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Just throwing this out there. Power to weight ratio is a real thing. Even my 98 LGT wagon is probably closer to the GC/GF Impreza's highest weight after a ton of weight reduction and weighs less than any modern Impreza past '02. Honestly hate how huge the Impreza, Forester and Legacy/Outback got over the years after the GD/BD & GG/BG/BK/SG chassis.
Surprisingly the newer Impreza (STI version) isn't crazy heavier but still heavier and bigger nonetheless. Why only sedans?! No more Impreza WRX/STI hatch only the lifted ass Crosstrek?
I mean look how massive my friends 2020 Outback XT looks compared to my 98. It's like a foot taller and longer. Ground clearance of a truck but we can't get a Subaru truck, cool. Why no more car height Legacy wagons? Not to mention they created huge blinds spots with the stupid D pillars and tiny rear quarter glass compared to the full "paranaramic view" of the 98, I have like zero blind spots.
+20 year juxtaposition.
Why did we get the ridiculously massive (+2 tons) and cartoonish Ascent? No 2-4 door ute or truck? No awd coupe? No more Impreza STI/WRX hatch, only Crosstreks? No more Legacy wagons, only Outbacks? Oh but hey Subaru (only with Toyota) did give us the 2 door BRZ. That is only RWD and no turbo option? Lame. This gripe may be partially due to my location, US.
Anyways, rant over. Bigger is not always better and more HP's don't always equal faster when you weigh hundreds of pounds more than the other dude, me? 🙃 Have fun driving your 2 ton turbro bricks.
#subaru#comparison#weight reduction#curb weight#gc8#bg5#impreza#forester#legacy#subie#thoughts#sti#wrx#modified cars
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BNHA X Cars
KaminariSo, this is basically BNHA Street racer AU. But to be more precise I’m picking the cars for the characters from BNHA. Because cars have characteristic, it has personality and it describes you as a person. Not just based from the body but the engines and the car as whole. So, this is my pick of cars for the character of BNHA
Part 1 For the boys
I’m going to divide it into 2 cars. One is for daily drive/Sports car and the other is The Supercar. The Sports car will describe them as characters individuals. While the Supercar will describe their full potentials.
Midoriya Izuku
Midoriya Izuku, The protagonist of the Anime. He is too good of a boy to mess around street Racing. The Color for his car is obviously Green, in that case I Recommend Him.
Sport car/ Daily Drive:
The Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX.
To be more specific. It is Brian’s First car In the Fast and the furious franchise (R.I.P Paul Walker). This car is one of the Tuners favorite car to modify. It is run by 4G63 Engine, it is the same Engine that run an EVO F*CKING LANCER which is one of the finest cars that has been made on earth (Minus the Turbo). So it plays well with the whole inheritance thing with All Might.
Supercar:
For the supercar, I would Recommend McLaren 675LT
This car Look Great In green. The whole characteristic of this car reminds me of Midoriya. This car shown how it can blend to the society, how it was able to move fast and aggressively while at the same time maintaining Elegance. This car looked slim, but its performance is something else 3.8 L V8 Twin Turbo Rear Wheel Drive (RWD) Gives the ability for the driver to drive like a maniac. The car produces more or less 675 Horsepower (Just like its name) and can go to 0-100 Km in 2.9 Seconds and a top speed with 330 Km/h (205 Mph).
Bakugo Katsuki
For Bakugo, His car has to be loud and Fast! He needs a car that’s intimidating. For the color I’m Thinking Red, Yellow or Black. But since the car need to look Antagonizing, I’m going with black. So, the car that I propose.
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
Dodge Charger SRT Hell Cat 2015
This car is a 6.2L Hemi V8 Supercharged. The roars in this car is nothing short. This car is for sure is Intimidating. The roar of the engine is equivalent to Bakugo’s Roar of explosive anger. I was considering the newer one like the SRT Redeye Hellcat or even The Demon. But the demons is more of the inner demon screaming trying to get out. It needed a Rumbling sound of the V8, The insane roar that is deafening.
Supercar:
For the Supercar, it is very difficult. I can choose Hyper cars but they just felt a bit too well mannered compared to Bakugo. But I’ve given a lot of thought and the only car that fits is This
Pagani Zonda R
This car is basically an f1 with a two-seater and a roof. This bad boy is a track only car. So, it is “Street Illegal!!” But that won’t stop Bakugo for using this beauty. This car on high rev speaks will be all the explanation needed on the reason why I chose this car. A car with 700 BHP and only weight 1,070 Kg (In comparison Ford focus weight 1,471 Kg) Which is like a feather.
Todoroki Shoto
For Todoroki His car has to be cool, matured and Luxurious but also High performance. I’m a bit mixed up with the colors Whether I should make it blue or white or red. But since I cant decide I leave it in the ‘Grey’ area. Get it? Ill just get on with it.
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
Aston Martin DB11
Aston Martin is well known on it’s Luxury and History. Which fits Todoroki’s Prince aura/Characteristics. The performance is also nothing short, Aston Martin is also well known to make a brilliant Engine for racing. A twin turbocharged V12 Produce 600 BHP with a top speed 201Km/h (125Mph).
Supercar
For the Super car, I think Lamborghini Huracan Performante.
It is a naturally aspirated 5.2L V10 Engine AWD. This car has a fierce fiery engine on its car but still has that cool matured Body. And the ALA (Aerodinamica Lamborghini Attiva) Is brilliant. It is an active Aerodynamic system that allows the car to go faster.
Tenya Iida:
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
Is the Brabus 800 GT 63s
This car is perfect fot Iida, It has a look in which my friend quote “Sophisticated Look”. And Mind you this car is probably The Fastest Car! For the sport/daily drive Car compare than anyone else in the list. This car packs a crazy 800 BHP and that’s says it all
Supercar:
The fastest Car In the world! In 2010. The specific look that I would like to go is Drift From Transformer: Age Of Extinction. That Blue Lining is perfect for Iida. For some people engines might be boring, But this car have the power of 1200 Horses in it
Kirishima Eijiro
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
The car that this Manly man need to go with is the 2020 Mustang Shelby GT500.
The Engine has a named called the “Predator” V8 Engine. 750 BHP is nothing short and the roar from within is on par with Bakugo’s SRT Hellcat.
Supercar:
I was having second thought of choosing this car. But whenever I think of Kirishima in a car, This car always pops into my head
Lamborghini Adventador SV. This car Looked manly and menacing. Why I thought about this car, is that it associated it self with a bull in which Kirishima and this car can relate to. A loud V12 Engine roars loud and deep in a intimidating voice and its perfect.
Sero Hanta
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
For Sero the car has to be traditional but still a good car nonetheless. So I pick A classic Porsche 911 turbo 1982.
It is a classic sports car, It is tunable which make the car run fast.
Supercar:
Ferrari 458 Italia
This car is a normal Aspirated V8 with a high rev engine. It creates something Revolutionary From something traditional.
Kaminari Denki
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
It has to be the SUPRA!!!!!!
This car is definitely a meme, it fits with Kaminari Personality. Seeing them is like “WTH ARE YOU DOING?!” Because both Kaminari and the car would do something ridiculously stupid.
Supercar:
For the Supercar I Would say The Lexus LFA
Lexus is one of the Artistic Legacy of the JDM Cars. It is one of the legendary Supercar that ever existed. The Normal aspirated V10 Sounded like Pure Thunder striking down on the earth. Sound menacing and amazing. It fits for Kaminari Racing Persona (Or even his villain Persona).
Mashirao Ojiro
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
Ojiro is a traditional Japanese person, So his car has to be totally Japanese. My pick have to be The S30 Fairlady Z.
To be exact the RB26 Swapped Fairlady Z from Sung Kang (Han’s Actor car from “Fast and Furious”) And that’s all I need to say about this car.
Supercar:
For the Supercar It has to be the last piece of The JDM Legend. It is The GTR R35 NISMO.
This car is perfect for Ojiro, They both are the Representative Character of Japan.
Tokoyami Fumikage
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
Blackbird 370 z
For me it’s a no Brainer. This car was featured as the Replacement of Blackbird in wangan Midnight When they aren’t allowed to use the Porsche. The slick Headlight and the whole body look is the description of Tokoyami Dark Shadow
Supercar:
Mclaren MP4-12C
That Describes Tokoyami as a whole. One of the best car that ever created in history that changes the whole world. With the black fierce look, This car looks like a shark that flies on land.
Sato Rikido
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
Sato is a muscular guy. So His sports car is definitely a Muscle Car. But It seems I have a trouble in finding it, It has to be a classic but not too old. In that reason I recommend Saleen s281 2000
It has that sporty look but still have the Muscle car Essence and history
Supercar:
For the Supercar It has to be The Corvette C8.R
This car is a new take to American cars. It is a Incredible move from the American automotive Industries.
Koda Koji
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
For Koda He is definetly a good Boy so hew probably uses a 4-door car. For instance The Subaru WRX STI 2016.
It doesn't seems Menacing but it still can move around well and when it drives, it definetly drives well.
Supercar:
For the Supercar it is definetly a NSX-R 1992 Tuned with a Rocket Bunny Body Kit.
Koda is definitely a Honda city boi. From the name itself, I am 100% it fits with Koda. Back in the day if you want a Ferrari but you can’t afford one. You’ll buy an NSX.
Shoji Mezo
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
For Shoji I think Ford’s Trophy truck.
