#speaking of carrying a role 2) script eddie was bland. quinn ad-libbed most of what made eddie fun. there was room to make that jon instead | Explore Tumblr posts and blogs

discocandles · 3 months ago

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yeah, you're onto something here. i went on a rant in the tags but heres the stuff related to this:

a jon and chrissy friendship would be so awkward and so tragic oh my god. jon would see chrissy filled with fear & see will, his brother who's forever away. he abandoned his family, and now chrissy too. maybe she wouldn't have died if he went to california.

i think there would be a lot of guilt in the Byers family if this happened. Joyce because she wanted out of Hawkins, but she should've waited until Jon graduated to move so he wouldnt have to choose. Now her son is stuck in that town alone. Jonathan because he chose to finish high school at Hawkins, abandoning them after the pain of Starcourt. Will because if he hadn't been kidnapped and possessed, mom wouldn't have felt the need to move and jon wouldnt have had to choose. El is exempt bc she's new to the Byers, and grieving her dad.

also we wouldn't have had lucas being given shit by mike and dustin for joining basketball. Jon would not give two shits aout lucas liking sports and his music. even if Steve and Jon are jealous of each other right now, they would avoid bringing the party into it like the plague. and they would have good moments before everything officially goes to shit.

and speaking of Steve, the "you're a good person actually" talk would be way more impactful from Jonathan. given their history and how steve treated jon in s1, it would be an even bigger moment. and steve would probably give credit of his change to jon, the whole "thump on the head to get him going the right way" thing. which would impact jon, who feels like he's been abandoning everyone.

Sorry to be a hater for a second but st4 truly was so foul. Imagine them trying to convince us the Scooby teen gang included EDDIE while Jonathan was just some other random guy…….. and people bought into it……….

#you unlocked thoughts i didnt know i had and i dont really know how to articulate them or how i feel about it.#like 1) the duffers didnt know how to write jon bc he was nancy's sidekick to them for about 2 seasons #so they just decided his thing was gonna be weed jokes & ldr angst; both of which were mostly sold by heaton & franco's comedic acting #speaking of carrying a role 2) script eddie was bland. quinn ad-libbed most of what made eddie fun. there was room to make that jon instead #god i should make this its own post but im in too deep now #third & my big gripe. st has too many characters. i understand not wanting to kill the main characters off but stop adding more.#max and billy were great but we didnt need murray to stay and kali's been retconned. robins great but susie's a punchline #and i love erica but i think she was mostly used as a sassy Black girl stereotype. it'd be more cohesive if it was a party member there #then there's s4's plethora of new characters. oh and some people arent dead now. like joyce & el reuniting w/ hopper was nice ig #but what if their grief was explored like max's was? what if we saw joyce mirror her s1 self when el is kidnapped? that would be awesome #st #this sat in my drafts for a bit but here it is

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