#stop exploiting artists

[wetheepiphany]

so i just heard about this today, and needless to say, i'm disappointed and frustrated i already pay an incredibly pricey monthly subscription just to use this app and now its using my data in ways i did NOT consent to? to an extent, i can understand apps and websites that provide FREE services doing this- but a MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION PAID service?

...if you don't see new art from us for a while (save for one new piece we finished before learning this news), we might be in the process of finding and learning a new digital art program (that is hopefully both cheaper and isn't exploiting our work without our consent)

In case y'all haven't heard, Adobe has officially lost its damn mind. Not only have they added, in no uncertain terms, giving themselves any and all possible rights to anything you create with their software, they made it so you have to accept these updated terms before you can access support (to clarify/ask questions) or cancel your subscription. :)

[spitblaze]

If you guys could talk about the existence of generative software and nerual nets without suggesting artists nuke their portfolios off of the Internet for their own safety (the datasets have Already Been Scraped btw so that won't even help) that would be very nice. Thanks

[loreleyfromouterspace]

Controversial opinion (maybe?) but if your article/video/wtvr about a positive vision of the future where humanity lives in harmony wih nature uses AI art to visualise said future I automatically loose all respect for you

[goblin-biscuits]

I’m rebranding AI to BM, for bootleg machine. Let’s call it what it is.

[lususnatura]

🎤

a song that i associate with my muse meme!

hiii, holly! thank you for the ask :D so, this one is going to include a song in it that i'm not really sure is very popular, BUT eff it we ball as they say LMAO (as explanation as to why i chose this song will be in the tags):

timbre timbre - grifting.

[voluptuarian]

I swear to God a third of this book is in french

[candyrushsweetest]

People Don’t Understand...

AI art has most definitely used children in those inappropriate artworks.

It doesn’t matter how much that an AI “art” program wants to deny it. Millions of photos exist within those tags and photos. You don’t know where the AI is GETTING those images.

You just think you’re getting free p0rn, don’t you?

I understand that some people can’t always afford to commission an artist, but why go to a program that is exploiting children since it analyzes photos and art from the Internet?

Who is to say that you didn’t exploit and harm a kid by just generating it?

I know for a FACT that it exploits children. There are some art programs that don’t even block out the word CHILD from their generator.

They are purposefully ignoring it so they can’t claim liability when this type of “art” can exploit children to unknowing individuals without any knowledge of how AI works.

They look through databases and try to “de-fuse” the image from all those random things they found via the prompt provided.

Children might have used some of the words you put in those prompts, so you may come across something you didn’t want to.

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So, what’s your opinion on this?

[obstinaterixatrix]

Well in the end it comes down to recognizing when you can’t have a good faith conversation. I can understand the arguments being made and where it comes from but I fundamentally disagree with some of the foundations of these beliefs and will not budge. Nuance necessitates some alignment, I think.

[manndelion]

Fuck RedBubble

After only paying their artists a small fraction of what's sold on their platform they're now switching to charging a monthly fee to sell through them.

I've henceforth removed all of my art and uploaded a nifty little profile banner because frankly, I'm fucking sick of it.

[inazuma-fulgur]

Why do 99% of leftists seem to have never questioned their ideas around ownership?

Which is one of the most basic ideas to challenge and still I see almost everyone spread capitalist rhetoric and propaganda, including high profile/educated people

[vinkumakkara]

doesn’t matter that i don’t really even do commercial art. doesn’t matter that if you could take my personal art out of the datasets these robots use (you can’t btw) it wouldn’t change what they generate one bit. i still didn’t and wouldn’t ever consent to my work being used as kindling for these automated commission services. i find it goddamn insulting

[hera-the-shoggoth]

There's nothing inherently destructive about machines or mechanized art. Capitalism is the reason artists starve, not automation. Orwell is not theory and the Luddites were wrong to attack the machines and not the robber landlords; to attack the thing that eliminated their job and not the people responsible for them needing to sell their bodies to a private employer to survive in the first place.

My god my girlies

MY GIRLIES. I am still crying, I am still crying about this. Every day I cry about this.

You bitched so hard about being forced to read 1984 in school when it’s so problematic (tm)

Maybe you should have actually paid attention when you read it

Because all these AI fics

You are LITERALLY MAKING THE GARBAGE NOVELS FROM 1984 that are written by machines

You have literally recreated the worthless soulless machine-made books

Literally,

Literally. Every once in a while it hits me in a fresh wave of disbelief and anger. You have literally created the dystopian book from the dystopian story about why dystopia is bad, and you are passing it around like it’s this amazing thing. I’m crying, I’m crying.

[simp-pluto]

Hey guys maybe let’s not use AI generated art? :(

[sainamoonshine]

A note to all creatives:

Right now, you have to be a team player. You cannot complain about AI being used to fuck over your industry and then turn around and use it on somebody else’s industry.

