#spn s5e4

[drulalovescas]

Castiel looking at beautiful women flirting with him:

Castiel looking at Dean:

[theangelblood]

Oh god, I was so not ready for The End rewatch. It's one of the most relatable episodes of Supernatural ever. Jensen and Misha did an amazing job. Both Dean and Cas are way too relatable in this episode. Jared playing Lucifer in this episode is my favourite performance of his in this show. And just in general the writing is great, I mean the toilet paper prophecy, "I'll just wait here then" and the entire "Don't ever change Cas" scene!

Hope the SPN T&N episode is as good as last week's episode.

[stellernorth]

“umbrellas are too unmanly” kripke put dean in panties. pink and satiny and dean kind of liked it. no umbrellas.

[strawberrryangel]

oh my. OH my. in season 5 episode 4 of supernatural aka endverse aka sexy. when they’re about to advance on the building where sam is as lucifer. and the dean from 2014 is like saying that they’re gonna use their team as bait and the dean from our timeline is like. “you’re gonna lead our friends into a meat grinder? cas, too?” and the. and the fact. and the fact that. because. dean and cas are boyfriends. and so of course he wouldn’t lump cas into their group of friends because cas is so so much more than that. and he’s. so so so so so much more. and. they’re litrrsylly boyfhirenids.

[inkonsistentsky]

AKJDHSJASDHJAKSD I FORGOT ABOUT WEIRDO HIPPIE CAS he's so hot with the beard kajsdkjsah. oh my god also i'm ngl future cas & dean have such a cute dynamic akjsdhakj also i'm very happy that they make lucifer kinda likeable, it's good. the devil should never be just some evil son of a bitch that's easily hateable, it's very paradise lost

[the-bisexual-bitch]

Supernatural man telling me to hoard toilet paper feels like a prediction

[mythiodic]

Me finding my way into the spn endverse so I can fall in love with/rizz up apocalypse commune leader Dean Winchester

[cuntyqueerleondraisaitl]

Dean liking cross dressing is not something I had on my season 5 bingo card but aight...

[mysteryspotcast]

Ep. 52, BartenderGate, is here!

Apologies for the delay - our recap of Supernatural S5E3: "Free To Be You and Me" and S5E4: "The End" is now in your feeds!

Points of Interest: Is Destiel a retelling of the watcher’s flood?, being freed from the clutches of the white nightgown, hard-hitting political commentary from Dean Winchester, Jensen Ackles possessed by the spirit of Dean, angels are constantly flopping, fujoshing out, the pandemic year of 2014, John McCain won the 2008 election in the Supernatural universe, unprecedented levels of divorced, and deleted Destiel scenes.

In this episode we also mention the SECOND book in @nicosraf's Angels trilogy, which you should go read instead of watching SPN.

LISTEN NOW in your favorite podcast app!

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching The End

Welcome to “Beware the Toilet Paper Horde!: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

Up today, s5e4: The End.

Dean is at a hotel taking a quick sleep break from hunting for a way to kill Lucifer with Cas. Cas agrees to meet him in the morning. Before Dean can conk out, Sam calls, wanting to work together again. Dean gives him a speech about being stronger apart because everyone uses their love and protectiveness of each other against them. When Dean wakes up, the town he’s in is suddenly run down and abandoned. Oh, and crawling with people infected with the Croatoan virus. He goes to Bobby’s and finds a clue about where Cas might be and heads there. He finds himself, hard and bitter, and a Cas who is human and a stoner. Turns out he’s in the future, a future where he said no to Michael and Sam said yes to Lucifer, and this Croatoan hellscape is the result. Future!Dean has a plan to kill Luci!Sam with the Colt. Our Dean tags along, witnesses himself get killed by Luci!Sam, and has a heartbreaking conversation with him about how this end is inevitable. Dean then gets zapped back to the present by Zach, who arranged this little trip to the future to try to convince Dean to say yes. But Dean is more determined than ever not to, and Cas saves him from an irate Zach just in time. Dean then meets up with Sam and reverses his position about whether they should work together. The fraught brothers ride again, as God intended (heh).

