#stop the shit with Vic
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I feel that the 2003 Teen Titans cartoon has a weird chokehold over a lot of the DC fandom, particularly the parts that don't actually READ or even like COMICS, to the point where this show, whose creators openly admit had to be simple enough for a toddler to follow, largely informs a lot of fans' interpretations of some pretty complex characters, themes and continuity. The show, specifically, can tend to become nostalgia bait, and I think it's due time for a lot of this fandom to take off their rose-tinted glasses and let the show go.
Like I enjoyed the show growing up and I still have a soft spot for episodes like Lightspeed and Hide & Seek, but...frankly it's a simple show tailored to young kids that just does not, and was never meant to, do justice to the Titans' comic canon. This show could never have done Who is Donna Troy? and conveyed the unlabelableness of Donna and Dick's relationship, but it was never supposed to. Characterisations are intentionally dumbed down, themes are broken down into bite-sized morals, half of the show is dedicated to comedy, and character development is purposely few and far between because this show was designed for kids aged 2-11. And all that is fine but it's just not at all a reflection of what the Titans really are in print. It should not really inform any serious reading of the DC comic universe.
On the one hand, I really didn't need to see a Red X comic arc or Starfire talking in broken english in a comic, it's all just cheap nostalgia bait that people need to stop falling for. It's sacrificing theme in favour of cheap references. On the other hand, I do think the fans I'm talking about probably owe it to themselves to a) be a little more honest and critical about their engagement with DC media, and b) challenge themselves more when engaging in media to avoid wallowing in flanderized fluff.
#all i do i talk about THEME but god stop sleeping on theme; especially favour of stupid references to old shit#i actually loved that show as a kid but like idk i kinda...just...like...i grew up you know?#and now i occasionally post trash on tumblr about T-rated picture books :P#teen titans#teen titans 2003#teen titans cartoon#titans#titans dc#new teen titans#dc comics#comics#dick grayson#donna troy#wally west#raven#koriand'r#vic stone#gar logan#anti teen titans 2003#anti teen titans cartoon
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Imagine that after months of Tim isolating themselves they finally come out
But instead of being their normal self
They look empty
They feel empty
Their voice is empty
They are like a husk
As if they finally lose themselves
auguhgaaghuggh................ the others are so worried about poor vic... but vic is barely responsive to anything
#tommy's foolery#honestly it's kind of fucked up that only then people start to worry about vic........#i feel like the company just like. completely shuts down because everyone's just. 'holy shit what the fuck happened'#for the most part it was functioning as usual while vic had shut themselves off because that's not that abnormal#but then everyone sees the state they're in and things just....... stop#tommy's stickmen tag#tommy's aus#tommy's stick!alan#amnesia!alan au
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rant for why sabrevine is literally the only healthy endgame for logan⤵️⤵️⤵️
if he got with anyone else, it doesnt matter how much love they show him, how much they take care of him, theyll never get him. without going thru the same experiences, theyre forever just tolerating him. he doesnt need someone who says 'logan, your hearts better than this' when it gets bad, he needs someone who empathizes. someone whos expectations n views arent based on the whole hero facade he puts on. someone who knows him cuz they can actually properly comprehend who he really is. not just the bad bits, i mean who he is underneath everything.
ffs his whole character is that he constantly feels this wall between him and everyone else, especially other mutants. no matter how much he tries, how much good he does, he still feels separate. an outsider. getting with someone whos on the otherside of the wall isnt gonna help, its gonna just put even more pressure on him. a constant reminder of what he isnt. every single time he does, theres this overhanging worry hes gonna hurt them just for being what he is. and that hurts him.
he needs someone worse than he is, in the same way that he is, so he can finally drop the weight of needing to fit the mold. to be able to show all the repressed parts of himself and actually feel seen while doing so.
#sabrevine#wolvertooth#logan howlett#its genuinely so fucked they make this answer so obvious but never go thru with it.#he doesnt need to stop doing silly wolverine adventures. sabretooth can still be a merc. them dating doesnt suddenly stop that.#(vic was literally still a merc during his inverted arc)#THE HAPPY ENDING WOULDNT END THE COMIC STORIES!!!!!#its just about the concept of having someone to come home to after all the shit they deal with during the day....
