#spopovich

[quantumleper]

25th World Martial Arts Tournament | Dragon Ball Z | World Tournament Saga

[hozonkai1]

[bluehairlaunch]

7 Worst Dragon Ball Characters (objective)

Honorable mention, Master Roshi. So here's the deal, I actually like Roshi. I actually like Roshi A LOT when he's being the offbeat martial arts master, but for the most part he's a serial sex offender, and the anime adds even more sexual assault for lulz.

Like a bad relationship, I try to remember the good times

Oolong

So y'know how I basically said there were aspects to Roshi's personality I really enjoyed, which is why he's not on the list proper? That's not the case with Oolong. There are definitely aspects to Oolong I like -- I like Piggy from Journey to the West and I think it's hilarious that Toriyama dressed him (and Mai, for some reason) like Chairman Mao. I also have to credit him with saving the world, although idk how Pilaf would have actually held onto his world empire with people like Goku around. Regardless, his character is another vehicle for sexual assault humor.

And yes, the English dub fucked up and made him sound like an adult. The joke is that he's a child that acts like a perverted adult, but because he's a child, he's just kidnapping girls to clean his house and be his mom, basically (Bulma pretty much even adopts him). Sexual assault humor is still sexual assault humor, though, so Oolong sucks

Bacterian

He's just gross. I really hate this dude

Garlic Jr.

Who stans a poser? In DBZ Abridged, they rip on Lord Slug for being EXACTLY King Piccolo, but the only difference between Slug and Garlic Jr. is that Lord Slug knew his place well enough to stay out of the anime.

Lemme start tho with the things I actually like about this guy. 1) he's a demon, I think. Toriyama introduced the concept with King Piccolo, backtracked, then reintroduced it with Dabura. Dragon Ball Xeno Heroes or w/e later realized this was free real estate and expanded on the idea to the point of nausea, but until then, Garlic and his henchmen and Dabura were your only demons, if that's something you found dope.

Other than this, Garlic Jr. steals Pilaf's design, but instead of remaining a lil' gremlin, he goes the filler route and beefs up like a Broly. He has a past connection with Kami like King Piccolo and successfully uses the Dragon Balls like King Piccolo. He then uses the Jr. like Piccolo. Get your own fucking thing. ALL YOU HAVE IS BEING THE SON OF KAMI'S RIVAL

And what really gets me is that he would be an okay filler villain if he wasn't just a chimera of better, actually canon characters, but as he is, the only things I like about his movie and arc have nothing to do with him.

Fwiw this is the only character on this list that's filler/not a part of Toriyama's original run. If this included GT, then there would be nothing but GT. As far as Super goes, I like the characters or at least their concepts (looking at you Zamasu), and the shit part is in the execution.

Spopovich

He and Yamu serve to showcase Babidi's power of mind control, but in doing so we're forced to witness the most pointlessly brutal, one-sided beatdown in all of Dragon Ball. I think the anime even devoted an entire episode to this ffs

We later learn that you have to already be a prat to fall under Babidi's powers, so there's nothing even tragic about his brainwashing and ultimate demise. He sucked before, he sucks now, he's a bad character.

Idasam

First off, it really doesn't make sense that a kid's division was introduced, does it? Most of the top fighters in the World Martial Arts Tournament were underage

Second, look how cute that girl in the top right is

Ok ok. As I made this list I began to realize there weren't a lot of characters in Dragon Ball that I actually hated. Some I definitely liked less than others, but few were so bad that I would remove them if I could. This chick is definitely one of them tho.

The Anti-Chi-Chi, Idasam raised two little brats that ig she loves and supports, which is the only thing she has that going for her. Besides that, she's mean to Bulma and even tried to physically assault her until the Mother of our Saviour Chi-Chi stepped in

Pirate Robot

Admit it, you thought he was filler. He looks like Third Form Frieza fucked some Saiyan armor. I've seen people try to salvage pirate robot by saying he's Android 2, but no, he's not, General Blue had no idea about this underwater pirate cave, and it doesn't make sense for Dr. Gero to squirrel away a dragon ball down here. Sometimes the things you love just disappoint you

Super Buu

I'm not sure this if this is a controversial opinion, but Super Buu is trash, his arc is trash, and everything he does will be done better later by Janemba in a fucking filler movie.

