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Rat back at the jim and going insane (positive) 🐀
#gym mention#I’m happy and excited to be lifting at a gym again ☺️#all the heavy lifting of gardening equipment and water in FL is OVER WE’RE SO BACK#blorbos and the urge to pick up friends fuels me HAHAH#ehn misc#doodles#sona#sona: rat king#my stuff
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so uhm
I hard core redesigned Nicholas
Now he looks a lil unhinged.
But ye
Look at him. So cool
Oh yeah and I made another oc to go with him. Sorta a package deal yk
The rat king. I'm sorry I love the nutcracker SJDBHDBD-
ANYWAY! this kingly slum crashed the circus not long after Nicholas did. (Roughly his age too) And as much as neither of them wanted to end up like the characters they were based on, ultimately they are rivals. Very very rivals (do not ship them I swear to God)
feral rat sounds
#the nutcracker#nutcracker#nutcracker oc#my art#nutcracker month#nutcracker season#the rat king#The rat king OC#tadc fanart#digital circus oc#tadc original character#tadc sona#the amazing digital circus oc#tadc oc#the amazing digital circus#tadc pomni#pomni#amazing digital circus#tadc jax#tadc moon#tadc#tadc caine#caine tadc#tadc bluetooth#Nicholas TADC OC#The rat king tadc oc#kinger#kaufmo#jax x ragatha#jax fanart
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How about yin pranking Peter. Art request.
*i crawl out of a flaming hole in the ground on my hands and knees. i am disheveled and holding charred pieces of paper held together with a paper clip* I FINISHED THE ART REQUEST
kissing prank your partner is cute, right?
#also alsoo my headcanon is that Rat the snake can communicate with the people she trusts#thank you for the ask!#ask#my art#my oc#my sona#yb sona#yn sona#peter king#peter dunbar#your boyfriend#your boyfriend visual novel#your boyfriend game#yb fandom#your boyfriend visual novel game#peter your boyfriend#y0ur boyfriend fandom#y0urboyfriend game#yourboyfriendgamepeter#ybg#y0urboyfriend#yourboyfriend#y0ur boyfriend peter#y0ur boyfriend#so many tags im tired lol
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FUVK I JUST GOT A REALLY GOOD FURSONA IDEA
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@gailzanimatez
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Okay! I don't know where you got the idea from and my best guess is that your brain is connected to mine via bluetooth but.
Me and Hoddie have a royal au and your animation made me think of it again.
Nothing crazy special, but...ah...I should probably give a little context yeah...hmm.
Uh, okay. There's a kingdom. whose king and queen have died, leaving behind several possible heirs who are not their direct children. Right now, the king's first general is sitting on the throne, because the power of the army is, you know, a pretty powerful argument in a fight for the throne, right? This creepy regent is Cass. And Cass came to power thanks to Hoddie, who's basically the king's heir too, but she's pretty distant and her chances of the throne are quite slim. This has made her a professional rat and back stabber. The whole palace is busy weaving intrigue and destroying each other in a competition for power. Contests in cunning and sneakiness. A maximally intellectually uncomfortable environment in general.
Until Hoddie finds the true heiress. The king's blood daughter, to whom the throne should rightfully belong.
Problem? The problem is that the heiress needs to be two years older to be old enough to rule. And Hoddie and Cass' goal is to make sure she lives to that age in an environment where every other person wants to frame or kill her.
That heiress is you, Tap. But we couldn't think of what you'd look like in this au ahaha.
