#she’s an ads person tho so i guess that is against their training lol
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new person at work trying to peer pressure me into doing a charity 5k after i already told her no i don’t want to and it is starting to annoy me so bad!!!!!
#first of all not a runner and there are many ways i can support a charity and esp this charity without having to do that#but okay for context it’s for the ronald mcdonald house and she was like#i’m just going to start bringing in photos of the kids they help and leave them on your desk like ????? WTF?#i know she’s like joking with that but girl why would you even say that#idk sometimes you do have to learn how to take no for an answer#she’s an ads person tho so i guess that is against their training lol#she’s been here for like a week and she’s nice and all but also she is annoying and she talks SO MUCH when i am trying to work#also the other day she ordered greek food and she like made her mission to ‘educate’ the office on greek food which was so frustrating#like girl we live in a city with a massive greek/mediteranean/middle eastern population#the chances that most of us have been exposed to this kind of food before is HIGH#second of all you ordered cava like it’s barely even anything foreign at all#it’s just like tiny things like that drive me nuts#anyways weigh in team should i explode her with my mind or learn forgiveness and peace and grace
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spoiler free thoughts on mugen train movie: it was great!! stunning animation, great new soundtrack, great voice performances (i watched subbed) paced the story really well. i went in with high expectations and wasn't let down! 10/10 can't wait for everyone to get the chance to watch it :D
spoilers (and more in depth) under the cut:
wanna say that i am being Incredibly nit-picky in some of this. the movie was truly amazing and i enjoyed every second of it. i'm just gonna graze through the manga chapters the movie covered to help myself remember / point out what i liked / disliked
the second demon rengoku killed on the train i didn’t really think was necessary? i think maybe they were just trying to fill up more time, have it make more sense why tanjiro & crew liked / thought rengoku was so cool (it did give rengoku a better chance to show off his power and skill to them for the first time)
the animation used to rengoku’s flames was GORGEOUS (of course) it looked so beautiful
the dream sequences were done so well!! honestly zenitsu’s dream was super cute and boss inosuke’s and his minions.. inosuke you are so important to me i hope he knows that. THANK GOD for shiny acorns!!! genuinely one of my fav parts in the manga it’s so cute and silly i love seeing inosuke being friends with nezuko
senjurou sounded Nothing like how i’ve been imagining his voice up to this point. i’ve always read his voice as very soft like a younger child since he’s so young and has a kinder nature, so i’m not gonna lie i was a little thrown off by that lol
tanjiro pulling himself into the water in his dream was so beautifully done honestly that was one of my fav scenes just bc it was so pretty
i was pretty upset that the detail about rengoku's spiritual core being brittle was left out, i feel like that's such a Huge detail about his character (since we only get to know him for such a short amount of time) maybe it was mentioned in the film and im just forgetting
nezuko's flames burning around tanjiro during his dream looked So Beautiful i was truly just awed throughout the whole film by how beautiful the animation was
tanjiro’s youngest brother crying when he was trying to leave the dream crushed me honestly that got the water works going lol i know the big moment of that scene was nezuko but; someone in the theater gasped Really loud when nezuko showed up in tanjiro's dream and it added so much drama lol so thank u to that person for upping the emotion
this whole part was the Real tear jerker of the movie^
i wish this scene had more been More? idk i was really looking forward to how this scene would end up in the movie and it was really just tanjiro screaming and then showed blood on the snow. i know it was shown multiple times later during the fight with enmu but. was hoping for something more i guess! esp i think the first time showing it should've been a Big Deal idk
during this scene tho i Loved that there was like a piano version of kamado tanjiro no uta and also a piano / softer version of gurenge; idk which played during these scene but i heard and picked up on both and really loved that
on another soundtrack note: the clarinet (or maybe bass clarinet) that played for what im guessing was enmu's theme was sooo good congrats to any composer that can get me to enjoy the clarinet lol
tanjiro's dream subconsciousness was sooo beautiful and so were the little fire spirits that lived there i think it continued to perfectly capture tanjiro's kindheartedness
tanjiro's nightmare was also so well done. i thought that was one of the best part of the movie tbh
actually my biggest complaint about the movie was how awkward and out of place the 3D / CGI looked compared to season 1 of the anime. the "guts" inside the train just looked really gross and poorly done
[anime vs manga comparison] (also my friend said that enmu made him think of orochimaru LOL)
another thing was the train being covered with enmu's flesh or guts after their head was cut off just looked so gross and weird, i wish that hadn't been changed / added in the movie
and with the weird / gross looking 3D it made tanjiro and inosuke's fight together to find enmu's neck just a little rough to watch. i think it would've been better if there wasn't so much of enmu's flesh all over the train
i wish this had been shown in the movie since it didn't make it into the story of the manga. the movie just showed nezuko burning inosuke and zenitsu with her fire (which is how she woke tanjiro up, so i guess it makes sense that it would work for those two as well)
after enmu was defeated i thought it was insane how clear of an image of kokushibo we got!!! we've only (barely) seen silhouettes of him up to this point in the anime, and since we also got such a clear picture of daki (with season 2 on the way) it makes me excited to think that we will see him in season 2 as well (along with the other upper moons; and hopefully get the whole series animated lol)
the fight against akaza was outstanding and amazing. truly have no words lol. unfortunately i missed a small part of the fight bc i had to go use the bathroom (my friend said i missed the coolest part of their fight) but akaza looked SO GOOD and the fight was so well animated and i Loved akaza's voice - not how i had been imaging his voice but it still fit him so well (wasn't such a major difference like with senjurou lol) and the music that played during their fight was great. the purposeful silence in some parts of their fight was perfectly placed to make it more tense and emotional (also rengoku blocking akaza's punches with his sword. king shit)
i really liked this detail, both with enmu and akaza, that their screams are apparently So Loud, i guess that's something you dont really pick up when you're reading
when rengoku's mother showed up and inosuke started crying that's what really did it in for me lol i tried to keep myself from crying too hard / loud in the theater but i know once i watch it alone im gonna be bawling
where the movie chose to end was really interesting to me. i thought for sure the movie was going to include tanjiro's visit to senjurou so im a little surprised that that's being held off until season 2. it really will make it mandatory for anime viewers to watch the movie before starting season 2
anyways if you read all of this ily and i am kissing you <3
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UMMM I would love to know what exactly happened with xnine too if you know??
i didn’t know how to answer this without hating on long danni but... that’s not possible when you’re talking about xnine
CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG IN ANY WAY @ DIMPLES AND CFANS
tldr ceo addicted to producing survival shows realizes boy group is incapable of feeding her fat rabbit because of her OWN mismanagement and throws them away (literally? probably not, maybe, idk)
HOLY SHIT THIS BECAME RLY LONG IM BEGGING KEEP READING TO WORK LO LOL LOL
long danni= wjjw company ceo
wjjw=company that xnine, xz, r1se, etc are under
huo mala: fat company rabbit that WILL give u nightmares goodness gracious thinking about him sends chills down my spine
alright so long danni (ldn i will refer to her) & ee media along w/ tencent and sm made the survival show x-fire... the premise of xfire was that 16 contestants split into two different teams (white and red) and then at the end it would boil down to each team having 4 members and the winning team would debut as a group called xfire...but wait...the group’s name is xnine? so out of red team (peng chuyue, baishu, xiao zhan, xia zhiguang) and white team(wu jiacheng, gu jiacheng, zhao lei, and guo zifan) white team won...and they unofficially debuted as xfire..went abroad to train yadda yadda yadda and then a few months later, TELL ME WHY LONG DANNI DECIDES TO RELEASE POLLS TO LET FANS VOTE IN 5 MEMBERS INTO XFIRE TO CREATE XNINE! ldn PLEASE if u wanted to rig the show you should’ve decided in the beginning what was the point of making the teams and the fans fight against each other...
so yeah xz and crew weren’t actually supposed to debut according to show rules...i mean i’m glad they debuted obviously bc x9 is x9 but ee media and frickin ldn couldve handled this better...like every member except chen molerat is amazing and great but....WHY DIDNT MaNAGEMENT NOT BLATANTLY RIG THEM INTO THE GROUP
but also thank u ldn for also letting us get to know the 4 guys who were added n not chen molerat <3 but like DO UR JOB PROPERLY
anyway the polls were RIGGED obviously thanks ldn what did u expect out of making POLLS, and xiao zhan, peng chuyue, xia zhiguang, yan xujia, and chen z*** were added to the group to create xnine...talk about rigged when chen z*** the molerat lookin turdface misogynist was added... anyway at the time he wasnt known to be problematic but ya the whole rigging thing caused a whole rift esp when x9 debuted bc there were fanwars and death threats initially but xfire did well because it was one of the (if not only) survival shows at that time and x9 debuted w/ a good response etc
then they got moved to wjjw (still owned by ldn thanks ldn) and wjjw is known for hoarding artists and not promoting them (THEY HAVE LIKE 45 ARTISTS BUT WERE FORMED 3 YEARS AGO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE) and not being promoted properly was EXACTLY what happened to xnine. as idols what they needed was music promotions, variety shows, etc stuff to get them as people out there but this genius ldn decided to promote them through stupid zodiac dramas like super star academy (to promote xfire finalists) and oh my emperor (which was an xnine drama). now i haven’t watched OME, but SSA gave me enough brain rot and gunk for me to not watch OME. (the only person who could act was baishu), and the story was SO BAD. nevermind the acting, because the boys weren’t initially slated to be actors, but the story was horrible, girl without superpowers suddenly becomes white cult goddess at the end??? WHAT???????? why didn’t ldn just promote them normally !!!!!! are they an actor group or an idol group???? I LOVE XNINE, THEY ARE TALENTED ARTISTS !!!! and eventually some went into acting (xz, guo zifan, gu jiacheng) BUT WAS THAT THE TIME DLFNJNF and then they just kept getting sent into random dramas and movies as random side characters instead of being able to make music and promote????? i’m sorry i’ve been stuck on using dramas to promote x9 for a while because that’s such a SILLY IDEA *vigorously shakes head*
ldn knows how to do survival shows but she doesn’t know how to promote her artists thanks ldn. xnine has so much talented, we know xiao zhan is a great singer, but other main vocalists like wu jiacheng, zhao lei, and peng chuyue are amazing as welll, here’s me plugging this video of zl and pcy performing their self-written song on produce camp because it’s the most beautiful thing ever
-oh yeah somewhere in here insert chen molerat getting outed as a pedo misogynist cheater by his gf who still has the audacity to have xnine in his weibo name because xnine starting to get popular gtfo rat lookin ass i WILL barf, when we say ot8 xnine we mean xnine w/o chen toadratass but sometimes ppl think it’s xnine minus xz which is untrue-
they also have talented rappers (gu jiacheng yan xujia) and dancers (xia zhiguang guo zifan) like xia zhiguang can end me with his spinning flying kick thing and i WILL let him
so YEAH !! TALENT that went to waste because wjjw gave them weird random hiatuses and kept pushing them as actors??? seriously what is with this actor stuff...so that’s why they debuted in 2016 and have very little discography to their name because wjjw just gave up...trying to promote them GOD thank u so much ldn for ur incomptency <3333 xnine had members in diff stages of life (ranging from xz who was born in 91, to yan xujia born in 2001, they were all close tho soo cute) and wjjw really was like nope we’re not gonna try to promote yall’s dreams of becoming singers on the stage because they couldn’t add 34783473 pounds to fat huo mala’s weight
so ya a lot of people are like omg wjjw hates xiao zhan!!! ya no they hate all of xnine but now xz is bringing enough money to make huo mala even fatter so good for huo mala i guess /s
also rumors and any bad media? lol wjjw doesn’t care they do a shit job at handling bad things too WHAT A WELLROUNDED COMPANY
OH ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW THYE HAD 3 DAYS TO PREPARE FOR A CONCERT???????????? WHAT????????? wjjw u mfs
anyway to summarize my rants above wjjw did a SHIT job of promoting xnine as idols when the boys worked so hard and wjjw kept tryna push them to acting bye (some of them can’t act and literally don’t WANT TO ACT HHHSFLNF), wjjw is also horrible at letting all of the xnine members shine when as i mentioned before, they’re ALL TALENTED!!!! and then they just gave up on xnine somewhere in 2017-2018... ok anyway so is xnine disbanded? no although some may say their last concert in dec 2018 was their last concert ever they’re not disbanded
xiao zhan , gu jiacheng, and guo zifan went into acting
wu jiachang is focusing on his music etc (he was actually the first member of xnine i came across when i watched the collaboration/cyzj in 2018...yes carats this is That wu jiacheng!!!) MAN CAN SING
peng chuyue, zhao lei, xia zhiguang, yan xujia all went on produce camp 2019 (aNOTHER SURVIVAL SHOW BC THEY WANTED TO BE ON THE MF STAGE BC THATS WHY THEYRE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE WJJW) along w/ fellow labelmates zhou zhennan and zhai xiao wen ... and everyone but peng chuyue made it to the final 11 spots and got to debut in the group r1se...UNFORTUNATELY ALSO UNDER WJJW HELP SEND HELP
if they’re in r1se does that mean they quit xnine? no! they’re in both that’s just how survival shows work it’s kind of weird
peng chuyue recently released a song and it’s really good and you can’t not tell me that it’s gay here it is
anyway xnine hasn’t disbanded!! the X玖少年团 (xnine) in the non-r1se members’ weibo names say that loud n clear!!! and when the r1se members from xnine won produce camp 2019, they all made xnine signs SO XNINE IS ALIVE and they do keep in contact!!