Before his introduction, Gohan failed, Vegeta failed and failed and failed, Gotenks fucked around and found out, and Goku wasted his time on a useless transformation like Future Trunks did in the Cell Saga (if he had been alive, Gohan would be trained and he would have realized SSJ3 wasn't a real transformation). Then Hercule came along and WON. The champ did it, he beat Majin Buu (with kindness). And that's great. If the Buu arc ended there, it would've still had several loose ends, but Z has loose ends as it is (imo another saga was needed to complete Gohan's character arc).

But then Toriyama (I'd rather blame his editors, but I've never seen anyone credit Super and Kid Buu to editorial interference) Ctrl-Z's Hercule's victory and we get Super Buu, a Perfect Cell wannabe that does nothing but crack his neck and murder Marin and everyone else too ig with his admittedly dope human extinction wave.

I have nothing but issues with this guy. His arc is way too long, his design is generically cool like a filler character, he steals Cell's powerset, he steals everybody's clothes, and he murders most of the cast while having little to no personality, so I can't even hate him for it

Go crack your neck more, you're the worst character in Dragon Ball

[weeblmaodotcom]

Also Toei: *allows Videl being battered by Spopovich in Dragon Ball Z* , Meme by Weeblmao.com

[sulan1809]

SPOPOVICH - UM COVARDE QUE TENTOU ASSASSINAR VIDEL

Dragon Ball "Z" teve muitos momentos mirabolantes e esplêndidos, como por exemplo, a derrota de Cell pelas mãos de Gohan, no entanto, houve momentos revoltantes na obra de Akira Toriyama, como por exemplo, a luta entre Videl e Spopovich. Estaria ele tentando matar a filha de Hercule Satan por vingança? Não se sabe ao certo, mas a covardia que ele fez contra Videl é imperdoável e inadmissível. A luta entre Spopovich e Videl foi a mais injusta de todas, pois ele estava massacrando a garota sem piedade. Son Gohan tentou intervir por ela, mas foi impedido por Son Goku. Sim, Goku, pagando de falso moralista, aconselhava o filho dele a não se intrometer. Videl apenas escapou da morte porque o filho de Goku deu a ela um senzu para que ela se recuperasse rapidamente. Então, mesmo sendo um antagonista menor, Spopovich entrou para a lista dos vilões mais desprezíveis e desonrosos de Dragon Ball.

Depois de assistir aquele brutamontes covarde machucar uma garota sem poderes especiais como ele, você provavelmente pensaria que Spopovich iria se safar dessa, certo?! ERRADO. Babidi, o manda-chuva e mandante de todos os esquemas relacionados ao Majin Buu, embora desintencionalmente, assassinou Spopovich, enquanto que Yamu foi exterminado por Pui Pui. Não houve melhor satisfação do que ver esses dois facínoras recebendo o que eles merecem, levando em consideração que eles atacaram Gohan para absorver um pouco da energia dele para dar a Majin Buu, que ainda estava encapsulado, então, tudo o que podemos dizer é: GOOD RIDDANCE...

[theanimationalley]

[modeus-the-misanthrope]

Aye yo,

So I was thinking about character changes between dragon ball Z and Super, and I would like two cents on what you think?

Particularly with Videl, who, as far as I can remember, went from a strong upcoming fighter with her own goals and motives to.. Gohans wife

While I have a lot of gripes and complaints about characters getting noticable amounts of character development undone at the start of Super...Videl is ironically one of the ones that could have been turned into plot/character development with one scene.

Piccolo taking Pan out to train: Hey, you know you're always welcome to join us, correct? You were a decent fighter when you and Gohan weren't trying to recreate your favorite Sentais.

Videl: ...Aren't the people your fighting now hundreds if not thousands of times stronger than who we fought prior to Buu's ressurection?

Piccolo: Yes. Why do you ask?

