#ship all the daves and johns
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err.. i have too many favs.
#my art#homestuck#john egbert#rose lalonde#jade harley#dave strider#dirk strider#roxy lalonde#nepeta leijon#sollux captor#terezi pyrope#gamzee makara#eridan ampora#meulin leijon#kurloz makara#mituna captor#cronus ampora#damara megido#latula pyrope#the psiioniic#the desciple#dadbert#NAH I AINT TAGGING ALL THIS SHIPS#beta kids#homestuck ancestors#homestuck dancestors#alternia
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either one is good, to be honest
#homestuck#homestuck fanart#rose lalonde#john egbert#dave strider#should i just add all the ships in the tags#maybe#actually yes i will#johndave#pepsicola#johnrose#grimdorks#davejohn#rosejohn#i may like them both#but i prefer one a little more#just saying#you all have no idea how fun this art style is#like. DUDE#WHO KNEW GIVING THEM NECKS AND SHOULDERS WOULD ACTUALLY WORK
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davesprite my good friend davesprite
#i like this guy. a normal amount#funny thing is when i was 2/3rds through reading homestuck i was complaining to a friend about the size of the cast-#and how tricky it is to keep track of that many characters and care about whatâs happening to them#i said smth along the lines of âhow am i supposed to care about all these guys especially when they barely matter. whats the point of-#another dave but with wings??â#and now davesprite is my second favorite character. whoulda thunk.#anyway he gets done so dirty by jade and john on the ship. fuck that he should be treated better#ok ramble over. can you tell i like davesprite. tags time babyy#homestuck#homestuck fanart#fanart#hs fanart#art#davesprite#davesprite fanart#homestuck davesprite#beta kids
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Instead of taking these 50 minutes before my Chem II exam to get in a bit of extra studying, Iâm kicking my feet and scrolling through JohnDave art on Twitter. Fucking free me
#homestuck#theyâre so cute#one thing abt me is that you will see me shipping John with the striders#Dave#dirk#davesprite#Hal#lock the fuck in theyâre all peak#but also Roxy and John are cute#head in hands as a multishipper#johndave
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okay coming back to it now. very large parts of terezi's entire way of reacting to things center around vriska, no matter what terezi era we're talking about. when they were kids and friends, when they had their falling out and hated each other, when she had to live with the guilt of killing vriska, and when she had to live with the knowledge that she needed vriska alive to be happy and to fix the alpha timeline; it all comes back to vriska serket.
vriska's not an easy person to be friends with, largely due to her own unique issues. she was in a position where she had to grow up and conform to alternian societal standards much faster than any of the other trolls to survive, given the nature of her lusus. she had the strength of personality to pull it off, for better or for worse, so vriska spent her childhood pushing herself into being as adult and dominant as she could possibly be, following in the footsteps of mindfang and cutting out or belittling anyone who couldnt keep up with her. and she liked terezi! she knew about redglare and was a little bit obsessed with terezi, especially the parts of terezi that imitated redglare, and terezi probably really liked that attention and played into it quite a bit. she modeled a decent chunk of her personality after redglare's story, with the legislacerator ambitions and the dragons and the connection to vriska/mindfang, and ended up closer to vriska than anyone else. they were a team, and they had fun together, and vriska's entire attention was on her, at least the positive parts of it.
vriska's interactions with tavros (and probably also several others, including eridan, karkat, kanaya, and whoever else failed to meet her standards) were a very immediate, real example of what could happen if terezi lost vriska's attention and became 'l8me,' in vriskas eyes. not only would it be personally devastating to lose focus from her best friend, but it would also be potentially very, very dangerous to terezi, and I think terezi definitely knew that. when the scourge vs charge drama played out, we see terezi hesitant to act against vriska in her conversation with aradia; she warns aradia to let her handle it, but doesnt take action quickly enough. she's definitely trying to stall and let people cool down some, but aradia wont let it slide and retaliates against vriska herself, leading to vriska's retaliation back against aradia, of course. the stakes are higher, vriska has proven again that she wants to always have the last say, and terezi has to either let it slide, kill her altogether, or retaliate too weakly and open herself up to direct danger from vriska. she chooses to try and kill her (saying as much in her conversation with vriska right before the cue ball explosion, btw), but ultimately vriska survives and blinds her back.
