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SNW Liveblog: S3 Teaser Trailer
because @thekenobee enjoys when I suffer (source)
âWe want to give audiences a reflection of their own world through the lens of fantasy.â Iâm not going to split hairs hereâthereâs a lot of overlap between fantasy and SF (itâs even grouped together as one all-encompassing mega-genre at my library, at leastâŚwhich I hate), and Trek has always had generous helpings of the former. But shouldnât it be science fiction (and morality play) FIRST, fantasy second?
The SNW people canât trick me into believing they care about TOS with filters, campy costumes, and TOS music when every single writing choice theyâve ever made indicates otherwise.
Um, I guess he looks a little more like TOS!Kirk now, so kudos�?
This looks like a joke. Why do they want to make their own franchise an actual joke? I mean, this looks cheesier than the SNL TOS set.
Thereâs something incredibly telling about TOS trying to look like the future, influenced of course by the culture of its own timeâitâs called retrofuturismâand SNW, made almost 60 years later and which has always been slick and modern as possible, suddenly trying to look retro for no reason (and badly at that).
Why the FUCK is there a holodeck on my twenty-third century Enterprise?!?!
Really wish I wasnât so weak for them! Watch this scene be in Episode 1, and then they break up while I put on (more) clown make up. Also: they let Spock have some chest hair! Yay!

Also, hold up: RING. GIRL HAS A RING.
I already dislike most of TNGâs holodeck episodes. Now we have the SNW crew playing live-action Clue? Jesus tapdancing Christ, yâall.
Why is he even HERE?
Pike is not beating the alcoholic allegations.
âYou know, Mr. Scott, we make a pretty good team.â This line is so blatantly fanservice-y that I want to die. And againâŚWHY IS UNDERSTUDY DISCOUNT BARGAIN BIN KIRK EVEN HERE?!??!!
Itâs interesting (not in a good way) that thereâs roughly as much of Kirk in this teaser as there is of either of Spock or of Pike. Ya know, the nominal captain/hero of this show. Remember him? Thereâs also more of Ortegas than of Uhura or of Laâan, the vastly superior characters. Choices were made.
Almost everythingâapart from the last twenty seconds, which feature a bunch of phasers, photon torpedoes, and a Gornâthat theyâve offered up from Season 3 so far is off-the-charts silly, goofy even. That seems disingenuous, even mean, since Season 2 ended on a dramatic cliffhanger with life-and-death stakesâŚover two years ago! Way to thumb their noses at their audience. (And yes, cliffhanger or not, we all know that the Enterprise and all the main characters will be fine. Thatâs not the point for me. Read the room! For heavenâs sake, they kept Leonard Nimoyâs name out of the opening credits of Search for Spock even though Iâm pretty sure every person who went to see that movie knew, in their soul, that Spock would be returning. Pretend to give a shit! Pretend to have integrity!!!)
Also interesting that there is nothing from last yearâs awful âFirst Lookâ in here.* Granted, itâs only sixty seconds long, but they chose to include plenty of other silliness!
The stakes feel super low, and thatâs disappointing. Iâm not saying I want more grimdark content like last season (I absolutely donâtâyou can go back and read what I have to say about those episodes if you want), but how about episodes that donât revolve around gags like âletâs put wired telephones on the Enterpriseâ or (apparently) âletâs dress up like 1970s caricatures to play a murder mystery game on the holodeckâ or âletâs make fun of our own source material for no reasonâ? How about pieces of social commentary that feel earnest and sincere? God knows our society needs that. This is the time for earnestness, sincerity, and for critiquing cruelty. Star Trek has never just been mindless fun. For every âThe Trouble With Tribbles,â there are three episodes like âCity on the Edge of Foreverâ! And even then, they were working with 24-episode seasons, not 10.
Besides, once they go heavy and grimdark like they did with alarming frequency in Season 2âonce they establish a monstrous supervillain species like theyâve twisted the Gorn intoâhow can they proceed to spend most of their time on pure silliness? It boggles the mind.
I canât really say much more, because there is VERY little of substance to unpack here.
My predictions:
Theyâll under-utulize Number One, as usual.
Theyâll pretend MâBenga didnât kill a diplomat in cold blood, or hand-wave it in some fashion.
Ortegas will continue to be annoying af even though the writers seem to think sheâs cool.
Everyone will make fun of/belittle Spock, given the opportunity. (This is cheating. We already know they do from the first look material.)
Scottyâs character will be ruined and made unrecognizable apart from his accent.
And Pike will continue to be everyoneâs indecisive, functioning-alcoholic Space Dad.
Oh, and despite (or maybe because of) whatâs shown in this teaser, theyâll come up with some lame-ass, paper-thin reason to break Spock and Christine up, again.
Anyway, you can bet that Iâll be suffering through every minute of this season for the sole reason of seeing Spock and Christine enjoy some much-deserved intimacy, even if itâs only a couple of scenes. Iâve come this far for them, havenât I?
I previously did a Season 3 First Look Liveblog here.
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SNW Liveblog: S3 First Look
Inflicted on me requested by @thekenobee (source)
EVERY TIME I think the hair and makeup team canât do Christine dirtierâŚthey do. What vibe are they going for here, exactly, reverse Wednesday Addams?
Remember the whole ânot fucking with peopleâs geneticsâ law thing? The one that got Number One into such hot water last season? No? Neither do the writers!
I do like Uhuraâs new look.
Are they turning intoâŚwerewolves?
What the actual fuck were they thinking?! This is so bad. Hilariously bad. The Romulan look was (intentionally) awful on Shatner, but this takes the cake. Also: why did his HAIRSTYLE change...?!?
Also, the season hasnât even started yet and theyâve already ripped off TOS again.
Everyoneâs hairstyle magically changed, actually. Why notâŚ
Some of the WORST fake eyebrows I have ever seen. My poor girl.
âI had the same problem with LSD in the 1960s.â Okay, that one made me smile a little bit. I love Pelia.
Anyway, heâs beautiful.
âWow, your ears are so pointy.â Scotty, Iâm so sorry that your character, too, will be ruined by these incompetent writersâŚ
âFour and one-half Vulcans to beam down.â Needless Cruelty to Spock: The Show. As usual. Also, why does Pike need to specify instead of saying âfive to beam downâ? (I know, I knowâitâs supposed to be funny. It isnât.)
These writers donât understand Vulcans at all. They donât have superpowers. Theyâre not magical. They canât complete some complex, dangerous mission in thirty seconds just by virtue of being Vulcan! And they arenât all inherently judgmental and/or racist just because of their genetic code???
âIt appears that we will remain Vulcans indefinitely.â Yeah, itâs almost like purposefully messing around with peopleâs genetic code is against Federation law for a REASONâŚ
Even assuming they have a good in-universe explanation for this subplot when the episode is released, itâs just a gimmick, and itâs not even one new to SNW! Did the writers turn to each other and say, âSpock becoming fully human last season was just so hilarious that we should do it again with other members of the crewâ? Itâs not original, almost none of the dialogue was funnyâand you can tell that a lot of itâs meant to be funnyâand them make-up is really quite bad.
Iâm lowering my already-low expectations.
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SNW Liveblog: âUnder the Cloak of Warâ
another installment of Grimdark Trek in which SNW tries its hand at âConscience of the Kingâ without understanding that episodeâs ethics.
or: The Wrath of MâBenga
A fantastic look for her! (Finally.)
Ortegas sucks, is judgy/borderline racist, and insubordinate. What else is new?
The choice to put war in Christine and MâBengaâs backstory still makes very little sense to me. I know Christine was underdeveloped in TOS, but this background has nothing to do with that character.
âChris needs us [at dinner].â Why, though? They both clearly have pretty bad cases of PTSD (MâBenga almost had an actual heart attack in the previous scene), whereas Pike does not. So why does he need them there, for (lack of) moral support? Christineâs dating a Vulcanâmaybe she should call MâBenga out for being illogical.
Protective boyfriend Spock!
âOur captain needs us.â This again? He needs them for what? And as CMO, MâBenga should be well aware that neither he nor Christine are medically fit to represent Pike, the Enterprise, or the Federation at large in their current emotional states.
NOT the Superpower Serum subplot coming back. It was stupid in 2x01, itâs stupid now.
Why do Klingon prosthetics/makeup look worse now than they did in the 80s? His scalp looks like itâs made out of plastic. (Which maybe it is. But that's the problem.)
Christineâs often emotionally unavailable partner is attempting to be warm/supportive/empathetic in his own way, and sheâs pushing him away. I do understand that SNW!Christine is traumatized and suffering from PTSD, which may cause her to behave in ways others see as irrationalâŚbut she was able to cope with the horrific events of âAll Those Who Wanderâ and to offer emotional support to Spock afterwards despite the likelihood that those events were probably upsetting/triggering. So her behavior here makes no sense to me. Maybe the writers hadnât thought up this backstory for her back in Season OneâŚ
âWar changes people.â But this episode isnât going to explore whether it actually changed Rah, is it? Or whether he is/can be/should be redeemed?
âHow can we represent a Federation that believes in peace if we say some people arenât allowed to make up for their past?â Wow, the writers are actually allowing Pike to be articulate AND correct? Granted that heâs been a total insensitive dumbass so far, but Iâm still impressed.
âAnd when you find whoeverâs in charge, you make them pay.â Jess Bush is a very talented actress. So itâs a real shame that this is the material sheâs been given. Trek is about people overcoming things like the desire for vengeance and being better humansâabout choosing to be better, in fact! Yet this nurse is advocating vigilante justice?
âDonât let hate ruin your soul.â These are some fundamental Trek ideas! But they're coming from the âbad guy,â so I guess the writers ARE saying that âsome people arenât allowed to make up for their pastâ...
MâBenga violently murdering someone in flashback...yikes??
I saw a comment about how disturbing it is that SNW keeps making its two medical characters special-op types, and itâs true. McCoy might have had faults, but he honored his oath to the letter. First, do no harm. He was an empath, arguably the conscience of the showânot for nothing do fans very often portray him as the symbolic âheartâ/pathos of the TOS triumvirate! Pain, suffering, and death physically sickened him. He could never have fatally stabbed someone, in a rage or otherwise. Justified or not. Thatâs the kind of doctor I want on my peaceful intragalactic exploratory mission. Didnât the Rukiya subplot and its highly questionable resolution make MâBenga morally ambiguous enough???
