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Odysseus: My darling wife, I’ve been away for so long- But I got you a present!
Penelope: A present? For me?
Penelope, shaking the box: Oh, I hope it’s the suitor’s heads. Oh, please, please be the suitor’s heads.
(heads spill onto the floor)
Penelope: How did you know!?
#greek mythology#the odyssey#tagamemnon#odysseus#penelope#odypen#slaughter of the suitors#source: oversimplified
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Tomorrow, Odysseus will be home.
#epic the musical#odysseus#the odyssey#jorge rivera herrans#greek mythology#homer#epic odysseus#epic the ithaca saga#suitor slaughter#epic the musical countdown#yippee!
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I haven't read the Odyssey so I'm asking you. Are you telling me besides Athena, Apollo was the god who helped Odysseus and his family the most? Indirectly at least.
If that's true it's really a missed opportunity in EPIC.
No, no, the god who assists Odysseus the most after Athena is unquestionably Zeus.
Zeus genuinely has no problems with Odysseus and makes it very clear that he finds the man brilliant and would have already had him home and safe if he had his way, but he makes it clear that he's deferring to Poseidon who actually has the problem with Odysseus because, ultimately, the sea is Poseidon's domain and kingdom and Zeus doesn't intend to step on his brother's toes.
(Od. Book 1 trans. Robert Fitzgerald)
I'd definitely give third place to Apollo however. The big bug-bear about Apollo in the Odyssey is just that he's much less tangible than Athena or even Hermes who appears to Odysseus multiple times to help guide him/give him proclamations. His presence is everywhere though; like I've previously mentioned (and like he did with Jason) it's Apollo protecting Odysseus from Poseidon as he sails the sea after Odysseus blinds Polyphemus. It's also Apollo keeping Telemachus safe. His most vital role by far is when Odysseus returns to Ithaca in time for the challenge that will determine the next king. Not only is it a shooting contest whose first hurdle is to string a bow, the challenge itself takes place on a festival day for Apollo. Athena is there with Odysseus and Telemachus physically, but Apollo is looking after them in spirit, sending signs and signals to keep Telemachus especially safe.
(Od. Book 15, Telemachus warns about the state of Odysseus' house to Theoclymenus, a son of one of Apollo's prophets.)
There's also the fact that Odysseus makes sure to pray to Apollo before he attempts to string the bow:
(Od. Book 21. Beggar-Odysseus petitions to shoot his shot)
Likewise, before he slays the first suitor, Odysseus again prays for Apollo's guidance and gaze to guide his arrows:
(Od. Book 22. Odysseus commits the first of many (divinely-sanctioned) murders)
Also, as an additional thing, have Telemachus invoking Zeus, Athena and Apollo that he could see the suitors have their asses beat:
(Od. Book 18. Telemachus excitedly gushes to him mom about his cool new friend (Odysseus. Odysseus is the friend.)
There's a lot of minimisation of Apollo's role in the Odyssey because it isn't as bright and showy as his role was in the Iliad but hey, even there people tend to minimise how truly present Apollo is for the duration of the war when they're doing adaptations. Within Epic, the stage is already more than set for both Apollo and Athena to be there at the advent of Odysseus' revenge but none of that matters if that's not the creator's intention, y'know?
#ginger rambles#ginger answers asks#the odyssey#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#Man shoutout to Antinous for invoking Apollo to be like#oh haha yeah we'll just postpone the challenge and offer a sacrifice to Apollo#so he won't be mad#Like Apollo didn't already have his bow cocked and ready to shoot all the suitors LMAO#Odysseus and Laertes also both thank Apollo for keeping their sons safe btw#Odysseus thanks Apollo offhandedly while speaking about Telemachus -thanking him for ensuring that Telemachus took after him in wisdom#While Laertes is restored for a brief moment after he and Odysseus reunite and he thanks Zeus Athena and Apollo for keeping him and Ody#long enough to have this reunion#Other fun things include: Penelope praying to Artemis to strike her down on the day before the challenge so she never has to be w/h another#man besides Odysseus#The suitors praying (loudly and with fervour) for Apollo to strike Telemachus down#And Odysseus praying to Zeus because the amount of times he wanted to just say “fuck it” and start slaughtering people#for defiling his house LMAO#odysseus#telemachus#apollo#athena#zeus#Thank you for the ask!