at this point, terezi chooses not to continue to escalate. she says its because vriska blinding her is the best thing to ever happen to her; while I believe that's probably true to an extent, given that it put her in contact with her lusus, there's more to it than that. it completely stops the conflict between the trolls--she was the last harmed, and she doesnt want any payback; vriska is satisfied having the last say and shouldnt have an excuse to hurt anyone else. which is all well and good! but this action, choosing to set her own grievances aside for the sake of keeping the peace, is like..... classic self worth issues. couple that with terezi's favorite part of herself--her blindness--being inextricably tied to vriska, as something vriska did for her; terezi's self worth is now also inextricably tied to vriska. but terezi doesnt want anyone to see that, so she jokes and laughs and acts strangely to throw people off. if people think shes a weirdo because she WANTS them to, shes winning, right?
karkat I think is the only one who gets close to seeing behind all of this. vriska doesnt come CLOSE (which btw is why I dont really like endgame scourge sisters as moirails!! I think terezi is great for vriska but vriska is still terrible for her!!! preretcon terezi and (vriska) as matesprits makes much more sense to me but whatever). karkat has a real talent for seeing through people's bullshit to what theyre really thinking, and he's probably second in the 'forced to grow up early' race between the trolls (except its a little different for him because its more beneficial for him if he hides himself, rather than making a dominant stand like vriska), and he really, really likes terezi. I think they gravitate towards one another post scourge vs charge bc karkat just has this unconditional love in his heart for..... everyone, really, but especially terezi, and thats something terezi with her low self worth really relies on to recover from vriska not being her friend anymore. but karkat is his own bag of worms; he has so much going on and he gives conflicting signals and hes scared to commit to her (mostly because he has a hard time fitting in with troll romantic patterns tbh) and that drives terezi away because she thinks he doesnt like her as much as she likes him. also, I think at this point shes probably starting to consider him a better person than her, possibly due to his refusal to associate with vriska from the start, which comes to a head later pre retcon (that one DEVASTATING convo betwen them in the meenah flashes). so she runs away.
dave is really easy to talk to when all terezi wants is to hide from her feelings and her friends, because that is absolutely what dave wants too. they fall really quickly into a surface level only rapport and become really quick close friends by just.... being the person the other can talk to without it being a federal fucking issue. its something terezi really needed in that moment, and something that worked for dave at the time too. but still, even that relationship was all about vriska, because by this point terezi knew vriska was spending all her time talking to john. and terezi might 'know' that there is no john versus dave thing, but vriska thinks there is, and is certainly acting like the dave vs john thing is actually a terezi vs vriska thing, and its hard for terezi to stay out of that completely; shes the one who brings it up to dave, after all, and they talk about it more than john and vriska do iirc. and isnt it funny how, despite knowing that dave would never reach god tier or surpass johns ability, terezi picked him anyway and sided with the underdog without a fight? how she rolled over and let vriska win again?
(also, retcon timeline side note!!! I bet it really fucked with terezi when john told her not to date dave either because it didnt work out and wasnt good for either of them, but especially not for dave!!! she was just trying to have some easy fun without any sweeps old drama like with vriska or karkat and heres john from another timeline telling her going down that path would be bad for dave!!! alt terezi didnt tell him to do that!!! aishdjchjswbgdjchsjsj)
anyway. when terezi finally gears up to have her showdown with vriska, its not for her own sake. its because vriska killed tavros, and because terezi was pretty sure she had killed a few others as well (incorrect, but like.... of course terezi was gonna think that she was obsessed with vriska from the start), and because she felt as though there was only one way to save karkats life (and her own, and some of the other trolls, but please. we all know karkat was the one she wanted to save). and whether in the retcon timeline or not, terezi has to live with the knowledge that she can't escape vriska's hold on her, and she doesn't even want to. she's damaged goods, because she should HATE vriska; everyone else does, and shes done so many awful things, but terezi apparently cant live without her. and that breaks her in both timelines; more dramatically without the retcon, but still in the retcon timeline as well; she just is able to hide behind vriska's force of personality more in that timeline, just go along with the person she's stuck with by her own volition. so no, her self worth issues didnt come out of nowhere.
