#st s5 spoilers

[plistommy]

SEASON 5 STEVE!!!

[galecstatic]

from this to this

PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED CURLY HAIR WILL BYERS IS COMING HOME FOR SEASON 5

[erikiara80]

Someone noticed (here) that March 29, Billy's birthday, is also the day the Cali crew is back in Hawkins.

So, I'm thinking. We see the name Billy as Max is reading the letter, but the name William when she is in the Vecna vision. That could just mean different timelines, or maybe it's also a hint that the theory that Will is in a Vecna vision at the end of S4 is correct (here)

Maybe on March 29 Vecna goes into William's mind and what he sees from the moment he touches his neck is a vision (everything else is real) The end credit song, Spellbound, is definitely an interesting choice...

I would love it if S4 starts with a flashback of El in the lab, and ends with Will in a vision. Also, we know that S5 starts with a UD flashback, so:

4x01 -> lab flashback -> then El's letter, in which she lies about her life in Lenora

5x01 -> UD flashback -> then a vision, which is also a lie?

What would Vecna show Will? Maybe the day at Rink-o-mania. But I think this would be different from El's letter. This time we would see the truth, twisted by Vecna, like the truth about Max wishing her brother to die. Maybe Vecna would tell Will that he is jealous, and that the reason he didn't help El is that, deep down, he wants her to suffer.

Well, Will is jealous, but that's normal. It doesn't mean that he's cruel or doesn't love his sister. We see that in the van scene and in 4x09.

And how could Vecna show Will that he is jealous and wants to hurt his sister? Maybe by making him be the one who throws the milkshake on her dress.

Remember the BTS photo of Noah at Rink-o-mania in his 4x09 outfit? The boy behind him and Millie is the actor who plays Jake, or his double. Jake is the one who throws the milkshake on El's dress. Jake has a bowl cut and kinda resembles Will.

So, maybe Noah was wearing his 4x09 here because this is the vision scene, and this time he's the one who humiliates El.

I could be wrong, but I think this would be a very interesting parallel with the beginning of S4. And a way to make Will more vulnerable

@chirpsythismorning @shippingfangirl013

[mikesigninspection]

Honestly, can this scene contain more topics than just one?

As expected, people are asking themselves what are Mike and Nancy discussing about.

Is it about (Holly's) disappearance or, could it be about the relationships (Jancy and Byler). Maybe it could even be Mike talking 'bout his and El's problems and what do you know, he could be coming out to Nancy!

My question is, can't they include everything I just mentioned in their talk?

Can't they just start a conversation about Holly's disappearance, reveal how guilty they feel, what they should've done to protect her and how they could rescue her. Talk about what she is going through. Then tie that with Will's disappearance, how he must've felt during it. How he could help due to his experience, and through the talk, Mike could reveal his guilt and the fear of losing him. Nancy could ask him where he stands with El rn, wanting to understand what her little brother is going through (considering they should reveal their fears so they don't get possessed) and he could talk about the problems, how he acted back in Lenora, what even happened there . He could bring up the bathtub speech which could then be connected to the painting and its own story.

It could have Mike talking about how it all makes him feel, which could again, lead to a potential coming out to Nancy. Nancy could also intertwine with the talk, bringing up the Jancy situation and they could end up joking 'bout the Byers/Wheelers love curse.

They could finally explore that siblings bond and catch a breath for a moment.

[paladibun]

Brushes his hair for him so you wouldn't have to

[withoutheartwedallfallapart]

Okay so WHAT IS GOING ON HERE????

[iamtheoneandonlyever]

Did y’all miss me :3

[jancy-central]

👏🏼 JANCY IS BACK! JANCY IS BACK!👏🏼

(BTS pic under cut!)

