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robert smirke being just some fucking historical guy in england will never not be funny, like imagine being robert smirkes ghost and you hear that theres a piece of media talking about your achievements and such long after youve died. you reasonably get excited and alexander hamiltions like dude be careful. its never good when youre in media now adays. and you shrug it off because hamiltion was a great musical. and then you listen to the magnus archives. and holy shit. you wished it was hamiltion.
#tma#the magnus archives#tma podcast#shitpost#hamilition#shout out to my main man robert smirke#lets not forget tmagp where issac newton pulled some victor frankenstein ass shit#what is jonny sims writing if not abosutely screwing with dead historical figures#thats why we love him
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So, Apollo and jewellery!!
I want to start off by saying that Apollo (or any male god, really) wearing jewellery is not a common occurrence in the ancient greco-roman art forms. So there's not a lot you can get, but I've put together whatever I've found so far.
On the vase paintings, you'll find body chains across his chest and there's bracelets too:
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^ He also has a leg bracelet in this one
In this painting, along with a body chain and a bracelet, there's a thigh band and a finger ring as well.
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Then we have waist belts. I did entertain the possibility of this being an embroidered belt. However in the first image, the belt is gilded with gold, so imo it's meant to be a belt with gilded gold, if not made entirely of gold.
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In this Etruscan painting representing Apollo going to/coming back from Hyperborea on a swan, he's wearing necklaces.
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Apollo wearing a necklace and an arm band seems to be a fairly common sight in the Etruscan art (so Aplu, technically ig), as seen in these two statuettes:
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and some Etruscan mirror arts:
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Now moving onto the diadems! A diadem referred to something you could tie your hair with - it could be a ribbon, a wreath of fresh leaves, or a jewelled wreath/head piece - it's the last one that I'm counting as jewellery. Diadems like the one Apollo is wearing below were usually worn by noblewomen.
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You can also find depictions of Apollo with a jewelled wreath on his head. They resemble a laurel wreath, but they're made of gold, and have gems embedded. Here's a statue for example:
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There are also Roman frescos and mosaics that show you what it actually looks like in color.
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And here, you can see not just a gold diadem, but also bracelets on both his hands as well as anklets on his legs:
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And there's what seems to be earrings as well? But honestly I'm not that sure, it could just be a damage on the fresco (even if that's the case, we can still appreciate the winged eyeliner amirite)
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There's also this fresco of Apollo judging a beauty contest between Venus and Hesperus. Here he is not wearing a gold wreath, but there is a gold band upon his head:
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And unlike other pieces of jewellery, you'll find literary references as well for Apollo's diadem:
"When Apollo was born, Zeus equipped him with golden headband and lyre and gave him also a chariot of swans to drive" – Alcaeus, Hymn to Apollo (trans. David A. Campbell)
"Apollo puts his hair in order by shaping his flowing locks with soft foliage and braiding it with a golden diadem." – Virgil, Aeneid 4 (trans. Ingo Gildenhard)
"...he fastens bay about his lyre and the woven brilliance of his coronet, and ungirds his breast of the pictured girdle..." – Statius, Thebaid 6 (trans. J. H. Mozley)
"But you will say, Phoibos has a goldgleaming diadem." – Nonnus, Dionysiaca 4 (trans. William Henry Denham Rouse)
[Inscription]: "Apollo the mighty, Lord incomparable of the Diadem, who hath set up statues of the Gods in this kingdom" – Ammianus Marcellinus, History 17 (trans. John Carew Rolfe)
[Inscription]: "Mighty Apollo, seated upon truth, Lord of the Diadem, who hath gloriously honoured Egypt as his peculiar possession" – Ammianus Marcellinus, History 17 (trans. John Carew Rolfe)
And that's pretty much everything I've come across so far. I was a bit surprised at the lack of literary references for the effeminate gods. Not just Apollo, even Dionysus' effeminacy is described by his fair face and long hair and perfumed garments, and there are no mentions of jewellery afaik. But of course, just like with Apollo, you can find jewellery on Dionysus in the visual arts.