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

[and we begin:]

Lor:

oooooh this episode

Mace:

i don’t know which one this is yet

Lor:

ooooooo bounces

Mace:

god’s plan for Dean. NICE

Lor:

"too friggin much pal" haaaaaahahahahaha

Mace:

Cas on the cell phone. ADORABLE

Lor:

RIGHT?

and he's getting bitchy, poor baby

Mace:

HE IS

Lor:

"what stuff?"

Lor:

"I'll just wait here then" I CANNOT

Mace:

YAS

such a cutie

Mace:

ooooh Sammy’s fightin’ mad I LOVE IT

Lor:

Dean, you GOOB, you ALSO are trying to hunt down Lucifer and kill him

Lor:

YES

Lor:

nnngggg Dean's ring

Mace:

the way this boy flipflops between FAMILY and GET AWAY FROM ME is a little ridiculous

Mace:

YES

Lor:

right?

Lor:

he needs some intense therapy and a long bout of angel snuggles

Mace:

such an emo drama queen

Lor:

LOL

Mace:

oh wait is this the hippie Cas ep?!?!

Lor:

YEP

Mace:

OMG

Lor:

also Luci!Sam in a white suit episode

Mace:

huh. I have the timeline all messed up in my head, I think. So confused

Mace:

I thought that part was much later

Mace:

Wow. apparently it doesn’t take much to get Dean to punch a child. Interesting.

Lor:

sounds like you need to... rewatch HAAAHAHAHAHA

Mace:

He’s so cute when he runs, though

Mace:

HAHAHAHAHA OH YOU’RE FUNNY, LOR

Lor:

I was just thinking that! at the least he should look more upset about it

Lor:

he is ADORABLE when he runs

Lor:

lolololol the music

Mace:

YES

Lor:

I AM SO FUNNY

Mace:

SO FUNNY

Mace:

FRIGGIN HILARIOUS

Lor:

...alos the Dean likes to wear panties episode. the line that launched a thousand fics

Mace:

snork

Lor:

OMG Dean hitting the steering wheel after Zach pops in

Mace:

no more sports, so it’s not all bad news

Mace:

#silverlinings

Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Lor:

though we all know now that you don't need people to assemble and watch in person for there to be sports

Mace:

i suppose

Mace:

way to ruin it

Lor:

HA! sorry, friend

Lor:

poor Baby

Mace:

indeed

Mace:

i didn’t remember a double dean action

Lor:

oooh yep

Mace:

NICE

Lor:

god bless Rhonda Hurley

Mace:

HAHAHAHA YAS

Lor:

oooof, Dean

Mace:

yeah. both of them

Lor:

yeah

Lor:

lololol Parent Trap reference

Mace:

HA

Lor:

Haley Mills or whatsherface, Dean?

Mace:

both, although he’ll deny the remake

Lor:

LOLOLOL YES

Lor:

"maybe, uh, share?"

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

omg hiding behind Chuck

Mace:

YES

Lor:

if the CW had any cajones at all, there would have been at least two pretty boys sitting in that circle too

Mace:

RIGHT?!

Lor:

"you are not you, not now!you, anyway"

Mace:

i LOVE that Cas immediately knows

Lor:

YES

Lor:

omg his voice is so less deep

Mace:

IT IS

Lor:

... I wanted bead curtains so bad when I was like 17

Lor:

ooooof, Deans

Mace:

HAHAHA i had them in my dorm room

Lor:

NICE

Lor:

I love that, in addition to other things, we have here a Dean who has to be A Leader, and it doesn't quite... fit

Mace:

and why do you think it doesn’t work? I agree with it, but i think the interesting thing is why

Mace:

because he’s lost Sam?