A friend of mine said that Shoji, is the kind of guy who would drive a van for daily basis (So I guessed it has to be an American Car). But to me, Shoji is the Kind of guy that likes to get Dirt under his wheels. And I'm pretty sure Shoji is the kind of kid that doesn’t Mind flying in the car on daily basis.
Supercar:
For the Supercar I propose, Ford Gt.
It is well planted and the car is very wide. Fitting to describes Shoji’s ‘Arms’. Although it might not have similarities with his daily car, But this car is all I could think of.
Aoyama Yuga
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
For the Daily Drive, it is obviously something Luxurious, Something High class Like Bentley GT 2019. The V8 Version.
It is a confiscated yet sporty look in a car, It looked like as if he stands out compares to the other Luxury Cars
Supercar:
For the Supercar, It has to be describe as “Noblesse oblige” And the Car that fits the most is Noble M600.
It is a Supercar with all the classic features. It is a RWD Manual Transmission Car, a twin turbocharged 4L V8. Packs 640 BHP 0-60 in 3.1 Second.
Mineta Minoru
Sport Car/ Daily Drive:
It’s the Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GTS
Basically, this car is the Japanese Equivalent To pimp rides. Even though This car is featured in The Fast and The Furious, It is just a now show car. Compared the old one, This version is a slower and much more difficult to Modify. But it is still a nice car and fun to drive with, and it is a popular car in the car culture.
Supercar:
For Mineta The Supercar might be really difficult. So in the end I just came up with the Villain version. (Inspired by ‘Nadaboodraws’ Villain Mineta on Instagram) I came up with this
It is the Audi R8, It is one of the best Affordable Supercar you can get in the world. It is 4wd But it is still an aggressive car with a mean Look.
Okay that’s all I can give for this part. For the next one will be the girls of class 1-A. If you have different opinion let me know, I would love to hear all of your thoughts and if you use my list you can go ahead and use it (But please do tell me, because hearing it will be my vindication and that would make me really happy). Anyway, thank you for reading until this far.
#BNHA#MHA#Boku No Hero#My Hero Academia#Midoriya Izuku#Bakugo Katsuki#Todoroki Shoto#Tenya Ida#Kirishima Eijiro#Sero Hanta#Kaminari Denki#Mashirao Ojiro#Tokoyami Fumikage#Sato Rikido#Koda Koji#Shoji Mezo#Aoyama Yuga#Mineta Minoru#street racer au#Street Racer#Racers au#Racing#au#Cars#European#JDM#American Muscles
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2020 Subaru WRX and WRX STI Rumors and Specification
2020 Subaru WRX and WRX STI Rumors and Specification
2020 Subaru WRX and WRX STI Rumors and Specification– The Subaru’s following Tokyo Show collection includes the 2020 Subaru WRX and WRX STI according to the Viziv Concept. Ostensibly, the upcoming Tokyo Motor Show is centered on the those who are sentimental about the glowing epoch of Japanese performance vehicles. Rumours of Nissan Z and Mazda rotaries are currently rife, and today Subaru jumps…
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Car & Driver 2019 10Best "Inadequacies:" Quick blurbs on the cars that didn't make the 10Best list this year via /r/cars
Car & Driver 2019 10Best "Inadequacies:" Quick blurbs on the cars that didn't make the 10Best list this year
In the print edition of Car & Driver, January, 2019, they dove into the year's 10Best cars list. They also had a small section in the margins of the 10Best feature called "Inadequacies." In this section, they gave a quote for each car that was up for 10Best contention, but didn't make it, briefly summarizing its shortcomings. Lots of interesting insight, if you ask me! Remember that Car & Driver has a full set of tests they run to select their 10Best cars, many of them on a track, so it's not just a group of editors sitting in a room and picking which ones they like best. So, here they are:
Audi A6: "Way more luxury than sport here."
Audi A7: "It's like Audi tried to make a Tesla Model S out of a gas-powered car. Needs more sound and fury. But I guess that's what the S7 is for."
Audi RS5: "The RS5 used to have a howling V-8 and gobs of personality. This one feels sedate in comparison."
BMW i3s: "Even in its marginally sportier guise, the BMW i3 continues to be as far as you can get from the experience of driving a car while still driving a car."
BMW 640i xDrive GT: "Drives like a hockey arena."
Buick Regal GS: "The name vastly oversells its performance."
Buick Regal TourX: "Less than the sum of its parts, attractive though they are."
Honda Clarity PHEV: "As far as the effort to remove all sensory traces of dynamic motivational activity under the hood goes, this thing is a champ. The ultimate anodyne driving experience."
Honda Insight: "What to buy when you really want a Prius but can't bear to look at one."
Hyundai Accent: "There's an awful lot of competence here for the money. Not necessarily much joy but an awful lot of competence."
Hyundai Veloster: "The N splits the difference between a VW GTI and a Civic Type R without being better than either. And like all Velosters, this one is still burdened by its economy-car ethos and weird design."
Jaguar XF Sportbrake: "It's handsome as all get-out, but the interior isn't as nice as it should be, the powertrain is not as refined as it should be, and the chassis isn't as fun as it should be."
Kia Forte: "Manages the strange trick of looking cheaper than it actually is."
Lexus ES/Hybrid: "Was the dashboard designed to win a bet? It is more terraformed than styled, with various vintages of switchgear and instruments."
Lexus LS: "I'm startled by how removed from the driving experience this car has become. Like changing lanes from your bed."
Mazda 6 2.5T: "Very refined but doesn't feel sharp. This has me worried that Mazda is starting to walk away from sportiness in favor of luxury."
Mercedes-Benz C-Class: "Much improved but still not as satisfying as the E-class."
Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class: "No longer better looking or handier than the E-class, so I fail to see the point."
Nissan Altima: "Rental-car desk agents should see a dramatic decrease in arguments with disgruntled customers."
Nissan Leaf: "A car that is crying out for automation to remove the irksome requirement to operate it."
Porsche Panamera: "Breaks Porsche's rule of functional design. Who thought that air vents that can have their direction changed only through a touchscreen was a good idea?"
Subaru WRX STI Type RA: "A relic from Subaru's Brutalist period, it's the antithesis of what 96 percent of its customer base values: It's loud, harsh, and busy. It's also incredibly fun, especially on gravel."
Toyota Avalon/Hybrid: "It exists for cruising the mega-slab, but there are no interstates on the 10Best loop."
Toyota Corolla Hatchback: "Good enough to make the 10Best list -- in 2008."
Volkswagen Jetta: "If the Golf is the sibling that lives in the suburbs, pulling down good scratch and maxing out its 401(k), the Jetta is the poor relation sheltering under a cardboard box at the bus station."
To clarify, there were a couple other vehicles that didn't make the list, but were close enough that their acknowledgements were less... mean. The Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio was well-loved by nearly everyone, but had so many issues that needed to be serviced when they had one long term, it was basically out of the running. The Tesla Model 3 Performance did very well too, but since it starts at nearly $80k, it was very hard to justify its value vs competitors. The Audi RS3 was on the 10Best list last year, but this year there was no way they were picking it over the M2 Competition, which has better performance and an improved ride vs its non-Competition predecessor, leaving C&D to look at the RS3 less as a threat and more as "a really expensive, really powerful VW Golf with a really small trunk." Harsh words. The Kia Stinger GT almost made the list last year, and the Kia Stinger 2.0T almost made it this year, but the Genesis G70 better captured the hearts of the C&D editors. The Camaro was bumped from the list by the newly-refreshed Mustang, not necessarily because the Mustang is the clear winner, but because Chevy's 2019 "refresh" of the Camaro gave each trim a new grille and not much else, preserving issues with livability in the cabin in the name of exterior design. And finally, Dodge brought some Challengers to the 10Best competition, for the third time in five years, but all they've done each time was add more power to a car that hasn't been fully redesigned in about 10 years.
Finally, here's a reminder of the 10 cars that did win this year:
BMW M2 Competition
Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport/Z06
Ford Mustang GT/Bullitt
Genesis G70
Honda Accord
Honda Civic Sport/Si/Type R
Mazda MX-5 Miata/RF
Mercedes-Benz E450/AMG E53
Porsche 718 Boxster/Cayman
Volkswagen Golf Family
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2020 Subaru WRX STI Series.White vs. BMW 228i Gran Coupe: Is Luxury Worth It?
The point behind these “Is Luxury Worth it?” tests, where we pit loaded mainstream-branded cars versus fairly base-model luxury rides, reaches a strange plateau with this particular matchup. Odd couple? You betcha.
Representing value (in a way) is the 2020 Subaru WRX STI with the Series.White package. In the luxury corner is the 2020 BMW 228i xDrive Gran Coupe. And before we get to the differences, we ought to talk about what’s similar enough to throw these cars into the ring together.
Both machines are powered by turbocharged four-cylinder engines. Both cars drive all four wheels, possess four doors, and seat five. The C-pillars, especially from a rear three-quarters view, look spookily similar. The BMW lacks its famed Hofmeister Kink—that small forward thrust down where the door or window frame meets the belt line. It’s meant to emphasize the rear-wheel drive that BMWs have had for more than 50 years—because being front-drive-based, what’s the point?
Both cars started life as less expensive vehicles—an Impreza in the case of the Subaru and a Mini Cooper (it’s true!) if you’re talking BMW. The base price of the Subaru is $37,895, whereas the base price of the BMW is $38,495. That’s pretty dang close.
