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universitypenguin · 10 months ago
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Do any of you use book apps? For example: Goodreads, Story Graph, Bookmory, or Hoopla?
I’m sick of Goodreads, so I was looking through the App Store and it was surprising how many new apps there are for books.
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la-libreria-chula · 4 months ago
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August creeping up like 🌪 That means plus size readathon is coming back! Hosted by @plus.size.readathon , this year they're doing it by teams: Team Sour and Team Sweet! Each team has different prompts as well as a group book. There are also photo activities to do each week (if I remember correctly). Obviously I'm Team Sweet 🍡 so excited to begin this since I missed it last year. There's also a discord group where you can talk with other participants ❤️ again as always, support your indie bookstores and public libraries!
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bradrcook · 6 months ago
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Story Graphing: A Visual Editing Tool Brad R. Cook
In a workshop I give to young writers, I show the image of a standard story arc. The one we all know, starts low, builds through rising action to the peak of the climax, and then has a resolution on the other side. It looks like one side of a hill. In doing research, I came across a concept I’d seen years earlier – Kurt Vonnegut’s story graphs.
Kurt Vonnegut, an American literary giant who liked numbers and was a bit of a math guy came up with a theory that stories had different shapes, and those shapes were a good way of interpreting a plot. Now I will say, many have spoken out in favor and against this theory saying story graphing was too subjective to be real and similar stores will have wildly different shapes. Watch him graph Cinderella –  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP3c1h8v2ZQ
I think Vonnegut was on to something. Maybe not the end all, be all of breaking down a story, but graphing is good for showing a few things. First, stories do have wildly different shapes, but stories within genres tend to look similar. The graphs show if the writer’s story is similar to others in the same genre or style. Two, as an editing tool for visual learners a story graph can show what parts are doing well and which parts need more work.
I like it because it allows me to see the whole forest instead of only the trees. This isn’t some magic wand to solve all your plotting problems, but it is a tool that can be helpful.
What is story graphing? Simply, it is a visual representation of the positive and negative points of the story.
1 – Choose Points to Plot – Writers can go chapter by chapter, scene by scene, or by major plot points. More points mean more detail in the graph. If you’re looking for an overview do 10 points, if you want a detailed graph of the story, use 20-40 points or more. The number is determined by how many scenes are in the story.
2 – Make the Graph – The vertical line is for the good and bad things that happen in the story and the horizontal line represents the beginning to the end.
3 – Assign Values to the Points – I suggest a scale of +5 and a -5, you could use ten, and I often use half points for accuracy. The key is to be consistent. Pick the high point and the low point of the story, they become the +5 and -5 of the point spread. The third point is the starting point - where does the story begin. Is it a 0, a normal day, or are they enduring hardship so it’s a -1? Maybe start at a 1 because life is good. Now, the next point, is the next scene, but is the character’s life improving or getting more challenging? Do the same for each new point, does the story get better or worse than the scene before?
One note, I suggest only having one or two +5 and -5. There should only be a couple of truly amazing or heartbreaking scenes in a book.
4 – Connect the Dots – Once the story is graphed, it can be analyzed for several factors.
Peaks and Valleys – All the peaks should be good moments or the emotional highs of the book, and all the valleys should represent the character's struggles. What a writer doesn’t want are plateaus, which means nothing has changed in the story.
The Overall Shape – The shape should be similar to other stories in genre or the tropes of the story. Depending on the story it could look like a roller-coaster, a descending arc, or maybe a deep valley with a high ending. There are several shapes that Vonnegut outlined.
What Needs Editing – Not enough peaks and valleys, could be a muddy middle. Does the low moment come shortly before the climax? Is the action too close together? Look at the story’s structure because the graph is the story.
Now graph everything. I like to graph the main plot, the main characters emotional arc, the secondary characters arc, and the villain’s arc, but anything can be graphed.
When these graphs are laid over each other they show data as well. Where the dots all come together usually are the big moments of the story. When the lines parallel each other that means the story is in harmony. The differences can point to parts that need work or parts where the story might be confusing to readers. How do the emotional arcs compare to each other? Do the emotional arcs connect to the main plot at the right points?  
Things to Remember – Consistency is key. +1 has to mean the same throughout the whole story, but you are the one making these determinations. Be honest, don’t try and make a graph that fits some mold, plot the story, and see what it looks like.
Everything is relative. It’s the Whose Line Is It Anyway mentality, “It’s all made up and the points don’t matter.” What matters is that the writer knows what they mean.
Each new story will have a different set of values. For different graphs of the same story use the same scene point values. New points will be needed for different books though.