MHHMMM I SEE ONCE IN A WHILE BRAIN BLUETOOTH IS A GOOD THING you left me a window for my part and I grabbed this opportunity with sharp teeth Since there was no mention of my part, I have the audacity to add my own version. Did I understand correctly that my existence as an heiress was not known? It would be strange if the king was not looking for me, if I was the only heir (by blood), which means they were hoping for a new child, or already had plans for an indirect heir, or wanted to hide me. What other power is there, besides the king and the army, that holds the common people? Church. The king could have sent me to be trained as a priestess in order to gain support from them (either I was not considered worthy of receiving the throne in the future, which is why they preferred to hide me, or the king so badly needed their support that he was ready to sacrifice his only blood daughter) . Thus, from a young age, the beauty of a non-existent world somewhere beyond the heavens was drummed into my head and, in general, “God speaks all our actions.” I have an inconspicuous appearance, a position above a simple servant, but such priests are usually considered to be the daughters of high nobles, but not the king himself, which is why not everyone could know who I really was. Thus, they forgot about my existence ~ After the death of the king and all the heirs, the church quickly realized what to do next, and crushed me to itself, hiding me from the world until I reached the age of succession to the throne. (But children could take the throne under a regent. Could Hoodi become my regent as one of the older contenders for the throne?) So, back to the turmoil. Hoodie found me at church. Since childhood, my worldview could have changed greatly under the influence of the church, so, well, you will have to hammer a lot into my head, in addition to the throne’s education (You know... it's bit complicated to make a human sona not as a stupid little ball XDD... it literally can't get a shape at this point... maybe you will place a real bunny as the new king? It will be eating cabbage 24/7 and everyone will be happy)
#You know~ I'm sure you know that church isn't a very good place~#commoner servants or lowly noble servants do not dare to say a word against the nobles. (The laws are no better than in the kingdom itself)#Tapa saw some horrors in here~#I tried to make a look closer to the rabbit#but I guess it will be mostly about the way I behave#And sometimes the most beloved kind of hairstyle - rabbit looking one#But it's a bit complicated to get used to all these after strict rules of the church#Tapa#Cass#Hoddi#royal au#my little happiness
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HO HO HO, MERRY CHRISTMASSSSS AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!! @froppu I am your secret santa! I hope you have a very whimsical and joyous day! <333
OH! I ALMOST FORGOT! Quick! Draw me a mustache! The nutcracker has a mustache in the movie! This needs to be PERFECT!
I quite like having a scepter, but it's a bit small for me... Do you think one of the children would like it after we're done? Or maybe we can make a bigger one, just for keeps..?
After a night of binging many Christmas movies together to get into the holiday spirit, Sun and Moon surprisingly shared the same sentiment; they loved the Nutcracker! Specifically the Barbie version, as they found the characters so fun and endearing!
That andddd while the elegance of the original was endearing, their attention spans seemed to be too shot to sit through the whole thing. Sun blamed it on their code being constantly changed, while Moon insisted it was just part of working in childcare. Needless to say they were very happy to hear you brought multiple versions.
Finding out through the usual post-movie "review" that it was not only your favorite Christmas movie, but also a movie many of the kids may know, they immediately wanted to get all dressed up and put on a short play based off it for Christmas Day! They can't wait to see everyone's faces, and yours too of course; now all they need is their favorite assistant to help them get all set up. <3
vvv Close Ups and Yapping for Frop! vvv
Close Ups
Helloooo!!! I hope you enjoyed the art! <3
I hope the sona turned out well, I am not the best at drawing people and so I tend to draw pretty cartoony when it comes to them, so I leaned into my cartoonier style for this one! They're very cute and I love the DCA themed sleeves. And the bows!!! Ah the bows are wonderful, I had to keep them on the costumes, they're just so iconic! (Also I love your moon design, idk what it is but you drew him so cute in the ref, his colors are refreshing, and I feel like he's secretly a sweetheart uaghhhh)
I couldn't help myself but make the image based off of the Barbie Nutcracker the moment I saw it was your favorite Christmas film, as I love that movie too! (Making this also reminded me how I had a crush on the Nutcracker when I was younger too, so thanks lol /pos)
While the DCA being separate animatronics aren't cannon, I wanted to do this idea anyway, so!!! Two boyos!!! Looking amazing in some nutcracker outfits ✨✨✨
Moon as the Rat King and Sun as the Nutcracker respectively :3
Have an amazing day Frop! And enjoy your holidays!!! I hope you receive a many a gifts. <333
#Merry Christmas and Happy holidays!!!#DCABeeTeamSS24#This was very fun to make :3#I wish I could have done more for the background#I am just super bad at backgrounds and unfortunately I had to finish 5 days earlier because of life reasons#So I had to rely on good ol' curtains drawn to finish at a decent time#There is legit an image of the daycare behind that curtain though lololol#Regardless I hope you enjoy <333#dca fandom#dca community#dca art#fnaf sun#fnaf moon#moondrop#sundrop#fnaf dca#fnaf daycare attendant#sona#other's sona#dca fanart#dca gift art#My art
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It has occurred to me I do not have an intro post.
