#snw liveblog

[joshuaalbert]

i gotta be honest i feel like pike is the captain for people whose favorite avenger is iron man

[fluorescentbrains]

one issue with re-treading tos era trek that is perhaps minor but is very annoying to me personally is you get disconnects like having medical tech that can temporarily alter people at the genetic level to disguise them as aliens, but if you get fried by delta radiation there’s just no treatment that can mitigate any of the effects, and also hospice care is apparently still a horrifying nightmare even in this advanced utopian future. like pike’s prospects should not be this miserable. he should expecting a flying wheelchair at the bare minimum

[thefakerachelray]

Is it just me or does has this season of Discovery been more episodic than in the past? It feels that way to me and I kinda like it. I wonder if they took some notes from Strange New Worlds.

[cogentranting]

The Acolyte has so many fun new girlies, it's like Star Wars' answer to Strange New Worlds.

[lonesomedreamer]

SNW Liveblog: S3 First Look

Inflicted on me requested by @thekenobee (source)

EVERY TIME I think the hair and makeup team can’t do Christine dirtier…they do. What vibe are they going for here, exactly, reverse Wednesday Addams?

Remember the whole “not fucking with people’s genetics” law thing? The one that got Number One into such hot water last season? No? Neither do the writers!

I do like Uhura’s new look.

Are they turning into…werewolves?

What the actual fuck were they thinking?! This is so bad. Hilariously bad. The Romulan look was (intentionally) awful on Shatner, but this takes the cake. Also: why did his HAIRSTYLE change...?!?

Also, the season hasn’t even started yet and they’ve already ripped off TOS again.

Everyone’s hairstyle magically changed, actually. Why not…

Some of the WORST fake eyebrows I have ever seen. My poor girl.

“I had the same problem with LSD in the 1960s.” Okay, that one made me smile a little bit. I love Pelia.

Anyway, he’s beautiful.

“Wow, your ears are so pointy.” Scotty, I’m so sorry that your character, too, will be ruined by these incompetent writers…

“Four and one-half Vulcans to beam down.” Needless Cruelty to Spock: The Show. As usual. Also, why does Pike need to specify instead of saying “five to beam down”? (I know, I know—it’s supposed to be funny. It isn’t.)

These writers don’t understand Vulcans at all. They don’t have superpowers. They’re not magical. They can’t complete some complex, dangerous mission in thirty seconds just by virtue of being Vulcan! And they aren’t all inherently judgmental and/or racist just because of their genetic code???

“It appears that we will remain Vulcans indefinitely.” Yeah, it’s almost like purposefully messing around with people’s genetic code is against Federation law for a REASON…

Even assuming they have a good in-universe explanation for this subplot when the episode is released, it’s just a gimmick, and it’s not even one new to SNW! Did the writers turn to each other and say, “Spock becoming fully human last season was just so hilarious that we should do it again with other members of the crew”? It’s not original, almost none of the dialogue was funny—and you can tell that a lot of it’s meant to be funny—and them make-up is really quite bad.

I’m lowering my already-low expectations.

[rivercule]

Spock: “I’m worried about my girlfriend”

Uhura and Ortegas: “Our girlfriend”

[lacedspine]

watching subspace rhapsody i’m so scared it will either be amazing or terrible. i’ll liveblog my thoughts on each song!

[prettylittlelifeforms]

“Born in space on the USS Iowa” hehe I see what you did there

[girlbosslrell]

YA GIRL IS FINALLY WATCHING THE TORONTO SNW EPISODE AAAHHHH LET’S FUCKING GOOOOOOO

[spockasmr]

they better not kill him off <- clueless

[joshuaalbert]

idk I just. don’t really like that they felt uhura needed to have a tragic backstory for the audience to sympathize with her or to establish her character or whatever. obviously in real life there’s no narrative purpose for people dying, it’s just a thing that happens, but in this case writers decided this character needed an external reason to join starfleet even though they’d already given her a perfectly good internal one. she was already an incredible linguist and starfleet is…kind of the optimal place to use that knowledge unless she wanted to be a diplomat, so she could have literally just wanted to be in starfleet. alternately, I get wanting to have the conflict of a character feeling like theyre the only one without absolute conviction that this is where they’re supposed to be (whether or not that’s actually the case) but if they wanted to do that with her, they could play it so there are aspects of starfleet that don’t appeal to her, but she doesn’t feel like her talents would be well-utilized anywhere else so she joins anyway. at the very least, I’m glad they didn’t just 100% use a tragic past in place of present characterization, but it kind of just ends up like they’re traumatizing a black woman for reasons that aren’t even necessary for the story they want to tell with her.