#Apollo#“is that an earring or just a very strangely drawn earlobe?” <- me looking at some of the vase paintings#and it was indeed a weirdly drawn earlobe everytime#lol#also I was internally giggling when I was zooming in on Apollo's finger ring in that one painting#i know rings as symbols of betrothal wasn't a concept in that time period but-!!#i couldn't help but think “ooooh who gave him the ring? 👀”#also anyone who knows more about ancient greek jewellery please tell me if men wore body chains at all??#because I couldn't find anything to support that historically#but in the paintings several male figures wear it so it couldn't be coming out of nowhere right??#mine#apollo info#jewellery
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#ok some context for thomas jefferson peepers#i think watchdogs back on their home planet draw fanart of him like that cuz hes basically like a historical figure to them#n also cuz its funny asf#woy#wander over yonder#save woy#art tag#meme tag
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“I will write love letters to you that will still be read a century after we are gone.” — Pietro Bembo to Lucrezia Borgia, July 1504
A lock of Lucrezia Borgia's hair displayed in a glass case at the Pinacoteca Ambrosiana in Milan. It was discovered around 1680, was preserved along with love letters between Lucrezia and Pietro Bembo.
#there's also a book (which i'm about to read very soon) that transcribes their love letters !!#it was said their love letters to each other were considered the most beautiful love letters of all time#and when i do some historical revisionism and make them about lucrezia and cesare instead then what...#jokes on bembo though !! even juan's letter to lucrezia about loving her and missing her were more romantic aww don't make that face#hopefully bitter history nerds won't be taking what i say in the tags very seriously#lucrezia borgia#the borgias#history#italian renaissance#borgia#pinacoteca ambrosiana#renaissance#borgias#historical#historical figures#milan#italy#tb text post
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I just learnt there's a new movie about Chopin in the making O: It's called "Chopin, Chopin!" and directed by Michał Kwieciński; all the info about it is just from the last month so there's no teaser yet
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#maybe of interest to some#I know that the 2002 movie is beloved by polbr for the truly deep and introspective chicken scene#but I'm always happy to see more media about historical figures
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a last day // 1911
// the escalation (graphic! NSFW!!! oh no what are the men doing🥒💦) herein is a patreon exclusive, do consider dear readers 😎✨//
#and there is like 17 squares of it yumyum#1911#historical fantasy#i keep writing the nasties into these things so i am struggling to figure out how to even share some of the stories cuz#at least one so far starts in the bedroom so i cant fade out like usually ahahahah
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Worm!!
#sewing#handmade#worm off the string#giant worm on a string#idk what it is with me and giant worms lately#I also don’t know what I’m going to do with this work#*worm#this worm is about three feet long#for some reason I’m thinking maybe its name should be Garibaldi?#but upon looking up the name (because it rang a bell)#perhaps I should research the historical figure more before deciding. I only knew about the fish#it’s just a fun name to say. maybe I’ll name it Archibald
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The only thing I disagree with is the implication that Bechdels transphobia to trans men is not as serious, because it is. But in this case she has also done a lot of important activism in other areas which is why she's a legend in the lgbt community, and the flaws in her work and her personal politics cannot be overlooked. And in comparison to Andrew Hussie, her work is obviously more significant. Obviously. Andrew Hussie has always been an OPEN racist bigot who wrote the n word into their comics and just cause a bunch of white lgbt ppl found solace in a comic made by a blatant bigot who encouraged children to say racist, ableist, transphobic, misogynistic slurs doesn't make homestuck in any way comparable to Bechdel's comic.
You don't get to point the flaws out in the work of a lesbian historical figure just so you can get people to ignore the work of done edgy cunt who hasn't done a minute of actual lgbt activism in their life. If we're holding everyone accountable we will hold anyone accountable, get a grip.