Lor:

well, I think, this particular example is muddled because there are so many things making him not fit, losing Sam being a big one

Lor:

but I think he CAN lead but it's not where he's most comfortable. and it's not exactly that he wants to follow, but that as soon as he's in charge of more than just a few people, he doesn't want to

Lor:

"oh, so we're torturing again. oh, that's good. classy"

Lor:

"I like past you"

Mace:

agreed

Lor:

"okay, if you don't like reckless, I could use "insouciant" maybe"

Mace:

HA

Mace:

I… don’t like this Cas

Lor:

no, me either. like, I enjoy it as a performance and a "what-if," but the what-if itself is not one I want to spend any more time with than this one ep

Mace:

exactly

Lor:

"Sam didn't die in Detroit. he said yes"

Lor:

I also don't like this Dean

Lor:

which makes interesting the fact that I like the real Dean, who DOES get more WORN better than young Dean

Lor:

he needs more wear on him, but not THIS wear

Mace:

Hm. I do. I mean, not as much as Real Dean, but you know how I feel about Bad Guys (tm)

Lor:

I do

I trust real Dean implicitly, and this one I don't. I think that's the crux of it for me

Mace:

i get that. I like a little danger, though

Lor:

oooof, Deans

Lor:

the thing is you and Sam BOTH need to say no. like, in this moment, that's the alternative they aren't looking at

Lor:

HORDE TOILET PAPER

Mace:

right?!

Mace:

and YES

Lor:

hoard? I can never remember which is which

Lor:

omg Cas's nod when Dean says "stick out of your ass"

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

it is REALLY interesting to me that this is part of what Zach thinks Dean will take one look at and go "NOPE. better make a different choice." and he's RIGHT

Mace:

hoard, i think. horde is the unruly band of vikings type thing

Mace:

YEP

Lor:

it doesn't have the effect Zach wants, but Dean doesn't want this to happen to Cas any more than he wants to be this Dean or have Sammy say yes to Luci

Lor:

aaah. I thought one was the verb and the other was the noun?

Lor:

BOY Jensen does a good job playing against himself

Mace:

…isn’t that what i said?

Lor:

also the stitching together is really good. are they still using film in this season?

Mace:

“something is broken in you” oh MAN

Lor:

is it? ...I guess it is

Lor:

RIGHT?

Mace:

my god he looks good in that suit

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

"aren't you a surprise?"

Lor:

the thunder in the background is such a nice touch

Lor:

the rolling grumbling kind

Lor:

THE ROSE

Lor:

"the last perfect handiwork of God"

Mace:

YES

Lor:

JARED'S FACE BEFORE "YOU" I CANNOT

Lor:

Dean's teary eyes

Mace:

YES

Lor:

god Jensen's VOICE in this speech

Lor:

GIVE THEM EMMYS. GO BACK IN TIME AND EMMY THEM

Lor:

"whatever you do, you will always end up here"

Mace:

YESYESYES

Lor:

the fact that the tears spill when he suggests it's INEVITABLE

Mace:

YEP

Lor:

"well if it isn't the Ghost of Christmas Screw You" haaaaaaahahahahahahaa

Mace:

HAHAHA

Mace:

oh poor baby, lookit him

Lor:

RIGHT?!

Lor:

"naah" OMG

Mace:

he just wants to mow the lawn

Mace:

YAS

Lor:

RIGHT?

Mace:

CAS

Lor:

OMG THE LOOK ON CAS'S FACE

Mace:

“we had an appointment” I LOVE HIM

Lor:

"we had an appointment"

Lor:

vibrates out of my skin

Mace:

YAS

Lor:

He’s leaning against the car dies

Mace:

YES

Lor:

HUG EACH OTHER, YOU IDJITS

Mace:

RIGHT?!

Mace:

Sammy’s hurt/confused face

Mace:

SIGH

Lor:

the conferring of weapons as a gestures of love flops and rolls in it

Lor:

YES

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

"we keep each other human" GAH

Mace:

right?!

Lor:

"we make our own future"

Mace:

YAS

Lor:

FUCK 327

Mace:

TEAMFREEWILL

Lor:

YAAAAAAS

[moorishflower]

20 Questions for Fic Writers

I got tagged by @dsudis! :D Thank you darling! And anyone who sees this and feels the desire to join, please do <3

Blank questions for your convenience! My answers are below the readmore.

1. how many works do you have on ao3?

