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good morning
#cal.txt#sawposting#saw movies#saw franchise#saw 1#saw 7#saw 2004#chainshipping#coffinshipping#lawrence gordon#adam stanheight#lawrence x adam#peter strahm#mark hoffman#stroffman#hoffman x strahm#doomed yaoi#toxic yaoi#shitpost#I am a changed man I’m truly reborn thanks jigsaw#they’re like Jesus and Judas to me#queer romance#tag for silliness
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Why doesn’t the big Jigsaw eat the little one
#amanda young#mark hoffman#john kramer#lawrence gordon#saw 2004#adam faulkner stanheight#adam stanheight#saw#saw movies#sawposting#peter strahm#stroffman#lynn denlon#lynnmanda#chainshipping#billy the puppet#saw 2#saw 3#saw 6#saw 3d#saw movie
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Mark: Do you want to know your gay name? Peter: My... my gay name? Mark: Yeah, it's your first name- Peter: Haha. Very funny Mark- Mark: *gets down on one knee* And my last name. Peter: Oh- oh my god.
#incorrect saw#incorrect quotes#sawposting#sawtism#saw franchise#saw fandom#saw#coffinshipping#hoffstrahm#stroffman#mark hoffman#peter strahm#see queue at the bitter end
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I know the glass coffin trap was meant to be “painful” or whatever for Strahm but what if he just like — gently laid back into it? The glass wasn’t glued straight up or anything, it would have been minimal. Minimal pain trap for Hoff’s baby GWORL
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Saw V is a horror TO YOU. To me it's just a doomed rom-com about a criminally insane homosexual(/bisexual) and the target of his affection. 🫶🫶
oh right and there's this romantic straight sub-plot about those two bisexuals playing this one game together as well.
#aaaand post.#yes this is a reference to that one tumblr post which i never saw on tumblr so i don't have the link djdhd#y'all probably know what post i'm talking about tho#saw#saw v#hoffstrahm#stroffman#coffinshipping#pintshipping
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He They both lost.
#saw#saw franchise#saw movies#mark hoffman#peter strahm#coffinshipping#hoffstrahm#saw fanart#stroffman#fanart#jigsaw apprentice#illustration#digital editing#traditional art#enemies to lovers#rivals#rivals to lovers#san art#saw 4#saw iv#glass coffin#red and blue#sorry I forgot to post#horror movies#saw 5#saw films#saw v#sad art#new post
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for a long time i avoided the saw fandom but in the past few days i took a look again
i was one of the people who was there when we built the fandom. it existed before but in 2015-2019 we kinda came together as one and created a community. we were like about 50 *active* people on tumblr. we worked full time keeping the fandom alive and making content.
i remember when i wrote chainshipping fanfics we had about 30 existing works on ao3 and i remember when we came up with hoffstrahm (stroffman back then) and we were like "we hit 10 fanfics on ao3!" and if you saw viral tweets about saw during 2016-2019, that was me probably (and the tweet of leigh saying there was more to adam and lawrence relationship was also my edit... he did not say that, im sorry).
we had a theory that adams corpse wasnt really him but that they switched it with tapp's and everyone kinda took it as canon even though we knew it made no sense
but i think the most important part of everything was that the fandom came to life through trans people (mostly trans men and transmascs) and lesbians. there was barely any cishet person in the fandom and it was common knowledge that adam was a trans man (or trans in general) (also i dont know how its now, but him and diana as a father/daughter dynamic was a huge part of chainshipping) and amanda a lesbian. it was a fandom but it was also an lgbt community that felt like a little safe town for us
so after 2019, when saw became more popular i kinda retreated because it felt like an army marching into it and i guess i kinda overreacted, but it was something so dear to me and a huge part of my and other's lives and being trans, and it upset me in a way? (also autistics with a franchise/media as their special interest will know what i mean😭)
i remember seeing a meme that was like "only girls understand adam" and with the history of adam being like. the poster boy for a lot young trans boys it kinda hit the wrong spot, even if it wasnt serious at all
so a few days ago i saw some fanart by @turnipoddity and thought. let me check in, its been long enough.
seeing the amount of trans chainshipping fics on ao3 was so relieving and seeing posts that reminded me of back then showed me that, even with saw not being the little community we once had, there are still people that think the same way as we did and adam and amanda still being interpreted the same, too
i dont really know why im writing this exactly, but i needed to get it out of my system. i hope saw will continue to be as important to young lgbt folk as it was and is to us.