why haven’t we seen blatant public interactions btwen xiao zhan and the xnine members? because some frickin annoying xz solo stans/xfx claim that the other members use xz for popularity (HELLO??????? IN WHAT WORLD DOES THAT MAKE SENSE HALF OF THEM R LITERALLY HIS KIDS BUT OK)
anyway in conclusion wjjw doesn’t know how to promote any of their artists, thus screwing over xnine members and making them go on a group hiatus where they focus on acting/singing/r1se for r1se members but they are very much xnine as of now !!!
here’s some REALLY GOOD RESOURCES to follow xnine bc as an ifan it’s mf hard
-xnine slideshow
-xnine faq
-xnine eng sub channel by yuer
-all of that content i listed above was made/subbed by one person and she is the queen of uhh...xnine international fandom outreach (????) how do i word it but she’s been subbing and spreading xnine long before xiao zhan’s popularity skyrocketed so go follow her for updates and memes here
-xnine intl fanbase twt and tumblr
-and here’s this twt account with dumb pics of xnine because why not
also i’m pretty sure there’s a wip video explaining x9′s history being created (by yuer because queen) so when that’s posted i’ll rb this and post it here
also here’s this video dragging wjjw
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A New Hero Ch 22
AO3: https://archiveofourown.org/works/20887313/chapters/63998701
Taglist: @bluesimani
Ok, so here’s the next chap for the fic!! This is going surprisingly quickly considering I have classes. Any delays that happen now r due to my sisters cat comin over and cuddling me preventin me from workin lol. Lol. Anyways, here’s the next chap, I do hope you enjoy this next chap!
“Ok, so you really do know more about this….I thought Xan was bluffing about at least Mari knowing,” Lana said looking at the two in front of her in shock. Damian had put on the mask he wore as Robin and showed her the weapons he carried on his personal 24/7. Mari just transformed into Ladybug and then transformed. “But how come you revealed your identities to me?” she asked figuring Xan only knew from an accident or they told him when he doubted they could help him from what happened(it was easy to guess Damian before he told him YES he was Robin, and Ladybug ya, probably an accident but purposeful).
The two shared a look before looking at her once more. “Well, we can see that your not going to stop training to do what Damian and I do. So we might as well help you. Both in and out of the uniform. I’ll help you two get the right items for your suits,” Mari said smiling gently at Lana which she returned. Damian clapped Xan on the shoulder and nodded.
“Not to mention, what you’re planning is quite noble. It would help us so that we can focus on gangs and the big boys when they escape,” Damian added and the two nodded again.
“Thank you for agreeing. I just couldn’t stand watching someone getting hurt and not being able to do anything. I won’t let anyone else go throu what I did,” Lana said giving a slight nod as the three shared scowls at the thought. Even though it all happened when they were young, they still hated not being able to help. Granted tho, Damian also knew he would have probably killed the man given a chance, so it was smart to not let him out.
“With our help, you’ll be able to do just that. And you’ll be able to call on one of us should you need help,” Damian added and once more, Lana sent him a thankful smile.
“Now, Xan why don’t you give me an idea of what you’re wanting to use when you go out and I’ll be able to get an idea of what fabric will work best,” Mari said and Xan nodded as they went to the table in Lana’s apartment. Cocoa rubbed herself against their legs before going to play with them or nuzzling their feet. Damian and Lana cleared an area out(granted that didn't mean much since she didn’t own lots of things) and got into fighting stances.
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Mari beamed at the two as Damian took her back to the hotel. They spent a good two hours with Lana and Xan, each sparring against Damian at first while the other talked to Mari. In Mari’s sketchbook, she had a good idea about what they were thinking of and was planning on looking into many different fabrics that would work.
But that would be later.
Right now, she had to get back to Lila and help her plan what to wear for her date tomorrow.
She was beyond lucky that Gotham Academy was letting them do school work online for a week to get used to it before the semester started up again in September, a good couple of months away.
She smiled softly over at Damian as she took his hand into hers and gave it a squeeze as she leaned her head against his shoulder. “That was pretty sweet of you to help Lana, and Xan but he’s more prepared than her,” she said as they walked down the sidewalk and Damian gave a one-shoulder shrug.
“It was just the smart thing to do. Xan explained what was going on and I simply agreed to make sure they don’t get hurt. It’s obvious she would have gone out with or without our help. So, to make it easier, might as well help,” he replied looking forward even as he felt Mari squeeze his hand again.
“Still,” she hummed out. They walked in silence for some time. When her hotel came into view, she bit her lip. “Are you going to tell B?” That had Damian looking down at her before he looked straight ahead in thought.
“No,” he spoke after a minute, “It’s not my place to tell him. He won’t enjoy having two more vigilantes running around, but as long as they leave the big bads to us, he’ll leave them be. Only they can tell B. I won’t break their trusts,” he replied with a decisive nod.
“Good. They’ll appreciate that,” she said squeezing his hand as they paused outside the hotel.
“What about Lila?”
“I’ll tell her about myself when Hawkmoth is defeated-” she started with a sigh but was interrupted by her phone beeping. She pulled it out and scowled at seeing the headline. “Akuma,” she muttered and Damian nodded, glad to have brought his gear.
“First our date, and now the conversation. He has great timing,” Damian deadpanned. Mari giggled at that but soon grabbed his hand and ran into the hotel and up the stairs. Adrien appeared with Nino and she nodded.
“Figured you could use my help,” Nino said.
“That we will. Get to Fu’s shop to get his miraculous and meet us at the Seine,” Mari said as Mari and Adrien transformed. Mari then took out Kalki and merged while Damian quickly threw his gear on, managing to get the last piece on right as Mari opened the portal to Paris that landed halfway between Fu’s place and the Akuma in an alley.
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The four groaned out as they leaned against the walls of the stairwell. The battle was quick but painful. Mari and Adrien’s transformation fell and they shared a weak ‘pound it’. Nino was a better off, smiling at the two as he rubbed his wrist. The Turtle miraculous was back with Fu, she was glad that Nino was able to do that quickly in the two minutes they had left before de-transforming.
“Ok, now I really need to get back to Lila. She’s probably freaking out about her date tomorrow,” Mari said and the group nodded.
“I’ll join you, Angel,” Damian said when he finished getting out of the Robin suit. Mari smiled at him as they held hands and followed behind Adrien and Nino as they talked about what happened in the morning before the Akuma attack. Reaching their rooms, the duo’s separated, Adrien going to his and Nino’s room, and Mari and Damian heading to her room. Opening the door revealed Lila pacing and muttering to herself. On her bed were a few outfit options, and the closet looked messy, quite different than the orderly fashion she usually had it in.
“Whoa, Lila, are you ok?” Mari asked, startling the girl from her thoughts.
“Mari! No, I’m not! I’m panicking!” Lila said flinging herself over to Mari. Mari caught her easily and hugged her before pulling back to hold her hands.
“Don’t worry. Everything will go well. He really cares about you, Lila. Even Damian, who is quite frankly, bad at emotions some days, can see it,” she said, ignoring the offended look Damian was sending her. But it had the desired results.
Lila giggled.
Mari smiled at her friend as she then pulled her to the bed with Damian trailing behind them. “Ok, Damian, do you have any idea about what Xan would do for their date?” Mari asked and Damian hummed as he thought about the different things Xan appreciates.
“What time are you two going out?” he asked and Lila hummed.
“We didn’t set an exact time, but it’s going to be past evening,” she replied and Damian nodded.
“Ok, I can think of a couple things you would do. He’s probably going to take you to his favorite park here. Either before or after he’ll probably take you to a place you both enjoy, like a cafe, or a nice sit-down place,” Damian replied after a bit and Mari started nodding along.
“Ok, so you’ll probably want to dress warm. It can get pretty cold at night,” Mari said looking through the options and immediately putting back anything that was short and pulling out some longer items. “Did you want to wear a dress or are you fine with pants?” she asked, turning to her friend who bit her lip.
“I’m fine with whatever,” Lila replied and Mari nodded. After a bit, she put together three outfits. The first consisted of thick black leggings, a deep gray-blue sweater that went past her mid-thigh with tied bows at the wrists, and red combat boots and newspaper cap. The second one was a black tank top with a white oversized jacket, black shorts with thigh high tie up boots, The final one was a maxi-dress that practically covered her feet when she wore heels, it was a nice light purple with lavender and wild flowers going up from the bottom hem. Around the waist line was a thin black belt paired with 2 inch black sandal wedges.
“Ok, here are three options that would work. For the dress just wear some leggings underneath for more warmth,” Mari said and Lila beamed as she looked at the different options.
“Thank you Mari! And thank you Damian,” Lila said pulling her friend into a tight hug and just sending Damian a smile.
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Mari: got the samples. ill bring them over tom
Lana: thank you Mari! your the best!!
Xan: cool. see ya in the morning
Mari: see ya then!
Mari smiled as she walked back from the fabric store with the samples in hand. Tikki and Kalki pressed against her thigh throu her purse. She smiled softly as she patted the purse and stopped by a bakery to get some cookies and tea. At the counter she wrapped the cookies up with a few sugar cubes and put them into her purse so that they could snack on them as she walked back to WE to help Tim out a bit for a few hours.
Tired @prouodgothamite
Here we go! I’m starting a How-To channel explaining how to do things in Figure/Ice Skating and Parkour. My therapist suggested it. I hope you guys enjoy it #iceskating #parkour #howto #explaining #videos *youtube link showing the thumbnail of Lana in ice skating gear on the ice with ‘How To Do A Toe Loop’ next to her*
Ok, so here’s the next chap! Sorry it’s a bit short. When I was writing it, two of my sisters' cats, Bonito and Snowflake(but she’s named Sunflower but I like my name for her), kept jumping onto me to cuddle which is adorable. But bad for me since I am allergic to them. So that had me out all day yesterday since I could barely think. I kept having to blow my nose, my eyes were irritated 90% of the time even thou I had taken both my allergy meds n antihistamine(spelling what?) eye drops. And then I got a headache. So ya, all that just threw what I had planned out the window and I couldn’t catch it. So ya. But anyways, I hope you enjoyed this chap. I’m wanting to write some more joker n mari buddy fics so please leave a PROMPT(joker will be ooc, cause thats the only way im doin buddies joker n mari(excludin that new fic i put where mari snapped)). Until next time!! -Love Willa<3<3<3
#fanfic#fanfic update#update#my writing#daminette#maribat#ml x dc#A New Hero#ANH#chap 22#lana grayson#xander grayson#alya grayson
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Utd vs City - FA Cup 4th round - Jan 25th 2020
Okay so this game was a little all over the place, I feel like everything just goes out the window on derby day. For real tho my blood pressure went through the roof this afternoon, I HATE derby day. Moving on.
