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panchulien Ā· 28 days ago
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Pan, there are a handful of people on here I wait for anxiously to ensure a piece passes, and you're one of them. Thank you for always gushing in the tags; it gives me motivation to write more to feed the Nikprice Army. (Also, mega-affirming when I try a different technique or style and it ain't total dogshit, lmao.)
I don't think you're capable of dogshit man. If you told me you were like, a NYT Best Seller author I'd just go "yeah makes sense" LMAO
I am genuinely so surprised everytime you post something because damn. I didn't know words could be like that. I don't know how you do it, but the way you write is beautiful. Thank you for all your work for the NikPrice army šŸ™
literally tweeted this after i finished reading LHSHSJDNF
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tsukasalover Ā· 7 months ago
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itā€™s kinda stupid to call rui ā€œsassyā€ or say he was acting ā€œmeanā€ for simply doing what any person would do realistically after tsukasa humiliated nene in the main story. i swear this fandom has gone over this a thousand times and yet for some reason itā€™s still so hard for people to accept that tsukasa was being a self centered asshole. thatā€™s not even exaggerating anything thatā€™s just the truth.
btw (if im wrong correct me) but rui has never gotten angry at someone unreasonably heā€™s actually quite mature and doesnā€™t just?? explode over things so i dont know why him refusing to work with tsukasa even after nene forgave him is seen as a ā€œmeanā€ thingā€¦ letā€™s not forget he still believed tsukasa hadnt changed at all and only wanted to be in shows for selfish purposes. itā€™s not bad to admit that tsukasa is egotistical and has acted much more mean in unacceptable ways than rui + has had to own up to this and work hard to grow as a person over time
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velarisdusk Ā· 1 month ago
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yall remember how rhys was gonna drink himself to death with cassian on the day of the feylin wedding, but then he heard her so he went to save her? one of my favorite things ever is the idea that theyā€™d already started drinking so he was tipsy (maybe even almost drunk ooo) when he went to go get her
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chrollogy Ā· 1 month ago
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step on me, fatui harbinger!yue šŸ™šŸ¼
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mintypsii Ā· 9 months ago
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author x barista cafe au (sanji is competing against himself)
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mellohiizz Ā· 2 months ago
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I really like the thought of parrot draping his wings on top of wifies and ken whenever they cuddle, that sounds cute ^_^
Also hi melmel
*chomp* NOM
HI KADE! im gonna start buying chew toys for you /silly
also, yes. i miss kenparfies a lot, man... i really love avians and thinking about parrot using his wings to cover/rest them on his friends makes me so happy. i like to think parrot probably isn't a fan of a lot physical touch, but if you're close enough he'd use his wings instead.
like he's always somehow have his wings touching you. it's almost like an intimate gesture, like holding hands with someone in avian culture(i like to think about it a lot). also like to think that whenever there's danger near, parrot subconsciously tries to drape his wings around wifies almost like he's trying to shield him. he does it without realizing, and wifies only commented on it once, at which parrot just got very flustered and told him to shut up. wifies never brought it up again, but he knows. ^_^
(also the thought of parrot's feathers puffing out a little whenever he's flustered or startled in some way is very silly to me. i like this one a lot.)
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gemini-queen42 Ā· 1 month ago
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Batb: Other Than Human - Themes stuff (& why I Called It That)
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That's right folks, the self-indulgent "throwing any concept I like at the wall and haphazardly mixing together what sticks" au rewrite Thing has Actual Themes! That kind of happened accidentally but they are so real for that so let's get into it.
The Main Narratives Themes Trio of the story now all also embody expanded themes about being an "Other", when being a person is not enough to be properly considered human- more specifically of a neurodivergent/queer girlhood type flavor.
Summary is that it's called "Other Than Human" because the prominent theming is about being considered something other than human due to not fitting the mold of the 'norm'.