âŚwell, that answers that question.
There are definitely cameras on the Enterprise. Probably even in Sickbay. We know this because of common sense and because they pulled the âtapeâ when prosecuting Kirk in âCourt Martialâ and then again when Sarek confronts Kirk in Search for Spock! Christine could NOT cover up the truth here. (And while Iâve seen some people argue that the truth is ambiguous, I strenuously disagree. MâBenga murdered Rah.) Nor should she. Though sheâs a traumatized war survivor like MâBenga, and Rah is a criminal from the same war, the CMO of the Federationâs flagship stabbing a (probably-unarmed) diplomat in a time of peace AND while on duty is a most definitely court martial offense. To put it mildly! Even if MâBenga was driven by his severe PTSD to react violently when Rah confronted him, he should be relieved of his duties, placed on medical leave, and treated. He should NOT continue serving on the Enterprise. This is even more severe and alarming than his rash decision regarding his daughter in Season One, and it should be the end of his Starfleet career. WHY did they write this?!!?!
Not only does no one properly investigate, Pike kind of shrugs and side-eyes MâBenga slightly before closing the case. A diplomat was killed on his ship under suspicious circumstances while alone with two people that Pike knew were struggling emotionally as a result of said diplomatâs presence⌠and he just takes their word for what happened and moves on?!
tl;dr Theyâve ruined MâBenga. Twice. The Rukiya subplot was pretty bad, but at least his ultimate goal was for his daughter to live. This is also bad, but it makes MâBengaâa DOCTORâa cold-blooded killer (both in war and in peacetime) in a universe that has always stood against violence and vengeance and for dialogue and reconciliation. Itâs still a âwar is hell, peace is the wayâ message, but itâs weakened by the choices made by its characters. War is bad because it irrevocably traumatizes and destroys people. Healing doesnât exist, not even in the utopian twenty-third century with all its advanced medicine. What kind of message is that?
Thanks, I hate it.
The Good: Babs Olusanmokun and Jess Bush both give amazing performances (better than the script/character arcs deserve by far), and Robert Wisdom was also great as RahâSpock being a supportive boyfriend! âĽâa nice allusion to TNG: Spock mentions Sun Tzuâs âThe Art of Warâ (quoted by Riker in TNG S1)
The Bad: wildly out-of-character/unethical behavior and violence that contradicts and undermines the whole spirit of Star Trek!!! Babsâ excellent acting is undercut by an abysmal story (again)âan unnecessary war backstory for Christine so that she, too, can be Traumatizedâ˘âpointlessly sabotaging Christine and Spockâs relationship after just two three episodes* for, idk, drama?âbad Klingon makeup/prostheticsâOrtegas is a terrible officerâPike is a terrible captainâno exploration of whether Rah was actually a changed man
I wonât comment on the war flashback scenes except to say that I donât think they needed to be as gory or as drawn-out as they were to be effective. Thatâs on-brand for SNW, though.
Season 2 Pike is a completely ineffective leader who appears to command very little respect and even less authority. He really is the Sitcom Dad of captainsâwell-meaning, oblivious, and kind of bumbling.
Finally: Iâm really confused about what motivated the writers/showrunners to pursue the Spock/Christine storyline for, what, 16-17 episodes only to now have Christine be reluctant to even call their relationshipâŚwell, a relationship. She also seems to be the one undermining said relationship. Just to refresh: in TOS, Christine was the one who admitted to being in love with Spock; who signed aboard the Enterprise out of loyalty to her missing fiance (!); who loved Spock so much that she let his consciousness be placed in hers in order to save his life. And in THIS VERY SHOW, Christine stole a shuttlecraft and engaged in interdimensional travel in order to beg some aliens to repair Spockâs broken genome!
Not only do I support Trekâs decades-long promotion of peace 110%, I also support SNWâs (apparent) goal of fleshing out the underdeveloped female characters from TOS. That said, there was no good reason to put full-blown war in Christine Chapelâs backstory! Girl was studying to be a bio-researcher and dating a professor before she became a nurse, not serving as a combat medic! If the creators wanted this show to feature original characters in the Trek universe, they could have done thatâjust like every other (pre-Discovery) Trek has done before them. But what they actually wanted was to use familiar names to get more views/higher ratings. So those names got assigned to characters who are still, essentially, OCs. It is endlessly frustrating to me.
But still not as frustrating as what theyâve done to MâBenga. The writers of this episode really need to watch âConscience of the Kingâ again. On a loop.
*I skipped 2x07 because Lower Decks is not my thing, but I know the S/C sabotage actually begins in that one. :|
EDIT: After thinking about it more and sleeping on it, I think that even if it WAS ambiguous and Rah killed himself or it was somehow self defense, M'Benga and Chapel have a moral obligation to attempt to save the life of a man with a giant knife sticking out of his chest. Instead, they both stare at him as he dies on the floor. Reprehensible behavior either way.
#this one is ranty and negative and i'm sorry :\#sometimes my liveblogs are just nitpicky. this one is kind of angry.#disgusted might be a better word tbh? dismayed?#luth liveblogs snw
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Liveblog: âAll Those Who Wanderâ
In which Star Trek does Alien.
This episode should absolutely have come with warnings for flashing lights and superfluous gore/body horror.
The âendâ of Uhuraâs tenure on the Enterprise would be more meaningful in a longer season. I know itâs not realistic to hope for 22-26 episode seasons anymore, but even 13 would be better for an episodic, character-driven adventure show than just 10.
This looks bad. In fact, her hair has been getting worse all season. Rebecca Romjin is a beautiful woman, but the hair and makeup people have been doing her no favors (something Iâd argue that she has in common with her predecessor in the role, Majel Barret).
âWe are bonded now and forever by the family that is Starfleet.â Who WROTE this drivel? Iâd love to serve in Starfleet! I love its ideals! But even in TOS, it wasnât infallible and perfect and One Big Happy Family.
Is âLieutenantâ really the next rank immediately above âensignâ? Genuine question.
Absurdly tiny coffee cups!
I still want to know why theyâre always doing dishes on this ship that has technology well beyond that shown on TOS AND how/why the captain has time to do said dishes.
Laâanâs actually allowed to show some personality!
As if station wagons would still be a common point of reference in the 23rd centuryâŚ
âDo NOT make me turn this car around.â Again...these are not references that make sense in the showâs context/setting. Theyâre in the script solely to cater to a certain portion of the audience. Also, I still donât find Pikeâs âCaptain Dadâ schtick endearing, sorry.
Sensors donât reach the planets surface, yet they land the shuttlecrafts conveniently close to the ship theyâre rescuing.
âYou gotta buy him a drink.â How long has Spock been in Starfleet nowâŚat least five years? Theyâre constantly explaining Starfleet culture/traditions to him like heâs a cadet. I know heâs a Vulcan, and I know that itâs for the audienceâs benefit, but there must be some other character (Uhura being the obvious choice) who can fill that roleâŚ
And also: who keeps buying people drinks? Is this just a turn-of-phrase, or what? Theyâre certainly not paying for anything on the Enterprise, and we never saw them actually pay for anything on TOS even during shore leave.
Waitâthey took the CMO and Chapel on this mission? What if people need emergency medical attention back on the ship???
The Peregrine is built with some of the same parts as the Constitution-class ships, but itâs not the same designâso why does it look like a carbon copy of the Enterprise, and why does it have such a small crew compliment in comparison?
This is obviously going to be another Gorn episode, and I already know Iâm still going to hate it.
Iâve since read that this was prosthetic makeup, but it looks like bad CGI to me.
Theyâre really going to make Spock have an awkward expository conversation about Surak and logic with Christine in the middle of a crisis/rescue mission in the penultimate episode of the season?
MâBenga calling the little girl âmy daughterâ and then catching himself was a nice touch. He should be haunted by his decision.
I love that Christineâs hair is still perfect after everything. Peak TV show energy.
All of thisâgore and jump scares and a vicious, non-verbal alien species as the overpowered Big Badâis so anti-Trek and I hate it!!! :)
As usual, the level of technology here strains credulity (and far outstrips anything on TOS).
Kirkâs big brother is just a peach⌠McCoy and Spockâs dynamic only worked because Spock gave as good as he got and because the audience knew that Spock considered McCoy a close friend/brother. Watching Sam Kirk be an intolerant ass is just uncomfortable.
COMICAL. Seriously, this is a joke.
So the Gorn are superior (in evolutionary terms) sentient beingsâŚand also mindless, bloodthirsty lizard creatures? Sure.
Gorn-o-vision! This entire episode is impossible to take seriously.
Alluding to Spockâs sacrifice in Wrath of Khan and throwing a âlong live and prosperâ in does not make this any more like proper Trek. Speaking of WOK, Hemmerâs choice would be so much more meaningful if it were done in a similar setting (since he is, after all, the Chief EngineerâŚ) instead of this throw-away ânobleâ sacrifice of a death.
Hemmerâs death is also a reminder of how short 10-episode seasons really are, and how little development his character was really given. As badly as her character was handled, even Tasha Yar had more time to grow than Hemmer before she was killed.
âThis sucks. I hate funerals.â Ortegas and her quippy remarks being charming and funny and essential to the episode as alwaysâŚoh, wait.
HUGS!
I actually think itâs really sweet/meaningful for Christine to tell Spock that his emotions âmake you human.â Iâve seen some bad-faith interpretations of this scene assuming sheâs trying to âpush him to be more human,â but I read it as her encouraging him not to deny his inherent humanity, which heâs grown up thinking of as shameful. His humanity isnât inferior to his Vulcan nature, and he needs to accept it and embrace it if he wants to find peace.
As the child of an alcoholic, I genuinely think Pike has an alcohol problem. Heâs been shown drinking a lot in this show.