‘10 - Cracking save from Earps. She was on her game today (except for towards the end, but we’ll get to that later on). She did have some great saves though
Today I learned that I’m not a massive fan of Ellen White. She’s very good, yes, so disagree with me if you must, but she seemed pretty intent on literally killing Abbie McManus for a little while there, and she nearly came through Hayley Ladd at one stage, so... yeah. I’m not really a fan. Just don’t think a striker needs to make as many sliding tackles as she did today 🤷🏽♀️
‘22 - Jackie meggsed Steph Houghton and I thought I was gonna die of joy. If that’s even a thing. Also, wish we could have made something from that but hey.
‘24 - Was a little choppy for a lot of the first half. Sigsworth had a glorious opportunity to open the scoring but unfortunately couldn’t make anything happen, and then Ross went kinda close, but it ended up creeping over the bar. City were definitely in charge at this point though, most of what United had was coming off the counter
‘30 - Goal, City. Abbie... bro. Personally, I never bought a ticket for the McManus hype train. And that’s why.
‘37 - Nailed on chance for United surely, ball in from Hanson I’m pretty sure, but Sigsworth just couldn’t get there
Half time: First half went pretty much as I expected it to, minus the goal if I’m being honest. McManus’ mistake was pretty stupid, and shortsighted, but what’s done is done. I do think that we need a new CB (at least one) in the summer, cause I haven’t been majorly impressed w McManus tbh. I much prefer the Turner x2 partnership at CB, but even then Amy can have a tendency to make some silly mistakes. (I’m sure Millie does too, I just haven’t seen those yet. They’re human, not robots, we all make mistakes!) I think Abbie, needs to be benched for a little while; move Amy back to CB w Millie, move Smith onto the right and bring Ökvist in on the left, and just let her develop and learn on the job. (Should Amy have to relinquish that RB spot, Smith should have it over Harris imo)
‘45 - No changes at the half, which was annoyingggggg. Also the male commentator (can’t remember his name, soz) kept making reference to the QF loss to Reading last season and I was not appreciative. Like, at all.
‘48 - Like for the majority of the first half, Zelem was sitting very deep in the Utd midfield. Was almost like a back 5 at times, w Zel sat just in front of Abbie and Millie. She was basically invisible during the first half due to this as well, little to no offensive action. I’m pretty sure that Ladd started sitting deeper to push Zelem up at some stage though
‘56 - Goal, City. This was game over for me (lol). I’m not really sure who I blame for this one, seen a lot of blame on Amy, but there was definitely a delayed reaction from Millie in there too, so I’d have to watch it back (which I don’t plan to tbh) to fully make up my mind, so I’m gonna blame them both. Seems only fair. 🤷🏽♀️
‘59 - James 🔁 Ross. An hour too late but I’ll take it. I’d have started James, without a doubt, but Casey said they were “managing her for the upcoming games”, also she kinda has a tendency to pick up yellows - through no fault of her own really though. Some other players just can’t deal with her strength on the ball so when they challenge her, they come off the worse and she gets in trouble. Riddle me that one 🧐
I also think we need a new striker in the summer, Ross just isn’t working. We need another game changer, another creative outlet like Lauren cause it’s massively unfair to rest that responsibility solely on the shoulders of an 18 year old.
‘60 - glorious shot from Hanson that just couldn’t make it. She really opened City up down the right side. To be honest it was a great save from Roebuck too
‘69 - GOAL; United. Remember when I said Lauren James should have started? Because Lauren James scored a super goal 10 mins after she came on the pitch. Lovely turn and shot, straight past the keeper. Game on, apparently.
‘69 - Arnot 🔁 Sigsworth. I think this was a good swap, even though it may not have been like for like. Jess was EVERYWHERE today, I genuinely don’t think there was an inch of the pitch she didn’t cover. She had a few decent chances, which any other day she probably would have put away but that’s the way it goes I guess 🤷🏽♀️ Honestly if we had any other options, I’d rest her more, but we don’t so... I do think it’s the right decision to sub her off around the hour mark if she’s gonna play this often though. She’s gonna burn out quick cause she’s doing way more than she needs/has to (because we have no bench and a lot of inexperience/players who just aren’t that good, so everyone is doing 47 jobs but shhhh)
‘72 - 👻 - Pure daylight robbery is the only way I can describe this. One of McManus or Arnot has the ball OVER the line, but it’s disallowed 🤦🏽♀️ (Before anyone comes for me claiming “salt” or whatever, there is nothing you can say to me that would change my mind. There’s videos from the stand that show the ball over the line, Ellie Roebuck’s body-language and position show her clearly fishing the ball out of the net, the reaction of all the players around the goal show that it went in - Utd players elated, and City’s dejected. Also Miss Ellen “I couldn’t really see. I wasn’t in the line of it” White can swing. She was 2 feet away and staring right at it.)
‘76 - Goal; City. Jill Scott floats it up and in , with a delayed reaction from Earps. She should have seen that one coming a mile off but I reckon it took a deflection (possibly off McManus’ shoulder?) cause her body movements completely changed - albeit just a fraction too late. Also, I have *no idea* what Amy was doing in the box there, I just know that I don’t ever wanna see whatever that was ever again. Flailing around on the ground like a literal fish out of water. Not good.
‘87 - GOAL; United. Well, own goal; Hemp. But I’ll take it. Thought for a second it was Houghton but she was too busy feigning a foul 🤷🏽♀️
‘90 - I’ll be honest, I had to stop watching here cause I couldn’t take it. There was like, a year’s worth of added time bc of two injuries to City players but nothing of note happened during this time so I have nothing to say.
All in all, I think our entire back line had an off day today.
Abbie, imo she’s our main defensive weak link. I’d say a solid 70% of City’s chances came down our right side due to this. I’d have to go back and rewatch every game from the start of the season to pick out specific instances, but there can be a bit of hesitancy and airiness to her game sometimes, it doesn’t always seem like she thinks before she does. And she (well, all of them do it really) plays it back way more than is healthy for my stress levels.
Millie gets the benefit of the doubt from me today cause she very rarely has off days, but she was very quiet today.
Amy, has some extent of the benefit of the doubt cause she’s not a RB/FB by nature, she’s had to change her game a bit, but she was not great today (see previous point about the right side of our defence)
I actually think Kirsty Smith was the best of the 4, her service to Hanson on the left was excellent.
We really, really missed Galton down the left though, so I hope she’s back for Wednesday! Lauren needs to start vs Chelsea too, and against Reading tbh but we’ll worry about that one later.
Also, as a little side note, I have to say I really enjoyed Jayne Ludlow’s commentary this afternoon! I know she did the Utd/Spurs reverse fixture in October, and I’m sure she’s done a few more, but I’d like to hear a lot more of her (or really, anyone else who knows the game as well as she does, or in a similar capacity). She, obviously, knows the game really well, and I thought her analysis and opinions were really interesting to listen to.
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(2nd attempt lol) So I went through Newsflash! and Move! with a fine-toothed comb...
This is structured into 4 parts to make it a bit easier to read. The first part is interesting information I 'found' again after reading through everything with watchful eyes again. The second part is a listing of everyone who could've done it, and what reasons they may have. The third part is not necessarily informative, but still interesting stuff I 'found' while reading through it again. And last are questions I had or things which didn't add up for me. This is extremely long (the Word document I have is 6 pages long RIP), so grab a drink and get comfy. Also, this is mostly just based on what is in Newsflash! and Move! itself. Hope you'll enjoy!
Interesting information:
“It’s crucial to the plot that you know” (DK in Newsflash! 5) implies there’s a hidden plot, one we don’t see
“You’re going to make plenty of friends soon enough y/n” (DK in Newsflash! 5) Did DK orchestrate Y/N becoming friends with SVT? Why? Does he want to tear SVT down? But why through Y/N?
Oh, remember that girl who told the schoolboard about Jeonghan and Chaeyoung, angry Jeonghan planned on resigning from SVT for Chaeyoung? The one who essentially was the cause for Jeonghan & SVT ghosting Chaeyoung in the beginning of Newsflash! because she got word to Chaeyoung’s father and he threatened to take away their scholarships? Maybe it has something to do with her… (Newsflash! 10)
Joshua said himself that the others give up easily (Newsflash! 10) as soon as the situation becomes a bit dire
Newsflash! 11 “I know what it feels like to just have someone slip away from you when you could’ve done more” (Y/N texting w/ Mingyu) Who?? Is she talking about?? COULD IT BE A REASON FOR SOMEONE TO BE A BITCH TO Y/N???? Adding to that the next text: “You have the chance to fix things before it’s too late” WHEN WAS Y/N TOO LATE?? FOR WHOM??
The Barista from Newsflash! 13 (I FORGOT HER NAME I’M NOT IN THE LOOP WITH GIRLGROUPS) could’ve heard everything SVT+Chaeyoung talked about when they were locked in that back room… maybe that started something? (Edit: okay in Newsflash! 22 several girls comment on Y/N’s tweet and one has the same profile picture as the Barista… so her name is something along the lines of Hyunie?)
Newsflash! 17 DK texting “He’s not the one for you trust me Y/N” makes DK all the more suspicious. How do you know that? Who are you trying to set us up with?
Newsflash! 21 DK knew before Y/N said anything at all that Y/N was out with Jeonghan and that Jeonghan had kissed her. How did he know?
Newsflash! 23 DK texting “Guess we’ll just have to wait and see” makes me think he didn’t actually plan all this… but the use of the emoji makes him still suspicious. But if he didn’t plan this – why does he know so much?! Is he stalking Y/N? Why? For what reason?
Newsflash! 29 Name of one of Jeonghan’s clients was dropped – Eunha. Was she the one who bitched to the schoolboard? Wonwoo calls her ‘VIP client ;)’, which Jeonghan doesn’t really appreciate (“how about u shut the fuck up :)” Has all the passive aggressive energy in the world)
Newsflash! 31 Okay, so Yuta: ex-bf from Japan; Y/N’s first love (what was Joshua then? Didn’t Y/N leave Korea because Joshua didn’t return her feelings in Senior year Highschool?); cheated on her (did he really?); showed her pictures/nudes to his friends;
Newsflash! 31 Am I… the only one who is kind of suspicious of Wonwoo? Like, why was he there? I don’t believe he was there by chance. And even if he was, why would he help Y/N? What does he gain from this? Yeah, SVT’s motto is ‘respect women and make them feel happy’, but… it still seems suspicious to me.
Newsflash! 33 DK texting “that?? wasn’t??? supposed to happen????” “where did he even COME FROM” confirms a suspicion of mine – it wasn’t an accident that Wonwoo was there. Or maybe it was? Ugh, I don’t know. All I know is that Wonwoo and DK are both suspicious as hell.
Newsflash! 34 HOLD ON A MF SECOND JEON WONWOO HAS A CLIENT WHO IS CALLED SOHYE. A CLINGY CLIENT. SOHYE AND SOHEE AREN’T TOO FAR APART. MAYBE SISTERS…? A SISTER WHO IS MAD THAT HER SISTER WASN’T TREATED ALL THAT NICELY BY WONWOO. THAT’S WHY SHE’S AFTER Y/N – BECAUSE SHE THINKS Y/N AND WONWOO ARE ACTUALLY DATING. IT WOULD MAKE SO MUCH SENSE THO BECAUSE CUPIDHAOS ALSO SAID ‘Sohee is connected to SVT but not in a way you think’ THAT WAY SHE’S CONNECTED TO SVT (HER SISTER IS WONWOO’S CLIENT) AND WE DEFINITELY WOULD’VE NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT. YOOOOO
Newsflash! 37 Jeonghan chewing Y/N out… and showing a possible motive.