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My tribute for the Ithaca Saga. I wonder if something will ever make me feel the same way I did when I listened to it. Love you Jorge
#odysseus has no clothes because in the odyssey he slaughtered the suitors without any#epic penelope#odysseus#epic the musical fanart#epic the musical#the odyssey#greek mythology#greek myth art#fanart#tagamemnon#greek mythos#the ithaca saga#epic the ithaca saga#ithaca saga#jorge rivera herrans#odypen
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Going feral as I think about my greek soulmates percabeth who were Perseus and Andromeda in a past life and Odysseus and Penelope in another. Falling in love in every lifetime. Finding each other every time. Their love is true and unconditional. Listening to “Would You Fall In Love With Me Again” from Epic and thinking about post Tartarus Annabeth having to cope and deal with the more cruel and dark version of Percy she saw in the pit and coming out the other side still loving him. He hesitates before reaching for her and his touch is so gentle and barely there, his hands tremble slightly as if he’s afraid he’ll hurt her and Annabeth is sure that no matter what he does, he’ll always be hers. He’ll always be her love. He’ll always be her best friend and soulmate. She’ll always love him.
#I’m foaming at the mouth#I’m rabid over them rn#GREEK SOULMATE PERCABETH FTW#EVERY LIFETIME. EVERY POSSIBILITY. THERE IS ONLY YOU.#PERCABETH FIND EACH OTHER IN EVERY REINCARNATION AND FALL IN LOVE OVER AND OVER AGAIN#PERCY (penelope) WAITING FOR TWENTY YEARS FOR HER HUSBAND ANNABETH (odysseus) TO RETURN TO HER#ANNABETH FIGHTING ALL MANNER OF FOES TO OUTWIT AND GET BACK TO HIS WIFE#LOYAL TO THE END.#OBVIOUS PERSEUS AND ADROMEDA PARALLELS#TRUE LOVE WINS AGAIN#pjo#hoo#percabeth#percy jackson#annabeth chase#percy jackson and the olympians#heroes of olympus#heros of olympus#headcanon#head canon#hc#they take turns in every life#perseus saving adromeda after going on an adventure#odysseus going on a 20 year journey while penelope waits at home for him to get back and slaughter the suitors#then this life they both went on adventures and saved one another#when they die it will be peaceful and they’ll be welcomed into the isle of the blessed together
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Odysseus 🤝 Kevin from Home Alone
Getting those bastards out of their damn homes
#should have posted this on christmas#at least it's still the epiphany#epic au where odysseus remains nice and decides to get rid of the suitors by setting wacky traps around his palace#and Home Alone au where Kevin slaughters the thieves with his unstringable bow#that one wouldnt look that different#epic the musical#odysseus#odyssey#epic the ithaca saga#home alone#christmas movies
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Thinking about Epic the Musical/the Odyssey and isn't it fun how Odysseus is technically responsible for wiping out what is likely the majority of the adult male population of Ithaca :)
#basket speaks#epic the musical#odysseus#the odyssey#tagamemnon#the 600 men that went with him was probably a sizable chunk if not the majority of adult males capable of fighting on ithaca#ithaca is not/was not historically a large island#and between the fact that ody brings a whopping 12 ships to troy when some of the other kings bring 30 or 40#and the fact that most of the men around when he gets back to ithaca after twenty years are either old men who couldnt have fought‚#young men who would have been children when he left‚#or suitors from other islands...#yeah he basically wiped out an entire generation of men#and then did a significant amount of slaughtering the next generation‚ given how many were among the suitors#no wonder people rose up and tried to kill him before athena stepped in and was like 'no he gets a happy ending' lol#i have to wonder how many people were bitter after that#cause sure‚ *odysseus* gets a happy ending. not your husband. not your son.#penelope and telemachus got their happy reunion after twenty years but not the other 600 families
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when you realise that both odysseus and medea are manipulating, deceiving characters who are way too smart for their own good but are overcome by anger, pride and jealousy which leads them to commit horrendous acts of violence. and then odysseus is the hero and medea is the bitch
