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⚠️ DON’T START DISCOURSE ABOUT RPF IN THE NOTES!! YOU WILL BE BLOCKED IF YOU DO SO ⚠️
Do you ship it?
Reason:
“Lenin entrusted Stalin with the task of bringing him poison for when his illness became too much, which Stalin failed to do. Stalin was reprimanded by Lenin for being rude to Lenin's wife and said to Lenin's sister: "I did not sleep the whole night. Who does Ilyich think I am, how he regards me, as towards a traitor, I love him with all my heart. Please, somehow tell him this."”
#do you ship this rpf ship#rpf#real person fiction#rps#real person shipping#shipping#shipping poll#joseph stalin#vladimir lenin#stalenin#politicians#revolutionaries
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On the Relations between Lenin and Stalin
M.I. Ulyanova on Vladimir Ilyich Lenin’s relation towards J. Stalin:
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In the winter of 20-21, 21-22 V. Ilyich was feeling sick. He had headaches and was unable to work – Lenin was deeply disturbed. I exactly do not know when, but somehow during this period V. Ilyich told Stalin that he would probably be stricken with paralysis and made Stalin promise that in this event he would help V. Ilyich to obtain potassium cyanide. Stalin promised. Why did he appeal to Stalin with this request? Because he knew him to be an extremely strong man devoid of any sentimentality. V. Ilyich had nobody else but Stalin to approach with this type of request.
In May 1922 after his first attack he appealed to Stalin with the same request. V. Ilyich had then decided that everything was finished for him and demanded that Stalin should be brought to him immediately. This request was so insistent that nobody could gainsay it. Stalin was with V. Ilyich within 5 minutes and not more. When Stalin came out he told Bukharin and me that V. Ilyich had asked him to obtain poison. The time had come to fulfil his earlier promise. Stalin promised. V. Ilyich and Stalin kissed each other and Stalin left the room.
But later on after discussing the matter together we decided that V. Ilyich’s spirits should be raised. Stalin returned to Lenin and told him that after talking it over with the doctors he was convinced that everything was not yet lost and therefore the time for fulfilling his promise had not come. V. Ilyich noticeably cheered up and agreed. He said to Stalin, ‘you are being cunning?’ In reply Stalin said ‘when did you ever know me to be cunning?’ They parted and did not see each other till V. Ilyich’s condition improved. He was not allowed to meet his comrades.
During this period Stalin was a more frequent visitor in comparison to others. He was the first to come to V. Ilyich. Ilyich met him amicably, joked, laughed and demanded that I should treat Stalin with wine and so on. In this and in other meetings they discussed Trotsky and from their talk in front of me it was clear that here Ilyich was with Stalin against Trotsky.
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To this the other conflict was also added, and which was brought about by V. Ilyich’s letter to Stalin on 5.3.23 and which I am going to quote below. It was like this. The doctors insisted that V. Ilyich should not be informed anything about work. The maximum fear was of Nadezhda Konstantinovna discussing anything with V. Ilyich. She was so used to discussing everything with him that sometimes completely unintentionally and unwillingly she might blurt things out. The politbureau gave Stalin the charge of keeping watch so that the doctors’ instructions were maintained. It seems, one day coming to know about certain conversations between N.K. and V.I., Stalin called her to the telephone and spoke to her quite sharply thinking this would not reach V. Ilyich. He warned her that she should not discuss work with V.I. or this may drag her to the Central Control Commission of the party. This discussion deeply disturbed N.K. she completely lost control of herself – she sobbed and rolled on the floor. After a few days she told V.I. about this incident and added that they had already reconciled. Before this it seems Stalin had actually called her to smooth over the negative reaction his threat and warning had created upon her. She told Kamenev and Zinoviev that Stalin had shouted at her on the phone and it seems she mentioned the Caucasus matter.
Next morning Stalin invited me to V. Ilyich’s office. He looked upset and offended. He told me ‘I did not sleep the whole night. Who does Ilyich think I am, how he regards me, as towards a traitor, I love him with all my heart. Please, somehow tell him this.’ I felt sorry for Stalin. It seemed to me that he was sincerely distressed. Ilyich called me for something and in between I told him that the comrades were sending him regards ‘Ah’ – objected V.I. ‘And Stalin has requested me to tell you, that he loves you’. Ilyich frowned and kept quiet. ‘Then what’ – I asked ‘should I convey your greetings to him?’ ‘Convey them’ answered Ilyich quite coldly. But I continued ‘Volodia he is still the intelligent Stalin’. ‘He is absolutely not intelligent’ frowning Ilyich answered resolutely.