Also Y/N is a dumbass for believing you can’t get phones in Thailand. HOW DUMB DO YOU HAVE TO BE??? Honestly. I mean, I get it if they were like, in a really rural part of Thailand, but somehow I doubt that
Move! 3 DK not be cryptic for 1 minute challenge: failed. BOI- “oh y/n this is where the story starts my dear friend” ???? Dear friend sounds so threatening. Like, what did Y/N do to you?
Move! 4 Why does Seungkwan want to keep Y/N away from SVT so desperately? Like, if Y/N can prove to them that the whole thread is a lie, she has 6 more people on her side. That would give her a lot more credibility, to be honest. Does Seungkwan have a reason for keeping Y/N away from SVT?
Move! 4 Chaeyoung is… surprisingly good… and QUICK… at getting Jimin’s and Seokjin’s number… even after they changed it… That’s suspicious. How good is Chaeyoung with tech?
Move! 4 Someone wanted Y/N info. And they were willing to pay for it. (This is before Y/N left, right after Jihoon posted the picture of being on the train to Busan with Y/N. So someone planned all this before Y/N even left.)
Move! 4 Jimin’s and Seokjin’s education and jobs have been threatened. (By whom exactly? Schoolboard? Or just a ‘random’ person? An anonymous person? They don’t know either – anonymous.) They were forbidden from talking to SVT (someone wants to prevent SVT from finding out the truth…) or explaining themselves.
Move! 5 Y/N mentions deleting all the photos she had of Yuta from her phone. But maybe Yuta still had some? Also (that happened to me) if you have a Google account and don’t adjust your setting, pictures taken on your phone will be saved on your Google Drive. As a backup. (I once deadass couldn’t get rid of 3 GB WORTH OF PICTURES BECAUSE OF THIS). Maybe that’s how someone got the pictures? Hacked Y/N’s email?
Move! 5 Soonyoung is very quick to point to Yuta. Then again, Yuta looks very suspicious. So… a ruse, probably.
Move! 5 DK “I trust no one and you shouldnt either” just… why should we trust YOU telling us not to trust anyone? Hm?
Move! 5 Vernon still hanging out with SVT (when did he even become friends with them? Nothing of that was mentioned during Newsflash! ? How did that happen??) is very suspicious. Like, isn’t there a conflict of interest? Or is he just stringing along either side? Making SVT believe he is on their side, or making Y/N believe he is on her side. Also, has Vernon met Sohee?? Or did he only hang out with SVT before the thread was posted? (But if that were the case… Minghao wouldn’t retweet it and Wonwoo wouldn’t say ‘we should do that again’.) Vernon, you’re very suspicious now.
Move! 5 Also interesting to note: Vernon practically pushes Y/N into Wonwoo’s direction. First saying that Mingaho isn’t a fan of Y/N anymore (true, I guess), but then leading her to Wonwoo? Did he know Wonwoo was the weakest link/the one who had doubts? Does he know Wonwoo still has feelings for Y/N, and is trying to push them together? Is Vernon playing something???
Move! 6 “You just disappearing out of nowhere was a bit weird” HOE YOU SAW EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED??? SEUNGCHEOL, MINGYU, JEONGHAN AND Y/N WERE IN YOUR APARTMENT ON THAT EVENING??? YOU WITNESSED HOW JEONGHAN YELLED AT Y/N WHEN SHE WAS ALREADY A MESS?? AND YOU THINK IT’S WEIRD SHE RAN AWAY AND NEEDED SOME TIME? BOI-
Move! 6 One of Wonwoo’s answers indicated that he didn’t text Seungkwan or Chaeyoung and never asked for clarification, but just believed Sohee. He also never asked Vernon or Chan (again, why Vernon? And why is DK and Hoshi missing here??)
Move! 7 Jihoon mentions Y/N being pulled into things she didn’t do since Sohee appeared – is he talking about the thread saying Y/N manipulated Wonwoo (a whole lie, and SVT KNOWS THAT), or is there something more? Wasn’t there once the talk of rumors? What kind of rumors? More than what is written in the thread??? Ouf…
Move! 7 Mingyu outright says "Wonwoo I thought you liked Sohee…" Makes me suspicious. Did Sohee specifically target Wonwoo? Or is Wonwoo just pretending to be on Y/N's side? Hm...
Move! 8 DK clearly hinting towards Yuta being behind it all… but can we trust DK.
Suspects and why they would do it:
Chaeyoung:
Might still hold a massive grudge against SVT, and doesn’t want Y/N associate with them (Not logical – why would Jihoon and Wonwoo be okay? Why would she keep them around? They’re SVT too, and they ghosted her too, unlike Joshua.)
Might still hold a massive grudge against SVT and wants to get revenge (Once again – why are Jihoon and Wonwoo fine? They are/were SVT too.) (Thread/Rumors mainly hurt Y/N, not SVT.)
Holds a massive grudge against a specific member (don’t know who – maybe Jeonghan? Maybe one of the guys who overran Y/N?) and wants to ruin them. Orchestrated this whole thing and ‘leads’ the ‘investigation’ so it’ll lead to (a) certain member(s), in order to ruin them or keep them away from Y/N.
Got extremely jealous with how popular Y/N became with SVT. SVT is neglecting her once again, and Y/N is neglecting her as well, hanging out with her new friends instead. So, she wants to keep Y/N away from them, and hopes that this break of trust will cause Y/N to not be friends with SVT anymore, even if the situation gets cleared. She can be friends with Y/N again, Y/N will spend a lot of time with her again, and Chaeyoung’s happy again. (Might be psycho, but who knows…? Some people are crazy. And Chaeyoung seems very bossy with Y/N. (Granted Y/N needs it because DEAR LORD but still…))
General Reason for SVT members:
They feel betrayed and used by Y/N. She just left them, without even saying goodbye to them (she only texted Joshua before she left, as far as we know). They feel manipulated by her, and want to get revenge on her.
Or stereotypical ‘If I cannot have her, no one can have her’ or ‘If he cannot have her, no one can have her’. Y/N doesn’t want to be her girlfriend? (Or the girlfriend of one of their friends – JH and SC, for example.) Then you’ll be no one’s girlfriend. And I’ll drag you down.
Seungcheol:
Angry and hurt that Y/N immediately ran away after he got injured (for her, might I add), so he might feel like he was manipulated
Jeonghan:
Angered at how Y/N treated Seungcheol and the rest of SVT, unknowingly strumming everyone along. Literally blamed Y/N for ‘everything going to shit’ into her face. Could be prone to enlisting the help of someone to tear Y/N down.
Joshua:
Extremely frustrated with Y/N. Feels betrayed by her and wants revenge. Finally snapped.
(Feels like he doesn’t know his friend anymore, which is why he believes so easily.)
Jun:
Deeply hurt that Y/N just went away without even saying anything. Wants to get revenge on her. Feels like she didn’t give him a chance, and now wants her to pay for it.
Soonyoung:
Frustrated that Y/N is only spending time with SVT now, wants to bring her back to her old circle of friends
Wonwoo:
Fell in love with Y/N, realized there’s too much competition and decided to get rid of them. (But why would he be hesitant when Y/N contacts him? Wouldn’t he want to be immediately on her side, to get into her good graces? But that could make him suspicious again… Hm…)
Fell in love with Y/N before the others did, before Jeonghan ever saw her in Communications class. Knows the others are competition, and wants to separate Y/N from them, hoping the break of trust will prevent Y/N from getting close to them.
Jihoon:
Knows all of the members. Knows they’re not good for Y/N. Wants to keep them away from Y/N. Hopes the massive break of trust will prevent Y/N from becoming friends with them again, even after the situation is cleared up. ’Leads’ the ‘investigation’ with Chaeyoung to lead it away from himself.
DK:
Homeboy knows too much. He said ‘and this is where the plot begins’ when Jeonghan sat next to Y/N at the beginning of Newsflash!. Always knew what was going on, even if it were unlikely for him to know. Could there be a reason for him orchestrating everything? Did Y/N wrong him at some point?
I feel like we all forget that in the first profile post, it’s stated that Mingyu and DK are close friends. Maybe he got über salty at Y/N not getting together with Mingyu, like he wanted to (?)?
Mingyu:
Feels abandoned by Y/N. Wants her to feel the same abandonment.
Minghao:
In the same class as Y/N – maybe a petty ass reason but she could’ve been too much competition? So he wanted to get rid of her? Essentially make her so disliked she’s forced to leave for her own sake.
Seungkwan:
Frustrated that Y/N spent so much time with her new friends, barely finding time for her old friends.
Vernon:
Maybe wanted to get into SVT, but got rejected. Tries to shake them up (Wonwoo and Jihoon left SVT already) so he maybe gets a chance to join SVT.
Seems to know an awful lot; pointed Y/N into Wonwoo’s direction. If not the culprit, then someone who helped? But why would he betray his friend? Well… has Y/N been a good friend?
Chan:
Same as Vernon possibly.
Mad that Y/N doesn’t hang out with him and the others as much anymore, and wants to bring her away from SVT.
Yuta:
Angry that Y/N won’t take him back, and that she humiliated him in public (she hit him and called him a dick)
First plan (just outright ask Y/N to come back to him) didn’t work. Now, next plan is set in motion.
(Most likely to be a red herring. He’s a bit too obvious.)
Yiren:
Y/N ‘stole’ Jun from her for a moment. He’s back with her now (both of them are Clownsssss), but still – hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. It could be a reason why she would want to harm Y/N, and make her stay away from Jun.
Sohye:
Clingy client of Wonwoo. Is not happy AT ALL that her favorite SVT member is spending so much time with another girl, someone who is not a client. Maybe wants to get rid of Y/N and keep Wonwoo to herself?
Sohee: Popular Theories:
Ex of Yuta who’s angry at Y/N because Yuta dumped her to get Y/N back. Wants to ruin her to get back at her.
Related to Seungcheol/Chaeyoung/Seungkwan/Anyone and either isn’t happy with how Y/N treated her (relative is not a dick in this route) or is the henchman of her relative, who holds a serious grudge against Y/N and wants to see her go down.
Ex-friend of Y/N who is angry that Y/N abandoned and forgot about her. (Maybe she was mentioned in Newsflash! 11?)
My theory:
Sister/Cousin/Very close friend of Sohye (clingy client of Wonwoo). Angered to see her sister/cousin/close friend being ignored by Wonwoo and not have his full attention anymore. Also think Wonwoo might be falling for Y/N, and doesn’t want her sister/cousin/close friend to experience heartbreak.
Chaeyoung’s Father:
Already has a history of being controlling over who interacts with his daughter
(Is he still part of the Schoolboard? And does the School still restrict SVT, or is that no more?)
What does he see: His daughter in distress, talking to SVT again, leaving for an entire summer… all because of who? Y/N.
Knows he can’t separate Chaeyoung from Y/N – childhood friends after all – but he can separate Y/N and Chaeyoung from SVT. Then he can start working on separating them.
‘Bitchy’ Client of Jeonghan (Eunha?):
Could be the one who bitched to the schoolboard when Jeonghan wanted to resign from SVT for Chaeyoung – or not.
Could be jealous of Y/N taking Jeonghan away from her, and wants to keep him away from Y/N
Jaehyun:
That one dude Chaeyoung dated for a hot second (were they really together??), best friends with Yuta (makes him suspicious!)
Could be in on the whole plot, planned to get to Y/N through Chaeyoung, but after that failed, they’re now doing Plan B
Unknown:
In Newsflash! 11 Y/N mentioned she once was too late in mending her relationship with someone. (She let someone slip away, as she said it.) Who was it? And could it be that the person is back, angry at Y/N for letting her slip away and wanting to get revenge?