#it me#homestuck#terezi pyrope#vriska serket#karkat vantas#dave strider#vrisrezi#karezi#daverezi#fun fact this is why I really really like johnrezi!#like not to bring narrative symbolism into it but terezi feels really stuck in her position with vriska#and who better to free her than an heir of breath!#the johnrezi meat timeline was really good actually change my mind#I DO like vrisrezi dont get me wrong but like. idk man!!! vriska hasnt proven shes good for terezi yet!!!#(vriska) can be tho I believe in her so much#my three big john ships have a theme huh LMAO. dirkjohn vrisjohn johnrezi all like 'okay john can handle this kid'#'no one else can but john absolutely can'
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they fucken gotted me (just some hand draw doodles for the health forgive the quality)
#shoeneedshelp#im sorey for all the tags#i need monie TwT#shoeâsart#homestuck#homestuck ship#homestuck john#homestuck dave#homestuck karkat#davekat#homestuck rose#john egbert
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Just thinking about how horrid Sophia and Francis are for each other. Francis is so focused on âlove will overcome any problemâ he ignores the absolute massive list of reasons Sophia wouldnât be happy with him - let alone her ânope, youâd be an unsuitable husbandâ. And Sophia knows she wonât ever agree on marrying him but still wants to have whatever relationship they have to go on, even though her entire family is making Francis miserable over it. But instead Francis drives himself into depression spirals over not giving up hope and Sophia accidentally sends him on a suicide mission via âwell if you love me do this dumb thing for meâ
#thinking about Dave K mentioning how she took advantage of Francisâ feelings to make him go look out for Sir John#and deeply regrets it now that itâs likely everyone on those ships is gonna die in the Arctic#as shitty as Lady Jane is about it Sophia really could have been firmer about telling Francis No#and Francis just? He wants his job to be Wifeguy and heâs too focused on all the things he canât have
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holy shit the aliexpress dupe arrived on daves birthday, its a sign
#i did actually buy the official one tho#that one is taking a shit ton of time to arrive is all#i need rhem to make one of dave too so that i can put them together#or john tea bee haytch#or both because cherrypepsicola for the win#is that the ship name ive only seen it like once#homestuck#sleep(i) talk
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Every day I look back at my beta kids road trip fic. Gripping them so tightly I want to write more of this. Any mistakes are a figment of your imagination I edit things before I post them I swear.
#Dave and Rose are insane#I just love the dynamics between the four of them#this would be heavily genfic no ships here I say waving my old man cane at you all#beta kids#fanfic#homestuck#dave strider#rose lalonde#john egbert#jade harley
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Speaking of John, this is his birthday present. It is the project that has been taking up all your time lately. And today is the deadline to finish it! [...] The TRANSMATERIALIZER you have been using to ship it back and forth is wired to sync up your flow of time with hers, so it's not like you can just take forever with it, and send to the exact time she needs it - you've thought of that!
Dang, Jake. Where'd you get the inter-Scratch teleporter?
It's unfortunate that Jake wasn't clued-in on Jade's situation, because he might have been able to teleport her entire team right into his house. That'd certainly have been a lot more straightforward than messing with Fourth Walls, and Dave's time machines could circumvent most of the logistical issues introduced by the time-lock.
At some point in the early 20th century, Jade gave this robo-rabbit to John, and then later it must have been wound up back with Jade... somehow? Then she... uh... removed all the robot parts, hung on to it until she was an old woman, and gave it to you?
Jake's confused, because his theories are based on the false assumption that his pen-pal is his grandmother. It's a perfectly reasonable assumption for him to make, but it's poisoning his speculation, and he has no way to correct the error until he's provided with more information.