[This is a long one so details & specific character stuff are under the cut<3]
Amalure has the greatest departure from her original counterparts thematic placing, so we'll start with her. Amalure retains Gaston's social standing, reputation, etc. But it's of course not quite the same- because she is a woman, and she is not revered for being the picture of ideal womanhood/femininity. Instead, she excels in masculinity, but remains firm that she is and always will be a woman. So, to justify the desire & awe people have for her, they dehumanize her: She doesn't need to follow the Rules because she is outside of them. Amalure is not a person: she is a symbol, a figure, an object. A legend, a folksong, a modern myth. Her skills are not skills they are blessings, inherent, a mundane magic or supernatural. Despite having grown up in Villeneuve for her entire life, she is considered exotic, and is practically, if not actually, fetishized. And through all of this, the status quo and social order gets to be retained without question, and she gets to exist as the exception that proves the rule, rather than the Undesirable that she'd be marked as otherwise.
Amalure is fine with this, because this dehumanization is her status quo: She doesn't really view herself as a person either, she is defined by her relationship to other people, by who she is to them. Amalure has never been a person to anybody: Growing up she was never just a girl, never just Amalure: She was a girl with a mans brain, an embodiment of her fathers greatest achievements, an embodiment of her mothers worst mistakes, she is her fathers daughter or her mothers daughter, but not her own. (and she never both, it is either or, mother or father, never both, never parents.)
Princess Eve/The Beast is the other end of this, of operating through her dehumanization. Upon being cursed, she adheres to what societies have oft wanted to happen to their Undesirables: Hide away and never be seen by the public again. It is entirely self-inflicted, as most of her suffering truly is. She operates not through others dehumanizing view of her, but her dehumanizing view of herself and its warping of how she believes others view her. Because, well, the servants still view her as a person. I mean, they're still human- under the new object forms. And the separation of humanity that is easy to slip into on matters of royalty is awfully minimal as well; they watched her grow up, and she grew up among them.
The girl's bratty, spoiled, temperamental, and is a ball of horrid consequences of the shallow views and ideals learned from surrounding nobility. But she's also the girl that fell asleep listening to Cogsworth explain the many technicalities to managing servants; because she was stubborn in asserting her authority as the mistress of the castle, and thus she Must have say over its goings ons. But the majordomo's voice can be awfully soothing when he's not high-strung on anxiety, and it's hard to pay attention when you don't understand what's being discussed, so its all going in one ear and out the other. And She's Lumiere's 'Evie', who was so amused when Lumiere would draw on a little mustache when dancing the male roles so the princess could learn some duo dances, or because she didn't look very "waiter-like" (because Eve wasn't entirely sure what a maƮtre d' did, but it seemed to have something to do with waiters), and who got annoyed every time the dance teacher/maƮtre d' would warn her not to hurt her body in her pursuits, because it seemed so silly, why would anyone do that? And she's the girl who dragged Mrs. Potts to have tea with her, because she made the best tea and as princess she would have only the best; and if you're going to have tea you may as well have a tea party, and you can't really have a party of one, but two isn't much of a party either so she's going to drag Babette away from her duties too, since the maid was so elegant and thus would be perfect.
Honestly, the girl probably would've turned out fine if she was raised by just the servants. But they weren't the only forces in her life: she's a princess, so she's got to host and interact with important people and learn how to Be noble which isn't something any of the servants can teach her. And it is under the pressures and eyes of nobility, is in mixing and learning their social rules, that learns the lessons that will lead to her curse: That to be considered human and treated as such, one must look human. And to be such as a woman meant to look beautiful, like the ideal. As a woman, to be worthy is to be beautiful and vice versa. And even if she does not, she must have some way to serve men. Otherwise, she is nothing. Eve met these requirements well, and where she did not yet her authority as princess covered. So when a beggar woman is at her doorstep, the princess turns her away: because she is old, ugly, so long past her 'prime'- there is no worth to her anymore. There is no point caring for her future.
Helene stands as both the middle ground and inverse to the other two. She is an Other by virtue of her mind, she is Objectifiable by virtue of her beauty. She sits on the precipice between Undesirable and Desired, seeming nearly apathetic to where she lands despite popular encouragement to embrace or smother aspects of herself. Helene is quite sure she's a person like anyone else, thank you, and is frankly frustrated and a bit weirded out that others seem to have a hard time getting the memo- she doesn't like or want to assume the worst, though, so maybe she just missed another confusing untold social rule or something. I mean, the local triplets really do seem to be advising in good faith- they really do think of her as one of them to an extent (for reasons Helene is yet to know); they just don't understand her.