Videl: *Spopovich PTSD activating*

Videl: I think I will just stay here, watch some tv, read a book, and maybe get a nap in before making some dinner for everyone. Bye~

[girlfatherfigure]

I hate it so much when a shounen manga author has one burst of really fleshing out his female character and writing her amazingly and then immediately goes back to making her insignificant and putting her in the background cuz it just proves that yeah u CAN write women well u just choose not to

[pulpfanfiction]

spopovich has gotta be the funniest addition to this team. who the fuck is expecting to fight spopovich like, literally ever

sparking zero is really really good. i just rolled some guy playing an actually decent team with these guys becauise i wanted to play a Bald Squad

[tobiasdrake]

Ok, how would you feel about my idea for an alternate 24th Budokai AU: here, Vegeta and Piccolo manage to destroy Gero and 19 wholesale, Trunks takes them all at their word that the Androids were defeated handily, and with that everyone agrees to enter the upcoming 24th Budokai (timeline may need to be switched around a bit, we don’t know when exactly it happened. Satan’s overconfidence at the Cell Games may have originated from a quite recent Budokai win). Anyway, since we know this tournament also featured the inaugural Juniors division, Gohan ends up fighting a young Videl in the finals.

Meanwhile, the main tournament bracket turns out like:

Match 1

- Krillin vs. Tenshinhan

Match 2

- Son Goku vs. Future Trunks

Match 3

- Piccolo vs. Mr. Satan

Match 4

- Vegeta vs. Yamcha.

The tournament would take place shortly after Goku wakes up, so everyone is pretty much exactly where they were power wise at the beginning of the Android arc. A few notes:

- The quality of fighter has noticeably dropped - guys like Namu, Chappa and Tao remember how hopelessly outclassed they were last time, so the guys entering here are the noobs we saw at the 25th Budokai: Pintar, Jewel, Killa, Mighty Mask, (pre-Majin) Spopovich and of course, Mr. Satan himself

- Krillin-Tien would be a very technical, throwback to the old tournament fights, with Krillin winning to finally shut up the weirdos who supposedly genuinely believe Toriyama wasn’t including Tien when he stated the former was the strongest Earthling

- Goku and Trunks would quickly break the “no Super Saiyan” rule, with Goku coming out on top but Trunks still viewing the contest as a positive learning experience

- Piccolo-Satan would be a pure comedy bout. Piccolo wins with ease, although if the Buu arc still played out similarly in this AU it may prove to be disastrous later on

- Vegeta-Yamcha would play out similarly to Piccolo-Krillin from the 23rd tournament. Vegeta is overconfident, gives Yamcha a beat down initially but Yamcha turns it around and genuinely hurts (base) Vegeta with the Rōgafūfūken and Sōkidan, before he angrily ends the fight in retaliation. Goku, Krillin, Tien and Gohan all rush to the ring and congratulate Yamcha on the effort, while Vegeta quietly (and begrudgingly) gives out some praise

- Goku and Vegeta obviously advance to the finals. Don’t have much to say on a Goku-Krillin rematch, but I’m sure someone could come up with an interesting take on it. SSJ Vegeta-Piccolo is obviously a very popular hypothetical in the fandom

- The Goku-Vegeta finale would probably end with either A. A confused Imperfect Cell showing up and a big 1st Broly film style group battle taking place, or B. Perfect Cell showing up, who found Gero’s lab and absorbed 17 and 18 in secret, declare his intent to host the Cell Games and allowing the Z-Fighters time to train for it.

That’s a rough, very long winded outline anyway. What do you think?

A small note: More than the timeline would need to be switched around, since we do know the 24th happened after the Cell Games. Cell describes the Tenkaichi Budokai as a tournament that used to exist, but doesn't anymore.

This is why it took over fifteen years for the 24th to occur. The tournament was cancelled after Goku and Piccolo's title bout. For. Uh. Obvious reasons.

A lot of people were definitely killed during that.

This was a recreational martial arts tournament for a ~$3,000 cash prize. If Tom Brady suddenly wiped Florida off the map in the middle of the Super Bowl, we'd be having serious conversations about the NFL right now.

So one of their athletes killed the whole island that the tournament's set on and then they never held it again after that. Seems reasonable. Well, until Mr. Satan singlehandedly defeated Cell, claimed the tournament Cell was reviving as a spoil of war, and then remade it in his own image.