Welcome to the Homestuck liveblogging experience, Jake English.
There's just one problem! Mr. Kiser here cannot be completed and tested today without a source of power! [...] You have been plundering all of your devices for uranium to refuel the TRANSMATERIALIZER, which requires huge amounts of power any time it sendificates or appearifies the package from the past. Seems to you like excessive energy consumption for just a simple time machine, but what do you know? Unless it's doing something besides shipping it across time.
Fair enough, I suppose - and anyway, this problem will solve itself later. Once you enter the Medium, you'll be able to alchemize as much fuel as you like.
As much as it troubles your pride to admit, this project wouldn't be possible without help from your other two technologically savvy friends. And you are slowly coming to the regrettable conclusion that you will not be able to solve this uranium dilemma without asking for Strider's assistance.
Wh... why does Little Bro have a chunk of uranium.
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as time goes on my interesting in shipping (for homestuck) (that's really the only fandom i'm in) has just gone down lower and lower because i used to see "shipping" as just "characters who were compatible in some way". for example i would look at karkat and feferi and be like "they didn't interact much but a lot was going on with the two of them in terms of their themes and how those themes intersect. and since romantic relationships are "more complex" or "better" or "more potent" than other relationships the natural progression is to ship them together romantically" but the stuff that would make them potentially interesting as a pairing isn't inherently romantic at all. and i feel like that goes for a lot of if not most of the characters. homestuck to me is way more centered on the idea of friendship (and family sometimes but moreso friendship) than romance and when characters have something important going on between them the interesting part is usually not inherently romantic
even the characters that start dating where their romantic attraction IS very important is based on their initial friendship..!! vrisrezi wouldn't be nearly as meaningful if they weren't friends first, same with dirkjake, etc. arasol is such a popular ship and they only dated once when they were 8 years oldâŚ. their relationship from that point on is SO important to who they are but it isn't even inherently romantic after the fact, but people see romance as the "natural progression" from there so clearly they "should" date once they get the chance to do so again. my point is i wish people would pay more attention to some of the non-romantic aspects of relationships in hs because i really think that's what takes center stage within the story most of the time (not ALL of the time of course there are definitely parts where romance is important. but you get what i'm saying)
and then of course to take that a step further and be even more of a hater i'm so tired of people taking stuff and putting it into a romantic context when it's entirely unnecessaryâŚ. i made a video with dave and karkat bickering and people tagged it as davekat for no reason. literally that post about dirk and john meeting each other that people kept tagging as dirkjohn for no reason. i'll make posts about the alpha kids being friends and doing stuff together and someone went through my entire blog tagging all of these as "alphacule" for no reason. i'll draw dirk and hal literally just looking at each other and someone will tag it as dirkhal. girl they're just looking at each other. seeing someone liveblog collide and they go "did anyone else think dirk and dave should've kissed >_<??" no i actually don't think they would do that. it's so dark in here
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The Fall Out Boy 2001 Demo... and the fact that there's actually two of them!
A few years ago, the wonderful Dave Hofer, who owns the DuPage County Hardcore Archive, uploaded the first Fall Out Boy demo from 2001 onto his archive, revealing its existence to the world. Dave was able to locate both a copy of the CD and the cassette versions of this demo, finding out that limited amounts of CDrs and around 100 cassettes were ever made. The CDr has uncut and unmastered versions of the recordings that later appear on the Project Rocket split, but the cassette contains completely different recordings for the first two songs, while an original song that is found nowhere else called âA Nice Mythâ replaces Moving Pictures. The truth is that these are actually two separate demos: the cassette recordings came first. These demos were both made in 2001. For the first demo, the band consisted of Patrick on vocals, Pete on bass, Joe on guitar, and two other members who only lasted for a short time in the band: Ben Rose on drums, and John Flamadan on rhythm guitar. It was recorded on an 8-track in Benâs basement. That 8-track was later turned into the cassette, of course. Both Ben and John left shortly after, and Jared Logan and TJ Kunasch replaced them on the CDr recordings respectively. What you may not know is there was an even rarer version of the CDr demo made: two types of lathe cuts.