I did not continue the discussion and after a few days. V.I. came to know that Stalin had been rude with N.K. and Kamenev and Zinoviev knew about it. In the morning very distressed Lenin asked for the stenographer to be sent to him. Before this he asked whether N.K. had already left for Narkompros (People’s Commissariat of Enlightenment – ed. R.D.) to which he received a positive answer. When Volodicheva came V.I. dictated the following letter to Stalin:
‘Absolutely secret. Personal. Respected Comrade Stalin! You were rude enough to call my wife to the telephone and insult her. Even though she has expressed to you her willingness to forget the incident, but even then this fact came to be known through her by Zinoviev and Kamenev. I am not ready to forget so easily what has been done against me and what is done against my wife I consider as having been done against me. Therefore I ask you to inform me whether you are ready to take back what you said and apologise or whether you prefer to break off our relationship. With respect Lenin. Written by M.V. 5/III-23’.
Letter of Joseph Stalin to Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
To Com. Lenin from Stalin Personal Comrade Lenin! Five weeks ago I had a discussion with Nadezhda Konstantinovna whom I consider not only your wife, but also my senior party comrade. I told her on the telephone something very close to the following : ‘The doctors have forbidden any political information to be given to Ilyich. They consider this routine the most effective method to cure him, whereas you Nadezhda Konstantinovna are violating this routine. To play with the life of Ilyich is not allowed’. I do not think that these words can be seen as anything rude or impermissible directed ‘against’ you nor I did I proceed from any other purposes other than your quick recovery. Moreover, I think it my duty to see that this routine is maintained. My explanation to Nadezhda Konstantinovna confirms that there was nothing except a simple misunderstanding. If you think that to maintain the ‘relationship’ I must ‘take back’ the above-mentioned words, then I can take them back but I do not understand where is my ‘fault’ and what exactly is wanted from me. I. Stalin.
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Settle a debate for me
Stalin x Lenin or Lenin x Trotsky
stalin x trotsky, actually
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the communist urge to write rpf of your favorite morally grey historical figure
#inspired by this site's stalenin posting and this se asian org making a play abt trotsky assasinating stalin back with an icepick#and the mengels/karlich yaoi on twitter and tumblr etc etc#telling proshippers to join marxism because we have a thriving rpf subculture lmao#its halal comrades#textposts
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writing a deep and intricate yuri story about girls on the internet and people slowly realizing i am clearly writing modernized stalenin.
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stalenin first interaction being triggered by stalin in siberia exile writing to his friend abroad about how much more cooler and competent lenin is in his eyes compared to other party leaders to later discover his friend showed that letter to lenin personally and thus lenin senpai noticed him wrote to him back🥰
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watch tankies ignore all of the casualties of the chedel vs stalenin shipping war
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When the few soviet rpf fics are all written by liberals shipping Lenin/Trotsky :(
Don't you guys hate when the majority of the very few people who actually give a shit about the soviet leaders and ministers as people and not just as politicians are almost always anti communist?
Because I am. That one blog named after allyuleva I hate you why are posting abt my boys and then talking abt how they killed 5 morbillion people in the next sentence just fuck off
#why is historical rpf always either hamilton third reich or hitler/stalin and lenin/trotsky??#where the stalenin girlies at???
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hi stalenin nation
#my art#mine#crack rpf#stalin#lenin#molotov#stalenin#idk how to i tag this.#lenin's goatee made him seme coded
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in love...
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where is the lesbian catgirl stalenin content huh? does a bitch have to create what she wants to see herself
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stalenin are so "i want us both to eat well" tumblerina web weaving coded
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marxism leninism is fundamentally predicated on stalenin thought. bourgeois “communists” will fight this for all time, but a true proletarian communist knows the heart of the revolutionary struggle lies in rpf
Mutuals behold the funniest insult (?!?) from a tankie I've got in a while:
Bold words from a group of people that ship Lenin/Stalin. At least I've got interests beyond genocide denial and posting hammer-and-sickles.
Also good demonstration of their poor research skills lol
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Dropping my commie ships tier list 🦅🔥🦅🔥 (might be subject to change idk):
S: Stalin/Lenin, Kirov/Stalin
A: Stalin/Molotov
Stalin/Kaganovich
Stalin/Trotsky
Stalin/Voroshilov
Budyonny/Voroshilov
Budyonny/Maria (third wife)
Beria/Malenkov
B: Yezhov/Beria/Yagoda poly (do you see the vision?)
Beria/Yezhov (they're literally so awful I love them)
Stalin/Bukharin (only beaten by stalenin and kirovstal in doomed yaoi status)
Dzierzynsky/Stalin
Tukhachevsky/Budyonny (rivals and one sided enemies and lovers)
Voroshilov/Ekaterina | Golda (his wifey)
Budyonny/Olga (second wife. Omg i cant even begin to tell you)
Molotov/Polina (me and who?)
#no c and lower tiers because i don't seem to hate any commie ship#also you might have noticed that all of these are ships from the USSR#this is because i fucking love the ussr#ussr#soviet rpf
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