Funny-informative things:
Seungcheol considered Joshua still a brother, even after Joshua left SVT and basically told them to get lost. So it’s extra ironic that he told Jihoon to leave because of a girl he just met ~2 months ago (Newsflash! 4)
You know, it’s really ironic – in Newsflash! 10 Joshua cites the fact that SVT just left Chaeyoung behind as his reason as to why he doesn’t tell Chaeyoung the truth. It’s very obvious he’s angry about them just leaving her. But look at what he’s doing now, leaving his friend of YEARS for… well, poor reasons. At least poorer reasons than SVT had to avoid Chaeyoung. Their education was at stake, while for him… what is at stake?
I like Jun calling Mingaho out on his bullshit in Newsflash! 22. First telling Jun that Y/N doesn’t like him that way and that he should go on a date with Yiren but then later on turn around and tell him ‘omg it was obvious she had feelings for you why did you play with her!!!’ Hao you just sank.
Newsflash! 26 Joshua’s whole tirade about “You should come to me when you need something, I should walk you home at night, it should be me, not Jun or Mingyu or Jeonghan” just rubs me in the wrong way. Like, dude – you weren’t there for her, but others were. So Y/N learned ‘oh, ok, can’t go to Joshua, I’ll go to someone else’. You can’t blame her for that. She went and found a different support system because you weren’t there for her. Stop being so controlling and demanding – even if you’re her friend since childhood, she doesn’t owe you shit. She doesn’t have to rely just on you, and doesn’t owe you a relationship. (Gosh, sorry went off on a tangent.)
Newsflash! 28 Jeonghan saying he’ll wait for Y/N until she’s ready (a whOLE LIE)
Newsflash! 36 Y/N doing the right thing and PUNCHING YUTA LIKE HE DESERVES GOODBYE HOE
THE MF IRONY OF JUN TEXTING “you don’t have any rights rn ur a dick” TO JEONGHAN IN Newsflash! 38 I’M DIEING XD HONEY, YOU ARE DICK YOURSELF. AND YOU’LL CONTINUE TO BE A DICK. GOSH YOU’RE MY BIAS WRECKER BUT HONESTLY SCREW Newsflash!/Move!Jun (Can we please get a moment where Jeonghan is convinced of Y/N's innocence but Jun doesn't believe her stubbornly, making Y/N cry, and then later when he sees he was wrong and tries to apologize Jeonghan pulls a "you don't have any right rn ur a dick" PLEASE???)
Also thank you Lee Jihoon for telling the guys they need to freaking CHILL. “throwing yourselves at her like DOGS” is exactly the phrase I would’ve used. 10/10 (Newsflash! 38)
Newsflash! 40 Joshua being a whole clown and texting “ill wait an eternity for you even if I get heartbroken in the end” like yeah, look at where you are now
Okay so to get this right: Y/N, Chaeyoung and Seungkwan have left for 1 week; Y/N drops her phone into a river in Thailand; that same week the thread was posted (but not on the exact same day?); very soon after that Sohee shows up and lies. That's… quick. How did no one of SVT think "wait, how come she showed up so soon after the thread was posted??" They really have -5 braincells, huh.
Questions I have/Things which don't add up for me:
Why was Chae’s Dad okay with Joshua still being friends with Chaeyoung? Is it because they didn’t have a thing for each other? Also, Chaeyoung's father still could've threatened Joshua. Either by threatening to take away his scholarship (if he has one) or by threatening to kick him out of university. Why was Joshua fine?
Why was it only Joshua who held to Chaeyoung when shit went down back then? I can understand Jeonghan, since his education was threatened, and Seungcheol, since he seems to be close with Jeonghan. But all the others? Did none of them, of all 12 (10) of them, care enough for Chaeyoung to say ‘I am resigning from SVT, I want to keep being friends with you’? My point is: it seems that SVT has a history of dropping people quite easily. Especially girls. Which is ironic, since SVT’s motto/theme is about respecting women and making them feel happy.
Then again - for how long have Joshua and Chaeyoung been friends? For how long have Chaeyoung and Y/N been friends? We know Joshua and Y/N are childhood friends (as far as I remember), but since Joshua said he met Chaeyoung during his time in SVT and only got close to her at that point, I don't think Y/N and Chaeyoung were childhood friends. But we also know Chaeyoung and Y/N were friends in Highschool, or else Chaeyoung wouldn't know about the reason why Y/N left for Japan. So... was Joshua just not aware of Chaeyoung, the best friend of his childhood friend? (How would that work??)
How did Y/N not know of SVT at the beginning of Newsflash! ? Like, she has to ask Chaeyoung who they are, even though Y/N has already been there for 2 Quarters. I get being a reclusive, I am too, but even I know about the very popular stuff going on around me. And SVT has to be popular. A host club/frat like theirs, not popular? They wouldn't bring in money if they weren't. And they do, as far as we know. So... is Y/N so unaware of her surroundings?
What also confuses me – we know Chaeyoung and Y/N have history. We know Y/N and Joshua have history. But Seungkwan and Y/N? We don’t know about them. We’re told he’s close friends with Y/N (Mingyu asking Seungkwan for help for getting Y/N and Seungcheol together, Seungkwan being the one to travel along Chaeyoung and Y/N), but we don’t see it. We see as much of their friendship – even less – than of Y/N’s friendship with Vernon, Dino, Hoshi and DK. I’m just- what’s their history? Why was he the one to travel alongside Chaeyoung and Y/N? Yeah, Chaeyoung said it’s because he’s not trying to get into Y/N’s pants, but… neither is Vernon or Dino. Or Seokmin. Hoshi is on shaky grounds, but I don’t think he wants to either. So, why Seungkwan?
Did DK and Y/N ever actually meet? Either during Newsflash! or Move! ? Because we know Y/N spent time with Vernon, Chan, Seungkwan, Soonyoung, Joshua and Chaeyoung on different occasions, but never was there any talk of DK. Speaking of which - how did DK and Y/N become friends? Was DK just an 'add-on' when Y/N started tutoring Chan and became friends with him? Does that really make them friends?
And... that's all I have. Sorry if I lost some things when I re-submitted them! And let's hope it'll work now!!
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Sailor Moon The Super Live Report - September 7th (first performance, musical note team)
Place: Aiia Theatre Placement: Row 8, Seat 32 (first row, second block, roughly middle)
Show part Not gonna lie, the only reason why I went a third time was because of Chiyuu. Kasai Tomomi, former member of AKB48, is Sailor Moon this time. I’m not even that big of a fan of hers, tbh, she’s done some stuff I really don’t agree with in the past, but she’s besties with one of my fave singers and her last album was LIT. So hopefully this is her new STAR-T.
This performance turned out to be my favourite of the three. The seats were the best, the high touch was the best (partly because I went to the previous high touch), vocals were on point, Chiyuu was great and so many other things.
To start with, they open the doors an hour before show time. You then need to wait in the lobby for half an hour before they let you into the seating area. So there I was, chilling in the lobby, when two older ladies come up and talk to a staff member after being introduced by another staff member. Jaws dropped. It was the original voice actresses for Jupiter and Venus!
They were standing less than a meter from me! It was honestly so surreal?? They were dressed casual and just chatted normally before going off to the side to wait like everyone else. Rica (Venus) had a ridiculous amount of Venus merch on her, which was honestly adorable. She also responded to me on twitter later <3 (Speaking of which, I commented on Kunzite’s insta twice and got responses both time. She seems lovely, so please support her too!)
As a quick cast comparison, personally I like this group’s vocals. I haven’t checked but they probably are more musically trained. Chiyuu was an idol for six years or so, and is still continuing her solo career, so it’d kinda make sense if the note team was made of those with a musical background. I did think the vocals were a bit more towards “we’re senshi” side; the heart team was more “we’re teenagers who moonlight as senshi” type vocals (lighter? I guess? Higher pitched?). However, all of the vocals were a lot more stable in this team, with none of the mic issues etc of heart team.
I still prefer Sena as Venus. She was a lot more bubbly, while also being able to do the senshi side well. This Venus had very little reaction to Kunzite’s death. Though I did notice this time that the rest of the senshi appear to get their memories back at this time too. Jupiter really stood out this time around. You could see she was putting her absolute all into it and I can really respect that. This Mercury was also really great. Her voice was just sweet enough, but had the power heart team’s Mercury lacked. As a whole, this cast seemed less nervous and more confident, and smiled a lot more often.
Kasai as Moon was AMAZING! The other Moon stuck to the script, but Kasai kept adding in natural sound? I guess? She made the dialogue flow more, by adding a few extra words or cried more or whatever. It made it seem less like a play, and more real. She definitely got the dreamy side of Usagi down, and she held the confidence of Moon against Beryl, which I adored. She was honestly the perfect Usagi and I’m so glad she was able to have this opportunity. If this is released on dvd (note, no camera at shonichi or tonight, but there was a camera for the last show of heart team), I hope they release a version with her team <3
There were pretty much no mistakes from this cast. They seem to have improved on everyone else’s mistakes. This isn’t just the cast – the crew has done this as well. For example, where the classmates are zombified, they’ve had more glow in the dark components to their costumes. There were no mic issues. There was no issue with the sheet/Beryl’s dark energy.
The only mistake came from Tuxedo Mask. He couldn’t get the veil into Usagi’s hair. In the end he was like ‘well who cares lmao’ and put it on one of the horses lmaoooo Oops, sorry, another lie. Moon accidentally turned the moon rod on for a brief second. I still think the rod should have been painted so it wasn’t as ugly and it should have been kept on tbh. Overall, it was a flawless performance.
As for the differences in the performance, apart from Usagi being more vocal in the best way’s possible, it was essentially the same show. There was still no dialogue from the leaving students, though Haruna stamped her feet, in what I’m assuming is a “Usgai get your butt out of this classroom NOW” type thing. Shame, because that bit of ‘see you’ ‘oh we have homework’ type thing did the same as Usagi – make it more human and natural.
I’m going to be biased and say my favourite part was when Usagi runs through the audience at the start yelling that she’s late. I currently have blue hair, so I stick out, and I was right where she runs past. When she’s running, she talks to a few audience members. Standing out, she pointed at my necklace.
“Wow! That necklace is cute! How much was it?” Me: -doing my best goldfish impression because Kasai Tomomi si ridiculously cute in person and talking to me?????- “WOW! A million dollars?! EXPENSIVE!”
She then ran off, remembering she was late. (All of this was in Japanese.)
So considering she was the reason I came, I more than feel like I got my money’s worth from this show XD
Song part Same same. But different.
This cast definitely had a much more powerful La Soldier, but I liked heart team’s Otome no Policy better. Their voices were softer and a lot better for the more emotional songs imo.
For Moonlight Densetsu, when they were walking around the audience, I managed to get high fives from all of them bar Moon and Mask~
Mercury came by first briefly, followed by Venus iirc, then Jupiter (she’s got such a nice smile!~) and then Mars. Mars kinda dragged her hand so it was a long high touch haha
At the end of the show, they release a bunch of streamers? I’ve honestly never seen the point of grabbing them because what do you do with them?? But I grabbed one that night. Lucky I was so quick because a staff member came up straight away to snatch them away lol
(But what do I do with it..?)
The crowd was really interesting. A lot of the crowd was male, and there for Tomomi (a lot of female fans were too). However, a lot of the dudes had no idea what Sailor Moon was meant to be about (beside magical girl) so while waiting before the show (which started 15 minutes late? Everyone was getting low key annoyed) and after, waiting for the high touch, a lot of girls were trying to explain to these middle aged business men what the show was about. So shout out to the Sailor Moon community for being cool with new people coming into the fandom, even if it is for just a moment.
High Touch The line up was Jupiter, Mercury, Mask, Moon, Mars, Venus.
