#shoukason

[whosname]

[Id. Digital drawing of Yoshida Shouyou and kids Gintoki, Takasugi and Zura trick-or-treating. Shouyou in in the back smiling and wearing a headband with demon horns. In front of him, Gintoki is looking bored wearing an egg costume; Takasugi is embarrased wearing a ghost costume and Zura is very pruod of his Jack-o-lantern costume. All their costumes are on the baggy side and are built from pieces of different fabrics. End Id.]

You wanted some free candy, Gin, what were you expecting? (bg from here)

[Id. Detail of the kid's costumes. End Id.]

[joelletwo]

my divorced fucking wives. im just copying this whole scene bc i love the art and paneling

[reductionisms]

gintama mathematics compendium

recent developments in the world of gtama mathematics have convinced me to put together a rough handbook, if you will, of its various disciplines and applications.

the culmination of my gtama-math thinking is a (subjective) understanding that any gtama math is necessarily derivative. gtama mathematicians take gintama's initial unintelligible representation and extract meanings from it into relations we can better understand; in other words, we are looking at the representation of something undescribable and attempting to describe it further. if you like Euclid, this is going from R^n to R^n-1.

the scope of this list is narrow simply because my memory sucks and my knowledge of gtama-math bloggers is small. please send me addendums and updates so i can incorporate them.

My qualifications for this project are that I'm bad at math.

Philosophical Basis

on gintama as a mathematical system (yamameta, 2024)

Set Theory (groups and their relations)

gintoki equivalence class (ibid, 2023)

yorozuya&shinsengumi equivalence class (kraniumet, 2022)

joui 3 set theory (ibid, 2022)

ft. ygh set theory (ibid, 2022)

shoukason equivalence classes (joelletwo, 2023)

Analysis (limits, continuity, sequences, etc)

limit theory (kraniumet, 2023)

zura is schrodinger's wall (ibid, 2022) *geometric analysis

Algebra (concepts and their operations)

shouyou transitive property (yamameta, 2023)

shogun assassination equivalence poem (kraniumet, 2022)

takasugi&gin (me, 2024)

eye equivalence (kraniumet, 2024)

fs castle (ibid, with tags from transjjester, 2023)

cliff (agroupofcrows, 2022)

poles (ibid, 2023)

Euclidean Geometry (parallel lines exist)

types of symmetry (yamameta, 2024)

angle relations (ibid, 2023)

foils/parallels (ibid, 2022)

utsuro samsara geometry (agroupofcrows, 2023)

spiderweb cycles (ibid, 2022)

illustration of the final (ibid, 2023)

cinematic angles (kraniumet, 2022)

shoukason geometry (suchira with regnigt, 2024)

comedy orientations (regnigt, 2023)

Topology (beyond the parallel)

ouroboros framework (yamameta, 2023) *including sequel (application), original poem and its annotation

spheres (ibid, 2023)

spiderweb cycles #2 (agroupofcrows, 2023) *c.f. path connectedness in toplogy

joui 3 homeomorphism (kraniumet, 2022)

joui 4 topology one (ibid, 2024), two (ibid, with my tags, 2024)

Logic (applications)

time math (ibid, 2023)

takasugi math (ibid, 2022)

final triangle math (joelletwo, 2024)

shogun assassination equivalence (triangles) (joelletwo as joelleity, with kraniumet tags, 2023) *tags belong to analysis

shogun assassination equivalence (relational) (agroupofcrows, my tags, 2023)

shouyoutsuro reproductive strategies (joelletwo, 2023)

sakagin existence theory proof (yamameta, 2024)

sacchan/mutsu existence theory proof (ibid, 2024)

Conclusions:

I think gtma math works best when it refuses to describe with generative structures. that is, rather than generating an unrelated, outside structure and forcing gintama into it, we look at gintama and derive structures from it in cooperation with other knowledge. obviously the entire concept of gtama math already seems generative (who in gintama is actually doing math, anyways?), but i think this actually comes down to axioms and proofs, basis and spaces. gintama is already some unknown space; we first acquaint ourselves with the space, consider its pre-existent properties, and then we incorporate outside knowledge-as-description to reduce it into something knowable. this takes a lot of creativity, and is quite literally the procedure of math.

