#she's the sage of SPIRIT

[lelourai]

Linktober Day 13: spirit/ghost/phantom

[figofswords]

planning a zelda dnd game with some friends yknow how it is

[cara-the-yiga-footsoldier]

Very tired today, just finished moving so don't know if I'll be drawing today but maybe I will soon. If not I will just post past drawings!

Like this, I drew this last night and never posted it, so I will now

[ness-illustration]

Get in the Mineru Link.

[apopcornkernel]

TOT: “I've heard a lot about you. Charlie was quite fond of you.” HELENA: “Charlie?” TOT: “Vic. Vic Sage?” (The Question: Pipeline. Chapter 2, Part 1)

no one touch me rn.

[autumnoakes]

can i say it now?

sage of time/time powers didn't make sense for totk zelda. at ALL.

when in botw, before the calamity, in aoc, did she EVER show an affinity for time powers? i get that it was like this sort of. hidden power kind of thing, but it still doesn't make much sense. not for zelda.

[molassified-minipak]

enjoying the idea of keeping the hero's spirit in storage

[gaymollusc]

I CANNOT be the only one who thought this

[blueskittlesart]

100% agree with you about the new hyrule theory in regards to totk. both adult and fallen timeline basically end with og hyrule getting destroyed so whatever handwavy time magic recombined the timelines makes perfect sense to me. i know hylia is a retroactive late addition to the lore but her being a time goddess solves basically ever linearity question ever 😭 why doesnt time break when link creates a paradox with the song of storms? goddess magic. next question.

REAL. confirming the sage of time theory was the smartest thing totk devs did because now whenever they fuck up the timeline they can just be like. time goddess powers fixed it. next question.

[science-lings]

Sage of Spirit Link sounds fun! Is Link gonna be able to see the champions? I’ve seen people do that before but also technically they haven’t died yet but also ???

And for Sage of Time I only have one really important question- is Rauru becoming the plot device now/j

But for real the co-op adventure sounds like so much fun and how Link wakes up is like a cherry on top

I’d say tag me for the Sonia art however I am but an anon 😔/lh - 🌸

They can see the champions! And use their powers! While they haven't died in the past, their souls have been connected to Links since they freed them from the divine beasts, even if they lost the use of the champions gifts between botw and totk. So while Link travels to the past, their spirits are a part of theirs so they kind of just come with them.

yes, I'm fridging Rauru, at least in the Sage of Time version of the au lol. Sonia needs some time to shine and I think she would be very cool if she wasn't just 'Rauru's hot wife that dies'

Honestly, I have loved the idea of Zelda being a companion back when everyone was theorizing about what totk would be. So I'm glad that even if I have to sacrifice SoT Link's dragon storyline to let him play around with protag!Zelda. I think they should be allowed to kick ass together.

With how I'm going, I might get done with the Sonia drawing today! I'm done with the largest parts but her outfit has so many little details and I love rendering so that's going to take a little while lol. We'll see I guess. I will reblog it here and several times over the day bc I crave attention.

[three-bunnies-in-a-trenchcoat]

I still can't believe they did that to Paya

[divineprank]

I have been super busy and I will continue to be super busy, but have a Nabooru that I drew in the meantime ♥

[the-game-spirit]

I have been going so insane over the zelda timeline regarding totk like I am LOSING my mind

like. either 1. botw/totk is a completely new continuity. worst option. boring.

2. it is SO FAR in the future of the (probably downfall) timeline and there has been SO MUCH canon-typical time bullshit in between that the other two either bleed over OR the ever-funny hyrule warrior's convergence theory happens that it may as well be just a soft reboot and history is just. repeating endlessly. also kind of boring imho

OR 3. totk memories happen sometime after skyward sword. interesting. also a completely fucking insane idea.

it's a misconception that SS zelda and link founded hyrule! they almost certainly didn't!

did the zonai make the timeshift stuff in SS? the tower of the gods in WW? the ooccoo? a fascinating concept!

what about the triforce? who knows! i don't think minish cap has anything to do with it either and it does get sealed away at some point sooooo

but more importantly

is there a fucking dehydrated ganondorf sealed away underground for every single zelda game

most people would be like, 'no, of course not, thats so stupid how does oot ganondorf exist if totk ganondorf is in hand jail already' and 'ganondorf has a history of reincarnation/revival but that can't happen if he's still alive ya dingus' and normally I would agree! I did agree! I've been scratching my head trying to make this work since I started playing totk

except!!! except!!!!!! we have literally already seen this happen before!!!!

so. skyward sword.

skyward sword is a closed loop time travel story. I cannot stand when people try to shoehorn another timeline split in SS because no split happens. that's the point. that was hylia's plan. the first hero? before skyward sword link? hylia's chosen knight that defeated demise? that was always skyward sword link in the past. demise even confirms this in dialog. something something he's 'never seen a hylian stand up to him before.' idk the exact quote but it Very Much Implies demise has never encountered any incarnation of link before.

so. how do we kill the imprisoned (demise) in the future and then go back and kill demise again in the past in a closed loop?

because we seal demise's consciousness in the sword, and his body in the ground

the imprisoned is clearly mindless. even more mindless than downfall timeline ganon post-resurrection. it has one single goal, which is to reach the temple and.... the master sword. with the consciousness of demise sealed within.

we have confirmation that two versions of the demon king can, technically, exist entirely separate from eachother.

it isn't a stretch to think that if his body is sealed away, effectively dead and unable to spread his malice, that the spirit of demise's hatred (if its not sealed with the sword, like in totk) would reincarnate until the time comes that the seal weakens enough (the first calamity) that it doesn't need to.

obviously there are still problems here like. where are the rito? (personally I think they just fuck off to hebra, which only barely exists in any other game, and I wholeheartedly believe the WW rito are a completely different species)

if totk ganondorf is sealed under the castle before oot, but the great plateau is implied oot castle town, why didn't we find dehydrated dorf there? uuuuuuuhhhhhhh next question

(listen the great plateau doesn't really match up with oot castle town anyway, no other details really match, definitely not the typical 'death mountain to the north(east), lake hylia down south' geography we usually see)

is rauru totk and rauru oot the same or different? zelda actually calls the sages 'ancient creators of hyrule' in oot, and since rauru is the only actually ancient one there.... uh. its entirely possible! why does he look hylian in oot? uhhhhhh? magic? because seeing some giant talking goat person that has never been seen before might not inspire trust in the traumatized monster-fighting 9 year-old-turned-16-year-old. also isnt oot rauru ALSO the owl? its been a LONG time since I played oot so I genuinely don't know if I just made that up but if so the guy has a history of changing form I guess

honestly I think we do have to allow for a certain level of handwavy 'new game' leeway, just like we do with EVERY game, in order to make this work. the map is always different. some things are introduced that have never once been heard of before in any other game. some things DONT exist that have in other games. some things are so different they're nearly unrecognizable. there are little easter eggs and no, they don't always have to mean something.

[appleimps]

Every day I wish Zelda wasnt sent to the past in totk and instead wound up trapped in the underground with the Yiga and had to disguise herself as Sheik. Give the Yiga a bigger role in totk so that she had a reason to stay and hide amongst them-- researching tech with the Yiga and sussing out their plans with Ganon. That Kohga never got to meet Ganon even once is such wasted potential 😔💔

[raymoo--hackery]

The dumb bird app is homophobic and this is doing terribly, so time to post this to Tumblr :)

I’ve been suffering extreme doresagu brainrot yesterday so I drew smth and wrote smth :))

[dcndrohime]

Not me thinking how much i value the dynamic between Hinamori and any muses in her currents zelda verses, TOTK especially.