I barely had any time with Jupiter, but she has a pretty smile so who cares. I told her today was great and she was happy with that. Mercury commented that we had the same colour hair so I stan her for life now. She’s so cute! Mask remembered me from the other day~ (I mean, how many blue haired foreigners have come to see the show?? ;;;) There was a little bit of a hold up, so I was able to hold her hand~ I told her today was amazing and I’d continue to support her, and the returning smile I got killed me.
Tomomi also remembered me! “Oh! It’s you from earlier!” Again, told her it was great and I’d support her. She looks so good as Moon? Like, really natural. I forgot how short she was tho ;; She’s a good 12cm shorter than me lol
Mars was so cool and kind too. Same for Venus, but as much as I liked her, Sena is the only Venus for me. Sorry!
Tonight I got Mars as my bookmark thing, so I’m super happy! Overall, this experience was fun! Tonight was an amazing night, and Chiyuu did such a great job as Moon, so I’m sure by closing night she had it seriously nailed. The whole three times were great fun, and I had debated getting a forth ticket. Not only is that slight overkill, but the rest of the shows were only giving goods away, so not worth it. But a great night was had and I’d highly recommend the show. Go see them in France if you can!
Summary Enjoyable: 5/5 Worth the ticket price: 5/5 Re-watchable: 4/5 If this was sold on dvd, would I buy it: 4/5
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My WrestleMania Overview
1. Andre the Giant Battle Royal | Winner: Woken Matt Hardy (with an assist from Bray Wyatt)
This was a pretty good match as far as Battle Royals go. They can sometimes be hectic and hard to know where to look. Some people like Shelton, Goldust and Dolph got some chances to shine when they usually wouldn’t so I enjoyed that. The interesting thing however was the win of Matt Hardy. I was sort of expecting him to win (once I saw Elias wasn’t there, more on him later), but the addition of Bray Wyatt was a little more unexpected. It seems that the Lake of Reincarnation has turned Bray into a Woken Warrior, and I love it! Bray hasn’t gotten too many wins, despite having an awesome gimmick, and the team of Bray Wyatt and Matt Hardy (and a certain Brother Nero) will be unstoppable. I want them to go to Smackdown to tackle the teams there. Them against the New Day, Bludgeon Brothers or Usos would be great. And will this win start the Woken Hardy’s Quest for Gold in the WWE? I guess time will tell.
(gif credit to @thearchitectwwe)
2. Cedric Alexander vs. Mustafa Ali | Winner (and new champion): Cedric Alexander
This was an all around amazing match. The heart and the soul of 205 Live brought a great match that showed why the Cruiserweights should get more respect than they currently do.
Although I was rooting for Mustafa Ali, this win for Cedric was long overdue, and so I am satisfied. Congrats Cedric, you earned it.
(gif credits to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
3. Women’s Battle Royal | Winner: Naomi
I have a couple of beefs with this match, even though I think it was a pretty decent Battle Royal. The first is this: if not everyone is going to get a WrestleMania entrance, then no one should. It bothered me that Becky, Bayley and Sasha (even tho I love them all) got their entrances and everyone else (Natalya, Mickie, Naomi) came out in bulk. Another thing that I wanted was to get more of a spotlight on the NXT girls. They all did a great job and I wish they would have highlighted them more. So in case you didn’t hear their names (I know I didn’t), let me introduce you to them. Kairi Sane, Kavita Devi, Peyton Royce, Dakota Kai, Bianca Belair and Taynara Conti. You girls are the future.
(gif credit to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
Back to the match, like I said, it was pretty good as far as Battle Royals go. I thought Carmella would cash in her MITB later in the night and that was why she only spent .01 seconds in the match, but it seems that’s not the case (more on this later).
I loved seeing Sasha and Bayley square off in the center of the ring. I’m waiting for the day that they get a one-on-one Wrestlemania moment, but for now, I’m happy they got to do that, and that Bayley threw her out the same way Sasha did at Rumble.
(gif credit to @thearchitectwwe)
However, it was not meant to be for the Hugger, as she forgot that she had Naomi still in the ring. In the end, Naomi prevailed and became the first Wrestlemania Women’s Battle Royal winner. Congrats to her. Now can they just make a better trophy, please?
(gif credit to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
Now onto the main card!
4. The Miz (champ) vs. Seth Rollins vs. Finn Balor | Winner: Seth Rollins
Before starting, I want to take a moment to thank Balor for his entrance. It was definitely the simplest of the three, but it showed the type of person he is, and it was a bold statement. The Balor club is for everyone, and I am happy to be a part of it.
(gif credit to @jimdrugfree)
Overall, this was a great match by some of the best in the business. We’ve seen Balor and Seth put on some great matches before, but pairing them with Miz, arguably one of the best and most talented wrestlers, was a recipe for success. All of them got their moments to shine, and Seth came out victorious.
(gif credit to @jarillian)
Congrats to Seth Rollins, on now being a Grand Slam Champion! It’s very well deserved, and I’m hoping he can get some good storylines in the future.
(gif credit to @thearchitectwwe)
5. Charlotte (champ) vs. Asuka | Winner: Charlotte
I want to first take a moment for Charlotte’s entrance, which was sheer, golden perfection.
(gif credit to @jimdrugfree)
Anyway, onto the match. This match was next level, and showed us why these two are some of the best in the Women’s division right now. It was smooth and it was dynamic and it was crazy in all the best ways.
There were power moves, there were submissions, there were kickouts. It was everything a good match should be, and honestly, I think it should have been later in the night. It could have even been main event.
(gif credits to @jarillian)
But the ending... ASUKA TAPPED????? LIKE ACTUALLY LOST????
Personally, I feel it was premature to break Asuka’s streak (especially at her first Wrestlemania, more on that later), but if anyone could beat it, Charlotte definitely was the woman to do it. It seems no one should go to a New Orleans WrestleMania with a streak. However, as a submission specialist, I’m a little salty that she TAPPED. Although, Charlotte’s one-armed Figure Eight was a thing of beauty.
However, my favorite part may have been the camaraderie at the end. Cuz at the end of the day, Charlotte was ready for Asuka.
(gif credits to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
6. Randy Orton (champ) vs. Bobby Roode vs. Jinder Mahal vs. Rusev | Winner: Jinder Mahal
Maybe it was because it was placed after such a shocking and dynamic match, but this match sort of seemed like filler. I’m not satisfied seeing Randy as the US Champ. I just haven’t really been able to get invested in Bobby Roode since he came here (which is probably due in part to the fact that his theme gets on my nerves lol), and after Jinder was just the Smackdown champ, being the US champ felt like a step down. But you want to know who should have won?
Rusev.
Rusev has been passed up on so many opportunities. He’s a great wrestler and is hilarious, and he’s top selling merch. I don’t know what else Rusev has to do to get the belt he deserves. However, Jinder pulled out the victory, so congrats to him. I am happy that Jinder has been able to come back and do well for himself, first with the Smackdown belt and now with this, but I think it was the wrong call this time.
(gif credit to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
7. Stephanie and Triple H vs. Kurt Angle and Ronda Rousey | Winner: Kurt Angle and Ronda Rousey
I wanna start off by saying I love Triple H and Stephanie. They’re the definition of a power couple and are great entertainers and wrestlers. And their joint entrance was great!
(gif credit to @totaldivasepisodes)
Okay, I’m gonna come out and say it. Ronda did amazing in her first match!
There I said it. Ronda haters can unfollow/send hate now. (***see end***)
This match was arguably one of the best matches of the night, which is a very impressive feat for a rookie. She showed power, she showed skill, she showed strength. She did everything she could. And not only did she do that with Steph, she did it to Triple H.
(gif credit to @jarillian)
She showed an insane amount of skill and training for someone in their first match, including rolling out of the powerbomb into an armbar.
(gif credit to @thearchitectwwe)
My favorite thing about Steph is that she’s a full fledged entertainer, and so not only did she perform well physically, she added a bit of humor to the match as well.
I totally expected Steph and Triple H to have to carry the match (on account of her greenness), but that wasn’t the case at all. Ronda did amazing. I understand the apprehension of her coming to WWE since we’ve been burned by Brock (more on that later), but in my eyes, she silenced every doubt I had. Yes, she was a bit sloppy at times, and she definitely needs better gear, but it was an extraordinary debut. My only wish is that we see more submissions/a different finisher from her in the future. I know the armbar is her signature, but it can become a bit cheesy if used too much.
Welcome to the WWE, Ronda Rousey. I have a feeling you’ll be here for a while.
(gif credits to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
8. The Usos (champ) vs. The New Day vs. The Bludgeon Brothers | Winner: The Bludgeon Brothers
Once again, I don’t know if it was just because of placement, but this match did nothing for me. It felt like a squash match, and while I’m very happy the Bludgeon Brothers finally get some gold, the Usos deserved better on their first WrestleMania on the main card. Congrats to the Bludgeon Brothers. I just wish the match went longer/better. It felt like it was squeezed in.
(gif credit to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
9. John Cena vs. Elias The Undertaker | Winner: The Undertaker
Speaking of, this section was a bit of a mess in my opinion. So first, John Cena, who swore to attend as a fan, comes out. He waits patiently for the Undertaker. Suddenly the lights go dark. I look over to my family and tell them “Plot twist, it’s gonna be Elias”. And guess who came out...
ELIAS!
Now, here’s the thing. I actually wanted to SEE this fight. I believe it was the Christmas Raw where they had a great match, and since then, I’ve been calling for Elias vs. Cena at Mania. What I did NOT want to see, however, was Elias get squashed at Mania.
But then, we see the lights go out again, and we’re met with this sight.
To be honest, I half expected this to drag out until SummerSlam, so I’m happy I’m wrong with that. But this was not the fabled Cena vs. Undertaker match everyone dreamed of. It was another squash match at best, and Cena looked downright terrified the whole time.
Is this not what you wanted????
Anyway, the match was relatively quick, which was good for Taker’s sake. And he left with a victory in New Orleans, where he suffered his loss. I said it last year and I’ll say it again. Thank you, Taker.
(gif credits to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
10. Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens vs. Shane McMahon and Daniel Bryan | Winner: Shane McMahon and Daniel Bryan
I’m gonna be honest, any Shane match gives me a high level of anxiety, but Shane and DANIEL BRYAN made it even stronger. I was super excited for this match but also dreading it at the same time. I am a Daniel Bryan fan, but I was really worried about him getting back in the ring, especially at Mania where his adrenaline will be so high. But damn, was it good to see Bryan in a wrestling ring again.
First note, SHANE TOOK A BEATING! And I was surprised he did, especially since he actually did have diverticulitis not too long ago. He is a trooper, and did some great moves.
Now onto DANIEL BRYAN! I’m sorry, I really never thought I’d get to analyze Daniel’s fighting again. This is Lita at the Rumble all over again. At least I didn’t cry this time. (Lita was my idol growing up, I was sensitive!)
Anyway, back on topic. I was worried about Daniel, but I was very happy with what I saw. First of all, there was no sign of ring rust, which is great. Second, he seems to have modified his style a lot, which I’m thankful for. Everything is done safer, and with a lot more care, even the high risk moves.
There are still some things he has to still modify for safety (no more dropkicks, please), and some moves people have to be really careful delivering (WHO BOOKED HIS FIRST MATCH AGAINST SAMI “HELLUVA KICK” ZAYN???), but other than that, he looked great in his comeback.
And man, was it great to see the YES lock again.
Welcome back, Daniel. We missed you.
(gif credit to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
11. Alexa Bliss (champ) vs. Nia Jax | Winner: Nia Jax
First of all, I am so happy these best friends got to share this WrestleMania moment, They both deserve it. And before I talk about the match, let me talk about Alexa’s amazing entrance. She really is a goddess.
(gif credit to @jarillian)
I know a lot of people were salty about the bodyshaming angle, but this was storytelling at its finest. Even the match told a story with every move.
First, Nia had some great strategy with taking Mickie out first. It was smart and gave her the advantage. I do wish that Mickie gets a push after this tho. Maybe a feud with Nia?