every single person who engages with any text ever is actually doing this in their own heads. we can never know anything, and yet, when we are related to by something from outside ourselves, we are called to incorporate its shadow into who we are. mistakes come when we generate ideas of what outside things should be and force whatever approaches us to fit those ideals (e.g., never-ending complaints about fanon). in a certain sense, though, it's impossible not to do this, which is why the modern mathematical system exists. logic is about appropriate direction; rather than idea in my head->put thing outside me into my idea->this is what the Thing is, math wants to go in the reverse: I can't know the thing outside me->it enters into me nonetheless->from studying it and relating it to other things, i generate ideas. hence axioms, which put the Thing inside your mind while also telling you, what we're talking about, you can never know, it is and isn't real, but you still have to deal with it.

everyone derives, or, in its proper sense, generates, their own frameworks about everything they come into contact with, whether or not they're aware of it. and yet, it takes a shit ton of thought and creativity to shape the framework taking form in your head into something actually expressible in words. the gtama mathematicians cited here are therefore brave warriors of mathematics, literary analysis, philosophy, and general living. pythagoreas has nothing on any of you.

[lotus-tower]

super classic shoukason video

[whosname]

[Id. Cover design of a textbook "Shouka Sonjuku Lee" -Shouka Sonjuku Reads- with kids Zura (focused, holding a book), Gintoki (bored) and Takasugi (kind of confused) sitting on the floor while Shouyou is in front of them. The back cover is a drawing of Shouyou smiling. End Id.]

I designed a fake Shouka Sonjuku text book for my Ginpachi Sensei cosplay (gonna put it on a Ranma 1/2 volume -photos under the cut). Kind of based on this Shoukason cosplay.

[whosname]

[Id. Digital drawing of kids Gintoki and Takasugi fighting with their hands on their faces. End Id.]

Brats II Happy birthday, you perm head!!

[joelletwo]

COMMON NOBUME WIN @uranium-drive

okay im going but im still thinking about that "who was shouyou's best student" poll

[joelletwo]

why didnt shouyou just leave the jail cell. was he stupid?

[joelletwo]

feel like maybe id care about gntm shinsengumi if i read kondou's monkey temple school backstory -> baragaki backstory -> this arc again for the chronological baby experience. but i dont want to care about them so im not going to do that

[joelletwo]

v re6 core of him

[joelletwo]

[compliment in the body of the post] i loooove when sorachi takes a shitty little villain guy like kyojiro or douman and turns them into the sopping wettest little kid u wanna scoop up that uve ever seen

[joelletwo]

aw different sword. i was gonna lose my mind. reading and rereading gintama is entirely about training ur pattern recognition

[joelletwo]

i like these really kjsf offmodel baby shoukason faces. hell yeah give them distinct features instead of big ol baby eyes

[joelletwo]

squinting. every once in a while i want to pull out and clip every time natori and matoba say each others names in WU. for funsies and analytics. could do that real quick. wednesday.

[joelletwo]

(via leo) #fwiw i think that 'present day' gin-san/gin-chan/yorozuya are the most 'normal' ways to address him#people who still call him 'gintoki' being outliers in some way (knew him when he was younger (shoson)/guardian figure (otose)/dont have a#good grasp of normal social ettiquite (catherine/tama))

#this being important (in my understanding) because yorozuya/gin-chan are the first names he chooses for himself#in contrast to corpse eating demon/gintoki/shiroyasha#BUT! i also think shouyou bestowing the name 'gintoki' to him AND sakamoto challenging that with the name 'kintoki' are both important#(vital?) to his eventual full realisation of human-ness by choosing a name.

#shouyou of course giving him the foundation by giving him a human name. and then sakamotos insistence on 'kintoki' forcing him to CLAIM that#name=claim the identity of humanness. assert it. its not kintoki. its GINtoki. its yorozuya GIN chan.#this assertion of identity relevant in the less serious 'old yorozuya' arc and more serious kintoki arc#anyway. isnt it so wonderful that hes surrounded by people who call him the name he gives them.

i think its funny that even as kids everyone was on first name basis with gintoki and no one (gintoki) bothered to do the same for anyone else (takazura)

[whosname]

Byyyye, ginzura and the samurai jacket month, I love you but you were too fucking long. Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, shoukason brats month with your two long weekends and two weeks off.