Here’s where the two differ. The STI has a flat boxer engine. Aside from sounding different, flat engines lower a car’s center of gravity. The BMW’s engine is smaller—2.0 liters compared to the Subie’s 2.5 liters—and produces much less power: 228 horsepower compared to 310 for the STI, and 258 lb-ft of torque compared to Subaru’s 290.
Here’s where I’m going to point out that yes, there is a 301-hp/332-lb-ft BMW M235i xDrive GC, but it begins life at $46,495, before any options (and there are always options). That’s the tricky part with these comparisons. Something’s got to give.
The 228i comes with an eight-speed automatic transmission and has a permanent front to rear 50/50 torque split. When cruising requires minimal torque, the multiplate clutch disengages torque to the rear to save fuel, whereas when traction’s an issue, as when climbing a steep hill, that clutch closes and the rear wheels may receive all the torque. However, when the hammer’s down, no more than 50 percent of the engine’s peak torque is ever sent to either axle.
The Subaru is six-speed manual only and still features that trick center differential (called Driver Controlled Center Differential), which can be left in automatic mode where the computer figures out which axle needs the torque, phased for grip (+) so that the front axle gets more torque, or the opposite (-) so that the rear axles gets the majority of the twisting force. Alternatively, there are six manual modes that allow you to program where the torque goes.
The Series.White package adds $5,700 to the STI’s price. For that cash layout you get 19-inch forged aluminum BBS wheels, a reworked suspension with Bilstein dampers off the STI Type RA, groovy yet barely grooved Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires, and cloth Recaro seats. Option package 04 also nets you a black finish on the mirrors, badges, and shark fin, plus a red insert in the grille and silver brake calipers. Total as-tested price of this Series.White -equipped STI is $43,959.
The BMW’s big option is the $4,000 M package, which gives you sport steering, a rear spoiler, and some driver assist systems, among a few other things. Doesn’t seem like the greatest value add to me. There’s a much more feature-packed $3,050 Premium package, which includes seemingly everything and the kitchen sink (keyless entry, heated steering wheel and front seats, adaptive LED headlights, panoramic moonroof, head-up display, and so on). As-tested price for the 228i Gran Coupe is $48,495. tested price for the 228i Gran Coupe is $48,495.
My colleague and MotorTrend en Español managing editor, Miguel Cortina, joined me to figure out how to compare these two. We decided that because BMW still employs its Ultimate Driving Machine tagline and because the 228i has the M Sport package, taking the cars on a back road canyon drive was the right way to compare them. Plus, I live eight minutes from the bottom of Angeles Crest Highway, and I’m nothing if not a lazy man.
I’d taken the BMW home the evening before following a photoshoot (also up on Angeles Crest) and found it to be a pretty good little sport sedan. Also, the Subaru is old. That anachronism of an engine (EJ257) has been in use since the STI first arrived on American shores in 2004. Yeah, the road might favor the Subaru in theory, but this is a brand-new Bimmer, front-drive-based or not. We were in for a good fight. Things didn’t go exactly according to plan.
Here’s a sampling of my notes after my first run up in the STI: “Nice to get back to my roots! Yes, the STI is flawed. The suspension is under-damped, the steering is comically overboosted, the interior is Dodge quality (that’s bad), and it possesses the only flat-four I can think of that sounds worse than a Porsche 718. That said, what a perennial butt kicker of a hot hatch that’s actually a sedan because Subaru stupidly got rid of wagons! Grip and go, as someone more into brevity than I might proclaim. One of the few cars that’s as safe (to me) with the traction control fully off as on. Especially on these glorious tires!”
Miguel—who, full disclosure, is no Subaru fanboy—wrote this as his first impression: “Talk about paying tribute to the brand. The STI feels as close to a rally car as one can get. Its shape, size, and hard-to-drive manner are not really for me, but on a road like ACH, it really shows its strengths.”
Hard to drive? As our road test editor, Chris Walton, has said time and time again, the STI hates to launch. That biggish four-cylinder with the huge, old-school turbo is gutless below 3,000 rpm. Forget about smoothly launching away from a stop sign. You’re either mini-dropping the clutch into a few grand worth of revs, or you’re lurching around like a student driver. Terrible first-date car. However, once underway that ancient engine creates great forward thrust and is happy to obnoxiously buzz along at 6,000 rpm. As Miguel said, the Crest showed the STI’s good side.
As for the BMW 228i, here are my initial thoughts: “Pity about the tires. Bridgestone Turanzas. File those in the ‘never heard of ’em’ bin. This BMW was frustrating at first because I was trying to drive it like an all-wheel-drive car. Once I calmed down, paid attention to what I was feeling, and began driving it like a front-drive car, things improved drastically.”
Did Miguel concur? “I came to this test with the idea that the 2 Series felt sloppy, that it didn’t feel like a BMW at all. So when I started going up the mountain, I was surprised but not shocked by the lack of steering feel—even in Sport mode—from the BMW model that is supposed to attract young buyers. Would you really spend more than $40,000 to get into a ‘sport’ sedan that doesn’t deliver much excitement at the wheel?” That would be a “no” from Miguel.
My counterpoint, though, is that driving a front-driver that at times sends some of its torque to the rear wheels makes sense. Tire limited? You bet your lederhosen. Perhaps as a result, the Gran Coupe displayed lift-off oversteer. What that means is when you begin braking into a corner, give some steering input, and lift your foot from the throttle, the rear end begins to rotate on the car’s axis.
When this phenomenon happens in a Porsche 911 GT3, we auto scribe types praise the behavior to the moon. “The car anticipates your next move! It knows where you’re going before you do! Purity of movement!” And yes, lift-off oversteer is a useful device for getting a car turned with less steering input than usual. But do such superlatives apply to an entry-level BMW?
My mind wandered back to Ralph Nader’s opus, Unsafe At Any Speed, where he chastises my late friend, the legendary Denise McCluggage, for waxing poetic about the joys of oversteer vis-a-vis Chevy’s maligned Corvair. But as Nader points out, Denise raced against Stirling Moss and Fangio, and she dated Steve McQueen. She knows car control. Do you?
My point is that although I think lift-off oversteer is a hoot and a holler, most folks won’t. Miguel certainly did not: “The Bimmer tires showed little grip—when going uphill or downhill, I felt the car was fishtailing a little bit when I pressed the brakes.” See what I’m saying? Most people will translate lift-off oversteer into “something’s wrong.” That’s not a knock against Miguel. He was driving with the same mindset as most of you do.
Back to the Subaru. That silly, too-light steering is masterfully direct and allows you to squeeze everything available out of a given corner. Yes, you whittle on the wheel 10 times more than you do in most cars, but you like driving, don’t you? The slowest thing about the STI is me changing gears, as the part of my brain that controls my clutch foot has atrophied.
Can you just leave it in third gear and bop around at 6,500 rpm? Why not? In fact, Miguel did (almost) exactly that. “I kept the transmission in fourth gear most of the time,” he said. “With the redline set at 6,700 rpm, there was no reason for me to be downshifting or upshifting—the power was always there.”
As for that trick center differential, should you rock it all the way to as much RWD as possible, the STI behaves worse in corners. There just isn’t as much pull off an apex. I liked it best two clicks aft of center, giving me a modicum of RWD bias, but leaving it in auto is actually probably best and quickest. Still a nifty trick piece of tech all these years later, as well as a shocking counterpoint to the BMW’s fixed 50/50 split center diff.
I liked the way the 228i Gran Coupe’s suspension behaved; it handled the constant bumps and bruises of Angeles Crest much better than the Subaru did. Also, the BMW was impressively quick. I’m talking seat of my pants here, as we were unable to test these cars, but I never would have guessed the BMW had a 77-hp deficit to the Subie. Then again, BMW does have a habit of underrating its engines, especially the turbocharged ones.
My big gripes with the 228i were the vague steering and frankly poor brakes. If you’ve been following the overall pattern of car reviews for the last couple decades, you know the story is that BMWs used to possess some of the best steering in the business. Then they didn’t. Then some models had great steering (X6 M, inexplicably) and some didn’t (3 Series). Well, the newest, smallest Gran Coupe falls into the latter camp. In comfort mode the steering is sloppy and vague. Things get a bit better in Sport mode, but it’s average at best and not as good as the Subaru’s.
Miguel disliked the 228i’s brakes more than I did: “They don’t provide the bite that one would expect in a BMW. There were a couple of occasions where the brakes didn’t provide the stopping power that the car needed, causing me to slow down even more on my way down the mountain.” The 228i never felt dangerous to me, but it definitely contributed to a more cautious descent than I would have preferred. I’m thinking that for the cost of that $4,000 M Sport package, BMW could source some better brakes and tires. Doing so would radically help the otherwise pretty good car. Thing is, BMW should know this.
As I thought to how BMWs of yore would have handled Angeles Crest, my mind drifted to the late David E. Davis’s touchstone, head-unzipped review of the 1968 BMW 2002. His one story is credited with both defining American car criticism as we know it and launching BMW as a serious car company in the United States.
To quote David E., “To my way of thinking, the 2002 is one of modern civilization’s all-time best ways to get somewhere sitting down. It grabs you.” The 2020 228i Gran Coupe doesn’t grab you. It’s certainly not one of the all-time best anything. That is what guts enthusiasts so much about modern BMWs. The brand defined the butt-kicking sport sedan segment for decades. Then BMW turned its back on what made it so damn great. Sadly, the 228i Gran Coupe does nothing to disprove that narrative.