When Amalure pursues her, there's an unspoken aspect to the deal of marriage she proposes: Helene will get a secured place on the in of the community, a secure standing the promises people no longer questioning or trying to encourage her to no longer be herself. But Helene just isn't interested in Amalure like that, and she also sees what the real trade-off of that security is; that uncomfortable dehumanization that is exactly what Helene doesn't want to deal with anymore. If Amalure is fine living with it than she is free to do as she pleases, but the huntress doesn't seem to understand what Helene could possibly have a problem with- and it's not like they can discuss it, because it's unspoken, and you're not supposed to speak the unspoken things, because they're unspoken for a reason- even if you don't know what that reason is. Helene knows that rule, at least.
When Helene meets the Beast, she regards her as she does any other. It's plain as day that the Beast has a humanity to her, whether she's really "human" or not- she thinks and she feels, and that's enough for Helene.
Because Helene grew up raised by a single dad who she got most of her brain workings from, and he is a man of compassion and science. Off he'd send his beloved daughter to go and question and figure out the world for herself, to experiment and learn and become whatever she desires. Off to bed he'd send her to tell her fairy tales and have their lessons of love and compassion and humanity understood as she drifted off to sleep. Helene was never Odd with her father, never Other, in fact they were so easily two of a kind. It was so jarring, hearing people imply Tyndare less than sane; his logic paths were so easy to follow- but apparently his voice gruffs enough that others have a hard time understanding what he's saying sometimes, so that's where things seem to get lost in translation she guesses. People became jarring in other ways as she grew up too, because suddenly there seemed to be lots of social things she was supposed to know or be but didn't and wasn't, and it became very apparent very quickly that she was an Other among her village.
Overall: Eve & Helene get to go through these themes through the main plot, and post curse-breaking is when Eve gets to properly deal with the internalized issues and whatnot. Like she's learned beauty doesn't matter when it comes to love, and shouldn't decide whether or not someone should be cared about, and Helene loves her despite her having been beastly and despite her being a failure of a woman- (because she no longer fits the feminine ideal after the curse is broken, and frankly she never will again.) But she's still a Failure Of A Woman and Helene deserves Better Than That! So there's still work to do.
Amalure remains static on this aspect of the narrative until after the battle at the castle, where she does survive! .. barely. and it's later, in an argument with her mother that same night, bleeding out on the kitchen floor, when she asserts that she's her daughter too, not just her fathers. she has always been her daughter, always will be, she is the daughter of both of them, because that's not something that just switches or turns on and off- and it's an entire rant that I will not recite here, but the important part is the assertion that she is, always has been, always will be, the daughter of both her parents at once- that's the first little step for her arc of recognizing her own individual personhood and whatnot.
#Amalure's mother is a CHARACTER alright#she has a ref I need to make too...#fun fact Amalure falls asleep in her childhood bed that night being convinced the last thing she did was yell at her mom#and acutely aware that there is no comfort for her in this house.#Wire monkey mother frfr#anyways uh hi.#how obvious is it that the person making this is a she/it ND sapphic???#because Hi hello that is I#Yes Helene is VERY definitely Neurodivergent.#I can easily say she's autistic because the traits she displays are most commonly associated w/ it#but tbh I don't have autism and I didn't give her those traits with specifically autism in mind or research#so she's just.. generally Not Neurotypical.#project whatever you want onto her as you will#Fun fact the physique change Eve gets after being uncursed is me finding a justification for me basing part of her design on thinking that#Amalure seeing her and immediately having the Worst gender envy of her life since her dad died#while Eve is having like the worst body image issues of her life#would be kinda funny lowk#Also I might have a type but shhhhhhh#anywayss uhhh#gem stop yapping in ur tags#batb: other than human#ramblez brambles#doodlez#I just did some mild editing w/ the ref art cuz I'm too lazy to make new shit for this and I didn't want this to Just be a text post#Princess Eve#Helene#Amalure#sorry of any of this is rambly/hard to read I randomly woke up at like 2:30am#idk when I started writing this post but idr doing much of anything beforehand besides making the little banner thing#and it's... 6:13am now.