[fluorescentbrains]

i like that t’pring is her own character in snw, with specific motivations and interests—i just don’t understand what they’re trying to do with her and spock, and how they’re supposed to get from where they are here to where they end up in amok time

[chiefnooniensingh]

"does anyone feel like their references are weirdly specific"

i love fourth wall breaks like this

[irate-iguana]

SNW writers, repeat after me: romantic love is not inherently more meaningful than platonic love.

[lonesomedreamer]

SNW Liveblog: “Under the Cloak of War”

another installment of Grimdark Trek in which SNW tries its hand at “Conscience of the King” without understanding that episode’s ethics.

or: The Wrath of M’Benga

A fantastic look for her! (Finally.)

Ortegas sucks, is judgy/borderline racist, and insubordinate. What else is new?

The choice to put war in Christine and M’Benga’s backstory still makes very little sense to me. I know Christine was underdeveloped in TOS, but this background has nothing to do with that character.

“Chris needs us [at dinner].” Why, though? They both clearly have pretty bad cases of PTSD (M’Benga almost had an actual heart attack in the previous scene), whereas Pike does not. So why does he need them there, for (lack of) moral support? Christine’s dating a Vulcan—maybe she should call M’Benga out for being illogical.

Protective boyfriend Spock!

“Our captain needs us.” This again? He needs them for what? And as CMO, M’Benga should be well aware that neither he nor Christine are medically fit to represent Pike, the Enterprise, or the Federation at large in their current emotional states.

NOT the Superpower Serum subplot coming back. It was stupid in 2x01, it’s stupid now.

Why do Klingon prosthetics/makeup look worse now than they did in the 80s? His scalp looks like it’s made out of plastic. (Which maybe it is. But that's the problem.)

Christine’s often emotionally unavailable partner is attempting to be warm/supportive/empathetic in his own way, and she’s pushing him away. I do understand that SNW!Christine is traumatized and suffering from PTSD, which may cause her to behave in ways others see as irrational…but she was able to cope with the horrific events of “All Those Who Wander” and to offer emotional support to Spock afterwards despite the likelihood that those events were probably upsetting/triggering. So her behavior here makes no sense to me. Maybe the writers hadn’t thought up this backstory for her back in Season One…

“War changes people.” But this episode isn’t going to explore whether it actually changed Rah, is it? Or whether he is/can be/should be redeemed?

“How can we represent a Federation that believes in peace if we say some people aren’t allowed to make up for their past?” Wow, the writers are actually allowing Pike to be articulate AND correct? Granted that he’s been a total insensitive dumbass so far, but I’m still impressed.

“And when you find whoever’s in charge, you make them pay.” Jess Bush is a very talented actress. So it’s a real shame that this is the material she’s been given. Trek is about people overcoming things like the desire for vengeance and being better humans—about choosing to be better, in fact! Yet this nurse is advocating vigilante justice?

“Don’t let hate ruin your soul.” These are some fundamental Trek ideas! But they're coming from the “bad guy,” so I guess the writers ARE saying that “some people aren’t allowed to make up for their past”...

M’Benga violently murdering someone in flashback...yikes??

I saw a comment about how disturbing it is that SNW keeps making its two medical characters special-op types, and it’s true. McCoy might have had faults, but he honored his oath to the letter. First, do no harm. He was an empath, arguably the conscience of the show—not for nothing do fans very often portray him as the symbolic “heart”/pathos of the TOS triumvirate! Pain, suffering, and death physically sickened him. He could never have fatally stabbed someone, in a rage or otherwise. Justified or not. That’s the kind of doctor I want on my peaceful intragalactic exploratory mission. Didn’t the Rukiya subplot and its highly questionable resolution make M’Benga morally ambiguous enough???

…well, that answers that question.

There are definitely cameras on the Enterprise. Probably even in Sickbay. We know this because of common sense and because they pulled the “tape” when prosecuting Kirk in “Court Martial” and then again when Sarek confronts Kirk in Search for Spock! Christine could NOT cover up the truth here. (And while I’ve seen some people argue that the truth is ambiguous, I strenuously disagree. M’Benga murdered Rah.) Nor should she. Though she’s a traumatized war survivor like M’Benga, and Rah is a criminal from the same war, the CMO of the Federation’s flagship stabbing a (probably-unarmed) diplomat in a time of peace AND while on duty is a most definitely court martial offense. To put it mildly! Even if M’Benga was driven by his severe PTSD to react violently when Rah confronted him, he should be relieved of his duties, placed on medical leave, and treated. He should NOT continue serving on the Enterprise. This is even more severe and alarming than his rash decision regarding his daughter in Season One, and it should be the end of his Starfleet career. WHY did they write this?!!?!