#saw#saw movie#saw 2004#saw franchise#jigsaw#john kramer#lawrence gordon#adam faulkner stanheight#amanda young#mark hoffman#peter strahm#leigh whannell#horror#n#text post#chainshipping#hoffstrahm#stroffman#personal
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A hare and a bear I've missed drawing them
I need to draw more Hoffstrahm furries
#saw#saw fanart#mark hoffman#peter strahm#hoffstrahm#coffinshipping#stroffman#saw v#bear#hare#furry au#animalified art#my art
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It’s Pride Month, so here’s some
Fun Pride Activities:
- Hunt a loved one for sport!
- Watch a loved one die (because you killed them!)
- Keep that loved one’s hand in a freezer in your car!
#blood tw#saw fanart#sawposting#saw#mark hoffman#peter strahm#‘s hand#hoffstrahm#coffinshipping#stroffman#<- caption implied#art#digital art#my art
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thinkign about 2 ugly men who want to kill each other and who i wanna see stick their hands in each others guts sensually. i think i wokeup with a light fever today and ive begun my tumblrification. whats next am i gonna make a web weaving tab with hannibal quotes. am i going to say "girls when the inherent media consume yearn experience analysis yuri." am i going to become what i hate the most: every saw fan who isnt myself
#stroffman on my mind and it's entirely because my ocd is going insane and i skipped a few doses of my lamotrigine on accident#wheb people say “im insane about them” abt a ship.... you are NOT and you are so lucky. im in the fucking trenches#i dont even care about them however my brain itches to be gutfucked and psychologically tormented. this is not a good thing for me. help me
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just found out that hoffstrahm used to be called stroffman
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Peter, texting Mark: Text me when you’re home safely. Mark: I’m home dangerously. Peter: Stop it. Mark: I’m home lethally.
#incorrect saw#incorrect quotes#sawposting#sawtism#saw franchise#saw fandom#saw#coffinshipping#hoffstrahm#stroffman#peter strahm#mark hoffman#see queue at the bitter end
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CHAPTER 9 UPDATE! Little Christmas gift of the finished fic for you all! Thank you so much for joining me in this and supporting me! :)
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I was just thinking and... Guys, I realized,,,
Strahm was actually the last thing that linked Hoffman with his own humanity
Because look, 🙏 when Strahm's still alive when he and Hoffman keep playing that cat and mouse game you can clearly see that he still keeps having doubts about whether he should be doing what he's doing, about whether what he's done so far is good or wrong, is it really any justice or not really - I think what proves this the most is that scene at which he looks at Angelina's picture and afterwards throws his promotion certificate(?) on his desk with evident resignation and something that looks like disgust even
It's only when Strahm ends up dying, when Hoffman looks at his dead body that it seems like something clicks inside him - his expressions when he's looking at it, then when he's picking up his hand, all of his conflicting emotions and thoughts seeming to flicker right in front of his eyes at that moment
As if the moment he saw what he's done to Strahm, as if the moment he basically lost someone that kept insistingly showing him that what he's doing is wrong, that looked at him with disgust for what he was doing, that beat the sh*t out of him for that - see, that's what I'm often talking about also, like I usually do joke about it in a "Hoffman is a wh0re" manner, but actually it very much seems to me that Mark wanted Peter to beat the sh*t out of him, he enjoyed it, because a part of him knew he deserved it for the things he's done so far
But going back to my point - the moment Strahm died, the moment he saw his smashed body was the moment when his humanity has been torn away from him as a person completely, the moment when any good nature and reason left him, because it's Peter's insults, remarks and him not wanting to let him get away with this was what was keeping him grounded to his own doubts about all of this
In a way, I feel like you can even say Strahm's death was also the death of Hoffman's good and rational, as well as careful side
The fact that he had an actual real opponent, that he saw an actual real enemy in Strahm that could make him pay for his actions very much keeping him grounded as well, because with their cat and mouse game he knew he couldn't let his guard down, because he knew Strahm's way too intelligent and it's clear that he very much respected that
The moment Strahm died Hoffman also felt like he could put his guard down, because he felt like he didn't have an actual, real opponent anymore that could stand in his way the way Peter did
The only opponent he ever held any regard for and thought was worth any effort was Strahm.
#idk just random ramblings#it's not even entirely in a ship way like obviously I might biased because I do love them as a ship#but I'm talking here about their characters overall#saw#mark hoffman#peter strahm#hoffstrahm#coffinshipping#stroffman
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Please, take my pen, babygirl.
+close-up
#hoffstrahm#stroffman#mark hoffman#peter strahm#saw fanart#saw franchise#saw#fanart#jigsaw apprentice#saw movies#illustration#digital editing#traditional art#enemies to lovers#rivals#rivals to lovers#san art#saw 4#saw iv#neon colors#maybe i will draw a part 2?????
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my one beef with hoffstrahm is that it's not called stroffman. or strahfman. life could have been beautiful
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