What about the Subaru? I’ve driven all the boy-racer models over the years: WRXs, STIs, the aforementioned Type RA, even the $65,000 (gulp) S209. I can tell you that the Series.White is the best of the bunch, hands-holding-vape-pens down. There’s a joy of driving baked into this car that’s utterly lacking from both this particular BMW and the rest of Subaru’s non-WRX product line.
Moreover, the STI was happy being an STI. Meaning it’s not trying to fool anybody. The BMW is a Mini. A BMW—despite what revisionist marketers might try to tell you—isn’t front-wheel-drive based. Therefore, the thing is a bit of an imposter. Yes, famously, a study was conducted that allows BMW to say that the majority of its customers don’t know the difference between front-wheel and rear-wheel drive, so it doesn’t matter what they do. That’s a cop-out. It’s also intellectually dishonest. If you’re going to put a BMW badge on a car, make it mean something.
Miguel unwittingly made this point for me in his Subaru notes: “There’s so much heritage in the development of this STI that it’s hard not to think of famous Subaru Rally cars when you’re driving it.” Not only true, but also, what sort of heritage does BMW expect you to ponder when you’re driving the 228i Gran Coupe? iDrive?
I’m up on a high horse, and who am I to lecture BMW on product planning? I get it. If I may go all comic book geek for a moment, I really do think that with the stewardship of great brands—and BMW is unquestionably a great brand—there comes great responsibility. People are paying extra for that badge; you had better back it up.
Back to the David E. screed for a moment: 1968 was basically the crest of American dominance of the luxury car market. Starting in the 1970s, Cadillacs, Lincolns, and Chryslers all became fat, ungainly shadows of their former fly selves. Germans began their conquest then, and although the Japanese put up a good fight in the late ’80s and ’90s, German cars today define luxury cars more than any others.
The way this comparison should end is something like, “Although the BMW does cost more than the big-winged rally car, it’s worth it.” I can’t say that. I can’t even come close to calling this one a tie. The Subaru WRX STI Series.White beat the BMW 228i Gran Coupe up and down the mountain. Convincingly.
It’s an upset of a victory, but one that will maybe upset the right people in Bavaria. I’d love to do this comparison again in a few years and see a drastically different outcome. Don’t forget, Subaru does have a new STI on the way. Your ball, your court, BMW.
Get the Subaru if you Want the better driver’s car Love big wings Want a great value Get the BMW if you Crave a BMW badge Like intuitive infotainment Can’t drive stick
2020 BMW 228i xDrive Gran Coupe 2020 Subaru WRX STI BASE/AS-TESTED PRICE $38,495/$48,495 $37,895/$43,959 LAYOUT Front-engine, AWD, 5-pass, 4-door sedan Front-engine, AWD, 5-pass, 4-door sedan ENGINE 2.0L/228-hp/258-lb-ft turbo DOHC 16-valve I-4 2.5L/310-hp/290-lb-ft turbo DOHC 16-valve flat-4 TRANSMISSION 8-speed auto 6-speed manual CURB WEIGHT 3,650 lb (MT est) 3,399 lb (60/40%) WHEELBASE 105.1 in 104.3 in L x W x H 178.5 x 70.9 x 55.9 in 180.9 x 70.7 x 58.1 in 0-60 MPH 5.5 sec (MT est) 6.0 sec EPA FUEL ECON 23/33/27 mpg 16/22/19 mpg ENERGY CONSUMPTION, CITY/HWY 147/102 kW-hrs/100 miles 211/153 kW-hrs/100 miles CO2 EMISSIONS, COMB 0.73 lb/mile 1.06 lb/mile ON SALE Currently Currently
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Bachler Racing WRC oil filler neck installed in the 98 Legacy GT w/ titanium bolts for further weight reduction.
This cap/neck combo is made for the JDM Impreza STI V1-4 GC8 but also fits the 98 LGT EJ25D valve covers. Great for people who are going FMIC and need clearance.
It's tiny, lol! Might still use the longer OEM neck for complete oil changes.
"Massive" weight reduction! Weighs less than the Grimmspeed delrin cap alone and looks awesome.
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Subaru Advertisements
Lindsay Meisels
Instructor Emily Brooks
ENC3312
31 January 2018
Comparison of Subaru Advertisements for Different Audiences
Ad 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK56OQ_Pybg
Ad 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ySyd8SvRw
Subaru is a Japanese automobile manufacturer that was started in 1953. Aside from being one of largest automobile companies in regards to production, Subaru is known for its superior all- wheel drive and off-road compatibilities. In regards to U.S. markets, the company has built up a following of very dedicated buyers and drivers. This is in part due to it’s reputation of being a highly dependable car, but it also has to do with the fact that the company appeals to certain groups of people and the company harps on creating vehicles that these specific groups of people will continue to buy and drive. These groups include but are not limited to: families, young and old, adventurers, young couples, people on a relative budget, people that value safety and dependability, etc.
The first ad that I will be addressing is a video commercial Subaru released in 2017 for the 2018 Subaru Impreza. The commercial features two separate families who lead different lives but still share similar qualities such as love and desire for adventure. By having a commercial that features two different stories but the same product being involved in each story, the company is able to appeal to more people by showing them that these cars are designed for not just one type of situation. Having two different stories involved in this one commercial also caters to one of Subaru’s slogans where they assert, “Built to be safe, reliable, and long-lasting. So you know it’ll be there for you, no matter what road you’re on.” Not only does the company mean that the car’s terrain can handle different driving environments, but it also means that regardless of what your story is and what your life entails, the 2018 Subaru Impreza can help get you there safely. Given the recent time in which this ad was created, the company sets forth to appeal to aspects that are important to most modern consumers. Modern buyers want to get the most product for their money as well as be able to depend on a car for safety and reliability. Due to the stylish and modern aesthetic look of the Impreza, the expected audience of this ad is likely to be young couples who are either starting a family with a child or an animal.
The quality of this commercial is great. The two stories are very relatable given that most young couples wind up getting a dog or cat together and many young couples are raising children. The image quality appears to be spot on given the context of the ad; it’s beautiful without being too beautiful. The overall picture quality has a natural beautiful look which coincides with Subaru’s appeal to people who love the outdoors and natural environments. The company does a good job of keeping the whole ad relatable and emotionally invoking.
Subaru’s purpose is creating this kind of dynamic commercial is to prove to potential buyers that the Impreza is suitable for a variety of different people and circumstances and that safety is their top priority in protecting the people and animals that you love. The company states its credibility in the ad by letting the viewers know that the Impreza is the, “Longest-lasting vehicle in its class.” They also state that the product was the, “2017 IIHS Top Safety pick with EyeSight and Steering Responsive Headlights.” The only problems I see with these claims are that a viewer might not understand all the jargon associated with the claim about the car’s safety features and that the commercial doesn’t visually explore the EyeSight and Steering Responsive Headlights that would show this claim in action. The ad appeals to logic in that we all want to protect the things we love. Therefore, viewers can most likely agree on that fact that they would want a car to take care of the people in their life and they would feel better knowing that the car was a top safety pick and comes with features that aid in providing safety while driving. It also appeals to logic in that the company is trying to appeal to young couples who might care more about how long the car lasts more than older couples or couples who are not just starting out in the world. Young couples don’t necessarily have the money to be performing repairs on cars and need a car that’s dependable and can keep up with their busy lifestyles and evolving journeys. The biggest appeal in this ad is it’s appeal to emotions. The ad is centered around the idea of “Love”. The stories involved invoke feelings of sympathy and empathy which is key when you’re making a claim about an emotion such as love. Most people either love people, animals, or both. This ad caters to both which is key because it vastly broadens the amount of people who would find this ad emotionally invoking. Whether you’re the kind of person that loves rescuing animals, or you’re the kind of person that loves babies and family, this ad covers all of those bases.
The use of soft music, a soft voiceover talking about love, a woman tearing up at an animal shelter, a baby and a puppy, adds to the tone of the company’s claim and gives the viewers a sense that the company truly cares about them and the lives they lead. This is important because consumers want to believe that the companies that stand behind the products they buy do in fact have their best interest at heart during the creation process. This ad is highly persuasive in appealing to young people by stating the car’s safety ratings while also showing them how sleek and modern safety can look. The stories in this commercial are highly relatable and believable given that similar stories happen to people every day all over the world.
The next Subaru ad that I will be evaluating is a commercial the company released in 2017 for the new 2018 Subaru WRX and WRX STI. This commercial was created for a much different audience than the previous ad I discussed. This ad appeals to young individuals, particularly men, rather than young couples. Given the recent release of this commercial, the company is setting forth to appeal to what young men value in life. These values include power, speed, competition, living dangerously, and having material objects that boost their social status. The expected audience for the commercial is most likely young men rather than women and it is more likely intended for individuals who only have to worry about themselves rather than a couple who have responsibilities and a duty to take care of each other.
The quality of this commercial is very modern and aesthetically pretty. The company chooses to just use sounds, specifically the car’s engine sounds, throughout the ad. The quality of these sounds are very good and the pace of the commercial keeps the viewer interested. The terrain and the track used look natural enough to where a viewer can visualize themselves being there and driving the two cars. The intermittent fast shots also keep the viewer engaged and creative an adrenaline rush type of vibe. The commercial was directed well to reach its intended audience.