Not only does no one properly investigate, Pike kind of shrugs and side-eyes M’Benga slightly before closing the case. A diplomat was killed on his ship under suspicious circumstances while alone with two people that Pike knew were struggling emotionally as a result of said diplomat’s presence… and he just takes their word for what happened and moves on?!

tl;dr They’ve ruined M’Benga. Twice. The Rukiya subplot was pretty bad, but at least his ultimate goal was for his daughter to live. This is also bad, but it makes M’Benga—a DOCTOR—a cold-blooded killer (both in war and in peacetime) in a universe that has always stood against violence and vengeance and for dialogue and reconciliation. It’s still a “war is hell, peace is the way” message, but it’s weakened by the choices made by its characters. War is bad because it irrevocably traumatizes and destroys people. Healing doesn’t exist, not even in the utopian twenty-third century with all its advanced medicine. What kind of message is that?

Thanks, I hate it.

The Good: Babs Olusanmokun and Jess Bush both give amazing performances (better than the script/character arcs deserve by far), and Robert Wisdom was also great as Rah—Spock being a supportive boyfriend! ♥—a nice allusion to TNG: Spock mentions Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War” (quoted by Riker in TNG S1)

The Bad: wildly out-of-character/unethical behavior and violence that contradicts and undermines the whole spirit of Star Trek!!! Babs’ excellent acting is undercut by an abysmal story (again)—an unnecessary war backstory for Christine so that she, too, can be Traumatized™—pointlessly sabotaging Christine and Spock’s relationship after just two three episodes* for, idk, drama?—bad Klingon makeup/prosthetics—Ortegas is a terrible officer—Pike is a terrible captain—no exploration of whether Rah was actually a changed man

I won’t comment on the war flashback scenes except to say that I don’t think they needed to be as gory or as drawn-out as they were to be effective. That’s on-brand for SNW, though.

Season 2 Pike is a completely ineffective leader who appears to command very little respect and even less authority. He really is the Sitcom Dad of captains—well-meaning, oblivious, and kind of bumbling.

Finally: I’m really confused about what motivated the writers/showrunners to pursue the Spock/Christine storyline for, what, 16-17 episodes only to now have Christine be reluctant to even call their relationship…well, a relationship. She also seems to be the one undermining said relationship. Just to refresh: in TOS, Christine was the one who admitted to being in love with Spock; who signed aboard the Enterprise out of loyalty to her missing fiance (!); who loved Spock so much that she let his consciousness be placed in hers in order to save his life. And in THIS VERY SHOW, Christine stole a shuttlecraft and engaged in interdimensional travel in order to beg some aliens to repair Spock’s broken genome!

Not only do I support Trek’s decades-long promotion of peace 110%, I also support SNW’s (apparent) goal of fleshing out the underdeveloped female characters from TOS. That said, there was no good reason to put full-blown war in Christine Chapel’s backstory! Girl was studying to be a bio-researcher and dating a professor before she became a nurse, not serving as a combat medic! If the creators wanted this show to feature original characters in the Trek universe, they could have done that—just like every other (pre-Discovery) Trek has done before them. But what they actually wanted was to use familiar names to get more views/higher ratings. So those names got assigned to characters who are still, essentially, OCs. It is endlessly frustrating to me.

But still not as frustrating as what they’ve done to M’Benga. The writers of this episode really need to watch “Conscience of the King” again. On a loop.

*I skipped 2x07 because Lower Decks is not my thing, but I know the S/C sabotage actually begins in that one. :|

EDIT: After thinking about it more and sleeping on it, I think that even if it WAS ambiguous and Rah killed himself or it was somehow self defense, M'Benga and Chapel have a moral obligation to attempt to save the life of a man with a giant knife sticking out of his chest. Instead, they both stare at him as he dies on the floor. Reprehensible behavior either way.

[rivercule]

Spock: something about Chapel who may or may not be his girlfriend at this point. idk

Uhura: “I feel the same way”

Chahura confirmed