2. what’s your total ao3 word count?

3. what fandoms do you write for?

4. what are your top five fics by kudos?

5. do you respond to comments?

6. what’s the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?

7. what’s the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?

8. do you get hate on fics?

9. do you write smut? if so, what kind?

10. do you write crossovers? what’s the craziest one you’ve written?

11. have you ever had a fic stolen?

12. have you ever had a fic translated?

13. have you ever co-written a fic before?

14. what’s your all-time favorite ship?

15. what’s a WIP you want to finish, but doubt you ever will?

16. what are your writing strengths?

17. what are your writing weaknesses?

18. thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic?

19. first fandom you wrote for?

20. favorite fic you’ve ever written?

1. how many works do you have on ao3? Currently 218! 2. what’s your total ao3 word count? 1,977,729 3. what fandoms do you write for? Currently, I mainly write for The Sandman, though I periodically have been branching out and writing for whatever catches my fancy (Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves, Baldur's Gate 3, and now The Magnus Archives) 4. what are your top five fics by kudos? That would be aulon raid, Ecdysis, That I Should Wedded-Be, Curse of the Green Hag, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow. 5. do you respond to comments? I try to on occasion! I usually only get a few in before I start running out of spoons, though. I want each response to be meaningful, but I start running out of different ways to thank people, and so I just...run out of steam. 6. what’s the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? We're going all the way back to my SPN days here. The Last Song is a Dean/Cas fic set in the universe of S5E4 "The End," and is about the moment that Castiel fell and lost his wings. 7. what’s the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? Almost any other fic I've written. Maybe Hallmark-Adjacent? 8. do you get hate on fics? Almost none, thankfully! I've been very lucky. 9. do you write smut? if so, what kind? Ahahah...yeah. Pretty much any kind. There are kinks I haven't written, like watersports, sounding, more extreme BDSM, but that's not because I'm against them, specifically. If I have an idea, I'll generally write it! 10. do you write crossovers? what’s the craziest one you’ve written? I very rarely write crossovers. I think I might've only written three, actually? The most out-there one was probably the BBC Sherlock/Homestuck crossover. 11. have you ever had a fic stolen? Not that I'm aware of. 12. have you ever had a fic translated? Yes, several times! They're lovely, I love seeing translated works. <3 13. have you ever co-written a fic before? I have, though only the once. 14. what’s your all-time favorite ship? Am I super basic if I say that it's a tie between Mulder/Scully and Spock/Kirk? It's hard for me to top the classics. 15. what’s a WIP you want to finish, but doubt you ever will? I would really love to finish The Whole of Love Contained, but at this point my writing has changed enough that I would have to rewrite the entire thing, I think. 16. what are your writing strengths? Gosh I don't know I'm bad at this one. Um. Descriptions? 17. what are your writing weaknesses? Pacing, and action scenes, definitely. 18. thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic? What, like, running it through a translator or...? I've done that before, though I usually try to find a beta who speaks the language to go over it. I tend to do it sparingly, though. 19. first fandom you wrote for? Gosh, it might've been Harry Potter. The first fandom that I wrote SERIOUSLY for was Supernatural. 20. favorite fic you’ve ever written? It is, to this day, and might always be, Maybe sprout wings.

[allulily]

SPN EP S5E4 AGE 19 DEAN TRIED ON PANTIES AND LIKED IT??????

[fudanshifoucault]

spn s5e4 castiel you are sooo so special to me... nobody gets drugged out hippie cas like i do

[stellernorth]

when listing iconic sera-gamble-written sam episodes (houses of the holy, when the levee breaks,etc) 5x04 the end should get a shoutout because altho she didn’t like “write the episode” and it’s “not sam-centric” she did give the idea for lucifer wearing that white suit, which counts for an honorable mention at least

[innerchaosfan]

Sorry but as somebody who's dated people in denial of their sexuality I just don't think we make enough of this tiny interchange

[inkonsistentsky]

my collection of iconic moments grows with every day, god he's such a silly guy dean has got him wrapped round his fingers goddamn