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HI :] My name is Random and this is my main blog! (multifandom)
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20 yo 🦜They/it/she 🍓Demigirl + Acespec/Demisexual Lesbian 🏳️🌈 ADHD GAD
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☆ My Artfight! (Very new to it, follow me so i can discover your fellas...)
☆ See #My Videos for YouTube videos I've made :]
☆ Current hyperfixations:
Wreck-it Ralph (2012) tagged #wir, #wir video (sideblog: king-crawler)
The Great Mouse Detective (1986) tagged #tgmd, #gay rats
Transformers One (2024) tagged #tfone #gay bots #tf #transfotmers // maybe idk I’M NEW THIS FANDOM
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🚫 So we get along…
No bullying ❤️ Embrace cringe
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No glorifying sexual abuse/exploitative behavior❤️ Fictional or otherwise
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General: Birds/Ornithology ♡ Animated movies / shows, media analysis & filmmaking, Art (all of it), ecology/biology, most nintendo games, compelling sci-fi & horror
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Creators: Vinesauce, Jerma, freaks like that
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Music: I like electronic music I find on YouTube!
I listen to a lot of music by Halley Labs/Lapfox Trax. I also like Dream Puzzles, Nobonoko, C418, etc. Also stuff like Tally Hall and Lemon Demon but I’m sure you knew that just by looking at me
☆ Favorite Album: The Quick Brown Fox - NERVES ENDING
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🤓 CRINGE CORNER:
I’m a furry, therian and a selfshipper lmao
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🦜SONAS:
The silly little red parrot. Or a raptor sometimes (That's Me !)
☆ KIN LIST:
Kinning isn’t a super serious thing for me, but a few characters personally resonate with me a lot. AKA brooooo this is literally meeee
My sonas
Jevil
The Quick Brown Fox
Wow I thought there were more than that
NEXT.
♡ F/O LIST
These fixations last anywhere from 4 months - 2 years so I don’t have a lot of them lol
Jolyne Cujoh 🌊🧵💚(my only normal crush)
Spamton NEO 💸🎢💖(fav. my wife.)
TURBO??? (it’s complicated)
I have 2 dedicated fandom/selfship blogs also!
(Bigshotspambot) (King-Crawler)
♡ Thanks for reading! I hope this helped give u an idea of who I am :]
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part 8 cringe (warning suggestive / triggering themes)
info is outdated
mostly now made after account is created but i didn't post everything (or could be repost. i don't remember i made too many doodles)
anyway its my account so.. i do what i want (also unfollow if you don't like it tnx)
BTW BTW since wogot3 lore takes place pretty far in the future, i made an improved nevada aahw xD
(the middle is my friend's sona lol)
remember previous comic of the unique soldats that got told to remove themselves? will they kinda um.. merged into "rat king" ^w^
nowhere hank :p he's a bit nicer. only a bit.. and also only speaks in random animal noises. in the nowhere, people can see what he's thinking, and most of the time he thinks of emoticons
vvv hiveslugs are those little cute enemies from project nexus emerging from the hive boss vvv
1st / Prev / Next
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Hey guys, if you want some music
I've been putting together a playlist of what my AUs' themes would be
I'll be making a list under the cut of which song matches which AU (so don't check it out if you wanna figure it out for yourself!)