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opikiquu Ā· 9 months ago
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aventurine pl. Plea s e . PLLEEEEEEASE
#ā˜… arin rambles#ā€˜here we go againā€™ you think everytime you see my ramble tag. I dont blame you#AVENTURINE AVENTURINE PLEASE SAVE ME WHITE BOY#OH MY LORD#OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS OH MY GOODNESS.#MY JSOE IS RUNNING HES RUINNING MY LIFE I CANT DO THIS ANYMORE IM SO ILL PLEASE I#AVENTURINE. im so serious i can talk about this man all day. and more specifically this video#ā€˜it was just posted 30 minutes ago arin youre scaring the kidsā€™ SILENCE. I NEED SPACE#I NEED A. A MOMENT. EVERYBODY PLEAS GETA WAY FROM ME IM GOING TO GET SO SCARY#Please. Im so sorry. Im begging you . I love this man oh my gish please hes so cute#HES SO CUTE. HES SO CUTE IM SO SICK OF HIM WHY???????? WHY IS HE SO PRETTY HES SO PRETTY HES GOREGOUS HES SO STUNNING. HELLO. HELLO.#Im going to. Slam my head against the wall im overwhelmed with joy and happiness hes everything ive ever wanted ever#any minute not spent talking about him is a moment wasted i promise you MY PRINCESS IM COMING TO SAVE YOU#IM HIS KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOUR EXCEPT ITS NOT SHINY#IM COVERED IN DIRT#IM STILL COMING FOR YOU AVENTURINE RUN#oh goodness me oh my#im so happy hes so prettu im so happy i cant do rhis im sweating geniumnly i feel so sick#Im cant . Do this anymore. I CANT TAKE IT. I HAVE TOā€¦ AAUGHā€¦ AAAHHā€¦ I HAVE TOā€¦. DANCE!#guysā€¦. he my favorrietā€¦#my slinkyā€¦.. my krimpetā€¦ my teacup i think. My doc mc stuffins doctor playset. My dishwasher. My italian coldsteel cinquedea . atp anything#hes my EVERYTHING. MY EVERYTHINGā€¦!!!!!!!! *MY TELEKENISIS THROWS EVERYTTHING ACROSS THE ROOM*#yall i dont think ive had a hyperfixation this horribly bad since. Since the. Since. MAN I DONT KNOW#IM COOKED. HE WOMT LEAVE ME ALONE. I LITERALLY DREAMT OF HIM LAST NIGHT LIKE IM SO DOOMED? ACTUALLY?#oh to be medicated and focus on . Things like cooking. Or idk. Getting a job. No i just think about some messed up blonde all day im absolut#ly DOOMED#yes im still yapping i got 30 tags u gon stick through them all. Every single one of them. Dont leave me please i want to talk about him ton#TO SOMEONE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HIM TO SOMEONE ALL DAY. ALL MY FRIENDS ARE TESTING. IM LEFT ALONE ALL DAY I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY WIFE#i womder how crazy i look right now#Sighs lovingly at him..
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lilacxquartz Ā· 4 months ago
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hi! iā€™m just gonna plug this because itā€™s all set up and approved at last, feel free to keep scrolling if itā€™s not your kinda thing <3 this does not change the content i post here whatsoever.
so i made a patreon exclusively for original fantasy & monster fucker smut/stories & nsfw versions of art bc yk why not.
> link to the patreon < (will also be on my profile)
disclaimer: all fanfics will be 100% free on here/on ao3 always, this is just a focus for original pieces. iā€™ll still on occasional post original smut on here & frequent fanfics (smut or otherwise) here, so that will not changeā€¼ļø
more info below the cut:
for the tip jar tier: ā‚¬1.50
access to info/monthly updates, so you know what to expect
access to my character cards so you know who iā€™m writing about
for other tier: ā‚¬5
the above + but also smut + sometimes art, sometimes itā€™ll be exclusive but otherwise itā€™s just process/full res versions
requests will still on occasion be open for free on tumblr, but if youā€™re into something more frequent, then itā€™s available. <3
i have posted pieces with my oc yandere incubus before on here & will continue to still on occasion (see for example on kinktober) release smut but just expect it to be much more often on there.