The purpose of this commercial is to appeal to young men and show them that with these two cars, they can live their own “fast and furious” type of lifestyle. The company uses a track and professional drivers to show the cars in action rather than use a voiceover like the previous ad to convey the value of the product. The main purpose of this ad is to show viewers how their dreams can become a reality with the purchase of these products and why this product stands out.
The company states it’s claims about the two products towards the end of the commercial. It states that these are the best handling and best performing versions “ever”. This is important to note because this basic language appeals to the way men think rather than the way women think. Women and older males want to see statistical evidence and data to back up such claims whereas this type of statement is enough for young men. The company would have risked losing the viewers interest if it started stating evidence or jargon that the likely and expected viewer would find boring and would cause them to lose interest. The company also includes in this ad the slogan, “Confidence in motion.” This is appealing to young men who are striving to live confident lifestyles and make confident life decisions.
The credibility in this ad is much different than the other ad. This is primarily because of the difference in intended and expected audience. The expected audience of this ad most likely will not care as much about safety ratings or ratings in general. The credibility that this ad does subtly explain is that these cars are newly redesigned from specific Subaru models that have been around for a long time and are widely acknowledged. Because these models have been around for quite some time now, it’s not as important for the company to show how it stacks up but rather how it’s far superior to its previous models created in prior years. The commercial logically makes a lot of sense for its expected audience because it shows the speed of the cars while showing them competing fiercely against one another. The fast shots of the driver using the stick shift also adds to its logic in that most men regard driving stick shift cars as a manly act. The choice to leave out all the verbal and written jargon appeals to the logic of appealing to an audience that would be more appreciative of the sounds of the two cars’ engines rather than a voiceover explaining the value of these two models. Subaru appeals to the emotions of men by catering to their egos while creating this fast lifestyle vibe than young men often yearn for. The pacing of the ad creates it’s own sort of adrenaline rush which also appeals greatly to men. This particular ad does not try to appeal to the emotions of women unlike the previous ad discussed.
This particular Subaru ad doesn’t really appeal to the expected audience using backing or warrants but it’s uses descriptive qualifiers to show the benefits of each model to the viewer. First the ad states the horsepower of the turbocharged Subaru boxer engine which is what a lot of people who drive sports cars care about. Then it talks about the kind of brakes the cars have which is important because it conveys to the potential buyer than they can go fast while still having control of the car. The ad follows this claim which the Recaro seats that the product has. Other than the descriptive statements, the ad shows the different aspects of the car that would appeal to its potential buyers such as the turbo exhausts, the rims, the seats, and the overall design of the car. As I mentioned previously, the biggest aspect of this ad worth noting is that lack of language associated with the ad in order to appeal to its expected audience. The commercial is very to the point and doesn’t include things that potential buyers don’t care about.
I feel that this ad is very persuasive in appealing to its expected audience including young men and individuals. The ad is not geared towards women or couples because most of the potential buyers for these cars do not fall into those groups. The ad stays on target and maintains a steady but fast pace that keeps the viewer intrigues and allows them to not only see the hype associated with the card but it allows them to feel and visualize it too.
Works Cited
“Subaru Impreza.” YouTube, Subaru, 25 Oct. 2017, www.bing.com/cr?IG=2BC62D2B815D4680A1FC70A62F55F6F9&CID=39710BA6D607661617D1002ED7A867D0&rd=1&h=51Ect9ye3JWn8zLtoA05ZsNdNJAEtcIKaX8vZJdyoLE&v=1&r=https%3a%2f%2fwww.facebook.com%2fBilly-Anderson-Valley-Subaru-in-Staunton-1439273652857790%2f&p=DevEx,5091.1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK56OQ_Pybg
Subaru. “The New 2018 Subaru WRX and WRX STI | Spotlight.” YouTube, YouTube, 30 Mar. 2017, www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ySyd8SvRw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ySyd8SvRw
“Subaru.” Subaru, Wikipedia, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru.
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5 Used Cars That Are Going To Be Classic Legends in Future
Classic cars are old-age cars which are like rare-species. They come in different sizes and shapes and also have a history that makes them worthy enough to preserve. The major benefit of preserving these cars they can generate you millions at the time of selling or if showcased in the auctions.
Investment which brings you a high amount of returns? There are some cars which surely provide you returns and in future will be known as Classic Cars.
Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
The Chevy Corvette Grand Sport is surely a classic car in the coming future its impeccable capacity makes it best in the category of sports cars.
These cars are very rare if you get the opportunity to buy them as used cars. Do not miss the opportunity at any cost, these rare species run fast like a cheetah. This beauty surely requires a cage in the segment of best collectible cars.
The production of these was under the number of 1000 which means you cannot find them everywhere in the market. It roars like a tiger with its legendary V8 engine with the 460 horsepower and ranges up to the 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. This car is made for the road as it is a perfect mix of power and maximum handling. It will cost you approximately $55,495.
Porsche Boxster
Porsche Boxster is making an entry in the classic car segment as they come as cheap and full of extraordinary features.
It is classic sports cars in the category which have chances to rank in the collectible cars. The excess production of this car and quality issues has made it relatively cheap in comparison to other cars in the segment. It cost around $13,800 which means less expensive, you can easily buy without giving a second thought.
It comes with some disappointment which can be neglected as in the future it can provide you a huge return. Otherwise, it delivers a power-packed performance, it is a mix of luxury, excitement and never-ending fun which will enhance your driving experience.
PONTIAC G8 GXP
The Pontiac made his breakthrough in the market in the year 2004 and till now it has numerous fans who share never-ending love for the car.
This iconic car has made us fall in love head over heels which have increased its fan base.
In the year 2019, the most powerful Pontiac GXP is made which has the same feature as four-dour Corvette which comes with the 6.2-liter LS3 V-8 could be paired with a six-speed automatic and delivers 415hp. The price of this car is a bit expensive but surely it will benefit you in the near future.
SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI
Subaru Impreza WRX is a boon or bane. It offers high performance, run fast like beyond your imagination.
It’s a bane for competitors as it gives cut-throat competitors to other sports cars in the segment.
The STI comes with the big wheels, heavy suspension, and a powerful engine. It offers 2.5liter which generates 300horsepower. It is one of the best cars which you can definitely think of preserving and can generate a huge amount of money. They are hard to find but holds the maximum amount of value and chances are you may find this one at cheaper rates.
Dodge Ram SRT10
It shares acquaintances with the American Lamborghini with bold and bizarre looks. The 8.3L V10engine makes the thrilling loud noise, towing capacity of 7500 pounds which makes it best for the off-roading.
It generates 500 horsepower with the rear-wheel-drive which makes it most suited to collectible cars.
The variant feature has four-door with the automatic transmission and offers 7500 pounds towing capacity. It delivers the harsh driving experience which means you can receive rough noise and has the worst fuel economy. No matter what sort of driving experience it delivers but the auction value of these has increased in the market by 10-15%.
Source: 5 Used Cars That Are Going To Be Classic Legends in Future
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[X-post from /r/Subaru] I test drove a Focus RS and wrote up a comparison to my 08 STi hatch via /r/cars
[X-post from /r/Subaru] I test drove a Focus RS and wrote up a comparison to my 08 STi hatch
So, given that Subaru has given little evidence that we're going to be getting an STi in hatch form again anytime soon, combined with the fact that my car is closing in on ten years old (08 Hatch STi), I've started to extend my search beyond the brand. As you all know, the selection of 300+ hp AWD hatches with a stick is pretty slim these days, so last night I went over to [Redacted] Ford and test drove a 2017 Focus RS.
In order to make this as honest and as unbiased as possible, I need to start off by saying the RS really is a fantastic car, in a way. Specifically, if the entire point of a car is to stick to the road like glue, corner with 100% confidence, and get into it’s potential power as soon as possible, the RS does it better than anything else I’ve driven that’s intended to be a livable daily driver with some cargo space. Also, had I not been comparing it to my STi, I think I would have been sold on it, albeit at a slightly lower price point.
My test drive went fantastically. I got plenty of starts and stops, some good highway time, and a few turns that I could pull pretty tight, or as much as is possible with a sales woman in the back seat. The absolute stand out features of the car, at least compared to my STi are the Recaro seats that feel fantastic, the car gets into boost far earlier and with less effort, and it pulls into corners in a way that at first is “unnatural” because it feels so easy, and with so little of the expected feedback (stepping out, tire squeal, etc.).
It’s no secret that the STi seats, at least in the 08s, are nothing special. Compared to it’s main rival at the time, the EVO, the STi has never scored too well in keeping the driver in place. I’m about 6’, with broad shoulders but a fairly slim torso, and the STi has far too much space where you’d expect decent lateral support. The RS is the exact opposite, with all sorts of adjustability and side supports that let me really hunker down into position. One thing to note, I sat a little higher off the floor than I would have liked, even at the lowest setting, and at that point I was probably ~3 inches closer as far as head room goes than I would have been in the STi, which resulted in less of a “low sporty” feeling than I was looking for. That said, the seats were still a win.