The Good: Laâan gets to show some personality (but only early on)âmoral support Spockstine hugs
The Bad: Everything else, lolâPike makes terrible tactical decisions, repeatedly, beginning with bringing cadets on the rescue mission without knowing any details about the circumstances; the most glaring was letting Laâan, whoâs barely coping with her own Gorn-related PTSD well enough to function, basically take charge after they discover that theyâre dealing with the Gornâthe way this series had handled the Gorn is laughably bad and not at all in the spirit of Trek; theyâre treated as monsters rather than sentient enemies who can potentially be reasoned/negotiated with (i.e., the Romulans)âHemmerâs death was pointless and a wasteâthey continue to do absolutely nothing with Number One as a character; why is she even on the show at this point?
Overall, this was a poorly-lit and very poorly-written episode full of jump scares, shaky-cam, flashing lights, and needless gore/death. It felt like the antithesis of everything Trek is supposed to be. Hereâs hoping the finale is better.
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SNW Liveblog: âThe Elysian Kingdomâ
This episode? Messy af. Spock in a wig? Sexy af.
The scene with MâBenga and Rukiya is precious, as alwaysâthough the subtext of it (her desire to change endings and rewrite stories more to her liking) is a little on-the-nose, considering that the writers of SNW are basically rewriting a classic television show to suit their own whims.
If Rukiya is running out of time, in theory all MâBenga has to do is stop materializing her so frequentlyâŚassuming that, while her pattern is in the transporter, sheâs not conscious/aware. If she IS, thatâs an entirely different (and horrifying) can of worms.
The exchange about superstitions between Pike and Spock is nice.
âDrinks are on me.â This is why Pikeâs crew seems so undisciplined, imo. We know that Kirk would, and did, drink with his crew. But he wasnât casually offering to buy them drinks from the captainâs chair.
��You gonna say the thing?â âHit it.â Thanks, I still hate it.
I miss TOSâs buttons and tactile controls so much. Theyâre just more visually appealing (and frankly, more practical) than touch screens.
âPerhaps you did, indeed, jinx it.â I love Spock, lmao. (Also, as someone who calls out sports announcers and coworkers for jinxing things regularlyâŚPike totally jinxed it.)
People falling out of their chairs during turbulence is a real Trek classic!
Great, MâBenga is what, hallucinating?
These kinds of zany episodes on TOS/TNG took place either on a strange planetâlike in âSquire of Gothosâ or âShore Leaveââor on the holodeck. Setting this on the Enterprise instead wasâŚwell, a choice.
Laâanâs princess costume is delightfully ridiculous and sparkly.
Itâs kind of a bummer to see that Christina Chong has real acting chops (even if âPrincess Thaliaâ is intentionally way over-the-top), but is denied the chance to do much acting thanks to how flatly her character is written.
Ethan is hot. No notes.
âMaybe I can get us out of here with the help of some powerful magic called science.â
I vastly prefer hammy/possessed Kirk to hammy/possessed Pike. Sorry âbout it. (Maybe itâs just the actors, or maybe itâs because regular Kirk comes off as so much more sincere than Pike to me?)
Why is Hemmer, an alien with inherent telepathic abilities, immune to whateverâs happening on the Enterprise, whereas Spock, an alien (well, half-alien) with inherent telepathic abilities, succumbed to it? I can hand-wave most plot holesâŚthis oneâs just lazy writing, though.
Worth it? Worth it.
I would watch THIS show.
âTruthfully, I should have known it as wellâŚsince thatâs what he does in the book.â
âDonât beat yourself up about it.â
âThereâs no such place, my queen, heâs bluffing.â
All those lines were funny and delivered well!
Even though classic tricorders look pretty out-of-place on this redesigned Enterprise, I still love seeing them.
The resolution of the Rukiya subplot reminds me a lot of the end of The Motion Picture.
The moral quandry of it is enormous, way bigger than âstoring your daughterâs biological pattern in the transporter to keep her alive,â which raises plenty of ethical questions of its own. MâBenga tells Rukiya that âitâs up to youââbut how can such a young child make such a huge decision: to exist in space as a disembodied consciousness for an infinite amount of time or to wait in stasis for a cure for her human body?! Itâs uncomfortably reminiscent of the ���willingâ sacrifice made by the little boy in Episode 6âŚnot really the comparison you want viewers to be drawing, given how that one ended. Children that age canât give meaningful consent.
Besides, what does MâBenga know about this entity? How do either of them know that they can trust it? Itâs been using the Enterprise as a dollhouse for hours out of boredom/loneliness! What might it do to Rukiyaâs energy? And how will becoming said disembodied consciousness impact a nine- or ten-year-old human girl? There are actually a number of great science fiction (horror) stories about this, the premise being that human minds are ill-equipped for that kind of existence. For all MâBenga knows, he could find the cure next week. It was teased in Episode 6. All he needs to do is keep Rukiya safely the transporterâwhich really shouldnât be a problem unless she is, in fact, conscious in there. But the writers obviously just wanted to wrap this problematic subplot up and move on.
A grown-up version of Rukiya appears to comfort MâBenga and tell him about her many âadventures,â because it turns out time exists differently for her now even though itâs been ~30 seconds of real timeâŚ? It cheapens the scene before and makes me feel belittled as a viewer. Iâm okay with feeling uneasy about MâBengaâs choice! Iâm not okay with being cajoled into thinking that it was the correct choice. When Kirk let Edith Keeler die, her ghost didnât reappear to assure him that she understood why he had to! Heâand by extension, the audienceâjust had to live with it.
âSheâs safe.â He doesnât and canât know that for certain. He let an alien consciousness he neither studied/analyzed nor communicated directly with spirit his daughter away after two minutes of deliberation! Anything could be happening to her out there. Though, to be totally fair, sheâs not going to die, soâŚthereâs that?
So yes: this episode is messy. I rewatched it after seeing the ending and reading a lot of reviews/commentary and actually revised this liveblog. Itâs not as bad as I initially thought! However, Iâve come to think that the Rukiya subplot itself was a poor choice, one full of troubling implications, dubious decision-making, and questionable ethics. I understand why the writers scrambled to get rid of it. And conveptually, this episode wasnât even a bad send-off for Rukiya! The execution was just lacking. It couldâve been so much more.
But heyâŚat least we got Laâanâs princess dress, Uhuraâs evil queen ensemble, and Spock in that wig.
The Good: Gorgeous costumesâthe actress playing Rukiya was a delight; Iâll miss herâSpock in generalâsome very funny lines/deliveryâChristina Chong gets to act!
The Bad: The writing, pacing, set design, and some of the acting was all pretty clumsyâfor an episode that turned so heavy, the campy fairy tale stuff was too light and took up too much time. Too much of Ortegas and Pike; not enough of Laâan and Spock. (I think thereâs too much Ortegas on the show, period. She just doesnât work for me. No judgment towards other people who may feel differently.) Some truly WTF parenting choices made by MâBengaâhuge unresolved questions/plot holes by the end.
But the beauty of SNW returning to Trekâs episodic roots is that itâs a standalone episode. Hoping for better (and more Spockstine!) in the next installment.
#luth liveblogs snw#this one is LONG and rambly so on the off chance anyone even reads these: youâve been warned
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SNW Liveblog Snark: âHegemonyâ
here it is at last, my final slog through snw that no one asked for!
Iâll never forgive this show for introducing Roger Korby for no reason. but ig I shouldnât be surprised: they also made TâPring a legitimate âlove interestâ for Spock since the first episodeâŚ
beaming up looked more ârealisticâ in the 60s than it does on the very high-budget snwâŚ
why is there a delta slapped onto every single object on the Enterprise? is the Federation, in fact, a giant corporation that needs to brand itself?
how many times can these writers go back to the Gorn??? there are only 20 episodes, and the Gorn have already been the Big Bad in like four of them. (the fact that thereâs a Big Bad at all is its own problem, imo.)
âsometimes a monster is just a monster.â no, bad. please go watch some TOS.
the Big Bad Gorn have what are essentially magical powers that counteract almost all the Enterpriseâs techâŚbecause the plot requires them to ig!
this is the âcommandâ crew?? even the CMOâŚ? funny how only two of them are wearing command gold.
Iâm nitpicking with thisâI understand that thereâs some overlap in starship roles, so TOS!Spock can be both the head of the science division and the first officer. nevertheless⌠âcommandâ is its own distinct division in this showâs universe!
and sure, Bones spent way too much time on the Bridge, but it was never implied he was in a âcommandâ position. he had also never stabbed an ambassadorâin Sickbay AND while on dutyâinâself defenseâ or otherwise, but I digressâŚ
Pike: I need volunteers Spock, Uhura, and Number One: we volunteer! Pike: no, not you
someone please just write Sam Kirk out of the show already
why would anyone be surprised that Spock has never seen a zombie movie? (I mean, has Spock seen any movies? are movies even still a widespread form of entertainment in this universe�?)
this show does not deserve her
everything about the Gorn subplot is, as always, pessimistic and dark and deeply un-Trek-like. slaughtering baby aliens, however dangerous they are, also just feelsâŚgross.
Pike actually manages to half-ass a line that sounds like actual Trek philosophy (instead of murdering these creatures we donât understand, maybe we should learn more about them!) even though it contradicts what he said earlier in the episode about monsters.
please donât be Scotty. please donât be Scotty.
oh, for fuckâs sake.
alsoâŚif weâre still pretending that this is a direct prequel to TOS, Spock, Uhura, and Scotty have all had experience with the Gorn before the events of âArena,â yet none of them mention that while theyâre together on the Bridge watching their captain battle the Gorn captain to the deathâŚ???
Pikeâs girlfriend is alive, which is fine, but that also means more screentime will be wasted on their subplot⌠this show didnât need any more new-old characters (Scotty?!), and trimming some of its peripheral characters (Batel, Sam Kirk, etc.) to focus on its core cast wouldnât have hurt.
[unconfirmed theory about the Gorn] âif thatâs trueââ well, itâs pretty big IF, right?
â[Christine] beamed back to the Cayuga.â âGonna be honest, that is not great news.â wow, stellar dialogue.
Iâm glad Spock still has his box oâ blue light, even on this nightclub nightmare of a BridgeâŚ
they really cast this stunningly beautiful woman just so they could totally waste her. it boggles the mind!