& on sunday you can expect a new character reveal. iā€™m really in love with her concept. šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø
this is 100% purely if you wanna support, there will never be any pressure to join <3 link will be added to my profile
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lonisaiou Ā· 7 months ago
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I love art I love drawing I love finding new artists and seeing their work and sharing their brainrots and ahhh art is so beautiful!!!!!!!!!! it's so amazing and freeing!!!!!!!!!!! go artists goo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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beegswaz Ā· 2 months ago
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ON DA FUCKINT GRIND šŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„
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vikaschuu Ā· 2 months ago
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OKAY LETS TRY THIS AGAAAAAAIN PLEASE POST
A redraw of a Perfect Blue (1997) with my OC
This is my character Aegis Betherial from my clown themed dnd campaign clownhouse! He is the prince soon to be king of the Kingdom of Raine. He is well beloved by his people for like a bunch of reasons- some superficial, some not so much as Aegis engages in a lot of criminal activity to undermine the aristocracy of Kingdom of Raine (KOR. He's my silly pookie bear!! His head of security and his sibling, Feragild (they/them), did leave him to become a clown (aka join the party) because they had feelings for one of the party members. And Aegis? Is not taking it well snskdkldldld he's the star of the next arc as the party got word that Aegis is going to be killed soon and well the clowns want to stop it
Which is why when I saw this Perfect Blue Poster, I KNEW Aegis was a perfect fit!
I could yap for days about my campaign and maybe I will! I have a lot of art relating to it but yeah enjoy!
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zainpartii Ā· 3 months ago
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should I indulge and dive in the crit scene ( I am the least critical person ever )
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steph-pilled Ā· 2 hours ago
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on other irrational petty shit i block over:
- group robin posts that ā€œforgetā€ steph n duke
- ALSO!! content treating duke n steph like extra bruce kids #1 n #2 with no personality except ā€œhaha memeā€
- jason todd posting with kory n roy as his little sycophants (rhato when i CATCH u)
- steve trevor
- tom king fans
- ppl who infantilize cass and use her to fix ā€˜batfamā€™ problems in fics
- incessant tag clogging (batboys fans iā€™m looking at YALL)
- joker yaoi
- ppl who set up my favs on polls they canā€™t win (that smartest robin one with steph in last still has me in shambles)
- x reader smut on character tags
- who TF is danny phantom
- did i mention steve trevor
- blue cheese
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lie-lover Ā· 26 days ago
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>haha funny post referencing the folgers incest commercial
>check tags
>its unironic ship art
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secondpersonpoetry Ā· 2 months ago
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hi! heard the released ā€œMerry Christmas, Please Donā€™t Callā€ (which iā€™ve seen youā€™ve heard live, if iā€™m not mistaken!!) this morning and i donā€™t know if thereā€™s really a particular vibe/dynamic/ship hrpf-wise (personally havenā€™t yet been able to put my finger on it) that quite relates but the lyrics have been rotating in my head all day and i was wondering if you had any thoughts? hope you have a good one! <3
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OH ANON HAVE I EVER SEEN IT LIVE!!! and the second that song came out i zoomed it straight into my fic playlist and unfortunately there are so many guys this could be. right now the one that's resonating is, of course, the golden boy and his haunted ghost themselves: mcstrome.
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i am thinking about connor, specifically, after the stanley cup final. that game seven. how angry he was, how loud the silence when they told him he won the conn smythe. how close he's come before and again and again lost. there's nobody else to blame but himself. he's in the empty room and he knows why (1)
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at!! your best!!! you were magic!!! oh, golden boy. connor the anointed, of course. at the very beginning of his career we always knew he was something special and who wouldn't have fallen in love with him? weren't all of us a little bit dylan strome in awe of the generational talent? we were all bathed in radiant light just by being in the vicinity (2)
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don't even tell 'em that you know me breaks my heart (3). in terms of building a narrative i think i've said before there is a universe where connor/dylan were together before the draft and to protect both of them, dylan breaks up with him. connor says i love you and dylan says i don't. because he doesn't, you know? he loved connor. he loved davo. he can't be in love with connor mcdavid, first overall pick of the edmonton oilers. i'd rather be hurt forever than have to watch us try to make this work and destroy us.
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and after connor mcdavid left the otters, dylan strome captained them to a memorial cup win. what a haunted home, eh? to be captain of the team you and your best friend were on, only now he's left you? don't call me to tell me about your rookie season with the oilers--we both know about your broken collarbone. don't call me to tell about becoming the youngest captain in franchise history when i stepped into the shoes of your captaincy here. don't call me. (4)
narratively: dylan's the one who broke connor's heart and his own but by god it wasn't easy. we both know what happened, you went first overall. please don't make this harder on me. please don't call.