I didn’t lead with this, but power delivery was probably my favorite thing about the car. For the sake of comparison, my STi has a stock turbo setup, but with a Perrin intake, Turbo XS down pipe, cat delete, and I believe an Invidia muffler, with an Accessport running a 93 octane tune. I’d say my car feels like it’s getting into the boost around 3k, and really doesn’t hit peak until closer to 3.75-4k. When it does get there, it’s with a surge, and holding the throttle on the mark basically gives you the option of letting off and going back into a bit of a “dogging it” mode, or digging deeper and really getting a power boost. I wasn’t paying super close attention to the tach so I can’t speak to exact numbers on the Focus, but I barely noticed the lull between the point where I’d pull away from a stop, to where the car felt that it was fully in the boost and ready to move. I’ve yet to drive a newer WRX with the FA20 and the twin scroll setup, or any car with a twin scroll turbo for that matter, and I imagine this has a lot to do with that feel. I’m looking forward to test driving a WRX to make that comparison.
The last truly stand out feature of the car was it’s stability in the corners. Now, when I first got into my STi, it was by far the best handling car I had ever driven. I didn’t necessarily have much to compare it to, but being able to sling it into corners and have it perfectly follow my intentions, as well as power heavily out of a corner without fear because the drivetrain would sort out the issues inspired a ton of confidence. 6 years down the line, I’m far more aware of it’s idiosyncrasies and its (admittedly, few) flaws, but its still a confidence inspiring car, even more so once your familiar with those properties.
The Focus RS takes those flaws, and while I hate to admit it, moves into an entirely different league. Now, again, I haven’t driven a current generation STi or WRX, but I know significant chassis/suspension upgrades have been made to alleviate issues that my generation had. That said, I’ll be quite impressed if the newer Subes provide the same handling characteristics the RS does, with the same lack of argument. The Focus was so smooth through the corners, and it didn’t squeal, it didn’t feel like it was on the edge. Again, I’m doing a test drive with a sale woman in the back, so I’m not going to rip through the streets of [City Redacted] like I’m trying to make Gymkhana 14 or anything, but it was obvious there was so much more potential in the grip if you wanted/needed it. Obviously there’s a lot of other pieces that go into this, the seats again being a huge factor in the overall feel of the roll of the car, but even if they weren’t there I’m sure I’d sing its stability praises.
All that said, I do have a few complaints. I’ll start at my toes and move up, beginning with the clutch. I have a 5 speed Fiat 500 as well, that had a factory recall that removed a clutch assist spring. Prior to the maintenance, the clutch pedal had this foreign (to me) non linear engagement that felt unnecessarily long, like the first 4 inches of travel were heavy and meaningless, which then led to a super soft, touchy space down to the floor. This is in direct contradiction to the Subaru which is short, and basically feels exactly the same through it’s entire travel. The Focus was much more akin to the Fiat. It also had a catch point a lot closer to the floor than I expected, and didn’t really inspire the confidence to perform short clutch pedal engagement shifts like I can in the STi. Granted, this is probably something that would come on a bit with familiarity, but I was disappointed slightly at the onset. The gas pedal had a little side to side play, and wasn’t nearly as beefy as the STi. To make another comparison to my 500, the gas pedal is set too far over, and back from the brake pedal, and did not make for an easy heel-toe (or more accurately, left side of foot, right side of foot) throttle blip like the STi does. Again, something that probably comes with familiarity.
The shifter is weird. My buddy has a 2014 base model Focus, and the shifter was far more in line with that than the STi. It was certainly “notch-y”, but in a way that it felt like an after thought. In the STi, I feel like I could put 100lbs of force into a shift and never cause any issues, and every gate engagement feels like a very tuned experience. The RS’s engagement felt like a base model Focus shifter with some “engagement enhancing” bushings. Also, the shifter’s position on the floor and in its leather jacket makes it look short, but it feels a little “smoke and mirrors” as the actual throw wasn’t as short as I was expecting. For what it’s worth, my STi has the standard shifter throw, nothing shorter than stock.
Beyond that, I didn’t feel too strongly either way. Steering feedback felt on par with my STi. Lighter for sure, and the smaller, leather wrapped flat bottomed wheel felt good. I was surprised to lookup some stats to find that the RS is actually heavier than my car, again to reference the power delivery and handling feel, I would have believed you if you told me it was 300lbs lighter, and that was with three of us in it.
In terms of regular considerations when buying a car, the back seat space was almost exactly that of my STi (with less head room), and slightly less cargo area with the seats folded down, something I use weekly in the STi, and part of the reason I’m so anti-sedan these days. It had heated seats, heated steering wheel, Nav/Backup camera, and a bunch of other creature comforts. If it isn’t obvious, these items don’t really sell me on a car. They’re a nice afterthought, but my direct interface with the vehicle is my number one concern.
With that, I come to my main reason for taking the Focus off my list for consideration, at least for the time being. Despite it’s prowess in power delivery and handling, there’s a disconnect that isn’t present on my STi. Part of this is definitely due to the fact that my STi has modifications I’m super familiar with. It’s dropped on Cobb 3/8” springs, and the exhaust is to put it bluntly, loud as hell. However, its touchiness, its stiffness, the noise, combined with the better pedal and shifter feel, really make me feel like I’m directly influencing the car. While the Focus had zero latency in terms of driver inputs and its response, I felt like I was making suggestions, and the car was calculating the best output. Which I get it, we have superior technology to what we did 10 years ago, but I’m starting to feel like one of those old car guys we’re all doomed to become that begrudges the current automative offerings for “doing too much”, and not letting you drive the car. Again, if I wasn’t holding the car against mine I’d be far more interested, but I don’t want to lose the visceral experience I get with the STi. In the end, the RS felt like a Focus that was put through the German efficiency machine to throw down nasty lap times at the ring, but also be sellable to the modern driver who expects a German level amount of comfort, regardless of what it meant for muting the engagement for the driver inside. Meanwhile, to me, the STi feels like a car whose foundations and engineering decisions lay in a 400k WRC car, that was toned down to meet a civilian level price point and drivability.
So, given that Subaru has given little evidence that we're going to be getting an STi in hatch form again anytime soon, combined with the fact that my car is closing in on ten years old (08 Hatch STi), I've started to extend my search beyond the brand. As you all know, the selection of 300+ hp AWD hatches with a stick is pretty slim these days, so last night I went over to [Redacted] Ford and test drove a 2017 Focus RS.
In order to make this as honest and as unbiased as possible, I need to start off by saying the RS really is a fantastic car, in a way. Specifically, if the entire point of a car is to stick to the road like glue, corner with 100% confidence, and get into it’s potential power as soon as possible, the RS does it better than anything else I’ve driven that’s intended to be a livable daily driver with some cargo space. Also, had I not been comparing it to my STi, I think I would have been sold on it, albeit at a slightly lower price point.
My test drive went fantastically. I got plenty of starts and stops, some good highway time, and a few turns that I could pull pretty tight, or as much as is possible with a sales woman in the back seat. The absolute stand out features of the car, at least compared to my STi are the Recaro seats that feel fantastic, the car gets into boost far earlier and with less effort, and it pulls into corners in a way that at first is “unnatural” because it feels so easy, and with so little of the expected feedback (stepping out, tire squeal, etc.).
It’s no secret that the STi seats, at least in the 08s, are nothing special. Compared to it’s main rival at the time, the EVO, the STi has never scored too well in keeping the driver in place. I’m about 6’, with broad shoulders but a fairly slim torso, and the STi has far too much space where you’d expect decent lateral support. The RS is the exact opposite, with all sorts of adjustability and side supports that let me really hunker down into position. One thing to note, I sat a little higher off the floor than I would have liked, even at the lowest setting, and at that point I was probably ~3 inches closer as far as head room goes than I would have been in the STi, which resulted in less of a “low sporty” feeling than I was looking for. That said, the seats were still a win.
I didn’t lead with this, but power delivery was probably my favorite thing about the car. For the sake of comparison, my STi has a stock turbo setup, but with a Perrin intake, Turbo XS down pipe, cat delete, and I believe an Invidia muffler, with an Accessport running a 93 octane tune. I’d say my car feels like it’s getting into the boost around 3k, and really doesn’t hit peak until closer to 3.75-4k. When it does get there, it’s with a surge, and holding the throttle on the mark basically gives you the option of letting off and going back into a bit of a “dogging it” mode, or digging deeper and really getting a power boost. I wasn’t paying super close attention to the tach so I can’t speak to exact numbers on the Focus, but I barely noticed the lull between the point where I’d pull away from a stop, to where the car felt that it was fully in the boost and ready to move. I’ve yet to drive a newer WRX with the FA20 and the twin scroll setup, or any car with a twin scroll turbo for that matter, and I imagine this has a lot to do with that feel. I’m looking forward to test driving a WRX to make that comparison.
The last truly stand out feature of the car was it’s stability in the corners. Now, when I first got into my STi, it was by far the best handling car I had ever driven. I didn’t necessarily have much to compare it to, but being able to sling it into corners and have it perfectly follow my intentions, as well as power heavily out of a corner without fear because the drivetrain would sort out the issues inspired a ton of confidence. 6 years down the line, I’m far more aware of it’s idiosyncrasies and its (admittedly, few) flaws, but its still a confidence inspiring car, even more so once your familiar with those properties.
The Focus RS takes those flaws, and while I hate to admit it, moves into an entirely different league. Now, again, I haven’t driven a current generation STi or WRX, but I know significant chassis/suspension upgrades have been made to alleviate issues that my generation had. That said, I’ll be quite impressed if the newer Subes provide the same handling characteristics the RS does, with the same lack of argument. The Focus was so smooth through the corners, and it didn’t squeal, it didn’t feel like it was on the edge. Again, I’m doing a test drive with a sale woman in the back, so I’m not going to rip through the streets of [City Redacted] like I’m trying to make Gymkhana 14 or anything, but it was obvious there was so much more potential in the grip if you wanted/needed it. Obviously there’s a lot of other pieces that go into this, the seats again being a huge factor in the overall feel of the roll of the car, but even if they weren’t there I’m sure I’d sing its stability praises.