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just saw a screenshot of a quote tweet where the original tweet was someone excitedly pointing out a detail in Taylor Swift's new music video and the quote tweet was someone going 'Taylor Swift is QAnon for white women'. and goddamn you know the woman was right. why DO you gotta be so mean
#tswift 🤝 reylo#'these things have some annoying fans but more IMPORTANTLY'#'i've decided that anyone who likes them is a White Woman and that's my cue to be vile without guilt!!'#'also i've decided liking them gives you a nebulous air of racism so i'll call people racist or make comparisons to nazi shit casually'#idc if you don't like either of them! you don't have to! i don't care for reylo! but you can like. not be a piece of shit about it#if you have criticisms make them just stop throwing around 'jokes' like this godd#vic talks
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He’s such a loser bro
#rambling#ppl only watch his streams to see him get drunk and cry#I really used to watch his videos bro what the fuck was wrong with me#back when he was doing the war in chiraq but stopped after Vic Mensa called him a bitch to his face and didn’t do anything about it but sit#there while abandoning that same channel he used poor black ppl in Chicago to get his first bit of clout off of#aka is literally drake’s number 1 dick eater I’m glad I stopped watching his videos years ago#he never used to talk about real hip hop news only drama and Drake#Kendrick got the Pulitzer award and all sorts of accomplishments over the years and i remember aka literally never making any videos about#them despite him being a popular hip hop news outlet#like he legit would hardly ever mention Kendrick on his channel#because he’s a Drake fan he’s so embarrassing bro#all of these hip hop media outlets have been so bad for the culture surrounding the genre for years man#aka being erm. ground zero for more of the really loud and obnoxious shit that’s been going on for the last ten years or so#then you have nbs and whites like adam22 speaking on the genre as if their opinions actually matter#and cam’ron and mase being in drake’s pocket and criticizing Kendrick for replying back to drake’s diss 17 days later despite Drake taking#weeks to almost a full month to do so himself#and the fact that he never responded back to pusha t… like what kind of line of thinking even is this and they’re supposed to be some of#the ‘real hip hop’ guys folding like barbz
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Why did the links in my bio change, tumblr 🤨
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-leans into the mic-
Y’all need to stop sleeping on black artists~
#Vic speaks his mind#For real#I just got a commission done by a friend I made on toyhouse#And their style is pure fucking eye candy#Literally shit that belongs in a professional studio#Stop sleeping on black artists.#Commission black artists#Promote black art#It literally shaped this country so stop playin
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y'all I need this job so bad just talking about it got me fixating on all the cool shit I could do if they gave me it
#let me fix your lgbtq services i will do so goooooooooood#let me train staff and meet parents and connect with other organizations please im going to tear my hair out doing micro work#i love helping people but if i dont stop bad agencies and policies i might implode fr#vic van dyke shit
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The Question #8 (1987)
#book club#the question#vic sage#dc comics#comics#needle#needles#ask me if you need a new tag for that#anyway a rare moment of vulnerability from Vic at a time when he's completely convinced he's about to die#when i said that he has an obsession with second chances i seriously meant it#and again i think Spaulding is a fantastic antagonist. stories that make you wonder what 'doing good' means#and whether justification can come from motives#because objectively speaking its very bad to burn people or skin them alive. obviously very bad.#and yet hes doing so much good through his other actions that you have to stop and think about how people aren't just one thing#no one's a saint and no one is a devil.#to paraphrase vic himself later on: maybe there's not one good person in the whole world#Vic's been a real piece of shit. does all the good he's doing now atone for all of the horrible things he's done?#is atonement even Possible?#does it matter?#can we get that quote thats like 'I CARE IF I'M GOOD!' because i think it's fitting here#anyway on a lighter note i think the professor he mentions here could be Tot based on other clues he gives.#which would be kind of funny since tot clearly doesnt give a shit