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this verse can be about the weight of dylan having to live up to connor's standards and always being measured by him. i would just like to bring up the connor stepping stone chart for absolutely no reason as well (5)
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we are, at long last, at the potential future of now: dylan strome, happy, smiling, thriving on the washington capitals. connor, on the oilers. i'm not yours, dylan can say. haven't been for a long time. it took some time but i made this. please don't call and ruin this for me, stay out of my life. i don't want you or need you (6)
[p.s. this took a while because when i received this ask i was a) immediately possessed to write this verse by verse breakdown i had never thought of before and then b) immediately plagued by the idea of making you a little graphic (above the read more) and finally got to do it after banging out all the actual lyric thoughts two (?) weeks ago. emerging two and a half hours later from the fugue state of GIMP with 37 layers in this bad boy hope you enjoy!!!]
#not me being like did i tell y'all about seeing bleachers? and then just proceeded to take it at face value like yeah i probably did#do i remember when or in what context absolutely not. maybe re: popstar jack? also very possible i was just. yapping.#anyway we're gonna put tag footnotes for other potential pairings &dynamics because otherwise this post looks frankly. unhinged. which it i#(1) because i am nothing if not a parody of myself i would like to provide an honorable mention to the death of the goon in this lyric.#when does time stop? when is it just you & your anger? who's the person you've divorced yourself from because you couldn't catch their fist#in case it was not clear this is also incredibly a trade narrative. did we pick that up? this is lovers to enemies. this is we were not goo#for each other and i don't regret that. parise suter fans rise up. the speaker in this case is the minnesota wild org.#(2) there is a note of nostalgia and longing here--when you were magic. i remember when you were a giant to me. i remember the hope#and possibilities. rip to sidney crosby the next one and golden boy of this generation but this is sung like a rookie to the vet they once#idolized. i was sold and maybe i shouldn't have bought it. maybe you tarnished over time. or in a softer light it is a comfort not a#criticism i bought tickets to the show. at your best you really were something and you made me believe i could be magic too. SORRY. dylan.#sorry. he'll come up again later. but every team has a golden boy don't they? do we know the cathal kelly bedard article where he talks abt#eating your prospects alive by building a narrative they can never live up to & promising them every year so that when they can it's a shoc#(3) three line devastation here my god. don't pretend you were kind golden boy! don't you dare tell anyone what you told me because then#they'd know too. the ā€œcoming outā€ narrative of it is discussed but while i don't love this it's the easiest example i have: jamie & trevor#have we heard jamie talk about trevor in a single interview? sometimes after a guy you loved gets traded you don't want the reminder.#it's even worse if he chooses to leave. claude giroux hater-era au arc where we don't talk about him. jt leaving the islanders dead to them#(4) while not a trade the other draft narrative we grew up together to enemies is of course zach and dylan. zach roaming around ann arbor#please also apply to subsequent usntdp team 100/101/102 narratives. alex turcotte i'm sorry they never speak your name you will hurt foreve#(5) to counter the rookie to the vet narrative of the golden boy this is fairly explicitly To Me a vet about his rookie who's supposed to b#the promised one the one who'll save them all. dallas is coming to mind here but not for any real reason. nail yakupov are you there.#taylor hall curse of the 1OA. pretty common also for guys to take in a kid when you're barely 26 yourself & haven't got ur shit figured out#so. dealing with a neurotic driven kid? yeah this is somebody who had a golden boy &fell out of favor. got traded. ty smith j'accuse style#(6) or in another story please don't call because i'll come right back#goodnight chicago the playoff handshake line. please don't call me. please don't call me.#HELLO BESTIE!!!! i think this is a wonderful song for Fic Purposes and could be applied well to SO many different narratives. i picked a#specific example but do feel the dynamic is very much what the song says: toxic ex and/or family/friend you don't need in your life. trades#seguin leaving boston etc etc. there IS an answer eluding me besides mcstrome though. not toxic enough. tk pat trade? OH TK PAT. or older#trade deadline tragedy
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