âPlacing those rockets is a near-impossible task. No human can do this. I, however, can.â/ âI am the only member of the crew who can pull this off. If it is to succeed, it must be me.â everybody loves Spock, but why canât a human do this whereas a half-human half-Vulcan canâŚ? explain please??? (they wonât.)
there are so many âwittyâ dialogue exchanges on this show, but theyâre so rarely actually funny or charming that they usually end up being cringey and/or tonally dissonant wastes of time instead of effective comic relief. (here, Scotty apologizes for eavesdropping but says it âwasnât my fault you decided to have a secret conversation in front of my sleeping spotââŚdid none of these scripts have an editor??)
Christine is alive? Iâm shocked!
thereâs no feasible way anyone on the damaged ship lived. even in the surviving structure, theyâd be directly exposed to, wellâŚspace. but at the same time, no one watching believed Christine was dead, right?
and if Christine has been there, alive, the whole time, is she (as a nurse) not going to see if anyone else might also have survived??
Christine managed to restore limited power/life support to one area of the ship despite the massive level of destruction, and then the best way she can think to communicate with the Enterprise and Spock is viaâŚflashlight?!?
but WHO couldâve predicted there would be Gornlings on Scottyâs abandoned shuttle in a town thatâs been overrun with Gornâoh.
âthat thing chose not to attack?â maybe itâs not a thing at all, Pike. or (more likely for this show) maybe Batelâs already a host for Gorn eggs and therefore not a target.
why is Spockâs task somehow impossible for a human? I still want to knowâŚ
lmao, nice tryâŚif anyone has plot armor, itâs Spock.
so this is an adult Gorn? (itâs wearing a space suit.) yet it makes no attempt to communicate in any wayâŚwhich suggests to me that SNW is not going to gradually transform the Gorn into nuanced/compelling antagonists the way people have predicted. hatchling or adult, theyâre just the SNW equivalent of xenomorphs.
you know when you shouldnât turn slowly around with your weapon for dramatic effect? when your boyfriend is about to be murdered by a bloodthirsty alien!!!
here for any Spockstine I can get. this is still ridiculous, tho.
also, that is not how physics works!
Uhura and Number One grinning at each other when Spock says âtwo to beam upâ like they somehow know Christine is one of the twoâŚthe single survivor of that shipwreck couldâve been literally anyone (and no one even thought to check for survivors in the first place)! just because the audience knows information doesnât mean the characters automatically do, too. dramatic irony is a thing?
brb starting a gofundme to send these writers to a Literature 101 course.
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can you beam that many people up at once? and shouldnât the bioscanners be able to filter out or at least detect Batelâs Gorn infectionâŚ?
thereâs no way Montgomery âover the moon about being confined to quarters with his technical journalsâ Scott received bad grades at the Academy. whatever. heâs quirky now or something.
she should be the captain of her own ship on her own show. that is all.
as usual this season, Pike is indecisive when it matters most and seems borderline incompetent. this is precisely the kind of no-win scenario that Starfleet officers are supposed to be able to handle.
and ending the season on a cliffhanger is pretty lame. but then so is the entire Gorn subplot.
well, this one was a mess in a misleadingly straightforward package, and itâs not even technically over. a two-year cliffhangerâŚtough sell.
this is SNWâs second or third trek-does-horror episode in a complement of only twenty. thatâs not great. the writing isnât, either; plot points are predictable, dialogue is cringe, and a great deal of the action seems to rely heavily on circumstance and/or luck (Scotty and his tech skills being on the planet, Christine being alive/finding Spock, etc.) but worse, this isnât any kind of morality play. by their own admission, itâs a zombie movie. and itâs not even a good one.
The Good: a crumb of Spock/Christine content after this very show spent the last three episodes torpedoing that shipâRebecca Romijn is gorgeous and gets to do something, if only for 5 minutesâScotty is well-cast (much better so than Paul Wesleyâs Kirk).
The Bad: the Gorn being horror villains (again) violates everything Trek is supposed to be aboutâbad/nonsensical science everywhereâone of the weakest/most out-of-character Spock outings to date (and I donât mind him being upset/grieving Christine, but the writing for him was not good this week)âintroducing yet another TOS character on âPikeâsâ showâspeaking ofâŚPikeâs overall behavior and decision-making (or lack thereof)âno one on the Enterprise checking for survivors, broken scanners/sensors be damned, in the wreckage before they planned to destroy it.
I say it every time, but at this point, Iâm not expecting anything more or better from season 3 on. But I do hope Spock and Christine get to smooch a few more times.
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SNW Liveblog: âCharadesâ
In which Ethan Peck gets to have some fun, the writers also prove they know nothing about Vulcans, and the last fifteen minutes redeems the whole episode.
What exactly is âsub-impulse speedâ?

God dammit.
The fellowship only lasts for two months? Whatâs even the point?
I hate to complain about a female character working out on-screenâlife in space would definitely necessitate some kind of exercise regime! For everyone!âbut at what point in her TOS appearances did Christine Chapel strike these writers as the type of girl who spent a lot of time beating on the Enterpriseâs punching bag? Maybe if we hadnât just seen Laâan in this exact same scene two episodes agoâŚ
ThisâŚthis outfit is almost mod! Earrings and all! Iâm shocked. Give it some color and youâd be onto something.
In fact, all three girls (Laâan, Christine, and Ortegas) are wearing black here. Why do SNW the costume designers HATE fun?
âOh, things are kind of weird between them.â I donât use this word lightly, but between her being mean to Spock for no reason last week and now casually betraying her friendâs confidence like this with a little smirk (while Christine is visibly uncomfortable): Ortegas is just a bitch.
Do Vulcans consider their emotions to be âsuppressedâ? And would MâBenga, Vulcan expert or not, really be able to teach the native Vulcan how to better control his emotions (when heâs been learning that his whole life)??? Do they ever think before writing, orâŚ?
Or: canon only matters when the SNW writers want it to.
âMy mother felt this would be best.â A lot of Vulcans on this show throw that verb around awfully lightly. Itâs almost like the writers donât understand Vulcans.
If TâPringâs mother doesnât approve, why were they ever engaged in the first place? (I know that this showâs never going to acknowledge that they were betrothed as kids for an arranged marriage. But thatâs the canon.)
Bitch, please.
A sweet reversal of her sneaking a glance at him in the Turbolift earlier.
Them.
Spock, please donât look at your girlfriend when youâre supposed to be steering the shuttle away from the ârupture in space-timeâ.
Oh, his hair is so much better this way.
Why is everyone calling Uhura âNyotaâ all of a sudden? I get that sheâs just an ensign, but itâs weird.
This sounds like a casual phone call rather than the first contact between the Federation and an unknown species. Up the professionalism a few notches, Pike.
He does not.
âMixed instructions? You donât mean Spock.â Iâm no scientist, but itâs obvious theyâre talking about his DNAâkeep up, Mr. Starship Captain!
âUhura, get âem back.â Maybe if Pike hadnât stumbled over his words and had gotten straight to the damn point, this wouldnât be a problem! Kirk and Picard would both have said, âExcuse me, but the way you âfixedâ my science officer was not correctâ rather than mumbling and stuttering until the call cut off.
He is adorable. You can pry human!Ethan!Spock out of my cold, dead hands.
âMy fianceeâs mother? She hates me.â My fiancee? She hates me. Fixed that for you!
âIâve already spoken to TâPring and to your family.â That is really crossing a line! KirkâSpockâs undisputed best friend of all time/brother/soulmate/true love (however you see them)âdidnât know about TâPring or even that the Vulcan ambassador and his wife who were coming aboard were Spockâs parents until he met them on the Enterprise. But Pike is just casually contacting Sarek, Amanda, and TâPring without consulting Spock first?! Itâs not like heâs in a coma! He could easily have waited and let Spock tell his family himself. Accidents happen in Starfleet all the time. Itâs a dangerous job.
Spock always seems to be played by men with the best smiles. âĽ
Not Spock drinking alcohol and eating meat! Heâs going to feel awful about that when his genetic code is âfixedâ! (His dietary habits are cultural, not biologicalâwhy would he want to change them with or without his Vulcan DNA?)
If this was a TOS episode, Bridge crew would still be working on getting back in touch with the aliens who did this to SpockâŚbut we have to show Spock enjoying some crispy bacon instead.
Again, I think control is a better choice of words.
âYou just need to work on impulse control.â I donât think taking his Vulcan DNA away would invalidate/negate his years of intensive mental training. He had to work extra hard as a mixed-race child to be a ârealâ Vulcan, so in theory he should still have access to about emotional control. If not, he should have been stripped of his memories of childhood and whatnot, too.
Spockâs sass is coming out so strongly in this script, which is great, but he should always be sassy! (âGentlemen, I am in command of this vessel, and we shall continue on our present courseâŚunless it is your intention to declare a mutiny.â)
Iâm sure Christine enjoys seeing a more demonstrative version of the man she loves, BUT I hope they also show that sheâs mourning the loss of the true Spock. Sheâs one of the few who really sees him for what he isâhalf Vulcan, half human, wholly himself.
To culminate his total lack of respect for Spockâs privacy/boundaries, Pike announces that his mom is on board in the middle of a busy hallway.
This Amanda is a babe (though thereâs no way sheâs old enough to be Ethan Peckâs mom).
I love this nod to the classic âSpock wearing a funny hat to hide his earsâ trope.
Could they not get a costume to fit this actress? Not shaming her at allâIâm intimately familiar with the struggle of finding clothes that look flattering with a larger chest! But this ainât it.
Why is Pike even still here? At this point, Amandaâs business is with her son. Pike can butt out.
âThe engagement dinner has been moved several times due to your Starfleet schedule, a fact which they are not understanding aboutââ A few issues here: a) It seems, well, illogical that a family of Vulcans refuses to understand why Spockâs professional schedule would postpone personal obligations; b) this is the first time weâve ever heard about this engagement dinner, 15 episodes into the season. That wouldnât be an issue if (as in TOS) TâPring had just been introducedâbut sheâs now been in numerous episodes including the pilot. Yet somehow this has never come up before?