Da OG boi: Banana Man - Tally Hall
Android: Robot Rock - Daft Punk
Backrooms: H A L L S - CG5
Basically Villain: Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio
Beyblade: Beyblade Metal Fusion French opening
Brothers in Arms: Turn the Lights Off - Tally Hall
Cartoon: Duck Sauce - Barbra Streisand
Clone: I think I'm a clone now - Weird Al
Cyberpunk: Organic Self - Noisecream
Demon Banana: Demons - Imagine Dragons / Phoenix - ft.Cailin Russo and Chrissy Costanza
Dragon Pilot: Dragon Pilot Hisone to Masotan outro
Escaped Experiment: Monster - dodie
Explosive Personality: MINECRAFT CREEPER RAP - Dan Bull
Ghost: Ghost - Confetti
Godhunter: Godhunter - Aviators
Honey I shrunk the kid: So What - Three Days Grace
It's just a game: Losing My Mind - Mystery Skulls
Mad Guy Dead: MAD RAT HEART from the Mad Rat Dead OST
Mad Switch: Fuck You - Lily Allen
Magic: Dementia - Owl City ft. Mark Hoppus / ROACHES - Luluyam (I picked these songs because Mage is psychotic because of everything he went through)
Mountains: Les bronzés font du ski
Murder Drones: Disassembly Required - Liam Vickers
Mutant: Captive Normal from the Hi-Fi Rush OST (PLEASE CHECK THIS GAME OUT) / I'm My Own Master Now (Platinum Mix) from the Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance OST
Nyankees: meow - lvusm
Pacific Rim: Pacific Rim main theme
Phoenix: Phoenix - Netrum & Halvorsen
Pokemon: The Journey Starts Today - Walk off the Earth
Portal: Who I am - CG5
Post-Apocalypse: Survive - SOARA / Wasteland Outlaw - MAJESTY
Radioactive: Radioactive - Imagine Dragons
Reaper: The Man Comes Around - Johnny Cash
Sailing Seas: The Seven Seas - F-777
Sea Monster: Ocean Man - Ween
Simulation Collapsing: ECHO [Cover] - Alfakyun
Space: Starman - David Bowie
Spare: I Can't Decide - Scissors Sisters
Supers: Speed of Light - Joe Satriani
Swap: Sweet About Me - Gabrielle Cilmi
Tanuki: Heisei era Tanuki War (Spirited Season) from the Pompoko OST
Therianthropy: Wild Slide - Jules Gaia / T-Rex - K.Flay
Time Agent: This Time - PXL
Time God: Temporal Tower from the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky OST
Time Loop: Stuck in a Timeloop - Animadrop
Totally Spies: Here We Go - Totally Spies season 1 opening
Turning Red: Pandas Unite/Nobody Like U from the Turning Red OST
Unaware Eldritch God: God - Jake Daniels
Untitled Friend Game: Goose Goose Revolution - TheLivingTombstone
Werewolf: Animal In Me - Solence
Witch Vampire: Happy Halloween Rap ver. - nqrse
Zombie: Macabre Rotting Girl - Kathy-Chan / Stay Alive - FFM ft. Felix Bushe / INFECTED - STARSET
Junkyard King: Junkyard King - Navie D
Rookie Mistake (AU where my sona is present): Idontgivea***k - Rabbit Junk
And EMPIRES by Electric Swing Circus isn't for an AU but I thought it was a good fit for vanilla Ophelia
#My Friend Pedro#My Friend Pedro AU#i'll update the list and the playlist whenever i get ideas btw#and i'll put a link to this post in my Master Post
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Here's all the attacks I did for this year's art fight!
This was my first year ever so I wanted to start small by only having a goal of 10 attacks (which I did reach!)
All OC credits:
Lucius (1st) belongs to @echo-the-rat-king
Greta (2nd) and Deci (5th) belongs to demistasis!
Therm (3rd) belongs to @margo-mania
Puppet Sona (4th) belongs to @lab-katt
Waltz (6th) belongs to epiloguewirt!
Esse (7th) and Gristie (9th) belongs to @smallsmartkitty
Mystique (8th) belongs to alpacaduelist!
Astraea (10th) belongs to StarupintheSky!
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Turning my sonas into FAITH minibosses cause why not
Cindy/Cid would be somethin like "King of the Sewer" named after a king of rats, aka when a bunch of rats get their tails stuck together, ft. a bunch of toxic sludge cause why not
They'd follow u around in the sewer system and remain a neutral party, even help u fight/ They'd leave a note for you in every room, trying so hard to become your friend... unless you turned away from them for too long or tried to leave and turn into. that.