All that said, I do have a few complaints. I’ll start at my toes and move up, beginning with the clutch. I have a 5 speed Fiat 500 as well, that had a factory recall that removed a clutch assist spring. Prior to the maintenance, the clutch pedal had this foreign (to me) non linear engagement that felt unnecessarily long, like the first 4 inches of travel were heavy and meaningless, which then led to a super soft, touchy space down to the floor. This is in direct contradiction to the Subaru which is short, and basically feels exactly the same through it’s entire travel. The Focus was much more akin to the Fiat. It also had a catch point a lot closer to the floor than I expected, and didn’t really inspire the confidence to perform short clutch pedal engagement shifts like I can in the STi. Granted, this is probably something that would come on a bit with familiarity, but I was disappointed slightly at the onset. The gas pedal had a little side to side play, and wasn’t nearly as beefy as the STi. To make another comparison to my 500, the gas pedal is set too far over, and back from the brake pedal, and did not make for an easy heel-toe (or more accurately, left side of foot, right side of foot) throttle blip like the STi does. Again, something that probably comes with familiarity.
The shifter is weird. My buddy has a 2014 base model Focus, and the shifter was far more in line with that than the STi. It was certainly “notch-y”, but in a way that it felt like an after thought. In the STi, I feel like I could put 100lbs of force into a shift and never cause any issues, and every gate engagement feels like a very tuned experience. The RS’s engagement felt like a base model Focus shifter with some “engagement enhancing” bushings. Also, the shifter’s position on the floor and in its leather jacket makes look short, but it feels a little “smoke and mirrors” as the actual throw wasn’t as short as I was expecting. For what it’s worth, my STi has the standard shifter throw, nothing shorter than stock.
Beyond that, I didn’t feel too strongly either way. Steering feedback felt on par with my STi. Lighter for sure, and the smaller, leather wrapped flat bottomed wheel felt good. I was surprised to lookup some stats to find that the RS is actually heavier than my car, again to reference the power delivery and handling feel, I would have believed you if you told me it was 300lbs lighter, and that was with three of us in it.
In terms of regular considerations when buying a car, the back seat space was almost exactly that of my STi (with less head room), and slightly less cargo area with the seats folded down, something I use weekly in the STi, and part of the reason I’m so anti-sedan these days. It had heated seats, heated steering wheel, Nav/Backup camera, and a bunch of other creature comforts. If it isn’t obvious, these items don’t really sell me on a car. They’re a nice afterthought, but my direct interface with the vehicle is my number one concern.
With that, I come to my main reason for taking the Focus off my list for consideration, at least for the time being. Despite it’s prowess in power delivery and handling, there’s a disconnect that isn’t present on my STi. Part of this is definitely due to the fact that my STi has modifications I’m super familiar with. It’s dropped on Cobb 3/8” springs, and the exhaust is to put it bluntly, loud as hell. However, its touchiness, its stiffness, the noise, combined with the better pedal and shifter feel, really make me feel like I’m directly influencing the car. While the Focus had zero latency in terms of driver inputs and its response, I felt like I was making suggestions, and the car was calculating the best output. Which I get it, we have superior technology to what we did 10 years ago, but I’m starting to feel like one of those old car guys we’re all doomed to become that begrudges the current automative offerings for “doing too much”, and not letting you drive the car. Again, if I wasn’t holding the car against mine I’d be far more interested, but I don’t want to lose the visceral experience I get with the STi. In the end, the RS felt like a Focus that was put through the German efficiency machine to throw down nasty lap times at the ring, but also be sellable to the modern driver who expects a German level amount of comfort, regardless of what it meant for muting the engagement for the driver inside. Meanwhile, to me, the STi feels like a car whose foundations and engineering decisions lay in a 400k WRC car, that was toned down to meet a civilian level price point and drivability.
That said, I can’t say enough nice things about the staff at [Redacted] Ford. I wasn’t pleased with the initial trade in offer I was given for the STi, and they were willing try and find a common ground. We all know that they don’t have a lot of issues moving these RS’s, which means there isn’t a ton of wiggle room in terms of bargaining, but they didn’t shut me down right away. I went in there with a professional attitude, and made it clear that I had very specific terms not only financially, but also specific characteristics I was looking for in the RS, and they returned that professional courtesy in spades. I might not be 100% ready to get rid of my STi, but that doesn’t mean I’ve totally written off an RS, it might just have to wait until I’m comfortable taking on the RS without a trade-in.
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my mother has been having bad bleading and cloting she has been told by a dr that she needs a hystroctomy but she doesnt qualify for the state health insurance even though she has no income and hasnt for some time. i feel at a loss i dont know what to do i live in another country and have a young child so i cant be there to take care of this. what can she do she has been ill for so long its heart breaking she live in oregon if that helps
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2020 Honda Civic Si Sedan First Test: I Almost Love It
We’re big fans of the Honda Civic; there’s no use trying to hide that. Even competing against sparkly new redesigns of the Toyota Corolla and Mazda3 in a recent compact sedan comparison, the three-year-old Civic came out on top. We also thoroughly enjoyed our year-long loan with a Civic Type R, which stole first place in a hardcore hatchback comparo against a Subaru WRX STI Type RA, Volkswagen Golf R, and Ford Focus RS. There’s still plenty of room for a Civic Si.
Before Honda decided we Americans were finally worthy of the almighty Type R, the Si was the hottest Civic we had. Now it represents an enticing middle ground between the turbocharged standard Civic and the razor-sharp Type R, and a financially attainable one at just $25,930.
What’s not to like? The 2020 Civic Si is quick, practical, cohesive, and accessible, but it has one significant flaw that might keep me out of the driver’s seat.
Si Sweetheart
First, I need to touch on all there is to love about this sweet little sport sedan. There are a few changes for the 2020 model year that improve on an already likeable platform.
New LED headlights and foglights, both from the Civic Type R, look premium and illuminate the road better than the old projectors. The revised infotainment setup from last year’s update features a physical volume knob and physical fan speed buttons; much appreciated for easy adjustment on the move. There’s a 6 percent shorter final drive ratio that Honda says improves acceleration feel (more on that in a moment) and standard Honda Sensing active safety features that are disappointingly absent in other compact sport sedans like the Jetta GLI.
Beyond those new features, tacking Si onto the end of your Civic order brings serious hardware improvements to the standard Civic. The 1.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder makes 205 hp and 192 lb-ft of torque (up 31 hp and 30 lb-ft over the Civic Touring), there’s a limited-slip differential between the front wheels, and two-mode adjustable suspension. Huge side bolsters on the front seats will hug you almost as much as those in the Type R, and the Si is exclusively offered with three pedals and a stick.
Despite the shorter final drive ratio, the 2020 Civic Si is no quicker than the 2019 example we tested earlier this year. This new car hit 60 in 6.8 seconds—0.2 slower than last year’s car—though it completed the quarter mile in the same 15.1 seconds at a slightly higher trap speed.
The Si actually has shockingly similar straight-line acceleration numbers to the Civic Touring, which does a 6.8-second 0–60 sprint and a 15.2-second quarter mile, but the real benefits are on the figure eight. Thanks to grippier summer tires and the front differential getting more power to the ground, a figure-eight lap in the 2020 Civic Si takes only 25.4 seconds. It’s over a second faster around that course than the standard car.
Even with stability control that isn’t fully defeatable and steering that doesn’t communicate midcorner bumps as well as we’d like, the Si is a blast in the corners.
Away from the track, the effects of the limited-slip diff are still apparent. The car will only ever understeer if you provoke it. I could feel this differential shuffling power between the front wheels to deliver peak traction as I was exiting sharper turns, much more so than I did with the diff in the hot Jetta. As soon as the front wheels are pointed toward the apex, mashing the throttle will tug the little Civic out of the corner and get you pointed toward the next. There were even a few cases where I found myself exiting a corner quicker than I expected, though I noticed no difference in acceleration feel with the revised final drive.
Differentiation from the standard car is always obvious behind the wheel of the Si. The short-throw shifter’s petite shift knob fits well in the hand, and shifts feel mechanical and direct. This is as satisfying a transmission as you’ll find. I adore these seats, too—I found myself holding the steering wheel less tightly than I normally might because the seats were holding me in place and I wasn’t relying on the wheel for stability.
The standard setting for the adjustable suspension felt to me like it had just enough body movement to feel compliant and give a sense of weight transfer. There’s a fluidity in this chassis that reminded me of our Alfa Romeo Giulia long-termer. I didn’t find much use for the stiffer setting, nor the associated Sport mode that pipes more of the admittedly decent synthetic engine sound into the cabin and lights the gauge cluster in red.
Although it’s appreciated on a car at this price, Honda’s adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, and automatic emergency braking systems don’t feel as polished and foolproof as those from Volvo, Tesla, or Cadillac. The adaptive cruise required more intervention than most, but Honda gets extra points from us for making it work with a manual transmission and including it as standard. (Take that, Porsche!)
(Si)nus Infection
What I don’t love about the Civic Si is a little issue called rev hang. It’s something that has plagued the turbocharged Si since its debut, and it truly bums me out.