No AI book covers. No making funny little videos using deepfakes to make an actor say stuff they never did. No AI translation of your book. No AI audiobooks. No AI generated moodboards or fancasts or any of that shit. No feeding someone else’s unfinished work into Chat GPT “because you just want to know how it ends*” (what the fuck is wrong with you?). No playing around with AI generated 3D assets you can’t ascertain the origin of. None of it. And stop using AI filters on your selfies or ESPECIALLY using AI on somebody else’s photo or artwork.

We are at a crossroad and at a time of historically shitty conditions for working artists across ALL creative fields, and we gotta stick together. And you know what? Not only is standing up for other artists against exploitation and theft the morally correct thing to do, it’s also the professionally smartest thing to do, too. Because the corporations will fuck you over too, and then they do it’s your peers that will hold you up. And we have a long memory.

Don’t make the mistake of thinking “your peers” are only the people in your own industry. Writers can’t succeed without artists, editors, translators, etc making their books a reality. Illustrators depend on writers and editors for work. Video creators co-exist with voice actors and animators and people who do 3D rendering etc. If you piss off everyone else but the ones who do the exact same job you do, congratulations! You’ve just sunk your career.

Always remember: the artists who succeed in this career path, the ones who get hired or are sought after for commissions or collaboration, they aren’t the super talented “fuck you I got mine” types. They’re the one who show up to do the work and are easy to get along with.

And they especially are not scabs.

*that’s not even how it ends that’s a statistically likely and creatively boring way for it to end. Why would you even want to read that.

[starblaster]

"but if you're pro-union, why are you anti-cop-union?" because cops are not laborers. what cops do is not labor. they are enforcers of the laws that oppress laborers and exist solely to protect capital. don't bother me with stupid questions.

🛑 STOP asking me to make the post rebloggable. i refuse to let a bunch of anticommunists, libertarian anarchists, neoliberal spooks, and other pro-cop fascists pass around their bad-faith additions on a post if i can help it (which i can, by disabling reblogs) while others of you are saying some really misguided, off-topic shit, and it’s pissing me off.

please get your facts straight before embarrassing yourselves on the internet. for fucking ONCE in your lives.

i am not “redefining labor” i SAID that cops are not LABORERS (EXPLOITED WORKERS) unionizing to receive better working conditions for the betterment of their fellow workers. they participate in collective bargaining with the express goal of subjugating and abusing the working class by protecting their fellow cops who harass, brutalize, stalk, rape, and kill the poor, homeless, working class, and other marginalized people. OTHER, ACTUAL LABOR UNIONS also use collective bargaining power to protect their members. if you argue otherwise, i’m sorry but you need to get serious and examine not only the truth about what a labor union is and does but why our purposes and missions and goals as unions are what they are. clarification aside, here, that wasn’t the fucking point of this post! the derailing and misunderstandings of what a LABOR UNION IS that occurred in the short time this post was rebloggable was too insane not to shut off reblogs!

COP unions, LIKE I SAID IN THE ORIGINAL/ABOVE POST, ARE UNIFIED IN DIAMETRIC OPPOSITION TO THE LIBERATION OF WORKERS, AS IN PEOPLE WHO DO LABOR (WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE THE LITERAL ARMED PROTECTORS OF CAPITAL)

NO OTHER UNION BASHES, KILLS, OR ARRESTS STRIKING WORKERS LIKE COP (OR PRISON GUARD) UNIONS DO.

if you agree with the post so much that you NEED it on your blog or whatever, post a screenshot of the original post with this part cropped out and leave me the fuck alone! THANK YOUUU!!!!!!!

and to the wiseasses saying screenwriters and actors "aren't laborers, either," are you just fucking stupid actually? you think artistic labor isn’t labor? shut the fuck up.

[bilbobagginsomebabez]

is anybody else upset that instead of authors' unions and the development of labor power, every ounce of discourse and effort towards writers making a living wage is geared towards digital intellectual property rights and digital theft protection. like i don't know about anybody else but I am actually not excited for major publishing companies to be algorithmically searching for and DMCA striking books that are "similar enough" to their copyright. I don't trust AI to be able to tell when something is adulterated metadata vs when something is just very similar. I fucking hate DRM already. I hate buying a book and either being restricted in use of my property or taking it through multiple complicated steps to remove it for an epub file compatible with calibre, where I can file and tag it appropriately.

and i don't think we're going to find any kind of salvation for writers and writing this way. I think we're going to launch another digital arms race (like with removing DRM) while continuously empowering the already wealthy to consolidate power and crush meaningful change through slap suits and the like.

and this is because digital theft is the only problem that the publishing industry is willing to address. because strengthening intellectual property protections doesn't protect art or artists, it allows the big players to better control the playing field and force it to benefit themselves.

Okay, this may prove useful.