(also thank you to spotify for recommending me this song while drawing lol)
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Metal would probably also be a neutral party, mostly curious about what you're up to and check on u throughout the game during dark levels
They'd go bossmode if you pointed a flashlight at them
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Doodle dump
the monkey dude is VagnerdeSouzaS7
Spider sona (just a rat) with my friend's sona (Pinstripe-King)
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Please check out my passion project over on #my-silly-little-guys !
Want to support my work or commission me? Check out my Ko-Fi!
I’m the director of the unofficial Wordgirl Reboot, Wordgirl: Rewired, and applications for the project are always, ALWAYS open! (And so is my inbox!)
If I reblog your art that means I’m begging you to join wordgirl rewired
(Check out Wordgirl Armageddon, an effort to help all of us Wordgirlies make some new friends and have some fun :))
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ABOUT ME
NAME: SnickerDoodlez / SnickerzandDoodlez / Snickernova Doodlez
Nickname: Any variation of this! Snicky, Snicker, Doodlez, Snickerz, SnickyD…
Main Social: https://youtube.com/@snickerdoodlez9210?si=ZXtyZJl8kPCLS8iB
And as for Tumblr, you’ll see me more on @crown-of-roses-thsc !
She/Her; Straight; Minor
Hobbies/Skills: Drawing, Animating, Coding (learning), Writing
Language: English, American Sign Language (learning)
Neurodivergencies: OCD, ADHD, Major Depressive Disorder, maybe Autistic
Random Facts:
-I’m a theatre kid!
-I love horror / disturbing things, maybe a little too much
-I grew up on the Warriors fandom, and that’s an angsty angsty burden I’ll carry into every fandom I join
-I’m the director of Wordgirl Rewired!
-I’m a Christian, but don’t let that scare you off- I’m just here to have fun & spread positive vibes! *sticks a golden star sticker to your forehead* And I’m a huge horror fan…and fantasy fan….and I draw a lot of gore….Christians stop gatekeeping creativity (impossible? Not clickbait? Don’t try at 3:AM???)
Oh, and Friendly reminder to my fellow Christians that if you’re cursing someone out for doing or believing or BEING something you don’t agree with, you’re literally doing the opposite of what Jesus did….and I think you’ve got a might big plank in your eye that ya need to take out ;)
Sona:
~READ MORE FOR WAY TOO MUCH INFO~
Fandoms:
Wordgirl
The Henry Stickmin Collection
Don’t Starve / Don’t Starve Together
Wings of Fire
Warrior Cats
A Hat in Time
Wild Kratts
UnderTale / UnderTale Yellow
Favorite Movies:
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Live-Action Beauty and the Beast
Princess and The Frog
Secondhand Lions
Lilo and Stitch
Stranger Than Fiction
Into The Woods
Isle of Dogs
The Greatest Showman
Les Miserablés
Padak
The Rise of Miss Power
Coraline
School of Rock
Favorite Musicals:
Beetlejuice
Phantom of the Opera
Into The Woods
Les Miserablés
Heathers
Guys and Dolls
Favorite Color:
Magenta
Favorite Show:
Spy x Family
Wordgirl
Gravity Falls
DuckTales 2017
Camp Camp
Bojack Horseman
Parks and Recreation
Favorite Song:
House of Memories (Panic! At the Disco)
As the World Caves In (Matt Maltese)
Please Never Fall in Love Again (Ollie MN)
Karma (AJR)
Red Flags (Tom Cardy)
Lost One’s Weeping (Neru)
Cupid (Jack Stauber)
Goodbye to a World (Porter Robinson)
Sweet Rosalie (American Murder Songs)
No Children (The Mountain Goats)
The Haunted Phonograph (ThouShaltNot)
Puff The Magic Dragon (Peter, Paul & Mary)
The Ballad of Billy The Kid (Billy Joel)
Stranded Lullaby (Miracle Musical)
Business Man (Tom Cardy)
Favorite Song Artist:
The Stupendium
They Might Be Giants
The Mountain Goats
Jack Stauber
Lemon Demon
Evelyn Evelyn
Tally Hall
American Murder Songs
Mother Mother
Kaden McKay
Favorite Book:
Crookedstar’s Promise
School for Good and Evil