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Hey I’m new in town and I want every human being on this planet to explode including and especially myself
-some alter who doesn’t have a name yet
#everybody else in the system is feeling tainted and corrupt for experiencing emotions#and ig I’m here to hate everyone bc everyone deserves it#Riley and Vic need to stop wanting to help people and repair the world#the world hasn’t done shit for us and nobody deserves anything from us
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sigh i wish i had muse to come back, but i've lost it for anything marv.el NOW ANIME, I'll rp as go/jo any day
#. ooc . vic stop talking#listen i used to rp as darcy and gojo and her are similar okay i can do it#EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED ON TUMBLR AND I HATE IT#been gone a year and shit is different pls
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#the world at large is lucky i swore off starting fights bc the amount of people i'd be sinking my teeth into rn is Immense#like we're lucky i deleted my twitter and refuse to make another one#bc holy shit i'd be getting in FIGHTS#how hard is it to not take this shit seriously. it's FAKE. it's FAKE ok NONE OF IT IS REAL.#calm!!! down!!!!#people have stopped playing because of OVERZEALOUS SHIPPERS.#people have stopped playing because of OVERZEALOUS EGG FANS#people have said they were considering breaks from the server for OVERZEALOUS FANS#NONE OF THIS IS AN INTERIOR PROBLEM. COMPLETELY EXTERIOR.#so when people are like OMG I HATE THAT [redacted] GUY WHAT A DRAG stfu you're the one ruining the goddamn fun#stop attacking people. stop overstepping boundaries. we are WATCHING. we are WATCHING. holy shit how many times#how many times am i gonna have to watch fandoms fail to learn this#i'm not even old but i'm Feeling My Age#calm the FUCK down and stop RUININ THIS.#you are a FAN. you're NOT PART OF THIS. LEAVE THEM ALONE.#i'm exhausted. how much shit is gonna get ruined before we can finally stop RELEARNING THIS ALL THE DAMN TIME#i'n so tired stop ruining this for everyone else#the world at large is lucky i've sworn off starting fights there would be Blood fr ugh#shut up vic#block game brainrot#negativity#yeah i'm bringing back the negativity tag for this i'm genuinely so mad#how many fucking times fr
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MY FUCKING JAW DROPPED AGAGHAGAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OP THIS IS FUCKING AMAZING
THE RETURN OF COVID Horror/thriller movie style!! I don't think I could find enough words to express how much I love doing those posters............ For this one, I felt like the cast of "antagonists" of the movie would make for a pretty awesome composition and mood, and paired with the church setting I think I got something pretty interesting, haha. More below!
As it happens, a fandom friend asked if I could maybe some day record my process, and therefore I did! (and went the extra mile adding goofy horror songs to it...) Check it out if you're interested :)
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I've detailed it in the YT vid description as well, but my process is rather straightforward. I tend to be a "lazy person" in that I like to, ideally, spend the least time possible on anything, and so far this process is how I've best achieved that while still managing some rather complex pieces. I like to be extremely rough with my sketches and prioritize dynamism and composition, and I usually take my time repositioning the characters until I'm satisfied before I go any further. I don't have the best mental visualization so I usually try to have a very rough idea of what I want before I directly jump to sketching and mostly ideate there. The lineart is very straightforward as well. I come back later to adjust line thickness here and there but otherwise I just "trust my brush". The fake fisheye perspective is entirely wrong and made up so I needed some custom perspective lines to know roughly how to position the background elements.