#and i encourage not idolising historical figures but i am also not going to tolerate anti intellectualism in favour of some stupid racist#comic written by a white person who loves being racist
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1/? tudor aesthetics:
⎯ henry vii and elizabeth of york
#gonna post some of my picspams here#historical figure aesthetic#edit#historical edit#history aesthetic#aesthetic#perioddramaedit#*my edits#the white princess#twpedit#henry vii#elizabeth of york#henry x lizzie#jodie comer#jacob collins levy#otp: the welsh dragon and the white rose#tudor aesthetic#tudor era#picspam
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Wild how we know that Elizabeth Woodville was officially appointed to royal councils in her own right during her husband’s reign and fortified the Tower of London in preparation of a siege while 8-months pregnant and had forces gathering at Westminster “in the queen’s name” in 1483 – only for NONE of these things to be even included, let alone explored, in the vast majority of scholarship and historical novels involving her.
#lol I don't remember writing this - I found it when I was searching for something else in my drafts. But it's 100% true so I had to post it.#elizabeth woodville#my post#Imo this is mainly because Elizabeth's negative historiography has always involved both vilification and diminishment in equal measure.#and because her brand of vilification (femme fatale; intriguer) suggests more indirect/“feminine” than legitimate/forceful types of power#It's still bizarre though-you'd think these would be some of the most famous & defining aspects of Elizabeth's life. But apparently not#I guess she only matters when it comes to marrying Edward and Promoting Her Family and scheming against Richard#There is very lacking interest in her beyond those things even in her traditionally negative depictions#And most of her “reassessments” tend to do diminish her so badly she's rendered utterly irrelevant and almost pathetic by the end of it#Even when some of these things *are* mentioned they're never truly emphasized as they should be.#See: her formal appointment in royal councils. It was highly unconventional + entirely unprecedented for queens in the 14th & 15th century#You'd think this would be incredibly important and highlighted when analyzing late medieval queenship in England but apparently not#Historians are more willing to straight-up INVENT positions & roles for so many other late medieval queens/king's mothers that didn't exist#(not getting into this right now it's too long...)#But somehow acknowledging and discussing Elizabeth's ACTUAL formally appointed role is too much for them I guess#She's either subsumed into the general vilification of her family (never mind that they were known as 'the queen's kin' to actual#contemporaries; they were defined by HER not the other way around) or she's rendered utterly insignificant by historians. Often both.#But at the end of the day her individual role and identity often overlooked or downplayed in both scenarios#and ofc I've said this before but - there has literally never been a proper reassessment of Elizabeth's role in 1483-85 TILL DATE#despite the fact that it's such a sensational and well-known time period in medieval England#This isn't even a Wars of the Roses thing. Both Margaret of Anjou and Margaret Beaufort have had multiple different reassessments#of their roles and positions during their respective crises/upheavals by now;#There is simply a distinct lack of interest in reassessing Elizabeth in a similar way and I think this needs to be acknowledged.#Speaking of which - there's also a persistent habit of analyzing her through the context of Margaret of Anjou or Elizabeth of York#(either as a parallel or a foil) rather than as a historical figure in HER OWN RIGHT#that's also too long to get into I just wanted to point it out because I hate it and I think it's utterly senseless#I've so much to say about how all of this affects her portrayal in historical fiction as well but that's going into a whole other tangent#ofc there are other things but these in particular *really* frustrate me#just felt like ranting a bit in the tags because these are all things that I want to individually discuss someday with proper posts...
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Further fun in the notes of that terf’s Complaining About Things Nobody Said, In A Video I Didn’t Watch post
Who wants to make “Corset-Defending Coterie” t-shirts?