Warrior Cats (Arc 1)
The Bunker Diaries
Prisoner of Azkaban
Survivor Dogs
Favorite Food:
French Fries
Croutons
Goldfish
Kanelope
Favorite Game:
A Hat in Time
The Henry Stickmin Collection
Splatoon
Wolf Quest: Anniversary Addition
Don’t Starve Together
King’s Quest
The Witch’s House
Super Paper Mario
Cuphead
Undertale
Favorite Animal:
Tasmanian Devils
Rats
Kangaroos / Wallabies
Komodo Dragons
Dragons
Pigeons
MY BABY BOYS:
(Note: I am not defending any of these characters Mineta is a horrible person I just like skrunkly little fictional simps and gravitate towards the characters everyone hates)
Felix White (Henry Stickmin)
Tobey (Wordgirl)
Nuka (The Lion King 2)
Whisper (Survivors)
Spike (My Little Pony)
Spike (Friendship Is Witchcraft)
Minetta (My Hero Acedamia)
Hort (School For Good and Evil)
Sheldon (Splatoon)
Lefou (Beauty and The Beast)
Tammy (Tammy)
Plankton (Spongebob)
Zach (Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt)
One-Eyed Wally (Amphibia)
Emmet (Legally Blonde)
Dr. Hare (Poptropica)
Todd (Bojack Horseman)
Muck (Bob the Builder)
Octavio (Splatoon)
Pokétwo (Discord)
Tom (Parks and Recreation)
Rumplestiltskin (Shrek 4)
Squid (Wings of Fire)
Darkheart (Care Bears II: The Next Generation)
Zach Varmitech (Wild Kratts)
Garry (Ib)
Bartok (Anastasia)
David (Camp Camp)
Varian (Tangled the Series)
Frankie (Spy x Family)
Mayor Humdinger (Paw Patrol: Movies)
Mortimer Freeze (Cuphead: The Delicious Last Course)
Wally Warbles (Cuphead)
The Peas (VeggieTales)
Chameleon (Wings of Fire)
Jax (The Amazing Digital Circus)
Wilson (Don’t Starve)
Mad Dummy (Undertale)
Napstablook (UnderTale)
Toad (Mario)
Flick (Animal Crossing: New Horizons)
Ares (Percy Jackson)
Louie (DuckTales)
Gyro Gearloose (DuckTales)
Sirius Black (Harry Potter)
Hawt Sauce (Chikn Nuggit)
Swiftpaw (Warrior Cats)
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You mentioned that a wereform is a reflection of someone's inner self. With that in mind, how are the furries dealing with the Vani invasion and monsterfication?
Dunno! can't really speak on behalf of the furries during the alien apocalypse. what i CAN say, however, is that just because you have a fursona, that does not mean you're getting that sort of form when you turn into a Were.
you have a fox sona? welp..... sorry, you're a platypus monster now. you wanna be a lion wolf hybrid mix, king of the junjle? you're a rat now actually.
we didn't choose to be born as a human, and we can't really change our natures. so we can't change our inner selves
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did rat girl want to become a giant rat or was it a body horror thing
yes and yes!
she was already a furry with a rat fursona when the cosmic rat king bestowed her with Rat Powers™, and when she was a newbie superhero her costume included the fursuit head of her rat sona that she'd previously commissioned and just had lying around.
the transformation and the weight gain that accompanied it were both unexpected, but the process physically felt so good and the irresistible urge to use her powers became stronger and stronger, which accelerated the progression and basically guaranteed that there would be no turning back. naturally this caused her a measure of distress, but the transformation felt so incredible and arousing that fairly quickly she began not just to accept its inevitability but to unabashedly revel in the changes that were happening to her.
she's also fairly different in terms of personality nowadays than she was when she first got her powers, and it's difficult to tell what's simply been the natural growth and change we all go through as people and what's been supernatural personality alteration due to the physical transformation she's undergone. but hey, we love some sexy ambiguity in our tf stories ;3c
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