[junoisthecoolest]

so bylers canon ig

[bugsbenefit]

don't know if i've mentioned before why i personally want s5 to be in winter so bad but it's not actually because of the sweaters and so on (even though i like sweaters i will admit, i get it)

i mainly want it because it'll make everything harder for the characters (sue me i like conflict okay, give them the worst possible season to be in during a collapse of the town infrastructure)

because having supernatural gates open in town is already bad enough, the threat of creatures crawling through the streets and a giant monster with a gaping mouth like Nancy describes is also bad. but now have all of that happen in Winter?

potential spoilers of there being posters about an energy conservation and a food drive just makes the apocalyptic situation due to the supernatural worse

now you're not just struggling with monsters, you have to worry about the temperature and energy and food. the town that's already started a religious fearmongering movement in s4 won't back down as easily if their living conditions are actively worsened by the fallout of s4 either. things aren't just going back to normal post the earthquake and people can't move on and forget

there's so much potential there to create more conflict that wouldn't be possible if it was nice and sunny and warm out

[crysta1ized]

this is so ethel cain core… will possessed, choking mike in a church, illusion and reality getting mixed up, feelings getting revealed… all while an eerie song plays in the background…

[twelvegate-blog]

There are many important 12 mentions in The First Shadow

Henry vanished for 12 hours in Nevada (in 1954)

In S4 there's a reference to that, and it's not just about Henry, it's also connected to Will. In fact, the 12 hours mention is between the close up of the light bulb in El's closet, similar to the one in the Byers' shed, Will and the boys getting off the road, and Owens literally joking about working out of a shed.

Apparently, the key to decoding Henry's secret journal is Captain Midnight's Clock!

In S3 Dustin gives Will the Forever Clock and there's the name Williams on the grandfather clock.

This looks a lot like the new set leak

(posted by byrhop on Twitter, and willelworld)

And this is in Henry's house

So much to think about!

[galecstatic]

THE ORIGINAL FOUR IS COMING HOME

I CANNOT BREATHE WHAT THE FUCK

[erikiara80]

Little Jonwill! I know this could be fake, but I would love to see them. Eight yo Will? That would be 1979, the year Will drew the rainbowship, the year of the massacre.

I wonder when they built Castle Byers. It would be interesting if it was 1979.

Anyway. Little Jonwill! My favorite

[foreverautumn89]

Jonathan's favorite gifts last year [besides the little love notes from Steve]: Steve got Jonathan 'Thumper' pajamas since Jonathan loves Thumper so much and Jonathan was so excited about them and wore them around constantly.

Steve also got him a star projector because of Jonathan's love of lights and stars and nature, Jonathan's favorite thing to take pictures of. It was also because on one of their first dates they went to the planetarium together and looked up at the stars and Jonathan was mesmerized by it. He loves beautiful images/scenery and is captivated by it.

[teen--marvel]

i swear to god, duffers!! don’t you fucking touch my man!! dusty’s had enough fucking trauma!!

kind of spoilers below;

okay, so, if you seen the set recording, you’ll know what i’m talking about.

i’m now seeing theories about the kids are always yelling at steve.

i can clearly hear dustin yelling/screaming the two “run”(s) to steve in the first recording. the second recording after who i’m assuming is the director for the episode says “grab him by the throat”, i can hear vecna (not sure if jcb was spotted near set or not).

there’s talks of dustin being at a radio station or him seeing steve on a cctv type screen.

here me out; remember back a few years ago when a reporter was talking to shawn levy about the show and they mentioned steve, and how he said he’d leave the show if anything bad happened to him? SHAWN IS STILL WITH PRODUCTIKN!!

so. here’s my own little theories you can ignore or add to if you want;

steve’s fine (though i’m shaking with worry that he’s not), and vecna has dustin ‘cause of the trauma he went through with losing eddie last season.

vecna/henry/001 is back in hawkins(again, not sure if jcb was spotted near set), and just like with all the other seasons, stevie puts himself in danger to save those he loves.

i do believe the suffers said that four characters stories (i know dusty and hop are two of them. i forget the others) are finished after s5. they didn’t mention steve, so once again, he’s fine. (i also think joe came out and said that steve’s fine in a recent interview).

there will be fix it fics just like with eddie, and we’re all gonna cry while doing it.