These lathe cuts were posted on Discogs as pictures years before Daveâs discovery, so they sat dormant and undiscovered by FOB fans for a long time. After researching the cassettes and CDs for our archive, we stumbled upon these pictures and were perplexed that nobody has mentioned this version elsewhere before. Although this was not really a ânewâ discovery, we were still intrigued. We contacted the uploader of the picture, and this is what he had to say:
Hey!! Yeah it's honestly a crazy story on how I acquired it, but I believe it's legit. Basically, a few years back (I think 2018 or 19? The listing on the page for the clear version that sold for $0.50 or something crazy was from me, that's how I bought it). I messaged a guy on here that had the CD added in his collection if he would be willing to send me the mp3s/WAV files for his copy, and he did. We talked for a bit about the band and he said I seemed knowledgeable about the band and asked if I wanted his second copy of the lathe (he had two, one clear, one black). I obviously was like "hell yeah dude" and he said he would ship it to me. Fast forward a few weeks (he lived in Australia or some shit) and low & behold, I actually got the damn thing in the mail, plus two promo trading cards from the TTTYG album cycle, one with Andy & one with Joe. A few years later he messaged me that he got in touch with the dude that made the lathes for the band (he was based in Chicago which makes sense). Apparently 26 copies were cut & only 20 got labels thrown on them, members of the band slapped them on themselves. They were only in white paper sleeves, not any picture sleeves unfortunately. The sound quality on them is actually pretty decent for a lathe made in 2001, which is what leads me to believe it's legit. Also, like you had mentioned, the songs didn't leak until a few years back, when I got it I had never heard these versions (it's just the Project Rocket split versions uncut & unmastered essentially, same versions as the ones that leaked from the CD version. That is pretty much all the info I have on it, I hoped that helped some!!
Cheers from Florida - Jake
He later followed up with:
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the guy I got it from got both the clear and black copies verified to be legit by the guy that made them. Also small detail I forgot to include before, he obtained both copies through a lot of FOB merch from eBay. He was looking to get a complete set of TTTYG trading cards, which is why he bought it. But I know in the lot he also got the two lathes & a demo CD, I forget what else he had mentioned. It's odd that the band hasn't spoken of their existence, maybe they forgot? The lathes were probably more of a novelty item than anything, considering that vinyl wasn't very popular in 2001 & they weren't packaged as "properly" as the CDs & tapes, plus they made a lot less of them. I'm assuming they just kinda got tossed around between friends of the band or got sold at random at their early shows. Either way, it's been one of my prized possessions since I've acquired it, let me know if hou have any other questions on it haha
Currently we have no idea who this elusive Chicago lathe maker is, but maybe we may find out one day. These lathe cuts may possibly be the rarest FOB merch in existence.
Side note: The fact that the top title on the cassette specific insert says "Fallout Boy - Growing Up" and then later lists Growing Up as a song below, it may have been intended to be the title of the cassette, and the song was a title track. This is unconfirmed though.
#fall out boy#joe trohman#patrick stump#pete wentz#andy hurley#fob#chicago hardcore#evening out with your girlfriend#eowyg#fob patrick#fob pete#fallout boy#fob andy#fob joe
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part 1 of something specific
TG: oh my god you get it
CG: OF COURSE I FUCKING DO, DAVE. IâLL ALLOW MYSELF CREDIT FOR ONE GOOD THING, AND THATâS THE FACT THAT I KNOW HOW TO CONSUME MEDIA CORRECTLY.
TG: you understand me
TG: so many damn times ive tried to turn john over on this business and he doesnt listen
TG: like you dont need to be gay to see how naruto and sasuke are the romance of the fuckin century man its not rocket science dare i say it is elementary levelÂ
CG: ITâS BASIC READING COMPREHENSION, I AGREE.
CG: IâM NOT ABOUT TO EVEN *TRY* TO UNDERSTAND EARTHâS BIASES TO CERTAIN FORMS OF ROMANCE, BUT IS IT LITERALLY JUST BECAUSE THEYâRE BOTH GUYS?