I do come back with composition guides after I'm done with the lineart, just to check how the illustration is doing. I prefer not to use them at first because it tends to "constrain" me a bit too much, and I like to remain very free as to maintain a feeling of spontaneity, which is why I will only fix the composition afterwards (when I do). Coloring is then fairly streamlined, with background colors/atmosphere guiding the overall color scheme followed by character coloring and additional details. The most fun part comes with the post-processing, where I go wild with additional fog and light shaft layers to add depth to the entire thing. I use a bunch of additional tone curve layers to adjust the colors and make it more uniform, as well as one blurred, flattened copy of the illustration with strengthened contrasts, in overlay mode, to add some vibrance, and a noise layer for texture. That's it! Thanks for watching, for those interested :))
#ALEXA SET A REMINDER TO WATCH THE PROCESS VIDEO LATER#CRYING SHITTING THROWING UP#HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS GODDAMN EPIC#OP im so happy you love doing these posters bc istg im such a sucker for poster-style art and you've been FEEDING me so good#AND THIS HAS GOT TO BE MY FAVORITE YET#VILLAINS BAD GUYS HOLY SHIT#AND THE SETTING#TWEEK AND CRAIG HANGING FROM THE RAFTERS HELP#THE WAY YOU DRAW VIC CHAOS MY FUCKING LAWD#PRINTING THIS AND FRAMING IT TO PUT ON MY WALL WHAT THE HELL#THE RED-GREEN LIGHTING IM SHITTINGGGGGGGG ITS SO GOOD#I LOVE YOU MTKMSP#HELP MEEEEEEE#I CANT STOP STARING AT THIS
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5 minutes and i again see
someone: *makes a joke about how taylor swift should tell people to kill ron desantis for her because it would be super effective*
someone else: haha, no she wouldn't say it right out. Here's a string of emojis and let me explain what the references are, as Taylor Swift is wont to play little games with promoting stuff where she knows her fans have often been with her throughout her career and will get references to specific songs/albums/events, therefore allowing her to create decodable messages
someone else: WOW THIS IS JUST LIKE QANON
#can we stop. fucking please#are you gonna start reblogging people excitedly pointing out references and layered meaning in things like. superhero movies and novels#with 'omg you're reading into something and deciphering a message the creator fully intended you to find? for fun? just like qanon....'#or is it just that you see taylor swift fans as fair game because Haha White Women#i don't actually care if it's juuuuust a joooooke! it's nasty and pointless and makes light of a fucking terrifying conspiracy theory#because you find a pop star and/or her fans annoying#it's fine to be like. wow fans who have weird theories they go really hard on (like the 'she's secretly queer!!' people)#are on some next level shit. like the 'haha what the fuck' that TJLC or whatever was going on with 1D did#but almost everything has weird/annoying/boundary-crossing fans#and i shockingly don't think it's OK to compare all of them to a virulently hateful conspiracy movement#that actively tried/tries to stir up violence#vic talks#this has been Joke Police (Because Yeah Good Taste And Not Being A Dick Applies Even If You're Progressive) Hour with vic
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moments in a cutscene in a video game that’s glitching out that i’m electing to not stop thinking about:
the crew scream laughing throughout
josh’s insane slow motion
the weeping “there’s no crying in baseball” wedding vows
“an honor to punch your children”
the far too real zac story prompt and brennans visible pain
“all the freaky little goths who smell like frito bags”
the talkback after josh’s prompt with the grandma
sam being the first to jump in on the tiny desk performance
“shit.” (and josh fully losing it)
paul as a rodeo clown
the fact that no two-person prompt remained two people, the third person always jumped in
brennan justifying the stupid part of the prompt
paul’s triumphant return to save person he matched with from being attacked by a centaur. wordlessly. (it’s paul. he could have found a mic. he didn’t need to.)
“thank you, lou. i’m sorry, uh, uh, vic. i’m sorry, uh, jacob.”
“a lotta shit really went sideways in my life for me to end up living in this houseboat with you two.”
the beauty of all their impressions of each other (and the initial confusion over who was gonna be who)
and, of course, josh’s first win!!!
this episode is incredible, i’m pumped for the rest of the season, and i have already watched it three times.
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Fast Car Three (of four)
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“Why would I ever need help from Victor?” Danny scrunched up his brow and puzzled aloud after his passenger got out. He didn't mean to be rude but he was genuinely confused. Vic seemed nice enough, but he was kinda delicate, wasn't he? He was scared of Batman. What for? He was just some guy who was so risk-averse that he wore a motorcycle helmet out in public. He probably held the world's record for diagnosed anxiety disorders or something.
‘I’m lucky he's so reactive,’ Danny chided himself not to be ungrateful. ‘If he wasn't, like, hyper-vigilant I might have had to talk to Batman. Horrific.’