But that's fine. There are no barriers to writing; only obstacles for a writer to overcome.

As far as the matches go....

I don't think Goku and Trunks need to break a "No Super Saiyan" rule, necessarily. That rule only existed to avoid media attention after they were all seen in Super Saiyan form at the Cell Games.

If the Cell Games haven't happened, I'm not sure why they'd settle on a rule like this. Especially a Vegeta who's still somewhere around start-of-Android-arc characterization.

For Vegeta and Yamcha, I have a hard time seeing Yamcha even momentarily getting the better of Vegeta. Even in his base form, Vegeta is worlds beyond Yamcha in direct combat, and he also has the focus and attention to his surroundings to not lose track of the Sokidan.

That's not to say it couldn't happen, but the vibe would be different. This isn't Yamcha's fight to win; It's Vegeta's to lose, and letting Yamcha actually get a hit in on him would be a sign that Vegeta's cockiness is getting the better of him.

Which... is appropriate for this stage of his development. Vegeta starts fighting a lot stupider between the Namek and Android arcs. Overconfidence from achieving the Super Saiyan coupled with the Super Saiyan itself fucking with his head shunts him from one of the cleverest, most practical, and most observant fighters on the scene to a dim-witted sledgehammer.

Letting Yamcha actually pressure him, even for a moment, might be the wakeup call Vegeta needs to get his head back in the game and maybe fight smarter for his more genuinely difficult matches with Piccolo and Goku.

[deusvervewrites]

Power Levels are only a measure of raw ki

Not even that, they're a measure of raw ki OUTPUT. Transforming species like the Saiyan, the Frost Demons and whatever Zarbon's species is can suddenly increase their power levels to overcome a stronger enemy, and with the right training one can learn moves that temporarily increase the power level (such as the Kamehameha or the Garlic Cannon), or to suppress it to conserve one's strenght, better control one's power, sneak around, and utterly make a fool of someone who is ignorant of such ability (see Goku vs the Ginyu Force, with Recoome and Burter being crushed because the scouters said Goku's power level was 5000 and he increased his output at the moment of the attack too fast for the scouters to pick it up).

Quirks just add another layer of uselessness by being biological and not ki based abilities, thus leaving scouter users completely unprepared when the big guy with a power level of six suddenly shoots fire hot enough to melt through their armor, or the weirdo with a power level of three hits as hard as a Frieza soldier and then does something weird.

Only guy they'd have a correct guess on is Spopovich, and that's because his lack of skill in basic fighting is a glaring red flag that something weird is going on as nobody that unskilled can possibly acquire ki powers without magic help.

I know Freeza won't appear but he'd get bullied so hard

[ap-kinda-lit]

Spopovich will forever be on my shit list

[imperfectercell]

i was this close to adding spopovich. like way before raditz

raditz isnt on the poll bc i forgot about him until the end and tumblr polls dont let you reorganize and i would NOT have raditz at the very end. my sensibilities wouldnt permit it

[small-screen-superman]

Ok, how would you feel about my idea for an alternate 24th Budokai AU: here, Vegeta and Piccolo manage to destroy Gero and 19 wholesale, Trunks takes them all at their word that the Androids were defeated handily, and with that everyone agrees to enter the upcoming 24th Budokai (timeline may need to be switched around a bit, we don’t know when exactly it happened. Satan’s overconfidence at the Cell Games may have originated from a quite recent Budokai win). Anyway, since we know this tournament also featured the inaugural Juniors division, Gohan ends up fighting a young Videl in the finals.

Meanwhile, the main tournament bracket turns out like:

Match 1

- Krillin vs. Tenshinhan

Match 2

- Son Goku vs. Future Trunks

Match 3

- Piccolo vs. Mr. Satan

Match 4

- Vegeta vs. Yamcha.