TG: i dunno i dont think hes like
TG: homophobic or something
TG: i think if anyone is the number one ally to anything its probably john yknow hed have your back bro if you were all up and being bisexual on earth and people werent scrambling hand over foot away from you because youre an alienÂ
TG: but just because you were thatÂ
TG: thing
TG: bisexual
CG: YEAH, THAT THING.
TG: he wouldnt care man
TG: he wouldnt give a shit or fuck about it probably
CG: SPEAKING OF LABELS THOUGH!
TG: aw man are you about to pull out the quadrant shiz on my boys
TG: are you gonna tell me naruto and sasuke got a hate on for each other or something cus thatsÂ
CG: OH JEGUS NO, DAVE. THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT OF THEIR RELATIONSHIPâS GROWTH AND THEIR ENTIRE DYNAMIC, NEVERMIND THE PURPOSE OF THE STORY ITSELF.
TG: alright lay it on me shercock homos ill be your watson watching you with the big twinkling eyes of a newborn fawn
TG: sleuth this shit like you were there when kishimoto invented it
TG: his alien understudy rises from the caverns of anime hell clutching the scroll of one universally understood truth and with his otaku disciples there to listen he takes a deep breath and delivers his groundquaking sermon to the masses
TG: jesus take the mic
CG: IâM CLUTCHING THE MICROPHONE IN MY CALLOUSED AND BONE-DRY TOUCHSTUMPS, BODY WEARY AND ON THE BRINK OF CAVING IN ON ITSELF, BUT I SPEAK WITH A STALWART DETERMINATION THAT WILL RING TRUE THROUGHOUT THE COSMOS FOR SWEEPS TO COME. THEY WILL WRITE MY FUCKING WORDS IN THE STARS, DAVE. ITâLL BE ALL THEY HAVE LEFT OF ME EVENTUALLY, BECAUSE IâLL PREACH IT HARD AND FEVERISH UNTIL THIS MORTAL COIL DECIDES ITâS FINALLY HAD ENOUGH OF PUTTING MY PATHETIC HALF-CORPSE THROUGH THE RINGER BY MAKING ME GET UP EVERY MORNING LIKE ITâS SOME KIND OF JOKE, AND FINALLY LETS ME KEEL OVER. THAT, DAVE, IS MY CRUCIFIXION. IT REPEATS ITSELF, OUROBOROS-LIKE, EVERY CYCLE, AND MAY WELL LAST UNTIL THE COLLAPSE OF PARADOX SPACE ITSELF SINCE THEY APPARENTLY FIND IT SO INCREDIBLY HILARIOUS. THEY BETTER MARTYR THE FUCK OUT OF ME. YOU BETTER PERSONALLY SEE TO IT THAT I AM MARTYRED TO *SHIT*.
TG: done and done
CG: THANK YOU. WHERE WAS I? OH RIGHT. NARUTO SHIP ANALYSIS.
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just scrolled through your hs2:oot tag, looks great looking forward to it! ^^
yeah about that...
my interest in homestuck other than certain factors of it has been dead for a while. I dont think i have the motivation for it and desire to see that storyline through.
HOWEVER.
Since its.. on permanent hiatus. I suppose i can just spoil the entire storyline and the determined outcomes of the entire thing? So click below if you wanted to see how THAT story goes.
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HS2:OOT was to take place at the end of the long hiatus of hs2. After crocker targets johns house and burns it to the ground, jake comes back and finds the house, burning. BGD appears to torment Jake, arguing over fault, their relationship, and whether BGD is really saying what dirk would say. BGD also makes mention of the "cosmic asshole in space". As tensions rise, they reach a point where BGD decides to nope the fuck out and kill himself to detach himself from jake.
(ill add the pnale reference in a bit)
Jake has a breakdown.
After the breakdown, Jake seeks out john. john has just exited roxy and calliopes house (again this took place after the great pause, everything that came out this year-ish wasnt around) and talk over issues, concluding that things HAVE been off. For a long time now. That they have to do something, but what?