He shuddered at the thought. He had planned to work a little more, but Danny decided to go back home and rest for a bit. His nerves were a little shot after the excitement of the morning.
Oh, right. He hadn't checked what his tip was yet. Danny unfolded the bills and his eyes bugged out. “This is fifty dollars,” he said incredulously. “He paid me fifty dollars to take him like 10 blocks, with a 50 block detour.”
Was Victor, like, okay? Danny cast a dubious look back in his rearview mirror and caught the barest glance of Victor's ridiculously jacked form disappearing into one of the murder warehouses. What a guy. Why'd he do-
“He was hitting on me?” Danny's voice reached a whistle pitch. Ah! Ah!!! Holy shit. What the hell? His face burnt red and he floored it back to his apartment complex, trying to get his heart rate under control.
It was so obvious in retrospect! The weird awkward pauses in conversation! The huge tips! Asking for his number!
Danny pulled to a stop at a yellow light rather than run it explicitly so that he could bang his head against the steering wheel.
“I don't even know if he's hot,” Danny wailed. Instantly he knew it was a lie. He didn't know what Victor’s face looked like. He didn't remember what the photo had looked like anymore and the information was long gone. But he knew that Victor was tall, fit as fuck, and had really nice hands.
Danny bit his lip and howled sadly. It helped, a little. He stole a glance at the receipt with Victor's phone number on it. He couldn't help but memorize the number.
“I'm not going to call,” Danny told himself. Even if it was flattering. Victor might be a sketchy guy! Only sketchy people were out at the hours Danny worked. Danny couldn't afford association with anyone like that because he needed the authorities to never ever look at him.
Also, and probably more importantly: you can't go to medical school if you have any kind of criminal record. If Danny was going to be Doctor Fenton the fourth and be able to provide his and Ellie's medical care, he needed to be a model citizen. He couldn’t trust that Vic would keep him out of whatever weird shit he was involved in.
Well. It wasn't like he was complicit in anything. Danny parked his beloved shitty car in the garage and took the stairs up to his apartment. He opened the door, saw Batman in his kitchen, and closed the door.
“Fuck.”
Danny turned intangible and dropped like a rock through the floors. He was back in the driver's seat in less than 5 seconds. He turned it on and called Victor with one hand, because he'd just gotten the guy's number and he didn't exactly know a lot of Gothamites. “Hey, what do I do if Batman is in my apartment?” He said as soon as it connected. He turned the car on and peeled out onto the street.
“Wha- move, I guess. Is he there for fucking real?” Victor's electronic voice somehow managed to come across incredulous. “You probably shouldn't go back there. You're in your car?” A horn honked in the background. “You're faster,” Victor said. His confidence gave Danny a little. “I'll send you my gps point. Come to me and we can strategize how to get him off your tail.”
Danny swallowed hard. “Okay,” he said, and violently repressed the part of him asking why this nervous ass Gothamite would know any better than he did. At least Victor was a local. His phone pinged and he opened up the address. “Got it.”
“See you soon.” Victor hung up.
Danny burnt rubber out of there, heart all the way up in his throat. Why was Batman after him? What did he know? He gasped for air, feeling like he was choking. He needed to be normal. He needed to- to get his degree and get his career and never ever have a whole fucking militaristic brancho of the government after him. He was one guy. When he was 14 he'd thought it was a funny game and the GIW were a bunch of chumps. But they were a bunch of chumps with money, weapons, and numbers. He couldn't afford to fuck with them. The fact that his parents gritted their teeth through associating with the GIW was the only thing that kept suspicion off of Danny.
He cycled through a panic attack and then into anger. What the hell, dude? Danny got that Batman had a bee up his ass about metahumans “in his city” (like he fucking owned it??) but Danny wasn't causing crime or fighting it. He was going to classes and trying to survive. Batman had no right to get involved in his business.
He was steaming mad by the time he pulled up to where Victor was waiting for him. Victor hauled open an old style garage door and ushered him in quickly. Danny parked inside and sighed over the steering wheel. It took a few moments to center himself and then he got out. “Hey.” He lifted a hand in greeting and then shoved it in his pocket, feeling unimaginably weary. It wasn't even 5 am, jeeze. What was his life? “Thanks for answering.” He cleared his throat and bumped his butt against the hood of his car. “Helluva morning,” he complained dryly.