When I say rev hang, what I mean is that when you let off the throttle, it takes a long time for the engine speed to drop. Doesn’t seem like something to make a fuss about, but make a fuss I will.
A lot of the joy of driving a car with a manual transmission, for me at least, is rev-matching. Gear ratios match engine speed (revs) with the speed at which the car rolls along the ground. When you change gears, up or down, it’s important when you let the clutch back in that the engine speed matches the new gear for smooth driving and limiting wear on the drivetrain.
Upshifting smoothly in the Civic Si is an exercise in frustration. The revs drop so slowly that if you were to wait for the engine speed to match the next gear, you’ll spend at least a second with each shift. It’s an unfortunate characteristic that mars the greatness of the transmission and results in uncomfortable shunts of forward movement as the clutch engagement forces the engine down to speed. Not only is it difficult to drive smoothly, it made me feel like an irresponsible car owner putting unnecessary strain on the driveline.
It’s especially disheartening after my recent weekend in the naturally aspirated, rev-happy, VTEC screamer that is the 1999 Civic Si.
In this new car, road test editor Chris Walton felt only a partial connection between the gas pedal and the engine, and I think I know why. As much as we enthusiasts want a throttle that snaps open and snaps shut for immediate engine response, more gradual transitions are what result in better fuel economy. (I’ll acquiesce that the 2020 Si returns an impressive 26/36 mpg city/highway.)
It feels to me like the Civic Si has some lag in its drivetrain—not turbo lag, but throttle lag. It takes a moment, even at higher rpms, to feel any response from this engine when your foot comes on or off the throttle. Normally, vicious rev hang can be corrected with a lighter flywheel, but a little forum digging reveals that this throttle lag and the resultant rev hang, are in fact software issues, not hardware issues. That means it’s a problem that can be mostly solved with an aftermarket tune, but it’s still incredibly frustrating.
Imperfect, Still Great
So the 2020 Civic Si is a zippy, satisfying, affordable compact sport sedan with a significant flaw. Does that mean you shouldn’t consider one? Absolutely not. The rev hang is something to keep in mind on a test drive, but it won’t bother everyone the way it bothers me, and if it’s the one thing between you and a Civic Si, budget an extra couple hundred dollars and fix it with a tune.
This is a car whose benefits way outshine its few drawbacks. It’s one of the best inexpensive performance machines on the market.
2020 Honda Civic Si (Sedan) BASE PRICE $26,130 PRICE AS TESTED $26,130 VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, FWD, 5-pass, 4-door sedan ENGINE 1.5L/205-hp/192-lb-ft turbo DOHC 16-valve I-4 TRANSMISSION 6-speed manual CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 2,899 lb (61/39%) WHEELBASE 106.3 in LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 182.8 x 70.8 x 55.5 in 0-60 MPH 6.8 sec QUARTER MILE 15.1 sec @ 93.9 mph BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 106 ft LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.95 g (avg) MT FIGURE EIGHT 25.7 sec @ 0.69 g (avg) EPA CITY/HWY/COMB FUEL ECON 26/36/30 mpg ENERGY CONS, CITY/HWY 130/94 kW-hrs/100 miles CO2 EMISSIONS, COMB 0.65 lb/mile
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Comparing Torque Solution vs Roger Clark Motorsports aluminum half moon seals for the Subaru EJ.
About to do the valve covers again on the 98 LGT and wanted the best seals. Originally got the TS seals but wasn't really impressed over the BH aluminum seals currently installed.
Finally while looking for RCM parts I came across their superior seals.
TS (left) vs RCM (right)
The RCM seals weighed ~5g heavier because there is actually more aluminum on the sides. They are also CNC'd from 1 piece of black anodized aluminum.
The TS seals look good but are of lesser quality and cheaper. Sides are thinner and they look like they were forged in a mold vs CNC'd. Plus the black looks almost painted.
Wanted you Subaru folks to have a better look at these side by side. Makes you realize that you get what you pay for. Definitely get some aluminum vs OEM seals, it's worth the extra bucks because they will last the life of the engine!
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Here’s The Full Car List For Need For Speed Heat
Now that Need For Speed Heat got its gameplay trailer reveal at gamescom’s first Opening Night Live, we got some more details on the anticipated open-world racer. But you don’t expect to learn the full car list this early now do we?
And yet here we are. Over on the official site is the full car list. All 124 of them. For comparison, Payback has 78 + 7 DLC cars. The big jump here is due to two factors: Ferrari is back after missing from Payback with 8 cars. And new to Heat is open-top cars, most of them being new cars.
BMW, Lamborghini and Porsche are the leading brands that got a massive bump of cars, with most cars from Payback (aside from the Porsche 911 Carrera S (993), Ford Roadster and Ford Roadster – Beck Kustoms) are either return or updated to a newer model year/variant.
Still no sight of a Toyota, unfortunately. But! With the game set in Palm City (fictional Miami) and the game’s promo art leaning on the 80’s blue and purple hues, there’s a Ferrari Testarossa and a Lamborghini Countach, the perfect icons from that era.
Here’s the long list in full:
Acura RSX-S
Acura NSX
Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrofoglio
Aston Martin DB5
Aston Martin Vulcan
Aston Martin DB11
Audi S5 Sportback
Audi R8 V10 Performance Coupe
BMW M3 E46 GTR
BMW I8 Roadster
BMW Z4 M40i
BMW M4 Convertible
BMW M4
BMW M2 Competition
BMW M4 GTS
BMW M3
BMW M3 Evolution II
BMW M3
BMW M5
BMW I8 Coupe
BMW X6 M
Buick Grand National
Chevrolet Camaro SS
Chevrolet Bel Air
Chevrolet C10 Stepside Pickup
Chevrolet Camaro Z28
Chevrolet Colorado ZR2
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Coupe
Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
Chevrolet Corvette Z06
Dodge Charger
Dodge Challenger SRT8
Ferrari FXX-K Evo
Ferrari LaFerrari
Ferrari Testarossa Coupé
Ferrari 488 Pista
Ferrari 458 Spider
Ferrari 458 Italia
Ferrari F40
Ferrari 488 GTB
Ford Mustang
Ford Mustang Boss 302
Ford Focus RS
Ford Mustang GT
Ford Mustang Foxbody
Ford F-150 Raptor (FEM From NFS Payback)
Ford F-150 Raptor
Ford GT
Honda Civic Type-R (2017)
Honda Civic Type-R (2000)
Honda S2000
Honda NSX Type-R
Infiniti Q60S
Jaguar F-Type R Convertible
Jaguar F-Type R Coupe
Koenigsegg Regera
Lamborghini Aventador SVJ Roadster
Lamborghini Huracan Performante Spyder
Lamborghini Aventador S
Lamborghini Aventador S Roadster
Lamborghini Huracan Spyder
Lamborghini Countach 25th Anniversary
Lamborghini Aventador SVJ Coupe
Lamborghini Huracan Performante
Lamborghini Huracan
Lamborghini Diablo SV
Lamborghini Murciélago SV
Land Rover Defender 110 Double Cab Pickup
Land Rover Range Rover Sport SVR
Lotus Exige S
Mazda Rx-7 Spirit R
Mazda MX5 (2015)
Mazda MX5 (1996)
Mclaren P1 GTR
Mclaren P1
Mclaren 570S Spider
Mclaren 600LT
Mclaren 570S
Mercedes-AMG C63 Coupe
Mercedes-AMG A 45
Mercedes-AMG GT S Roadster
Mercedes-AMG GT R
Mercedes-AMG GT
Mercedes-AMG G63
Mercury Cougar
Mini Countryman John Cooper Works
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX
Nissan 370Z 50th Anniversary Edition
Nissan 370Z Nismo
Nissan 350Z (Rachel’s From NFSU2)
Nissan Skyline GT-R (Eddie’s From NFSU)
Nissan 180SX Type X
Nissan 350Z
Nissan Skyline GT-R V·Spec
Nissan Fairlady 240ZG
Nissan Skyline GT-R V·Spec
Nissan Silvia Spec-R Aero
Nissan Skyline 2000 GT-R
Nissan GT-R Nismo
Nissan GT-R
Pagani Huayra BC
Plymouth Barracuda
Polestar Polestar 1
Pontiac Firebird
Porsche 918 Spyder
Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Cabriolet
Porsche 911 Turbo S Exclusive Series Cabriolet
Porsche Panamera Turbo
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
Porsche Cayman GT4
Porsche 911 Carrera GTS
Porsche 911 Targa 4 GTS
Porsche 718 Cayman GTS
Porsche 911 Turbo S Exclusive Series
Porsche 911 Carrera RST 2.8
Porsche 911 Carrera S
Porsche 911 GT2 RS
SRT Viper GTS
Subaru BRZ Premium
Subaru Impreza WRX STI (2010)
Subaru Impreza WRX STI (2006)
Volkswagen Beetle
Volkswagen Golf GTI Clubsport (2016)
Volkswagen Golf GTI Clubsport (1976)
Volvo Amazon P130
Volvo 242DL
The extra three cars are special liveried cars from past Need For Speeds.
You can start customising the cars already via the NFS Heat Studio app, now available on iOS and Android. The customisations can later be imported to the full game.
Need For Speed Heat will be out on November 8th for the PS4, PC (Origin) and Xbox One.
Here’s The Full Car List For Need For Speed Heat published first on https://touchgen.tumblr.com/
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