Hesitantly, Jake asks about Johns retcon powers. They deliberate, John hesitant even though they are "off canon" these are still their friends. They go back and forth on this before john argues that he doesnt even know WHERE to retcon to. Yet they still give it a try. MEANWHILE.. CRUSIING THROUGH PARADOX SPACE AT THE SPEED OF WHATEVER...
A SHIP GOES DARK. DAVEBOT: hey is it getting dark in here or what DAVEBOT: what the fuck is happening ARADIA: oh dear we've run out of time DAVEBOT: no no fuck this wasnt supposed to happen shit. DAVEBOT: aradia the fuck are you talking about ARADIA: we've run out of time, i'm sorry dave. DAVEBOT: i thought doomed timelines were for the game only DAVEBOT: the whole fucking point of this was that we were going to get out DAVEBOT: we were supposed to get out DAVEBOT: shit callie what the hells going on
Jades body stiffens and falls limp.
Retconning without purpose brings them to a blank space. Specifically, the black hole in which alt calliope resides. And man is she PISSED. Shes vague, condescending, and focuses on the fact they were "comfortable" and "safe". This is met by profuse denials, they want things to happen and "hasnt nothing been happening enough?"
CALLIOPE: The page and the heir were to remain. JOHN: ok. shut up.
[bickering later ]
JOHN: ok, i don't really care though, because clearly none of this is right!! this is the most garbage i've ever heard!!! They argue and bicker, and even fight somewhat. Calliope kicks their asses royally, and yet their defiance raises an eyebrow. They decide to do a trade deal. Calliope will grant them a set amount of time and they must defeat or at least put a stop to Jakes cosmic ex. If they fail to do that, she will take ultimate control and send them all back.
Calliope sends them back to a point before dave ascended and before the wormhole closed. Its a bright sunny day, and jake appears a little bit after john does. When asked, he said that calliope was asking him for something. John doesnt ask what.
John asks out of the blue if they can head to karkats house. When asked why, he talks about johns situation and the guilt he vaguely references from their last conversation. karkat isnt fully part of the revolution yet, and since the happy nuptials of jade and dave, hes been staying home and bedrotting. Isolated from human society and the new troll society, he prefers it that way as he lacks aim or purpose.
They ask for his help, explaining their situation. "We need your help beating my cosmic ex." "WHAT THE FUCK SORT OF COCAINE DID YOU TWO DO. THAT SOUNDS LIKE BULLSHIT. REPEAT WHAT THE FUCK YOU SAID TO YOUR LOCAL PSYCHOLOGIST." He also goes into the whole "thing with dave" (writing by august)
Karkat isnt budging, bringing up multiple points on why he shouldnt go, even if what theyre saying is true. This could really honestly be a cosmic fuck over. So when in doubt, reverse psych it out. John nonchalantly says ok, thats fine. We are going to respect your decision here. And karkat gets mad. REALLY. REALLY. MAD.
They end up reverse psychologying him into thinking its a personal FAVOUR that hes doing them by making sure they dont asphyxiate on dead air in space. Karkat and john talk about stuff happening, while Jake says he has to run a few errands. Karkat bringing up more questions about how easily john is doing this, john fumbling but probing more into what this pre-revolution karkat thinks to try and understand what the other karkat was on about. Jake returns, and the ship is ready to go.
this music
[Cue flash that shows the ship, then the town zooming out as. callback to when janes house entered the medium, and then zoom in on the ship as it takes off, entering through the wormhole into paradox space. Sollux on the roof gets blown over by the breeze, watching them. Inside the wormhole, Jake celebrates and highfives John before walking out, leaving karkat behind as he stares up into the soaring heavens. The perspective switches to the front of jakes ship, showing that its more reminiscent of a large battleship before it switches to dirks ship, flying through space he looks up at the screen. Slow pan over the members of the cast going to be relevant, terezi in front of a board of pinned papers and threads, rose watering plants, a timelapse of jakes ship and its occupants setting up and personallising the space. Alt calliope, davebot, the meat crew. etc. Cut to black and fade in text: HS2:OOT]
Ill put more later. But that was all of act one. maybe ill put up act two and other plotpoints later in another post along with the exclusive business.
