “You decided to be subversive… and you chose THAT???”#oh. Comedy !#my little pony#rainbow high#really what made me think of this is Damian Wayne being really into the Rainbow High webseries#ack#text post
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