#stan sj

[mccromy]

It's so funny how SJ stans are like "nonono you don't get it actually LBH was in love with SJ no wait LBH also deserved the lifelong childhood trauma. SJ sensed the evil SJ didn't KNOW the manual was fake—".

And SY stans are like "I need this man PREGNANT by YESTERDAY outta my way Luo Bingay I'm about to fuck your wife through the fourth wall go sit inside the cuckcage."

Diametrically opposite priorities

[mxtxfanatic]

General rule of thumb, but if someone says that physically assaulting someone to vent your anger is abusive, and you respond by arguing that it depends on the kind of physical assault (whipping, slapping, beating) that is being inflicted on which kind of individual (child, friend, servant, person of lower status) by what kind of person (their parent, random adult), then maybe it’s time to admit that you simply support abusive behavior. Because if you have to add a thousand and one caveats to a simple statement, you probably just don’t agree with that simple statement 💀

[thegoldenavenger]

Who's gonna write me the Liu Qingge / Shen Jiu kismessitude I deserve. That they deserve. Come on fated rivalry romance for the ages.

Liu "Stop sullying yourself you're better than that" Qingge. Liu "You could be so great if you worked on your cultivation" Qingge. Liu "I've never lost a fight but I still want to fight you" Qingge. Liu "give him a shred of kindness and he'll return it two fold" QINGGE

Vs

Shen "you're everything I wish I was" Jui. Shen "you've never once experienced something you cant recover from" Jiu. Shen "ambushes you even though ive got no chance of winning" Jiu. Shen "I hate you I'll kill you, I won't just leave you to die on your own by yourself even if it condemns me" JIU

Like???????? They loathe each other your honor. To the death.

(Yue Qingyuan, world's least effective and most annoying club. Yue Qingyuan, world's most vacillating quadrant smear, he might as well be club lights for how quickly he swaps between ♧ and ◇ and ♡ for shen qingqiu)

(yqy who is the one who TOLD sqq to treat lqg kindly. To get him on sqq's side. Yqy who wanted to slip the (metaphorical) hilt of lqg's (metaphorical) sword in sqq's hand. To watch sqq weild lqg like a weapon instead of fight against each other.)

(Liu Qingge dying destroys Shen Qingqiu's life in a way not even YQY's does? Lqg dying is what dooms sqq. It is the pin on which his whole trial rests. Sqq couldn't save him, and in the end couldn't, wouldnt, save himself either. What is that if not soul mates in hate!!!????)

[wishjacked]

u know what? fine. *draws my guys like they're a cartoon*

here's the lil antag crew too. they get to have more detail because they're special <3 (aka they show up less often so the AU version of myself that makes cartoons can afford to put more time into them)

[shenjiudefender]

i’m not a shen jiu apologist because that would mean he has something to apologize for

[holy--milk]

ngl i wasn't big on bingqiu the first time i read SVSSS, but after seeing some truly mind-numbingly stupid bingqiu/LBH takes... i think they've grown on me quite a bit lmao.

[rainbowpui]

I don't get why are they calling us SJ's apologists we never say that abusing LBH was right we just like to point out the fact that SJ (canonically) hasn't abused Any other discipline but LBH yes SY thinks he did but I don't take SY's opinion on SJ seriously

i feel like its bc they want to have complete control over how fandom at large gets to perceive the characters. a lot of BNFs back in the day hated on sj and a lot of the translators had an anti sj bias. so sympathizing with sj at ALL is seen as a threat. you should be kissing ass to the BNFs opinions and only making canon couple artwork. they dont seem to like sj stans but then they are still in our comments looking at our art and writing and complaining that it isnt sy instead the same people who usually shit on sj stans are the type of sy/lbh stans that ironically refuse to see the flaws in their own faves. tbh i think that irl ALL of the sv characters would be kinda shitty people besides like.... gyx.... and they killed him off. sj abusing lbh was wrong but sy being an internet hater is also wrong. sy manipulating ppl is understandable bc he was literally trying to stay alive but it was also wrong. lbh constantly fighting the sects, using other ppl to support his own cultivation, beating up shl, ignoring sy's boundaries over and over and threatening to literally destroy the sect so that sy has nowhere to go back to all of this is morally bad irl!!!!! but it doesnt matter!! bc they are fictional!! there are plenty of ppl who enjoy both sy and sj and acknowledge that they are both great characters with interesting quirks and neurosis without having to go on and on about how much better sy is than sj. the people that make those kinds of comparisons just want to use sj as a scapegoat to cover up sy's flaws. which is sad bc his flaws are what make him an interesting character

i think that its kind of telling too.... that as sj fans we've had people harass us and send death threats and gore into a private sj stan discord server and try to doxx people over having cute sj head canons and tell us that we must be abuse apologists irl bc of what fictional chinese homosexual we stan....