“It's no problem.” Victor seemed a little stiff and uncomfortable, standing in the middle of the other parking space. Either that or he was posing. “It's not your fault.”
Danny let out a snort. “It's not, but what does that matter?” He shrugged. And then he realized- “Wait, do you know what I am- scratch that.” He made a hand gesture to wave that away. Victor had known what Amity Park was offhand and he'd had a chance to see Danny phase the car through solid matter. “I guess what matters more is why Batman is on my ass. D’you think he knows?”
Victor looked at him for a long time. “No���”
“No, what?” Danny narrowed his eyes up at the taller man.
“I don't think Batman knows that you're…” Victor made a gesture at Danny that explained nothing. “Whatever you are. I think he wants to ask you what you know about me.”
Danny stared blankly at him. “About you,” he echoed. He gave Victor a dubious look. “Why would he care about you?”
Victor lifted a gloved finger and pointed at his helmet as if that was supposed to mean something. Danny tilted his head to the side like a bird and raised one eyebrow. “Because I'm the Red Hood?” Victor said dubiously. “You know that, right?”
“You're Victor,” Danny said. He furrowed his brows. “Is - is The Red Hood like, your drag persona or something? Cool for you but it's not really relevant -”
Victor tore off the helmet to reveal a face that was a lot younger than Danny had anticipated. “It's not a drag persona,” he snapped. “It's- I'm the Red goddamn Hood! You have to have seen me on the news!”
Danny mutely shook his head. He thought about saying that he didn’t watch the news, but he sort of felt bad for the guy. It was probably safer not to comment.
“It's been non-stop,” Victor said, and Danny could really tell how incredulous he felt without that goofy voice filter effect removing the pout from his voice. “I dropped 13 human heads off at the police station yesterday. Come on!”
He blinked.
Wait.
One.
Second.
“You had me take you to the police with contraband?” Danny roared, incandescent with fury.
“Uh.” Victor looked a little shifty now, even with that dweeb ass mask covering from his eyebrows to his cheekbones. “Yeah, I guess-”
“I'm going to go to medical school!” Danny roared, and suplexed the bastard. Victor went down with a howl and a valiant attempt to dig out Danny's eye with his bent index and middle fingers. Danny went selectively intangible and rolled them both over to start slapping Victor on his stupid face. “I-” slap “can't” slap “have” slap “a criminal record!” He leaned so far forward that his lips were nearly touching Victor's. “Capiche?” Danny jabbed a finger into Victor's stupidly ripped chest.
“Um.”
“Capiche? Understand? Do you get my meaning?” Danny howled. “I am an illegal entity! My paperwork is suspect!” He dug his knees a little harder into Victor's sides, struggling to control his strength.
“Hey man, me too,” said Victor. He seemed mildly surprised by this commonality. “That's why I can't get a driver's license.” He put his hands up by his head. The movement made his incredible biceps sort of…pulse. Bulge?
Danny blinked, attention caught by something about what Victor had said. “How'd you get your Uber account verified without- oh my god!” He threw his hands up in disgust. “You're not even Victor, are you? Your first word to me was a lie?”
Not-Victor laughed. Danny was surprised enough that he loosened his grip. But the other guy didn't try to get out. “You're fun,” he said. He had a nice smile, crooked and kissable. Oh, fuck.
Danny felt his whole face burn red. Shit. Abort. He scrambled up, suddenly mortified that he was sitting on the other guy. “What's your name?” he demanded, trying to sound unaffected and mean.
“Jay.”
“You're sure this time?” Danny managed to work up a little more indignation.
“Hands to god, on my grave,” Jay promised. Danny sort of hated that he believed it.
Danny relented. “Fine.” It wasn’t like he had any moral high ground to stand on about maintaining secret identities, if he was honest. He huffed and crossed his arms. “How do I get Batman off my ass? I'm guessing you don't want me to talk to him about you.”
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