Also, bold of this show to expect me to care that their engagement might get broken when theyâve already faked the audience out about that once and when I know TâPringâs ultimately going to dump Spock anywayâŚ
Incompetence.
So TâPringâs family disapproves of Spockâs career (and we know from previous episodes that TâPring isnât thrilled about it, either), but they agree to hold this traditional and (apparently) super-important engagement dinner on the starship where Spock works?
I donât think âSpock, youâre humanâ would be a human motherâs natural first reaction here. Idk. I know Amandaâs been on Vulcan a long time, but we know sheâs still very warm, very human, and seeing her son so changed would have to be shocking/upsetting/concerning, right?
âI couldnât even fool you.â Thatâs kind of funny.
First of all: Spock can lie with the best of them. Secondly, I donât think you can learn to be a genuinely good liar in a few hours. Finally (and again): his years of Vulcan discipline/training shouldnât have been erased (he obviously still has all his memories and knowledge), so he shouldnât have to lie at all.
Seriously, Spock doesnât have amnesia! He was raised by Vulcansâhe knows how they speak!!!
Okay, butâŚSpock canât perform the mind meld, and Amanda would know that. I feel like she should be saying, âMy son was in a serious accident and is in no state to socializeâ but then someone elseâmaybe even Sarekâoverrules her. That would still leaves plenty of room for drama.
Just contact the aliens for help! Iâm begging you! This is Star Trek!!!
âWe canât do it, but we already know who canâ Thank God someone on this show can keep up.
I kind of hate her. :) At least she didnât make a snarky comment, too.
I am weak (even if this is the least-flattering Vulcan look I have ever seen on any version of Spock).
TâPring has some funny lines re: her difficult relationship with her mother, and I guess itâs a nice parallel to Spockâs difficult relationship with Sarek. I can sympathize with her, but I refuse to like her.
Thereâs no way a conservative Vulcan couple would be satisfied with a human preparing the traditional food for their daughterâs engagement dinner.
The majority of Vulcans in this show continue to look like a parody.
TâPringâs dad being a foodie is funny. Him being obviously subservient to his scary bully of a wife is unoriginal and not so funny.
They stole a shuttlecraft and no one even alerts the captain?
Christine being willing to do anything for Spock: canon in every universe. âĽ
I get that theyâre in âinterdimensional spaceâ and in a state of semi-shock as a result (understandably!), but why can no one communicate effectively in this episode, including Uhura of all people???
Christineâs straight-talk with the aliens is just making me angry that Pike didnât speak up about their mistake when he was communicating with them earlier.
Sheâs stunning.
Spock being protective of/afraid for Christine is precious.
âDuring the accident, the other being diverted the shields away from himself to protect you.â Even though Iâm unsure how that would work (isnât the shield around the entire shuttlecraft?)âthat is SO Spock and so adorable.
âAre you so obtuse that you donât even see that [you have feelings for Spock]?â Itâs always one step forward, three steps back with OrtegasâŚ
The writers were kind enough to grant my wish: Christine acknowledges that a wholly human Spock isnât really Spock at all. The writing is less than phenomenal, but Jess Bush really sells it anyway, and it alludes nicely to Christineâs heartfelt confession of love in âThe Naked Timeâ about seeing Spock as being greater than the sum of his genetic parts.
Iâm tearing up.
The scene where Spock tells TâPringâs mother off and praises his own isnât super believable/in-character, but itâs satisfying!
Once again: the Vulcans on this show use that word way too muchâŚ
They really have wanted TâPring to always be the victim/wronged party in this relationship ever since the first episode. But why?! Sheâs going to leave him! In canon, she makes him fight his own best friend to the death to have her when she doesnât even want him! No matter how they resolve the relationship in this show, itâs all drama I donât care about!!!
TâPringâs mother was overtly racist towards Amanda and Spock during the entire dinner; she doesnât approve of him; and she told him that he deserved to be disowned by Sarek/didnât deserve to marry TâPring. She would probably continue behaving that way towards him for the rest of her life. But after he endured all of that for her sake and after she repeatedly warned him not to mess the dinner up, TâPring expresses neither concern for Spockâs ordeal nor relief that heâs been healed/that the dinner was a success nor gratitude for what he put himself through. She expresses only disappointment that he didnât confide in her.
Crying in the club.
Thereâs a lovely reciprocity to Spock and Christineâs dynamic so farâhe kissed her in Season One; this time, she kisses him. He risked his life to save her earlier; then she goes back and risks hers to make him whole again. I know these writers are going to screw it up eventually, so Iâll enjoy it while it lasts.
Overall, this episode was way too long (a full hour!) and was bogged down with a bunch of nonsense in the middle in the name of comedy. Its dialogue in particular was just as poorly-written as most SNW scripts have been (i.e., âyou look constipated,â âyou messed him up,â numerous crew members mumbling and stuttering in the heat of the momentâŚthese arenât Starfleet professionals, theyâre high schoolers!) BUT there was an extra helping of heart in this episode. Between Amanda Graysonâs tenderness towards her son, Spockâs protectiveness towards Christine, and Christineâs fierce loyalty towards Spock, I almost cried more than once. And since Spock/Christine is THE reason I started watching this show in the first place, itâs nice to finally see some payoff fifteen episodes in!
The Good: Ethanâs face without Vulcan make-up + his gorgeous smile!âa surprise Amanda cameoâSpock and Christine mutually being protective of each other/risking their lives for each otherâsome funny momentsâJess and Ethan both acting their socks offâreally cool visuals during the âinterdimensional spaceâ sceneâa few excellent costume designsâfinally, the big kiss!
The Bad: Childish/unprofessional dialogue throughoutâOrtegas being a bitch even to her friendsâwriting human!Spock like a teenager who forgot everything he knows about being Vulcan (even though his memories are in tact)âPikeâs total incompetenceâname-dropping Roger Korby (ugh)
I canât wait to see how this show is going to disappointment me in the Spockstine department going forward.
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SNW Liveblog: âAmong the Lotus Eatersâ
In which theyâre mean to Spock for no reason, but Spock helps save the day anyway.
In its own way, this is scene just as staged/cheesy as anything in TOSâŚitâs also giving NBC Hannibal (not a compliment from me).
Look: I just donât care about the supposedly corrupt bureaucracy and chain of command in Starfleet. When I watch Trek, I want to escape into a post-scarcity utopian society, and nuTrek can pry that out of my cold, dead hands!!!
Other things I donât care about: Pikeâs on-again, off-again relationship with Batel. Sorry. This show already has too many characters vying for screentime with too few episodes to develop them to be wasting time on this.
Love that Pike makes sure to put out the candles before he leavesâŚmeanwhile his quarters has a huge, open fireplace that burns 24/7.
Not that everything they do on the Enterprise isnât science-related, but⌠âscience specialistâ? Do you guys even WATCH the show??? Gold is for the command division, red is for operations/engineering, and BLUE IS FOR SCIENCE! At least pretend to give a shit about your showâs own universe. (OhâŚwaitâŚ)
âMost of the time I fly the ship, which is cool, but can get boring.â Speaking for all the kids (and adults!) who have fantasized about flying the Enterprise for the last 55 years: kindly fuck off.
âCanât you just say âtwo moonsâ?â / âWe get it, Spock.â Spock is the science officer (and ALSO Vulcan). Get off his back!!! His SNW crewmates nitpick him worse than Bones ever did.
I donât like Ortegas muchâsheâs still written like garbage, no fault of the actorâand her perpetual bitchiness towards Spock is NOT helping.
âDoctors love being tasked for a mission because of their combat skills.â Maybe you shouldâve thought of that three episodes ago when you were LARPing Wolverine in slo-mo against the Klingons for like ten minutes, MâBengaâŚ
This line might have been okay by itselfâMcCoy-esque, if you willâexcept theyâve been giving Spock shit for Doing His Damn Job for the entire episode so far.
I love Christine, and SNW!Christine has grown on me, butâŚsheâs not even the Head Nurse on this show. Why is she running Sickbay solo? Am I supposed to believe that the Enterprise doesnât staff more than a single doctor??
âAs long as it stays isolated to Uhuraâ Since they donât know the cause and therefore whether the condition is infectious, shouldnât they at least isolate Uhura? (They experienced a similar outbreak just a few episodes ago!!!)
Speaking of Uhura, seems pretty shitty of the writers to have Uhura be the first one to lose her memory: TOS already did that. (If itâs an homage, itâs not a good one.)
I adore Ethan, but sometimes his line delivery is weirdly stilted.
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Thereâs literally no one else left on the Bridge apart from Spock and Ortegas? OkayâŚ
âItâs not the Spock show!â but it should be.
Whateverâs affecting the rest of the crew should affect Spock differently and/or belatedly due to his different genetic code. Then again, the only thing these writers seem to know about Vulcans is that they talk about logic a lot.
Not the computer having a ghost-of-Mufasa moment with Ortegas⌠(âRemember who you are.â)
âI feel like I know how to do this. And Iâm the only one who can.â * Put a pin in this.
âAbso-frigginâ-lutely.â Awful.
I didnât think you can block a phaser blast with like...a physical shield?? Especially one (presumably) set to kill???
Kirk was involved in a lot of fights, but watching the captain of the Enterprise repeatedly kick/pistol-whip a guy whoâs already laying prone on the ground isâŚsurreal and horrible.
Trekâs always been two parts morality play, one part scifi, but can I get the scientific part of the reveal again? Something about radiation from an asteroid?? It sounds kind of interestingâbut theyâre just gonna gloss over it, arenât they??
Also, the Enterprise is designed to protect its crew against all kinds of radiationâwe know that because it was built to fly in SPACE, which is radioactive as fuck. So whatâs special about these asteroids (and if the planetâs atmosphere is too thick to be penetrated by the Enterpriseâs scanners, why canât it protect the planet from the radiation coming off the asteroids that surround it)??
Please stop showing Pike punching this guy over and over again. Itâs actually upsetting, I canât see the point, if there is one.