(gif credit to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
I was a bit worried that this would be a squash match, but that wasn’t the case. Between a Twisted Bliss from the ringpost, a drop off the second rope and some great storytelling, this was actually a pretty good match.
(gif credit t @jarillian)
Congrats Nia. You definitely earned it, and your title reign is already inspirational to so many.
(gif credit to @jimdrugfree)
12. AJ Styles (champ) vs. Shinsuke Nakamura | Winner: AJ Styles
Let me start by RAVING over this work of art that was Shinsuke’s entrance. Loving the rock version. Can that be his new theme, please?
(gif credit to @frentique)
On paper, this match was a great one. Some may even say it was a dream match. However, the entire match very much favored AJ. AJ looked great, showing off his strength and his technical fighting, but for some reason, it didn’t seem to do much to help Shinsuke, making Asuka and Charlotte outshine them.
I was disappointed in Shinsuke’s loss, but I see him come in with the belt and present it to AJ. I’m ready to praise him for being so classy, until...
The low blow seen round the world!
Earlier in the day, Shinsuke said that WrestleMania would mark the beginning of his story, and he is not wrong. I’m excited to see the new, heel Shinsuke.
13. The Bar (champ) vs. Braun Strowman and his mystery partner | Winner: Braun Strowman and... NICHOLAS???
Mark the day down, guys. April 8, 2018 was the day that Braun “Flipped Over an Ambulance with Someone In It” Strowman officially turned into a babyface. How this happened? I have no idea. Am I here for it? Hell yes!
For weeks, Braun had been needing a partner for this match. He comes out alone, and I’m thinking Big Show or Samoa Joe or Big Cass is gonna come out... Nothing happens. Suddenly he declares he’s gonna have a partner from the crowd. I’m suspicious, but I figure this is gonna be a Santino Marella moment and there’ll be a wrestler in the crowd that’s gonna come up this way. Until he chooses the smallest little boy he could find.
Nicholas, the most terrified little boy I’ve ever seen, was his tag team partner, and if it couldn’t get any better, he actually tagged him in for a hot second.
Despite this hilarious twist of events, Braun singlehandedly (no shade to Nick) won the belts, in what was a pretty good match. It was short, but it was good.
And so now, half of the Raw Tag champs is a child. This is bizarre in the best way, and I’m excited to see who replaces Nicholas on Raw tonight. (SOMEONE HAS TO, RIGHT?)
Congrats, Nicholas. You got your WrestleMania moment.
(gif credit to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
14. Brock Lesnar (champ) vs. Roman Reigns | Winner: Brock Lesnar
And so... the main event of the night. I wish I had something more positive to say. This match was... not the best. Roman gave everything he had, and Brock... well, he gave his suplexes and F5′s, but not much else. In terms of brute strength, this match was up there, as it’s not easy to get slammed through a table, but it wasn’t very exciting, and it got a bit scary when Brock busted Roman’s head open and he started gushing. By the end, he was covered in his own blood, and he lost. I really am disappointed in this, because the fans were FINALLY starting to get behind Roman. He was at a spot where giving him the belt would have actually resulted in some CHEERS, which is something he’s struggled to get, even though he’s one of the best in the business right now. I just don’t get why you would have Roman defending the full time talent and finally getting over just to have him lose. I just don’t get it. I will end with a Roman gif, because he deserved better last night.
(gif credit to @machomanwrestlinghistory)
Other notes/rants: -Literally when is Carmella gonna cash in this MITB? I’m starting to worry that she’s either gonna time out, or she’s gonna waste it. She’s already held it the longest out of anyone EVER. Let her have her moment. -Not only did Rusev get screwed, he was the one who got pinned. -_- -The Usos have been the face of the Tag Division for the longest time, and have basically owned the Smackdown Tag belts all year. This match was a disservice. -What was the point of Royal Rumble PPV? Both winners (and both Japanese wrestlers, might I add) lost in their opportunities. I’m disappointed Asuka and Shinsuke didn’t get the WrestleMania moments they deserved. -I totally forgot to say that Kurt looked great in the ring too. Good job! -The Undertaker match was severely underwhelming. Now that he’s righted the wrong that took place in New Orleans tho, let us please take a note from him and let him rest in peace. -Wondering where Cena goes from here... -As for Ronda’s next opponent, I wanna see either Charlotte, Becky or Sonya. Charlotte is the money fight. Becky would be putting armbar against armbar, and Sonya would just be a great MMA vs MMA match. I also wanna see her fight Alexa cuz I need to see Alexa pull her “broken arm” move on Ronda! -GOD I LOVE SEEING DANIEL FIGHT AGAIN -First order of business, getting Miz and Daniel on the same brand again. That is NOT over yet. -Can we get Mickie turning heel and getting pushed please?? -***I very much respect Ronda as an athlete. I do not agree with her comments, and I don’t like her very much as a person, but she is undeniably talented, and I wish her happiness and success. -So is Nicholas gonna drop out of school and defend the belt with Braun now???? -I’m gonna pretend the night ended with Nicholas.
#wrestlemania review#wwe#raw#smackdown live#woken matt hardy#bray wyatt#cedric alexander#naomi#seth rollins#charlotte#asuka#finn balor#jinder mahal#rusev#stephanie mcmahon#triple h#ronda rousey#bludgeon brothers#elias#the undertaker#nia jax#alexa bliss#daniel bryan#Shane McMahon#braun strowman#roman reigns#wrestlemania#wrestlemania 34
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June 22nd, 2017 CTP Archive
The archive for the Comic Tea Party chat that occurred on June 22nd, 2017, from 5PM - 7PM PST. The chat focused on The Angel with Black Wings by Mharz.
Featured Comment:
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RebelVampire
Good day everyone~! This week’s Comic Tea Party is now officially beginning. Today we are discussing The Angel with Black Wings by Mharz~! (https://tapas.io/series/tabw) For those new to CTP, discussions about the comic are freeform, so please feel free to bring up whatever you wish. However, every 30 minutes I will be dropping in a discussion question to help those who would like a prompt. These questions are totally OPTIONAL to answer so pay them no mind if you wish~! Remember, constructive criticism is allowed, but the primary focus here is to have fun and appreciate the amazing comics that the community makes~! Each chat a top comment will be picked and featured on an ad for this chat, so let’s have a great discussion~! With that said, let us begin with this first question~!
QUESTION 1. What is your favorite scene in the comic so far and why?
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
When Ray was beaten up by the bullies and big Sis wanted to help him but she was stopped by Silver. I think that scene was really impressive, it was strong with so many feelings and gave us the hint that things would just go deeper. Ray's expression passing from "hey I have a guardian angel, things will go well now" to "oh no she's leaving me alone" was pretty good. Don't misunderstand me I like see Ray being beaten up LOL, just, that scene was like "OMG WHAT"
mathtans
(I'll be back as soon as I take care of dinner. ^.^)
RebelVampire
yeah i really liked the imagery for the angel walking away in that scene. it was really powerful and sad overall. especially the one panel where ray had blurred vision cause it was like "oh shit this guy is seriously hurt."
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I think it was very well done, specially considering the previous events of interactions between Ray and Big Sis, you could think she would help him out like with the thing with the apple at the lunch time, but nope
Other good scene was, in recent chapters, when Mara stood up against her "friends"
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Hrrrm. I feel like when Mara was trying to apologize to Ray, that was kind of a powerful moment. I feel like Ray's just so angry about things, though understandably so. I've been in that sorta boat myself so I can sympathize a bit with his position.
DracoPlato
so I just reread it so it's fresh in my mind
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I feel for Mara too, though.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Same Kabocha, that was a good one too, you can put in both character's shoes and see things differently
I don't know for which one side
tbh xD
Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing
Another unfortune situation here for me of this is not a comic for me. I was not the audience for this and I am sorry again.
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
that apple scene was odd, theres just a floating apple there i know it was just a reflex but that could been handles quieter(edited)
DracoPlato
I think I liked Silver fighting the demons the most
in the mall
mathtans
That was a good scene. I liked the bit in the hospital with Mara, finding out about her younger brother. Threw some earlier stuff into a new perspective, I like that sort of thing.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Yeah! I mean, there's a part of me that doesn't want him to stay angry about it, because it's so unhealthy. >_> I wanna know why Big Sis is tryin' to push forgiveness so hard tho. What exactly did she dooooo
Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing
I like the art, I think it is really cool! I also really like the design of Silver. But I couldn't read the story after the first chapter.
mathtans
I think black wings come from being unforgiven, maybe.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Why are her wings black, like what did she do to deserve it
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
well most people would call a black winged angel a fallen angel so big sis probably did some dark shit to earn that(edited)
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I IS HERE!!!!
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DracoPlato
YAY~!
Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing
Since I feel pretty unrelevant for this particular situation, I will just quickly throw my thoughts in
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
and probably because of that Big Sis is usually lonely
Hey Mharz!
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
@Queen Brave Hikari of Memes -- I agreeeee. I wanna know more RIGHT NAU
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
The dream scene was also powerful one
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
:y
RebelVampire
i think my favorite scene in the comic is actually when ray first talks to the angel just because i thought him so nervous about giving her a gift was adorable
DracoPlato
oh i did like that
Respheal
Aww yeah xD
DracoPlato
as i thought Ray you're just wasting your money giving a physical object to an angel
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray being so cute cute
I was like "c'mon big sis, at least accept it!"
AngelicEmpyress
im here... unprepared but here
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
"he used some bucks for you"
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
oh Ray has someone who's giving him allowance. He's a school boy. XD
DracoPlato
I had forgotten in the beginning all the foreshadowing that the angel and ray being friends was part of some bigger plan and ray had a sort of mission
Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing
Feather thoughts: As someone not part of this audience for this comic, I really loved the art and the design of Silver. Particularly for me, I am not a fan of characters in high school setting unless it's has some sort of fighting like a fighting high school or training people to fight. I also couldn't help but feel really disconnected because I think black wings as people who are part Tengu from too many things I have seen, or crow wings which I love. I am also not fond of stories about Angels unless it's of course, super action intense. Apparently there is fighting later but I don't have the capacity to read through to find the fighting scenes. I hope the comic gets a lot more viewers because it seems awesome but I myself am sorry I can not add to that count.
RebelVampire
mharz speaking of him getting the angel a present, i wanna ask, was that a lot of money or not? cause i converted it to $ but obviously expense depends a lot on the costs around them
Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing
Anyways I will be heading out soon so enjoy yourselves everyone
AngelicEmpyress
thanks feather!
Feather, Duke of Comedic Timing
Mharz is indeed so good at drawing wings
mathtans
Silver is so cool. She's, like, having to balance everything out between the angels and humans. I feel.
AngelicEmpyress
i know!! i want to draw wings like that
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Silver is fucking best
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
@RebelVampire it's around 1-ish bucksss
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I love her in deisgn and personality
AkaLevi
silver is a goddess
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
OMG
mathtans
Oh yeah, hey, I like the little spanish touches like the pesos.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Silver's hilarious. :3
Respheal
The Silver 4koma comics are
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Pesos is actually our currency here as well
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I actually really like the bonus drawings Mharz does for her XD
DracoPlato
I was actually surprised how serious silver is in story rereading it XD
RebelVampire
i appreciate how more mature silver is than all the others
DracoPlato
cause i'm so used to all of Mharz's doodles of her
Respheal
lol!
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
4koma!silver is a troll :3
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
@DracoPlato You haven't seen nothing yet.
mathtans
Well, all the local references I probably should have said. I'm ignorant.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
lmao what about Daddy SIlver
tsk tsk
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Silver is the sunshine from all the broods and angst.
mathtans
Oh, some of those bonus drawings, wow... I was laughing so much at the Q&A, well played...