#ok there IS a difference#there are multiple differences#medea is expected to tolerate jasons cheating. she doesnt and therefore challenges expectations set on women#odysseus goes on a wild killing rampage murdering and executing all the suitors and penelopes maids#medea kills her own children which i will say is on another level#but they both commit multiple murders#odysseus is a hero. he fought at troy (where he slaughtered ppl in a temple. yay) and hes a greek king#medea is a priestess of hecate and from kolchis so basically from the other end of the world (to the greeks)#so shes not only a weird woman shes also not entirely human aand “barbaric“#but i would argue that both commit revenge out of anger pride and jealousy#only that defines the image we have of medea (ignoring how she helped jason on multiple adventures) as a jealous murderous witch#but it doesnt impact the image we have of odysseus as a wily hero#yeah welcome to my 5. pk#5. pk#and dont even get me STARTED on lady macbeth#in the wise words of gerard way “and so he gets to die a saint but she will always be the whore“#greek mythology#medea#odysseus
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Odysseus: Enemy prisoner out lived his usefulness? Dickhead put your child in danger to force you to go to war? Come home at last after 20 years away to 108 assholes invading your home, consuming your riches and harassing your wife and son???
Odysseus: Have you considered… murder?
#greek mythology#tagamemnon#the iliad#the odyssey#odysseus#penelope#telemachus#dolon#palamedes#slaughter of the suitors#odyssey book 22#source: sao abridged
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4 days until Odysseus gets home
#epic the musical#odysseus#the odyssey#jorge rivera herrans#greek mythology#homer#epic odysseus#epic the ithaca saga#I don’t think he’s prepared for the housewarming party#suitor slaughter
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yall know that scene .. in lotr.. where aragorn really sexily opens the door to helms deep ... yeah <3
#a wip. but i am cooking i fear .#there was a diff version where he was holding a bow but it looked very clunky so.#poks office chair#this is. him exiting the room after slaughtering the suitors. the fog comes from . him being so steamy god thats a HORRIBLE joke#i will see myself out.
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DISCUSS: does amphinomus technically count as a character doomed by the narrative
#the particulars vary from translation-to-translation but regardless#amphinomus did NAWT like what the rest of the suitors were doing but alas#he was willing to skip town but athenas will is always stronger... damned to stay for the slaughter...#amphinomus was doomed by the narrative 2000+ years before your fav was#xndead rambles#amphinomus#the odyssey#homer
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"I am not your kind and gentle husband :("
YOU THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE MARRIED YOU FOR??
has anyone done this yet
#friendly reminder that penelope is a Spartan#him slaughtering the suitors like that#is probably hot to her
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Antinous: Give it up, old man. It’s your word against ours.
Odysseus: Yeah, let’s do it.
Antinous: What?
Odysseus: You selected the word ‘what’!
Odysseus: ha
Odysseus: Big mistake, bro.
Odysseus: (taking aim) I choose ‘shenanigans’.
#greek mythology#tagamemnon#the odyssey#antinous#odysseus#slaughter of the suitors#source: twitter#odyssey book 22
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Do you mates think Odysseus or Telemachus will use the “close your eyes and spare yourself the view” line with Penelope before or after the uuuuh suitor slaughter?
#epic the musical#odysseus#epic odysseus#epic odypen#epic penelope#epic: the musical#epic the ithaca saga#suitor slaughter#I’m coining that term now lol
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everyday the voices tell me to make a legendary/little wolf animatic
#idk i told my friends if i ever made an animatic for little wolf theyd be in the crowd of suitors#bc they always go INSANE whenever i send any penelope art#just like "HI MAAM HELLOOOO'#which like does this mean im technically dooming my friends 2 be slaughtered by odysseus#yeah#but he did kill all the suitors naked#and theyd probably like that too. the freaks. /loving#ANYWAYS i just have some ideas for it#that i think i cant translate through like a still art piece#and would work better as an animatic#its just. SO much#i might try this week though.. whos 2 say..#poks office chair
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