Pike: â[Rigel VII] shows us who we really areâŚâ Pike 30 seconds earlier: kicking and punching an unarmed man whoâs sprawled out, bleeding, on the floor Pike: âThe lives of my crew mean everything to me.â
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LookâŚTOS could be really unsubtle and on-the-nose about its messaging. It still did it with so much more grace and flair than THIS. âHe was right. Not having a pastâŚit can be nice for a while.â âI know what you mean. But maybe some memories are worth the pain of others.â / âThe story of your life, the detailsâŚthey matter!â Wow, what do you guys think is this episode trying to say?!?
*âNo one but you could pull this off.â In âMirror Mirror,â a visibly nervous Uhura hesitates after Kirk issues his orders; he then reassures her by earnestly saying âYouâre the only one who can do it.â Itâs meaningful because itâs trueâUhura is the only one both with the necessary skills and whom Kirk can trust in the mirror universe. Here, itâs just Pike stroking the ego of an officer whoâs already an arrogant smartassâŚplus, while Ortegas might be the best pilot on board, the episode repeatedly makes it clear that she is NOT the only one qualified to âfly the ship.â
âI donât blame Spock. Heâs still got a lot to learn.â Why the fuck would anyone blame Spock for anything that went down here?!! The man was trying to analyze the asteroidsâthe very same ones that robbed everyone of their memoriesâat the beginning of the episode when everyone was rolling their eyes and saying ânot now, Spock,â and look where it fucking got them!
And in the very next line, we learn that Spock came up with the solution that SAVED THE SHIP/CREW.
âIt feels logical to me.â This is the kind of shit yâall should be angry about re: Spock, not him smooching Christine. It FEELS logical. Retch.
I know I sound really critical here, but I actually found this one a lot easier to watch (almost) straight-through than some of the previous episodes, i.e., without having to stop and scream in frustration. It was less mundane and plodding than the previous one (and left SNW!Kirk behind, thank God). That said, I did find myself tempted to fast-forward through some of the scenes on Rigel VII, and I did skip around during the Pike/Batel scenes. I also saw a lot of comments that this episode is very TOS...I guess so? Imo the resemblance is surface-level only, though.
The Good: Hey, they're on a STRANGE NEW-(to-the-viewer) WORLD! Imagine that! â La'an's costume and the way she's styled for the away mission. â Boring subplot aside, Batel also looks really nice. â The vibe, planetside, is trying to be like TOS. Gold star for effort? â A few funny lines. â Ethan gets a lot of flattering shots in this episode. :3
The Bad: A lot of time wasted between Ortegas' repeated âI fly the shipâ mantra (both early and later on) and the Pike/Batel scenes that bookend the episode. â Almost everyone being critical of what Spock says and how he says it; it borders on unprofessional and mean and is ESPECIALLY bad since Spock then uses science to restore their memories (off-screen, of course). â Making Uhura the first one to get amnesia. â Failing to develop Ortegas at all in what I assume is supposed to be an âOrtegas episode.â â Christine's hair. My poor girl! â Spock forgets how to READ?!?? (I missed this while I was watching because it's just Too Stupid for me to believe they actually went there.) â Gratuitous violence from Pike that seemed to serve no thematic or symbolic purpose.
There better be Spockstine in the next one, because without it, Ethanâs face is still worth itâŚbarely, though.
#i think i had more to say but then I just ran out of steam lol#this episode was better than the kirk one ('kirk'... ''''kirk''''...)#but idk not by a huge margin#luth liveblogs snw
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I only made it halfway through snw 2x03 and I already have SO many questions...
how can spock exist in a universe where the federation doesn't exist/vulcans and humans aren't allied with each other? (i.e., how did sarek and amanda hook up in this universe?)
why does the "united earth fleet" enterprise and its uniforms look the same as those of the federation/starfleet? and why is all the technology exactly the same?*
how does kirk intuitively know how to use paper money, and how much of it, despite never having done so before? (this may seem extra pedantic, but even just him confusing which bills to use, or asking the vendor how much a hot dog costs, would've gone a long way imo. also, boy can't make sense of a basic revolving door, soooo...)
how did kirk make enough money off of a few games of chess to put them up in a very spacious, swanky hotel?
how does kirk learn how to drive a 21st century car like a professional (in snowy conditions!) after about 2.5 minutes behind the wheel?
also, how can kirk zip around toronto like a native, a city he's admitted to never having visited before in his own time, much less as it was 200 years before his birth?
how do kirk and la'an get from toronto to vermont in between scenes with limited money and without any kind of i.d. (much less passports)??? they don't exactly have a transporter!
*I know this is a conceit in mirror episodes, but it's established that kirk's timeline/universe is radically different from la'an'sâboth endured catastrophic wars, but idk...I feel like a society whose home planet was rendered all but uninhabitable would have difficulty matching the technological pace of a society whose home planet was not. plus la'an's society had vulcans close at hand to help. and their aesthetics/designs would definitely be different.
again...I SO wish I could turn off my brain and enjoy this show. but I just can't.
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small thing: I hate these skinny pants, y'all. the flared pants were part of the glorious retrofuturistic aesthetic of TOS and went hand-in-hand with the boots and primary-color uniforms! these uniforms are so sterile and boring in comparison, and I don't think tapered trousers are any more likely to be fashionable in the 23rd century than flared ones.
but tragically, they've sucked every ounce of TOS's mod style out of the Enterprise and her crew, so this change is really no surprise.
#i'm sad. i love the vivid colors and cheesy but visually appealing 60s vibe of tos so much#:(#luth liveblogs snw
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Are they at the club? Why does it look like this??? The design of the Bridge is actually okay, but who decided it should look like a rave???? IMAGINE trying to work in that space. Give them some overhead lighting!
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SNW Liveblog Stray Observations: âLost in Translationâ
Iâm going out on a limb to say that this episode is one of the best SNW has ever done. ButâŚ
I just like to look at him.
âŚthatâs not saying a lot, and it wouldâve been much better without their bland, store-brand version of Jim Kirk.
âItâs the shiniest gas station Iâve ever seen.â Presumably Ortegas has never seen a gas station, since itâs the 23rd centuryâŚ
I should be so excited to see my favorite character of the entire franchiseâbut every time Paul!Kirk shows up, I just feelâŚapathetic.
Do we need a pointless rivalry between the Kirk brothers? And since when does Jim Kirkââin his class you think or you sink,â âa stack of books with legs,â âabsolutely grim [as a cadet],â whose two best friends/soul mates are a scientist and a doctor, respectivelyâseem like the kind of guy who would disparage someone (much less his own brother!) for âwallowing in a science labâ?!
I think itâs cute that Spock wants to tell Starfleet that heâs fraternizing with his colleague, because it shows that heâs serious about their relationship! But of course we have to have drama one episode into said relationship insteadâŚ
Blood and body horror for shock value. On-brand for this show.
Even Uhura, a mere ensign, has huge quarters. They look as big as Spockâs (a lieutenant) and the first officerâs!
âIâm the communications officer.â Sorry, Ensign Uhura is the communications officer? Since when?? Technically, ensigns are officersâbut afaik no Trek character ranked lower than lieutenant has ever been at the head of an entire section/division. For obvious reasons.
SNW has a huge budget, but zero extras. This Enterprise always feels like itâs got a crew compliment of maybe 20, not 200+.
An extremely bad CG body flying through space is not what I expected from this show, butâŚ
âYouâre like a space hippie.â Again with the twentieth-century language/referencesâŚ
This is fairly classic Trek/scifi fare. Iâm okay with it.
Not such a fan of the rushed climax and resolution, thoughâPike acts without consulting his science officer or, indeed, any member of the science division at all. Itâs not that Uhuraâs untrustworthy! But as far as he knows, sheâs on medical leave for exhaustion so severe itâs causing her to hallucinate. He nevertheless agrees to demolish a huge new processing plant for a resource vital to spaceflight immediately and on her word alone.
A totally shoehorned-in meet-cute for Kirk and Spock. I have mixed feelings.
This episode was fine. Serviceableâwhich I think is the highest praise Iâm ever going to have for SNW. Thereâs plenty of nonsense (references to gas stations, hostility between the Kirk brothers/the canon-defying implication that their parents are alive, Uhura somehow being communications officer as an ensign, Pike consulting exactly 0 members of his science team about a scientific matter), but it was still fine. It had some nice imagery and a classic Trek moral. It even almost remembered that Number One is supposed to be a main character.
Good: a decent Spockstine sceneâa pretty nebulaâNumber One actually gets some screentimeâa reminder that Kirk is better at chess than Spockâa solid, if unoriginal, scifi story*âUhuraâs always good, and some Uhura/Kirk? I wasnât expecting it, but Iâll take it (even if Kirk leaves a lot to be desired)!âI kind of like Pelia, sorry
Bad: some dialogueâs still cringeâpointless gore/scary imageryâKirk family dramaâPike being sidelined AND being bad at his jobâPaul Wesleyâs Kirk overall (performance, characterization, and him being there at all)**
*As usual, even for a solid SNW episode, TOS did it better (âThe Devil in the Darkâ).
**Kirkâs not needed here! Literally any other member of the main cast couldâve served the same narrative purpose (the much-neglected Number One seems like a good choice, or Christine, or even MâBenga) with no loss to the episode as a whole. Theyâve now made him central in two episodes of whatâs supposed to be Pikeâs show, though they donât seem to know how to write Pike effectively, either, since he now spends more time in the kitchen than the captainâs chair. They also have no idea how to write Kirkâthe writers are leaning way too heavily on the pop culture version of Kirk, the cocky âcool guyâ AOS Kirk. (âRecords are made to be broken,â really?) They need to go back and watch some episodes of TOS!
So, yeah. Itâs fine when it couldâve been good. But honestly, 16 episodes in, Iâve learned that that describes this show pretty well.
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SNW Liveblog: Episodes 6 & 7
âLift Us Where Suffering Cannot Reachâ
I do get the concept of having an interning cadet performing various duties across all divisionsâŚI just highly doubt that said cadets would ever be entrusted with the shipâs phaser banksâfor obvious reasons!
Now this look is what Iâm talking about. Yeah, itâs tacky and cheap-looking, but itâs also geometric, iridescent, eye-catchingâŚretrofuturism, baby!