So why listen to Kurt Vonnegut and me? Story graphing can be fun, but it can also help edit, help plot, or help you see that your book is just like all those bestsellers and classics.
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simplexitly · 11 months ago
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Not good reads, but better. Jumping on the bandwagon with these posts!
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maxalotlxl · 11 months ago
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Reading Goal 2023
I only started reading again in late June 2023, so I wanted to keep my goal easy and started by saying a book a month so by the end of the year I would read 7 books, I upped it to 10 for an actual reading goal.
I tracked my reads on both Story Graph and Goodreads, but I only upped the goal on Goodreads so I could see the difference.
Now in my personal reading goal this year I didn't want to count Comics, Graphic Novels and Manga but I did track them on these apps to gain benefit from the recommendation bit.
So my original goal was 10 books, and my most updated reading goal on good reads is 35. As of 30th of December 2023, when I'm writing this I have read 34 books. I do think I'll finish the extra book before we hit 2024 because I'm reading through All Systems Red by Martha Wells on Audiobook and have less than an hour to go.
As of right now I don't know what I'll put as my 2024 reading goal because obviously one book a month was too low of a goal but I won't be putting an outrageous goal either because I'm not going to allow a goal ruin my fun of reading.
I might set it at 50 and if I quickly approach that goal I'll increase it. We'll see.
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iphigeniarising · 1 year ago
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StoryGraph users, what do you do when the app lists the wrong number of pages for the edition you're reading ? Do you just stick with the correct edition or switch to one that might be wrong but has the same or similar number of pages ?
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mentally-disturbed-bookworm · 3 months ago
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riftenhobbit · 11 months ago
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Considering this is the first year I have properly taken up reading as a hobby again, I’m so proud of myself, like this is the most books I’ve read in a while!
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aliencomicinvasion · 1 year ago
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I got a tablet to use as an e-reader and wanted a way to keep track of what books are on my to be read pile since it's harder to keep track of digital books especially with my ever changing Libby books.
Unfortunately Goodreads doesn't seem to have a good way to order your tbr pile on mobile so I downloaded that story graph good reads alternative Tumblr was talking about a while back.
Y'all Story Graph not only has a quick queue option on their tbr shelf, but there's also a way to import your good reads info with just a few clicks. I'm in love!
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serenityatnight · 11 months ago
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Math tells us the saddest love stories
"Parallel lines were never meant to meet"
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"Tangent lines only meet once and grow apart forever"
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"Asymptotes get closer and closer but will never be together "
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la-libreria-chula · 1 year ago
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Anticipated books for Aug.-Sept ✨️ I can't believe it's already half the year 😭 and I'm already seeing Halloween decorations in stores! Anyhoo, I have any books I want to read coming up for Latinx Heritage Month as well as for the spooky season so I found some books that I think would fit both themes. Although there's going to be more spooky reads later tbh 😅 Some books came out years ago (trying to bring books from my tbr 📚) and some books are coming out soon and they sound so good!
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bradrcook · 6 months ago
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My interview with the Way-Word Writers Podcast. We talked about Story Graphing which is a cool editing tool, my books, publishing, and Agent 355 of the Culper Spy Ring. I had a blast. Watch the YouTube video and see the graphs or visit waywordwriters.com to listen in. www.bradrcook.com
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sugas6thtooth · 1 year ago
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regicidal-defenestration · 5 months ago
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To carry on from my last post I'd also like to make something up entirely (possibly) and propose this curve, not applicable in a way even close to being universal, but it does illustrate my point right now:
How Much Does A Form Of Media Need To Explain Its Existence (eg, Framing Devices)?
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Where in an established form of media, you don't necessarily need to explain why it exists. A modern book doesn't necessarily explain to you how the words are on the page, or why you know what the characters are thinking.
Compare this to older novels which tend to explain their existence much more. Don Quixote (and indeed, the chivalric romances it parodied) claimed to be translations of works from distant lands. Frankenstein and Jekyll and Hyde are epistolary.
And then, of course, once an idea gets established, people start playing around with it. You get your Houses of Leaves - a book made of an annotated manuscript of an essay of a film (if I remember all the levels correctly) - works that break the fourth wall or play with their own truthfulness.
We start by asking "why does this exist?" and we get told letters, a story found, a story told, and we grow comfortable in these answers for a while until once again we find ourselves asking "okay, but why?"
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kazz-brekker · 8 days ago
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i am going to achieve a good grade in "beating the minimum amount of words required each day" something which is normal to want and possible to achieve
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its-no-biggie · 4 months ago
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me finishing a good story: wow i need more of this immediately *opens ao3*
me finishing a GREAT story: wow. *doesnt even think about consuming anything else for the next 3 days*
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