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My Homestuck shipping take that would get me thrown in Fandom Jail is that I think Dave/John is canon, it's just not reciprocated and is only really applicable to early Homestuck, and that's where and how it works best. I honest to god do not think it works as a reciprocal romantic relationship. This is because John is not interested in them, and this is Dave's bisexual awakening that he's too afraid to act on.
Dave would not be comfortable in a relationship with John. I personally think he needs the fantasy of it more than he wants an actual relationship with him. There's inherent weight and value in non-reciprocal relationships/feelings, too. It's important for Dave that he feels the way he does, but that does not mean it would be a good idea or constructive to act on those feelings. It's all exploratory thoughts, and those are extremely valuable to the development of one's relationship with their queerness.
#homestuck#homestuck analysis#homestuck meta#beta kids#dave strider#john egbert#davejohn#johndave#hammertime.ship#john.pdf#dave.pdf#nekro.pdf#nekro.txt
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85 things I love in Hamilton:
When a line of a song repeats on another song but slightly different or the exact same in a slightly different context or the exact same with the same context ("Look around look around" by Eliza vs by Alex, "I'm helpless" in Helpless vs Non-stop vs Say no to this)
The way it sounds like Lin is spitting on the P's in "My time's uP, wise uP, eyes uP"
How everyone agrees that Lafayette let his hair loose after Yorktown and that if he put it on a ponytail again Hamilton would react the same way Doofenschmirtz does with Perry and his hat
Everyone seems to agree Laurens should go running to be with Angelica, Eliza and Maria when they sing "Me? I loved him"
Daveed Diggs
The historical inaccuracy making songs even better (example: "How the sausage gets made" sung in 1790's when sausages were brought in the 1800's. Philip dying before the election of 1800 and in July when he actually died in November of 1801. Burr being Charles' second.)
Being able to tell which song is which even when they start off the same (alexander hamilton, guns and ships and winter's ball) by slight differences
"Can we agree that duels are dumb and immature?" *sends a letter wanting to duel* "All he had to do was die. We ought give it a try." *kills Alex*
"I was chosen for the constitutional convention! :D"
Aaron's voice and expressions
"Wheeeee!" -Charles Lee
Animatics vs The actual musical (example: the king dancing in the animatic, him standing with a death stare in the musical)
Hamilton being happy he finally has friends
The dance in My Shot
Lafayette and Hercules dancing
Hercules showing off his pants
Lafayette flexing his muscles
John Laurens screaming passionately in the "shout it from the rooftops" part
Angelica's voice and expressions
John looking like he's checking Ham out
The difference between the musical and the studio recording, specifically the pauses that for me sound like they're trying to regain some breath to continue singing
Hercules as the flower girl
The foreshadowing (?) ("I may not live to see our glory" *dies*/ *doesn't count to ten in French* *dies because his opponent didn't count to ten*)
Peggy getting distracted by John in Schuyler Sisters
"my dog speaks more eloquently than thee"
"You don't have the votes ha-ha-ha"
Ham stopping his dance and fixing his jacket when Philip enters in Helpless
King George literally spitting in You'll be back
*Philip dies, Ham is mourning* "Can we get back to politics đ. Who you gon' vote for?"
When they're waiting for their turn on the song (Ham behind the king before Right Hand Man. John and Laf on the stairs behind Washington in "Your excellency, sir")
Washington's voice
The backup dancers they're literally so good
Ham: making a plan. Hercules: BRAH
Ham pushing Laf away so he could talk with Angelica
HAMILTON WROTE THE OTHER 51
#Hamilton#hamilton musical#alexander hamilton#john laurens#marquis de lafayette#Lafayette#george washington#eliza schuyler#angelica schuyler#aaron burr#hercules mulligan#thomas jefferson#james madison#philip hamilton#I love so many things that I had to change some things for it to fit the joke#Charles Lee#peggy schuyler#king george iii
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