âThis is my Number One.â Is Pike allergic to the term âfirst officerâ?
At least part of my question about MâBengaâs daughter was answered! She does know that her father is keeping her in the medical transporter.
Somehow, I doubt that this alien child with a genius-level IQ would say âDeal!â
Christine being good with kids is still canon. <3
Ah, yes, the condescending âour technology is so vastly superior to yours that you wouldnât understand itâ aliens.
52,000 times the speed of light? âWow, thatâs super slow.â Annoying!
Spockâs interaction with this kid is really cute, though.
â[My phaserâs] not on stun.â It should be! Jesus, Pike!!!
Oh, look: Sam Kirk, who might have been dead for the last three full episodes, appears out of nowhere! And no oneâs even going to acknowledge that heâs been MIA for an undisclosed period of time.
I know a lot of people love Anson Mountâs Pike and find him to be the ideal Starfleet captainâbut imo, he lacks both Kirkâs warmth and charisma and Picardâs eloquence and discipline. Though heâs had his moments, neither his lines nor the way he delivers them are doing anything for me. It usually seems like heâs doing just that: reading lines.
âHere, on Enterprise.â Itâs THE Enterprise, dammit.
Pike finally expressing some genuine emotion is refreshing.
This plot twist is horrific and reminds me of Stephen Kingâs The Tommyknockers, in which aliens also use living beings as âbatteriesâ.
Even acknowledging my deep bias in favor of previous installments, I feel like both Kirk and Picard would have caught on sooner and/or done more in an effort to save that little boyâdone anything they could, in fact! Pike just struggles a little, then goes back to his cabin for a shot of liquor. I also donât think Kirk or Picard wouldâve listened to such empty excuses about how well, Federation children suffer, too! Because frankly, fuck that noise.
This episode did feel very Trek, like you could swap out the SNW cast with, say, the TNG cast (though imo, the outcome would have been differentâŚor at least, the crewâs involvement would have differed). Iâve seen a few people suggest that this is a âneeds of the many outweigh the needs of the fewâ situation, or call the scenario a âmoral dilemma,â and I disagree in both cases, especially considering the technology and general knowledge of the featured alien society is shown to be wildly more advanced than that of the Federation. Thereâs no conceivable reason they should remain on a hostile planet on which their mere existence depends on a never-ending cycle of child torture. Are we meant to think that the âvoluntaryâ disintegration chambers are ethical in âA Taste of Armageddonâ just because humans are capable of killing, too? No! (That said, the episode does raise an interesting question about consent: obviously, the First Servant cannot consent to becoming a power sourceâŚso can MâBengaâs daughter consent to being kept in stasis in the medical transporter?)
The Good: Some good costumesâauthentic Trek vibesâactually visiting an alien planetâMâBengaâs daughter.
The Bad: Holier-than-thou aliens who condescend and use whataboutism argumentsâa lot of this episode is just illogical in many waysâthe false moral dilemma/dichotomy.
âThe Serene Squallâ
Whyyyy is TâPring back already, and why does she have a personal log thatâs being used as narration to open an episode? Whoâs asking for more TâPring??
âI have been doing research on human sex.â Spock and I are on the same wavelength here.
Fortunately, the real power couple appears in the very next scene!
Christine, like me, is thinking: I really donât want to talk about your girlfriend, Spock.
âI need a friend.â :( Hailing Kirk and McCoyâcome to the rescue of this sad Vulcan boy!
This is another very cute Spockstine heart-to-heartâŚbut the cringe dialogue strikes again: âPro tip!â SNW is going to seem so dated a decade from now. Itâs sad.
Starfleet calls Pike âtheir Boy Scoutâ? In his official file? ThatâsâŚweirdâand itâs ripped off from Carol Marcusâ (deragatory) nickname for Kirk. Itâs also going to be awkward when Kirk, whoâs younger than Spock, takes over the Enterprise in the not-so-distant future. (I guess in theory itâs going to be ~8-10 years in the future, but since I know that a) they introduce Kirk in this series, and b) heâs probably not going to be 22 in-universe, I somehow doubt that heâll be waiting in the wings to take over for years.
âIt looks like a netâŚexcept, you know, made of lasers.â Once again, I am asking: who tf okayed this script? Itâs so BAD.
Whatâs âplaying fast-and-loose with the rulesâ about the captain leading a landing party? Pikeâs done so multiple times already on this show, without taking the many times Kirk did it into account, of courseâitâs only in the twenty-fourth century that it becomes frowned upon/against regulations (probably because of what happened in the twenty-third, lol).
Ahhh, I do love thisâvery close to the look of TOS!
Spock and Aspen got in the turbolift from the Bridge, went to another deck, and then run intoâŚthe Bridge crew being led into the corridor as prisoners??? Make it make sense.
Lmfao of course Aspen was married to a Vulcan, which at this time is so rare that surely Spockâthe son of a human woman whoâs also married to a Vulcan manâwould already know about it, at least in passing, especially since Aspen is ex-Starfleet?
I see. She was lyingâŚwhich Spock should probably have figured out based on her claim to be married to a Vulcan.
Unfortunately sheâs not a better actress as âAngel.â Now sheâs just really over-the-top.
âOne of Vulcanâs favorite sonsâ Despite Sarekâs social rank, I really doubt thatâs true of Spock yet. Heâs also definitely not TâPringâs âone true loveâ lol.
But thatâs the thing: TâPring doesnât love Spock. We all know that! (Someone on this Bridge does love him, though!)
Angelâs threats to kill Spock are empty, because we, as the audience, know that thereâs absolutely NO chance of him dying.
THIS is the context of their first kiss?? A fake-out?!? After 57 years, I guess Iâll take what I can get, but itâs still disappointing.
Christine hasnât even had much of a chance to flirt with or pine for Spock. Iâm only watching SNW for this ship, so I canât believe Iâm complaining, but whereâs the build-up? The not-so-slow burn? Itâs just bad writing. So, the norm for this show.
It is a great kiss, though.
And then TâPring says she knew it was a ruse all along, and they justâŚget back together? Like nothing happened? When Spock and Christineâs mutual attraction is obvious (despite that I said about build-up)??? Thanks, I hate it.
âI know for certain thereâs no feelings between us.â Except there clearly are, and this line is a total betrayal of Christineâs character. Again. She was always more than a lovelorn nurse, but she did always love Spock, from âThe Naked Timeâ on, unashamedly! So for this Christine to say that she âknowsâ there are no feelings between herself and Spock after they made out in public, regardless of the reasonâŚsure, fine, whatever!
Stonn is in the credits. He must be the guy TâPring is with at the very end of the episode, I guess? And if so, hopefully that mean sheâll disappear from Spockâs storyline to carry on her own âaffairâ soonâŚ?! (Not holding my breath.)
I have yet to watch any movie after Search for Spock, so Iâm stuffing my fingers in my ears re: anything to do with Sybok. Iâve somehow avoided spoilers for 3+ years, so donât need to be influenced by a bunch of retconning before Iâm even properly introduced to the dude in canon.
So you can probably tell that I didnât care about the pirate plotline at all. Was it good? Was it memorable? Was it at least funny? ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ Iâm just here for the Spockstine, yâall. But I did notice Uhura wasnât in this episodeâŚwhich, tbh, is fine since sheâd probably be wasted by the writers.
The Good: So much Spock/Christine interaction, especially that kiss! TâPring breaking up with Spock. The writers remembering that Orions exist.
The Bad: Cringe dialogueâAspen/Angelâs actingâthe kiss being a fake-outâTâPring immediately re-bonding with Spock.
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SNW Liveblog: âSpock Amokâ
Vulcan! Iâm always excited to see Vulcan.
Oh, this is a dream. Got it. Also, Ethan looks kind of hot as âhumanâ Spock.
So in Spockâs dream, his human and Vulcan halves are embodied by two separate people who must to fight to the death (over TâPring)âŚwhat a heavy-handed, very literal way to represent his insecurities.
lmfao @ this space stationâI get updating certain designs now that they have the budget and technology to do so, but thereâs no way they had this kind of tech in the 23rd century (as it was depicted in TOS), even in a slightly alternate timelineâŚ
âI plan to spend most of my time here with my fiancee, TâPring.â Going to grit my teeth and ENDURE this. Reluctantly.
Spockâs quarters are, like Pikeâs, ENORMOUS. He isnât even the first officer, why are they so bigâŚ???
Theyâre also boring af compared to the way he had his cabin done up in TOS with the red wall-hangings and such. I do appreciate the little grate in the right corner, an obvious nod to the TOS design (albeit a tiny one).
No, please, donât kiss. Really. (They do, of course.)
Apparently Spock is âredecorating.â There are splashes of red on some of the walls, so I guess thatâs as close as Iâm going to get to the og design?
TâPring is, appropriately, a bitch.
The new design of the famous green tunic shirt is horrendous. Itâs not my favorite look on KirkâIâm a boring, standard-issue gold shirt girlieâbut Shatner pulls it off. This one doesnât even fit Pike properly, looks like itâs made of pleather, and any skin itâs supposed to show is covered by a black undershirt. Itâs a no from me.
And so far, Pike strikes me as a pretty bad diplomat. Iâm sure the show obviously wants me to think heâs an exemplary oneâif so, give me some proof to back it up!
Once again, nothing about these civilian clothes is a) going to age any better than the mod 60s-inspired designs of TOS did or b) visually appealing/interesting even right now.
âThey donât shore leave. They shore stay.â This DIALOGUE. I donât know if I can handle another 15 episodes of this.
Iâm unsure how I feel about them giving TâPring genuine grievances In her relationship with Spock, like him having to work late when theyâre supposed to meet for dinner. On one hand, it does seem more realistic than the reasons she gave in TOSâŚbut doesnât that then imply that her ultimate decision to leave Spock is based on emotion? (Itâs already based on emotion in a way, of courseâthat emotion being affection/lust for another man.) Whatâs more, Iâm not sure it NEEDS to be realistic. TâPring is not a nice person, maybe not even an ethical personâŚand thatâs fine. Weâre talking about the woman who was totally willing to let a total stranger die just because she didnât want to marry him. Female characters donât have to be nice and good to have worth. I donât like TâPring, but female characters donât have to be likable, either!
