#spanish orthography

[zvaigzdelasas]

Now that's a new one

[asterlae]

The tragic lovers are back :D

I have a lot of lore for them, specially for Wolfwood uwu

[anyonghalimaw]

so weird seeing chinese ppl who have basically the same family name as me but without being ran thru a spanish orthography filter

[panvani]

Or well ig I'm better at non English orthography (to the extent that English has a meaningful orthographic system) when I actually have some systemic knowledge of the language

[mornyavie]

I love the whole "English orthography doesn't make sense" thing where we've all just agreed to pretend that other languages don't have dialects ever.

[durn3h]

People defending English orthography always piss me off lmfao. This system is literally horrible, it’s indefensible

[neil-gaiman]

Good morning, afternoon or night depending on the time you read this.

First at all, apologize about my grammar and orthography. I'm a Spanish native speaker and google translate is doing most of the work for me.

Now I have clarified some important points, let me tell you how excited I'm about the second season of Good Omens. I discovered the show in 2022 on my first high school year, and I really enjoyed watching every episode. I absolutely fell in love with Crowley and Aziraphale and their dynamic.  Currently is one of my favourite shows and I’m trying to find the book (It’s a little hard to find in my country, but I still looking), so I want to thank you for the happiness you and Terry gave me.

To be honest the show helped me in more than one way, at the time I found Good Omens I was at the end of a crisis. My family is very, very catholic, I was raised into the religion, and that was a little problematic to me because I am a extremely curious person, so It didn't take long for me to question everything I was taught. I know my family don’t want to hurt me, on the contrary, they want to help or "save" me in the way they know but they ended up drowning me in guilt for being the way I was. When I was younger, I used to cry every night praying to God for change and stop questioning the church. Over time I stopped doing it but the guilt persisted.  So I watched the show and I saw Crowley and I thought to myself maybe it wouldn't be so bad saunter vaguely downwards.

And a fun fact: I found it’s that the premiere is going to be on July 28th. Exactly in my birthday! My parents even gave me permission to skip school and watch Good Omens all day! I’m counting the days :D

(I know that there’re almost one month left, but it’s better to prepare the ground)

P.D

I noticed this is too long, sorry. The point is, thank you.

You are welcome.

[businesstiramisu]

#why on earth would i interpret that to be specifically about vowel length

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[linguisticdiscovery]

What’s the difference between a writing system and an orthography?

A writing system is a set of symbols (called signs) that are conventionally grouped together into a script and used to represent language.

An orthography is a set of rules/conventions for using a specific writing system to write a particular language.

For example, the Latin alphabet is a writing system that’s used to write many different languages. Each language has a different orthography: English orthography is different from Spanish orthography, because the Latin script is used differently in English and Spanish.

There are thousands and thousands of orthographies (because there are thousands of written languages), but just a few hundred writing systems. Here’s a fairly comprehensive list of the world’s writing systems:

And another from Wikipedia:

Want to learn more about the world’s writing systems and their histories? Check out my curated list of book recommendations on Writing & Writing Systems:

[hadesisqueer]

Hot take but a lot of times you learn more and become generally more cultured by reading a lot than going to school. Also, in my experience, my friends who are great at Math or just leant towards Science always thought they were smarter than everyone else but got ridiculed later over lack of general culture. "I'm great at Math" okay David but you think Caesar was an emperor, you don't know when the Spanish Civil War started and ended (and bro you're Spanish), you think the Sistine Chapel was painted by Da Vinci and you don't even know how many autonomous communities your own country has. Also your orthography sucks and you think Spain only has a population of seven million?

[beautiful-basque-country]

They've turned Basque society into Basque-speakers, erasing every trace of their roots as well as their western heritage, without any objection. Official X account of the government of the Autonomous Community of Madrid.

1 - Why tf is the government of Madrid even commenting on Basque society?

2 - Verb "euscaldunizar" [of course they went for the Spanish orthography!] is obviously a Basque loanword. It comes from euskaldun which means Basque speaker (literally, the one who has the Basque language), and here it's used as something pejorative. Because Spanish nationalism = rampant Basquephobia.

3 - "They" - referring to PNV - made Basque people Basque speakers. There weren't Basque speakers before PNV in her head. Wow.

4 - Those erased roots... are they here in this room with us?

5 - And WTF is "western heritage", bitch, the West is considered to be a group of many countries and nations, each with their own heritage, wtf are you even talking about!!

[culmaer]

is this the same guy who sings "feliz Navidad, prospero ano y felicidad" ?

