#sins and ars goetia as background characters

[7thingsnbeings]

“You Dare Defy Me?”

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Call Emberlynn Pinkle an online creep, but she's Cassandra if her fan fiction is a prediction of future episodes regarding Blitzø, Stolas and Satan! I'll eat my shoe if that happens!

[sadhornydemons]

Rapid-Spoiler-Season-Speculation: Mastermind/Sinmas

Mastermind:

After a bout of angst filled episodes, I'm theorizing that this one might be the nice change of pace: fun, filler episode/calm before the storm.

Not to mention, a nice mixup of two villain groups.

The Cherubs mention they are waiting for I.M.P. to return to Earth, but the D.H.O.R.K.S. seem to have a portal to get to them faster?

Robot? Robot with a skull chest emblem? Well, if they already have a Loona Fursuit, I guess they could just be into making freaky shit now. Could they send it through the portal? In which case,

There's a massive battle going on in the Lust ring.

Blitz is missing from these scenes until this one where he appears to be at the Pride ring.

Where the crystal portal is finally shown, see previous example:

D.H.O.R.K.S. appear defeated (but still alive? Well, it's not like IMP kills humans for a living..oh, wait) and Blitz is grabbing the card off their desk.

End of screen captures/speculation for this one, but I feel like events have to be running gradually in the background of the last few episodes for the doo doo to really hit the fan in the last:

Sinmas:

First, let's talk voice actors. Harvey Guillén came in fairly recently, but has been confirmed to voice Vassago. Now, they can always work around voice work to be added later, but I'm really leaning towards his character not appearing until this last episode.

Jason LaShea voices Andrealphus, assuming this shot is from the finale:

I think it's likely that Andrealphus, being a minor character, only appears in one or two episodes. With that in mind, let's assume the following scenes, which share the same background images, also take place in Sinmas:

We see at least one Sin, confirmed members of the Ars Goetia, and several sporting crowns. Aka the higher ups & royalty of Hell. And Stolas is missing. Oh, but Andrealphus states he will summon him.

(Off topic, but does anyone in hell know/care that Stolas's ex wife tried to have him killed? Paparazzi mobbed his hospital when he was hurt, but no one followed up on that news story?)

Likely the same scene, "You are a disgrace." Unknown character states. Whom? Ozzie? Stolas? The demon who took the last blueberry muffin from the snack table?

"Where is Stolas, anyway?" Well, this is the only image of him that appears to be from the finale:

1) Is that a blessed weapon sword?) 2) Is that a Gabriella hair stripe or an 'I was frozen today!' Anna-inspired white stripe?)

Which matches up with this:

And either Stolas left the refrigerator open for 4 solid episodes resulting in his mansion freezing over or his in-laws are relatives of Elsa's and favor home renovations.

Okay, buckle up sluts, MASSIVE SPECULATION TIME:

What would cause Stolas to move out?

Or rather, what would force Stolas to move out?

Andrealphus wants his money and property, Stella just wants him dead, but she has to follow her brother's wishes. Andrealphus tells her, "I say we bid our time. And wait for the chance to gain the upper hand."

And they might had had it all along.

You know, I wanted to say that Blitz fully and unprompted, spelled out, in detailed terms, how he was using Stolas's item to gain access to the mortal world immediately upon meeting Striker, but in watching it again:

Striker seemed to already know? So, either, Stella knew and told him or he did his research (if the IMP commercial from the pilot is still canon, they basically broadcasted it). But Blitz does go a step further and literally job interviews the guy, likely giving him even more info in the process.

Stolas even states, more than once, that they're not suppose to be using the book and that it's 'less than legal' even in hell.

So far, Stella has only been attacking Stolas. Striker knows Octavia is Stolas's main weakness, but hearing all the 'Blitzy' mentions during torturing, maybe he'll relay that there's another way they can exploit him. After all, Stella just thinks of him as any interchangeable Imp.

Stolas stated before that he would not leave Octavia, so maybe this was the reason he returns to the palace? But not soon enough, considering...*

The voice over does not match the scene, but it is as follows:

"You never loved mother and you don't love me, you love HIM!"*

Back to the image, is Via a fast learner or does she have the Grimoire? During the Loo Loo Land flashback, Stolas, having studied the book for a decade at that point, still needed it to travel to other planets.

And IMP seemed to be using the crystal in the last episode..

And if that's not complicated enough, let's get back to the Hell High Council meeting,

It sounds like they're discussing Stolas, before Vassago asks, "Where is Stolas, anyway?" Before demanding that they summon him, "at once!" Fortunately, this parrot's suppose to be a good guy, since unfortunately it seems like Stolas is in real more trouble.

Is it the illegal spellbook loaning? The (still alive?) D.H.O.R.K.S. having him on film? Satan help him if someone also managed to record him twerking on stage at the Verosika Mayday show.

We'll have to wait and see, but Stolas appears to return to the mansion with Blitz afterwards.

< / End MASSIVE SPECULATION >

Well, that's what I came up with. We've got 6 more months to go, and as the episodes do FINALLY get aired things might become more clear.