and this is coming from a subset of ppl who stan an internet hater.... and also want to claim that your fave internet characters are an indicator of your irl morality....

i think that for some people they are simply haters. and if sy was hater but still sooooooo """nice"""" and totally morally superior to this other character.... then its a way they can justify to themselves their own internet hater behavior your tastes in fictional characters say nothing about your irl morality. but the way you treat actual people in the fandom youre in says a lot. let people stan whoever they want even if you dont like that chara and mind your own business is what i say

[lovefrombegonia]

Me: No thoughts. Head empty. Only thinking about how Yue Qingyuan is 'No thoughts. Head empty. Only Xiao Jiu.'

This is some next level simp-ception. I am simping for a man who is simping for a man that I also simp for.

[chuckduckling]

That Teen Vogue article on villain woobification has so much ?????? in its choices, I honestly can't even begin to unpack my thoughts, but the funniest detail — after it directly mentions Scum Villain fandom — is that one line that criticizes how fangirls will "[inflate] real or imagined bad backstories in order to make their favorite character into a tortured soul that just needs a little love to get better."

That's literally SVSSS's plot! Shen Yuan transmigrates into a book and meets his mass-murdering tragic-backstory problematic blorbo and then fixes his tortured soul with his love!! That's the book, that's literally, that's the plot, that's what SVSSS is all about, that's, that's literally the book, I just, that's the b

[carnationcutie]

imagine being a sj stan and trying to get back at all the characters who did him wrong and make an au where yqy ends up dying alone as karma as if the dude didn't spend two separate lifetimes suffering for the crime of caring too much about sj

[mxtxfanatic]

I didn’t think this before, but the more I keep seeing this yqy/sj debacle discourse, the more I am convinced that this is another wwx/jc golden core situation, from both a story standpoint—both wwx and yqy sacrifice for jc and sj, respectively, but keep their sacrifices a secret for fear of the likely negative response to it, for which wwx is validated while sj never finds out about the sacrifice—and a fandom standpoint—“wwx/yqy is sooooo selfish for sacrificing for jc/sj and not telling him!” “The beneficiaries of someone else’s goodwill are entitled to know who helped them, how, and why, and to withhold this information makes the goodwill and the person who did it actually bad!”

[seru-doesthings]

i hate hearing ppl say "sj is a well written character but-" LIKE SHUT UPPPPP JS SAY U DONT LIKE HIMMM I DONT WANT TO SEE UR TAKES ON THE SHEN JIU TAGGGGG IF U DONT LIKE HIM THEN DONT FUCKING SHOVE UR TAKE INTO A SHEN JIU TAGGGG I DONT FOLLOW THE SHEN JIU / 沈九 TAG ON TUMBLR TO SEE PPL WHO ARENT HIS FANS TALK AB HIMMMM SHUT UPPPP IDC IF IM BUILDING AN ECHO CHAMBERRR ILL BUILD A BIGGER ONE JS TO PISS UR ASS OFFFF

like idc how u word ur argument im on fucking TUMBLR to have FUN, NOT to debate morality over a bunch of fucking fictional characters stfu stay in ur FUCKING lane and STAY the FUCK OUTTA the sj tags, thank u.

U go off and hate on him all u like and talk ab morality or whatever shit w ur ppl but DO NOT. shove it into sj stans faces. All i fucking want is to have fun w sj, give him a harem and have him railed ok THATS IT.

so hard to have fun these days 💀

[cum-villain]

just sent multiple essays to the scum villain confession blog im unwell

[holy--milk]

i'm a SJ stan and i don't even particularly like LBH as a person or as a character, but damn. some takes i see on here make me feel like a LBH defender.

[piratecomic]

fiddling!! it's my girls :) (+added G and Stan LOL)

I literally just only tried drawing these because it occurred to me that if Ginger (good artist) drew them in-comic he would draw them uhhhh "realistically"

[allpiesforourown]

SV au that’s gravity falls because uhhhh SY deserves to use all of his monster info (Mabel = SJ, obv)

You're so wrong it would be dipper/binghe and mabel/yingying. The stan twins would be shen yuan and shen jiu