The tournament would take place shortly after Goku wakes up, so everyone is pretty much exactly where they were power wise at the beginning of the Android arc. A few notes:

- The quality of fighter has noticeably dropped - guys like Namu, Chappa and Tao remember how hopelessly outclassed they were last time, so the guys entering here are the noobs we saw at the 25th Budokai: Pintar, Jewel, Killa, Mighty Mask, (pre-Majin) Spopovich and of course, Mr. Satan himself

- Krillin-Tien would be a very technical, throwback to the old tournament fights, with Krillin winning to finally shut up the weirdos who supposedly genuinely believe Toriyama wasn’t including Tien when he stated the former was the strongest Earthling

- Goku and Trunks would quickly break the “no Super Saiyan” rule, with Goku coming out on top but Trunks still viewing the contest as a positive learning experience

- Piccolo-Satan would be a pure comedy bout. Piccolo wins with ease, although if the Buu arc still played out similarly in this AU it may prove to be disastrous later on

- Vegeta-Yamcha would play out similarly to Piccolo-Krillin from the 23rd tournament. Vegeta is overconfident, gives Yamcha a beat down initially but Yamcha turns it around and genuinely hurts (base) Vegeta with the Rōgafūfūken and Sōkidan, before he angrily ends the fight in retaliation. Goku, Krillin, Tien and Gohan all rush to the ring and congratulate Yamcha on the effort, while Vegeta quietly (and begrudgingly) gives out some praise

- Goku and Vegeta obviously advance to the finals. Don’t have much to say on a Goku-Krillin rematch, but I’m sure someone could come up with an interesting take on it. SSJ Vegeta-Piccolo is obviously a very popular hypothetical in the fandom

- The Goku-Vegeta finale would probably end with either A. A confused Imperfect Cell showing up and a big 1st Broly film style group battle taking place, or B. Perfect Cell showing up, who found Gero’s lab and absorbed 17 and 18 in secret, declare his intent to host the Cell Games and allowing the Z-Fighters time to train for it.

That’s a rough, very long winded outline anyway. What do you think?

This is a fun idea! I love Tien so a part of me wants him to win, but I know Krillin is supposed to be stronger...I just hope Tien puts up a hell of a fight :) If you ever expand on this, I recommend making the characters use some new techniques (either ones they came up with or existing techniques they haven't been shown using before but learned), as that was something I enjoyed immensely about past tournaments. Yamcha, Tien and Piccolo could use Kaio-Ken, for example.

[risingsouls]

Okay, first of all, Mr Satan is not as experienced as my character and plus, he's not even on the same level as her, and the way she moves when delivering attacks is accurate and precise, unlike the world champ who's too much of a wuss to act like a real man.

[Uh...It's definitely obvious that Hercule Satan is a well-respected martial artist in his own right. Weasly, sure, but he actually does have a lot of skill and experience in that realm. From what I understand, it sounds like he's been training his whole life, too, so I don't know how you can say he doesn't have as much experience.

But let's go with an example we KNOW has trained her whole life like your muse: Videl. Girl almost got KILLED by Spopovich, someone probably everyone on the sidelines could have handily taken out. Do you think she would be able to stand in a fight against Vegeta, even at her peak strength?

THAT is why we're all trying to tell you a lifetime of training is not enough to spar on par with Vegeta UNLESS, UN-FUCKING-LESS that training involves ki. That is how it works in this world.

I went through it with my Zelda muse, Nabooru. If I didn't implement ki into her training, she would be at the same place as your character: a lifetime of training, natural talent, and she was easily the strongest of her race next to one. Her race ITSELF was arguably the strongest in Hyrule when it came to warrior prowess. But compared to fighters in this series? They're nothing until they learn to manipulate ki. That's literally all that's being said here. Not that your character is unskilled or weak. She just doesn't have the advantages that these characters have.]

[hxroic-wxlls-fxrever]

//Every day, I thank myself for being able to reach Z rank in Singles and DP Battles in Sparking Zero early on into the game’s life, before people REALLY had a grasp on how to utterly cheese their way to Ws.//

//Seeing all the major YouTubers get driven to insanity by the ranked battle degeneracy in this game is wild. For all the talk that the playerbase did about the game ‘being for fun, use your favorites’, I don’t think using stuff like Wheelo, Spopovich, 19 and Gero sounds exactly like fun. That’s just my opinion.//