[recipe-for-monsters]

A from the Helluva Boss season 2 trailer, a lot of people have been pointing out the outfits characters are wearing or the continuity of the backgrounds in order to try and predict which scenes go with which episode. Now, quite a few scenes with Vassago (the parrot guy) take place in a red building with what looks to be apple motifs decorating the architecture. This is also present in the very small clip of Mammon. So this is likely some sort of meeting or maybe yearly social event for Hell’s upper crust AKA the Ars Goetia, the Sins, and likely Charlie’s family.

From all this, we can conclude that it’s entirely possible that Stella and Mammon have met each other. The Golden Goose ship could totally happen, fuck yes. :DDD

[eclectictrans]

Possibly Unhinged Hazbin Hotel Theory Re: Carmilla Carmine

First I want to go over what we know about Carmilla:

Angelic Arms Dealer in Hell (only known Angelic Arms dealer, and according to Pentious, the best in Pentagram City)

She has daughters, which either means she adopted them which is weird for immortal sinners IMO, they are her Biological daughters, or she is actually a born in the afterlife (like Charlie, the imps, or hellhounds)

Has a disproportionate number of major roles in songs given how minor her role is - with a major role in Respectless, and Whatever it Takes, and a *SOLO* with Out for Love. She is one of 2 characters to have a non-pilot solo, with Angel Dust having a solo song in Poison.

She never states where she gets angelic steel, but is able to provide a huge amount to the hotel crew within a short notice, especially since it seems like it is custom made (with Cherries bombs, Pentious' steampunk machines, Angel's Bullets and Husks cards being shown to kill angels on screen)

She knew how to fight against an angel during her first ever encounter, and after fighting one, she was able to teach multiple weak points in angels (when her knife boots had only cut off the neck of one angel)

She recognized Vaggie as not only an angel, but an exorcist, with her reasoning being that she has an X over her eye, and has an angelic spear, claiming it was obvious. Two things that aren't actually that weird. Lots of Sinners have weird eyes (Angel, Vox Nifty and Cherri just of main characters, and there are at least 3 living background demons specifically having "X"s in or over their eyes, 2 in the pilot, and 1 in Alastor's Commercial) and she sells weapons - including angelic weapons - presumably to anyone

My theory:

Carmine is an Angel, and a relatively high ranking one maybe even another Seraph, who originally was acting as someone who would sow war in hell, selling weapons to kill other demons so that even between exterminations the population didn't get too high. However when she met and/or had her daughters (maybe with a Hellborn like a Seven sin or Ars Goetia), she gained a soft spot for Hell and didn't wish to see hell eradicated. I believe she did know that angels could be killed, and always avoided the extermination with insider knowledge.

Evidence:

Similar skin tone as Vaggie, another Angel.

Duet with Vaggie, another Angel

Trains Vaggie, another Angel

Sells Angelic Weapons

Is able to source lots of angelic weapons

Knows multiple weaknesses of Angels after a single encounter

Seems to know Heaven's intentions beyond just population control.

Her weapons even spread to parts of hell unreachable by Sinners (such as Striker in Hellava Boss having 3 different Angelic Weapons, one specifically listing Carmine by name) This is a weaker point, as hellborn can travel to the pride ring, with I.M.P even having their base there.

[tenshiharmonia]

Well, if we want to be exhaustive, we first have to talk about the Lesser Key of Solomon (also known as the Lemegeton Clavicula Salomonis, or the Lemegeton, for short), an occult text from the seventeenth century, based on previous, similar works such as Johann Weyer's Pseudomonarchia Daemonum. The first part of the grimoire, known as the Ars Goetia ("the Art of Witchcraft", roughly), gives details about seventy-two demons said to have been summoned by Solomon to help him build his kingdom. Vassago is one of them (in fact, he is one of the very few demons mentioned in the Lesser Key who were not already present in the Pseudomonarchia). In the book, he holds the title of Prince (same as Stolas), commands twenty-six legions of demons, and is said to be able to not only locate lost treasures, but also tell his summoner about both past and future. He is also described as being of "a good nature"… Now, as you're surely aware, in the series proper, the demons described in the Ars Goetia have been reimagined as the Goetia family, a clan of powerful hellborns that reigns over Hell. Of course, it should be noted that in the show, the Goetia family, with all its different branches, is not comprised of just the seventy-two demons detailed in the book, as evidenced by the existence of Octavia (daughter of Stolas) and Stella (sister of Andrealphus). As for Vassago, he was introduced in the recent trailer for the second part of season 2. Search for the guy who looks like a red parrot wearing fancy sunglasses (as others have pointed out, his design was actually first used in the pilot episode of Hazbin Hotel, implying that he was meant to be a sinner overlord, until he got reworked as a member of the Goetia clan). Naturally, since he has yet to make his proper debut in the show, we can only speculate about what he will be like and how much of his mythological background will factor into his character. One popular theory is that he could be Blitz' future rival in love, but for now, the only thing we know for sure is that he'll be voiced by Harvey Guillén… (For the sake of exhaustivity, I was also going to say a brief word about the Seven Deadly Sins, but I kind of feel like I would have been overstepping the mark. XD )

The bad part about entering the Hellaverse fandom now is that I'm clueless about so many important things (specially when it comes to Helluva Boss)

Like for lucifer's sake WHO THE FUCK IS VASSAGO????