#historical costuming#dress history#will go nicely with the Corset Apologist pin I want to commission someday#The same comment was incredulous that the YouTuber dared to criticize some thing Mary Wollstonecraft said#which honestly seems like a very dangerous way to look at historical writing. Like. No figures should be considered critical analysis#yes she contributed a great deal too early feminist thought. But if you can’t accept criticism of what she said#you’re putting her on a pedestal and that’s not a great way to think about historical people#*above critical analysis
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guess who dug up some old ocssssss
these were all supposed to be in shows at some point. maybe I’ll remake them if I’m bored
these are from last year and earlier this year
#fun fact renaissance painting was based off a real guy in my universe who was also called renaissance painting#he was like a historical figure of some sort iirc#object show art#object show community#osc oc art#osc fandom#osc ocs#osc oc#osc art#osc community#osc#object show fandom#object show oc#object shows#object show ocs#objectshow#objectsona#object show character
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last night i had a dream that i was gru from despicable me lounging in bed with my beautiful wife lucy and when i woke up i found myself indescribably disappointed
#there was a lot of other drama happening in that dream too#some dude named michael jackson traveled back in time to kill the baby form of his arch nemesis - rasputin#i should clarify that they are NOT the actual historical figures; theres just a secret society of ppl coincidentally named after famous ppl#and they all have crazy beef with each other#I ALSO HAVENT SEEN DESPICABLE ME OR ANY ASSOCIATED IMAGES IN A WHILE SO IDK HOW MY PSYCHE LATCHED ONTO GRU
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#clone high#clone high double helix#scudworth#Starting my new comics blog on my birthday while at a funeral feels significant in some way#The first actually comic will be posted this week!#I’m still not sure if I made the premise clear enough#but all the historical figures have been clones again#a new clone of Lincoln#a new Cleo#new JFK etc#CHDH main#Escape from the Meat Locker: A Clone Again Naturally
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Message for amrev/hist. Lams Tumblr!
Let's talk about Du Ponceau portrayal. Du Ponceau isn't girly, he's soft. Du Ponceau isn't a pushover, he's kind. Du Ponceau isn't semi-bilingual, he's fluent in around 10-12 languages, and learned English as a small child, pursuing it since, even being mocked for it in school. Du Ponceau isn't a goddamn plaything. If you want to portray him as Von Steuben's partner, do it, but don't forget that homosexuality was fully illegal in the 18th century, even if they were around safer people at Valley Forge. Du Ponceau isn't stupid, he's curious. Du Ponceau isn't a throwaway filler character with zero trauma and no real life, he's one of the most complicated historical figures in the fandom, I'd say. It feels weird to call real people a fandom, but please take this into consideration.
#amrev#american revolution#amrev fandom#historical lams#lams#john laurens#alexander hamilton#baron von steuben#von steuben#serious#pierre etiénne du ponceau#pierre duponceau#peter du ponceau#peter stephen du ponceau#history#historical figures#uwu#i actually dont know how tags work just reblog this for people who might need to touch up on some of these#👍
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scout tf2 yaoi fans, i use my encyclopedic knowledge of queer music to bring you: this verse from Pansy Division's Beercan Boy
use it wisely. or stupidly this is tf2
#team fortress 2#tf2 scout#tf2#meme crop#blog#i had sniperscout in mind just cuz its my fave but you can apply it to whatever ship you see fit#heavyscout would probably be the most accurate tbh lol#on a more serious queer music in tf2 note#i like to imagine spy figuring out that Scout is figuring out that hes into Boys#and getting a copy of the 1962 album Love is a Drag (For Adult Listeners Only)#(if you know you know)#(if you dont go google it. read the lore on queermusicheritage)#and sneaking it into scouts room or somewhere else he could Conveniently Stumble Upon It#yknow classic distant dad trying to be supportive move#and scout listens to it like 👁️👄👁️#ok last Historical Queer TF2 headcanon all the magazine in medics waiting room are ''Physique Magazines'' he has subscriptions to hkgfdssjk#he only puts out old editions he doesnt care about because he realized quickly that pyro likes to burn them#and some of them also just Mysteriously Disappear ;) (the other mercs steal them)
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