It makes so little sense, because SNWâs TâPring is both prejudice and emotionally abusive anyway! Her telling Spock that sheâs concerned that heâs becoming more human due to his Starfleet career is appropriate for her character and also cruel of her. Which is, again, appropriate.
Y es! More of this, please! (Preferably with better lightingâŚbut beggars canât be choosers.)
While Iâm all for erasing Roger Korby, I donât know that replacing Christineâs fiance with Random Redshirt #6 is a great choice. Canât a girl just be single? Especially since said Random Redshirt is the total opposite of Spock, with whom she was already flirting back in Episode 1.
Wow, they let Laâan have some personality in this scene. Granted, her personality is defined by cynicism and misanthropyâŚbut Iâm shocked!
However, that somewhat pointless Number One/Laâan scene interrupted the first real Spockstine scene (aka the reason Iâm watching) of the ENTIRE series. Rude!
@deeneedsaname Girl, where are you when I need you?? Itâs finally happening!
âYouâre clearly an extraordinarily intelligent person. But youâre also an idiot.â Once again, file under: things Christine would never say (*to Spock. Maybe to Bones or another crewman. But not to Spock.)
âThat is not a human gesture I am familiar with.â Like hell it isnât, Spock darling. As if Amanda wouldnât gently (or, sometimes, not so gently) smack some sense into SarekâŚor even into Spock, as the case may be.
âThatâs what being in a relationship is. Itâs mutual sacrifice. Pretty much why I avoid them.â I like the callback to what TâPring said earlierâHOWEVER, Christine Chapel is, canonically, the literal queen of (not-so-mutual) sacrifice for a relationship! She changed careers and signed aboard a galaxy-wide exploratory mission to find her missing fiance!!! You donât even have to keep Korbyâs character to maintain that (essential, imo) element of her characterâŚ?
âAn incompatible mate.â Oof, that word choice.
As fervently as I ship thisâŚwhen did Christine and Spock become close enough for Spock to feel comfortable discussing his dreams with her over a private dinner? Did I somehow miss that scene in a previous episode???
I do, however, love that this is an allusion to the scene in âAmok Timeâ where Spock tells Christine that heâs been dreaming about her.
I-Chaya reference!
âWhat are friends for?â Iâm choosing to believe this is also a deliberate allusion to the exchange between Kirk and Bones in Search for Spock. <3
Cute! Theyâre cute!!!
âA Vulcan soul-sharing?â Itâs called a mind meld, girl. Also, good thing she consents, since thatâs a huge component of Vulcan marriage, and she already asked him to marry herâŚ?
Bodyswap shenanigansâŚso, theyâre ripping off another (serious/tragic) TOS episode this week for shits and giggles? Iâm far from opposed to light-hearted or filler episodes (who doesnât love Tribbles and âA Piece of the Actionâ?!) but itâs a lot harder to pull off with 10-episode seasons and questionable script quality.
âSpock, I do not like hijinks.â File under: things TâPring, or any other Vulcan, would never say.
Spock had to perform a mind-meld with Kirk while he occupied Janice Lesterâs body before he really believed that their minds had been switched. But with an important diplomatic mission on the line, Pikeâs just going to take Spock and TâPringâs story at face value without any actual evidenceâŚ?
Speaking ofâŚhow the hell do they already know about tribbles?! Also, Iâm skipping every scene of this comedy subplot. Apparently I, too, hate fun.
Pike has some kind, eloquent things to say about Spock. Fanservice!
Who knew that male-pattern baldness was also a thing on VulcanâŚ
Everybody Except TâPring Loves Spock: The Episode (TSFS was Everybody Loves Spock: The Film) <3
âHumans evolved from apes, did they not?â a) No, humans evolved alongside apesâand we are, in fact, considered apes ourselves; and b) logic dictates that Vulcans must have evolved from something, too, buddy!
Spock being defensive of Christine! Spock punching a guy for insulting Christine!!! We love to see it. (I saw someone claim that this was Spock being defensive of himself, but itâs definitely his repeated comments about Christine that trigger Spockâs reaction.
So the thing that even a high Vulcan priestess doubted could be done/was purely a thing of legend (katra being transferred between bodies by a third party) is actually standard medical procedure that can be performed with ease in the Enterprise Sickbay? Donât tell Kirk and BonesâŚ
âYou know you can call me Christine.â Another nice allusion to their scene from âAmok Timeâ.
âVulcans cannot lie. At least not in the way that humans can.â Heâs such a liar, actually, and we love him.
Ethan and TâPringâs have so little chemistry, whereas he and Jess have SO MUCH of it.
Things I donât want: Spock and TâPring having sex. Spock and TâPring cuddling after sex. Who asked for this!?!!? The Spirk shippers? The Spockstine shippers?? No! No one did! Besides, love triangles are boring.
Sheâs gorgeous, tho.
The Good: Some wonderful moments between Spock and Christine (finally!), including references to their most electric scene in TOSâEthan and Jessâs chemistryâPike expressing Spockâs value as a person and an officer and, by extension, the value/ideals of the FederationâSpock expressing why he needs/feels at home in Starfleet.
The Bad: Cringe dialogue continues to plague this showâalmost all the Spock/TâPring stuffâthe entire body-swapping subplotâthe (unfunny) comedy subplot feat. Number One and Laâanâthat UGLY rendition of the green tunic!
The real reason Iâm watching SNW has taken center stage at lastâŚor is at least stepping into the light! This was a lackluster and in many ways an unserious episode that nevertheless offered up a few gems, perhaps to make up for the fact that Spock and TâPring actually have sexâŚthanks for that, Kurtzman! /s
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SNW Liveblog: âGhosts of Ilyriaâ
In which the dialogue is both the best and worst part of the episode.
Episode 1: âIâm gonna mess with your genome. [âŚ] Weâll have to make a few alterations if you want to blend in.â
Episode 3: ââŚa humanoid species known for modifying their genes⌠HoweverâŚgenetic modification is forbidden in the Federation.â
MAKE. THAT. MAKE. SENSE. I know what they did in Episode 1 was just temporary, but Chapelâs whole purpose on the ship is genetic research, which she used to alter (temporarily or otherwise) the genetic code of certain crew members??? Do the writers actually read their own scripts?!
An ion storm, you say? Is this going to be a mirror episode? Seems a little early in the showâs run to be pulling that rabbit out of the hat.
âWhatever tweaks your freak, pal.â Thanks, I hate it.
The design of Engineering is a little busy for my taste, and the lighting is still too low for a functional working environment, but it looks pretty cool!
Oh shit, I completely forgot about the Eugenics Wars (which are such a huge piece of Trek loreâthatâs my brain after eight days of work in a row, ig)âŚof COURSE genetic modification is forbidden! Which makes what they did in Episode 1 even more ridiculous!!! Iâm sure having Laâan discuss this with Number One is meant to be a wink and a nod to the audience, since presumably sheâs related to Khan in some way.
Just kidding, theyâre just going to openly acknowledge that sheâs related to Khan, lol. But in all seriousness: why is she? Why couldnât Laâan just be an OC???
Good Spock dialogue!
He said ârecordsâ the way Nimoy would have, and it made me smile.
Uhura, a xenolinguist and polyglot from Kenya, saying âyâallââŚhmmm.
âNonessential personnel.â âContact tracing.â âLockdown.â Obviously, this language could apply to any pandemic, but you can just tell that writers were still waist-deep in the experience of covid while they worked on this script.
Spockâs sass! We love to see it.
Okay, itâs pretty badass that Number One can carry a full-grown man (alien or not) over her shoulder.
âHow in the exact hell are you carrying him?â a. Christine and I are on the same wavelength, but b. thatâs a truly awful line of dialogue.
Iâm annoyed by Number Oneâs convenient backstory, but I guess to be totally fair to these writers, the character effectively has no backstory, so whatâs stopping them?
âYou know what will happen if that containment field goes down.â Yeah, weâve seen it happen to Spock, and weâve cried about it.
Ethanâs delivery could use some work. Iâm a mumbler myself, so I do get it, but especially since heâs playing Spock, he really needs to enunciate!
AhâŚthis showâs fantasy elements in a science fiction package strike again.
I know she wasnât a major, well-developed character, but I still feel comfortable in saying that âDonât thank me, I know Iâm good at my jobâ is an egregiously uncharacteristic thing for Christine Chapel to say. Yikes. (Christine IS good at her job, but TOS got that across by showing itâlike when she found a creative way to get a crewman to stop refusing food.)
An amazing shot with nods to the mod/retrofuturistic aesthetic of TOS (finally!)...more of this, please.
If they hadnât invented a medical transporter out of whole cloth, none of this would be a problem.
âNo spoilers.â They really had to slip THAT line in there as a capstone to MâBengaâs tragic story about his daughter? Good thing his daughter is super cute. I do wonder about consent here, though: did MâBengaâs partner/his daughterâs mother agree to this arrangement? What about his daughter herself?
Overall, this episode felt more like classic Trek than any of them have so far, right down to Spock being stranded planetside with his captain. While I question some of the writing/plot choices, I have no big complaints EXCEPT FOR the horrible continuity/logic error wrt this episode and the âgene therapyâ shown in the pilot. I was even pretty neutral on Pike in this episode. Heâs no Jim Kirk, but he was Fine. (But speaking of Kirk, what happened to Sam??? They just forgot he existed and almost died in the previous episodeâŚ?) And I like the moral of this episodeâs storyâI just feel like the way they got there was a little clumsy.
The Good: Several really authentic-sounding Spock moments; Jess Bush is gorgeous; MâBengaâs absolutely adorable daughter; they kept the whistle sound on the Bridge from TOS!
The Bad: Is âgene therapyâ okay, or isnât it?! Consistency, people! Other dialogue choicesâŚwere madeâsome are OOC, some are just cringe, which is par for the course on SNW; Laâan conveniently being Khanâs descendant; this show continues to be more fantasy than scifi
I am once again hoping for more S/C in the next episode!
#luth liveblogs snw#no one has read any of these I bet but I'll keep doing them for no one just the same
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