Someone in a FB group said AD stood for Ano Domini

…. Close, but not quite. It’s Anno Domini, “in the year of the Lord”. Ano Domini would be “in the anus of the Lord”

[krakenartificer]

This is... okay this is an insane message for me to send so I do apologize, but! The 'd' in 'djbouti' is so that readers don't try to make the 'j' into a 'zh', which is extremely common as a mispronunciation in English and French. The 'd' is "silent" but it gives readers an idea of where to place their tongue when starting the 'j', since English uses 'j' to represent multiple sounds. In this way it is similar to 'h' in Spanish! Okay, sorry for thebither. Have a lovely day!

No no, tasty knowledge nuggets are always appreciated, especially linguistic ones!

Yeah, I was thinking about this the other day while I was looking at lists of words with silent letters. Like, English orthography is a mess -- no one can dispute that -- but it's not as much of a mess as some of these lists are implying. Yes, there are exceptions to every rule, and some things you just straight-up have to memorize (sugar, my darling, what are you doing??), but actually most of the weird exceptions are things you've learned by the time you're 12, and all the harder words are pretty straightforward (if you know phonics).

Like, yes, the e in cane is silent in the sense that it's not pronounced ca-nee, but it definitely affects pronunciation (as explained most entertainingly by our good friend Tom Lehrer [x]). And once you know how to pronounce ph, tion, and how e affects the vowels ahead of it (and why you therefore need two fs in affect to stop the e from doing that) ... you can go a long ways on sight-reading English, even when -- as you say -- we're using d to harden a j even though that's not a "real rule".

One thing I wish I'd learned way earlier is that some of our "silent letters" are there to help you understand how words are related -- like the c in muscle, which isn't really doing anything, is there so you know it's related to muscular, where the c is very relevant. I can spell bureaucracy correctly on the first try every time now, now that I realize it's spelled that way because it's related to bureau. And even pterodactyl makes some amount of sense when you realize that the spelling wants you to know that it's related to orthopter, lepidopter, and helicopter.

Anyway, thanks for helping me pronounce Djbouti correctly!

[prommethium]

Nothing more humbling than uploading my last fic in Spanish to a Google orthography check... 17k words and 28 mistakes...

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[languageswithhomer]

❀𝒽𝑒𝓁𝓅 𝓂𝑒 𝒸𝒽𝑜𝑜𝓈𝑒 𝒶 𝓁𝒶𝓃𝑔𝓊𝒶𝑔𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇 𝒾𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓅𝑒𝓃𝒹𝑒𝓃𝓉 𝓈𝓉𝓊𝒹𝓎❀

Hi! I want to start independently learning a new language (alongside Castilian Spanish and German - which I study for my degree) but every day I change my mind on which one. So, I’ve decided to leave it up to the good people of tumblr.com. Find my propaganda for each language below the poll. Alternatively, recommend me a completely different language in the notes and make my decision even harder.

Propaganda for Scottish Gaelic:

♡ I have Scottish ancestry and family and friends who live in Scotland (some in Gàidhlig-speaking areas).

♡ I hope to study my master’s degree in Scotland.

♡ I have always wanted to learn a Celtic language and understand more about what came before English colonisation.

♡ The grammar and orthography look complex and fun.

♡ I care deeply about language conservation and this language is listed as “definitely endangered” by UNESCO.

Propaganda for Greek:

♡ I studied Classics for two years in college and believe it’s very important to have a working understanding of the modern culture when learning about a country’s history - as a matter of respect.

♡ I go Greece semi-regularly (maybe every four years or so) and it’s my favourite country to visit.

♡ I already know some of the basics.

♡ It’s an opportunity to learn a new writing system - and it doesn’t seem too difficult when compared with other writing systems like Cyrillic or Kanji.

♡ There are definitely the most resources available for this out of the three.

Propaganda for Hawaiian:

♡ (Note: I cannot find anything which lists the Hawaiian language as a closed practice but if it is, please let me know!)

♡ This is a “critically endangered” language - even more vulnerable than Scottish Gaelic.

♡ I’m very intrigued by its use of apostrophes and accents.

♡ I watched a documentary during a linguistics class on Hawaiian Pidgin and found myself captivated by the words which originated in Hawaiian.

♡ I would love to visit Hawai’i one day and want to show more respect to the people and their culture than many tourists seem to do.

♡ I have already found several resources to start my hypothetical Hawaiian learning journey (beyond Duolingo - which I refuse to use until it starts recognising the value of human translators).

☆ Note: this is my “fun” language, I do not care about “practicality” or number of speakers. I believe that all languages are incredible and should be learned. ☆

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[coquelicoq]

this is amazing and super interesting, thank you so much! i would love to see your notes next year if you are willing to share!!

i’m so interested in how english is taught as a non-native language. like, what do they tell you about stress? native speakers often do not even consciously realize that lexical stress is a thing (hence how the internet keeps rediscovering that you can change one english word to another word by stressing a different syllable). so is this something that is explicitly taught to non-native speakers? and if so, what do they tell you about it? like, are there rules and exceptions you have to memorize?