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I liked when they were in the dream, and Ray was "what's going on?" Silver "well, IDK"
JUST
screms
mathtans
Hahahaha.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Silver might know and just trollin' as always
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Silver and Big sis also said they can't really talk directly with people, right?
so even if she knew, she really shouldn't tell 'im
she's just followin' da rulez.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
still was funny
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Oh, yeah. >:3
RebelVampire
silver is a rule follower which i can appreciate :"D
mathtans
Does anyone else think Mara can see angels? I think she can see angels.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I like that Silver is pulling off that image of funny angel who knows nothing, when actually she knows everything and when she gets serious WE ALL WILL DIE
screms
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Silver strikes me as someone who engages in malicious compliance >:3
DracoPlato
well she was going to tell Ray but someone stopped her
more than her just being a troll about it
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
@AkaLevi Did you say goddess???? :V
mathtans
Silver got serious with demons, wooo.
AngelicEmpyress
wants to draw as good as mharz ;-;
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
God: "Woah there Silver-daughteru, you can't just tell people, wtf, I told you not to"
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
@mathtans -- I think Mara is sensitive at minimum, but maybe not able to fully see them
DracoPlato
the sleeve kind of looked like Big Sis's
of the person that stopped her
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I get the idea that she's aware of their presence 'nat
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
She WAS really going to spoil stuffs at Ray. I guess the universe just doesn't want to. (namely me)
mathtans
kabocha: Fair point there. Hmmmm.
RebelVampire
@mathtans @kabocha, baroness of sparkles Yeah i dont think mara can full see them. i think she just trusts her senses
DracoPlato
but i don't think silver would be stopped by Big Sis in that moment
so it made me wonder if it was one of the spoiler characters
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Plot twist, Mharz is the real god and somehow we'll see her in the comic :y
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
oh course mharz is there god, she made them
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
don't kill my jokes reee
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
i wasn't trying to
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
LOOOOOL
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Silver I summon you, save me
I wanna know more about Raphael too (husbando)
he looks interesting in design, but hasn't done much
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
@Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings so she believes in sweating out a fever lmao
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
yus
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
>Ironically works
RebelVampire
yeah raphael made me curious. especially cause he looked at them all like they was up to no good
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
i'm sure raph is just a busy guy so he can't hang around often
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
He is super busy
XD
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Theory: Raphael is super serious dude who likes sweets
mathtans
Here's another off the wall theory: Big Sis actually IS Ray's big sister, that he didn't know he had. And she can't forgive herself for dying before meeting here, and she thinks he won't forgive her either. ^^
AngelicEmpyress
i like that theory lol
RebelVampire
lol omg
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
WHAT
screming
Respheal
O:
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I like it too
AkaLevi
my brain just exploded
RebelVampire
can only picture ray being like "HOW DARE YOU DIE EVEN THO YOU PROBABLY COULDNT CONTROL IT"
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
we're going very deep lmao
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I dunno, I was partially subscribing to the theory that Big Sis was somehow responsible for Ray's suffering >_> .............
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I have another theory
mathtans
Well, that's compatible with my theory. ^.^
I think outside the box. Most boxes.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
yay box!
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Big Sis is actually Ray's guardian, but because of something she did, she was made get away from him
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
she killed his parents.
has hit morbid hour
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
pretty much what I was thinking
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
what that turned dark
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
well, I mean
her wings are black for a reason
and what sort of grave sin has she committed~?
mathtans
OOooooh.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
okay I'm going to stop with the crazy mass guessing now
RebelVampire
might as well hit the second question early XD
AkaLevi
continue please
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
In theory, according to the story, a sin made by a guardian would be interfiering with the normal life of mortals, which they shouldn't, cause they must let people live whatever it's happening, all they can do is guide them, but if that doesn't work, rip
RebelVampire
QUESTION 2. The most poignant mystery in the entire comic is the story behind the Angel’s black wings. Though the story has hinted she did something terrible/rule-breaking to earn them, little else has been revealed. Why do you think the Angel has black wings (or, in other words, what terrible crime has she committed)? How will this affect the future of the story?
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
saw the spoiler animaotin mharz did
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
o_o
I wanna see it
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
NO
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
A fallen angel has only one path
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I'VE ERASED IT FROM EXISTENCE
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
that is
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
:Y
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
hell
mathtans
The black wings are a fashion choice.
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
i can't say it cuase spoilers
DracoPlato
I think she stabbed someone with scissors(edited)
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
are we ready to go down right
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
@Queen Brave Hikari of Memes but has she fallen yet?
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Draco LOL
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
maybe she's ABOUT TO
DracoPlato
I'm really branching out there
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
theory time again
She needs another trigger and then BOOM, fallen Big Sis appears
mathtans
Maybe she's part demon? ^.^
That's why they want her back? ^.^
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
well mharz in all fairness from a number of related things you made it does hint that big sis did fuck up someones day with scissors(edited)
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
WELP.
mathtans
She ran with scissors. That's a no-no.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
And she gets a hair color change too, yeh?
DracoPlato
well we already know she broke the angel rules not to interfere with humans, and she stabbed some humans with scissors defending someone
based on what's been shown
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
oh my god
So, based on the theories here, let's come up with something
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
All of our theories says Big Sis f-cked up and she'll go more down in the deep
DracoPlato
probably the more angel rules you break the more you become a demon
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
tumbling down tumbling down
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Here's what we definitely know 1. Big Sis, based on evidence, was human at one point. 2. Ray's parents are gone. 3. Big Sis did something horrible.
RebelVampire
maybe she used scissors cause the thought that somehow itd be a loophole in the angel rules
DracoPlato
her powers were black too when she was going to protect ray
Respheal
I figure it's something she was pretty much forced into doing like...if I don't do this things will be much worse
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I imagine the angel's rules like the book from Fairy Oddparents DA RULEZ
rip
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
ergo: Big sis was ray's big sis. She kept watching him after she passed, and eventually killed their parents to protect him.
WITH SCISSORS.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Brave, somehow I was imagining that too.
XD
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Raphael is Jorgen(edited)
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
but smol(edited)
AkaLevi
but how Ray doesn´t remember her then?
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
We can all be buffed Jojo's in our hearts
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Because he could have been an infant.
or very young
mathtans
Doing evil for the "greater good" kind of thing.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
most kids don't remember anything before 3years of age
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
road to hell as they say
AkaLevi
true
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
morbid crack theory: established.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Does Ray even have a good memory?
or maybe trauma could make him forget
RebelVampire
i wouldnt be surprised ray doesnt remember having a sister cause in all the time of being friends with mara it never came up she had a bro XD
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I am so reading the archive of this.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
another theory time lol
DracoPlato
if she killed his parents though that kind of goes against her personality though since she was most likely protecting someone
so they'd have to of been doing something cruel at the time
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
@DracoPlato --- yeah, I think that's about the only reason she'd have done it. Serious abuse or something.
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
maybe too much booz
DracoPlato
angel went to too many bars
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Though, one thing to discredit this: don't angels appear at the same age as they died?
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
rip
uhmm idk that
Respheal
There can be a significant age difference between siblings
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Based on Mara's brother anyway
That's true, Res
Big Sis strikes me as 30s tho
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Maybe Mara's case is a special one?
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I personally have a 15 years gap with my sister
:V
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
HMMMMM
Mharz is not discrediting the theory.
HMMMMM!!!!
mathtans
Maybe one of Ray's parents was a demon! So Big Sis killed the demon, not knowing!
Respheal
HMMMM
lols(edited)
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Mharz will make us all think we're correct
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
and then we'll find out Big Sis is actually Ray's mom.
mathtans
If one of Ray's parents was a demon, it explains why he can see them.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
omfg
but wait
RebelVampire
i vote for ray being half demon O_O
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
in latest episodes, Mara hinted like she thanked to big Sis
RebelVampire
mostly cause i want that
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
what if she also is kinda like Ray
what if having an angel as a dead sibling gives you the ability to see them
oh no I killed the chat
oh there we go
DracoPlato
half demon ray, hell yeah
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
lololol
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I can't quite remember, but I think angels can kinda choose to share their aura with someone?
or something like that?
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
DracoPlato
kabo did make me think he probably witnessed the angel stabbing people when he was a child
that's why her face was familiar
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Mmm. Maybe he remembers her protecting him as a youngin.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
He could had gotten a trauma
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
So, if Big Sis is not a family member of Ray's, then she definitely did something to his formerly living family to protect him.
RebelVampire
maybe the angel kidnapped ray from his parents and took him to her murder house
DracoPlato
LOL
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Mharz, I'm thinking there's a yandere Big Sis AU.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I'm honestly getting terrified with all your crazy theories. XD
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
LOL
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
OMG
mathtans
Because they're all true?
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I-I.........
rip
xD
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
who knows?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mathtans
Silver knows, but she's not telling.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Silver knows everything
AkaLevi
yandere big sis....interesting
RebelVampire
yeah i really wanna know who stopped silver from blabbing everything
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Theory: Silver is satan
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
few people know the truth
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I would be scared at yandere big sis
DracoPlato
you're secretly a wizard ray
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
MHARZ HAS SAID SOMEONE HIT TOO CLOSE TO HOME
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I mean look at her gigantic scissors
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
someone did it?
who
AngelicEmpyress
ooooo
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
so many questions
AngelicEmpyress
suspense
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I'm deeply curious, but it's a seekrit
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I ain't telling LOL.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
the answers lie within the chat
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
THE ANSWER IS IN YOUR HEART
RebelVampire
a mystery
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
BELIEVE IN THE HEART OF THE CARDS
RebelVampire
i guess everyone will have to comb the archive
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
My kokoro tells me we're all right
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
damn it yugi
mathtans
Mara was Silver the WHOLE TIME.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Silver is Mara's Alter Ego.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
HOW
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
you never see them in the same place!
DracoPlato
mara is the Angel's past
and Ray is the angel's husbandu
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Mara is the reincarnation of Big Sis's sis
DracoPlato
and she's gone to the past to save him
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Draco how is that possible?(edited)
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
lel
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Ohh, that's a really good question -- do the angels have the ability to time travel
RebelVampire
maybe ray and the angel are the same person then. and when the moon goes up ray and mara become magical angel girls
DracoPlato
TIME TRAVEL
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
ARE THEY DISPLACED TEMPORALLY
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Draco this isn't Zenchav. :V
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
And this is how Silver knows Lyall.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Angels in Mharz's universe don't age right
rip
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
everything leads back to zenchav.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
they don't....
DracoPlato
i think it has been mentioned once in every chat
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
WHERE ARE THE KIDS
mathtans
The angels fly at 88mph.
RebelVampire
speaking of angels aging, did we learn what happens when angels die? besides disappearing i mean
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Now I want over +100 kids of Silver and Big Sis
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
OMG CALI LIVES!!!
RebelVampire
like
are they gone poof forever
DracoPlato
oh i did wonder that too
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
am i late
DracoPlato
what is the after life for an angel
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Do they have a chance to be reborn?
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
sup cali
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
CALI
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Brave that's seems not a good idea
nah yer good cali
RebelVampire
no youre late cali
to the stocks with you
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
rip
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
rip
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
for some reason I thought someone said "Super cali" and I was like, where's the rest of the dang line
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
cali was good soul...until she was late
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
people die when they killed
DracoPlato
omg i wasn't online
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Anyway, so yeah, what happens to angels after THEY die? Do they reincarnate? Do they disappear? Are they gone?
what happens to a destroyed soul
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
the acher class really is made of archers
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Angels can be reborn as humans?
mathtans
When angels die, they become clouds.
RebelVampire
do they become demons because they failed their angelic duty
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
gasp
DracoPlato
when an angel dies do they go to another story
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
omg
DracoPlato
story reincarnation
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
damn it draco
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
totaly makes sense
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I'd totally laugh if cali slept thru it after going thru the effort of rereading it. XD
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
rip
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
she still kinda made it
we're just on q5
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
pats cali
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
i missed the 30 first mins of it
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
hugs cali
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
lol
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Cali: we think Big sis killed ray's parents prolly
RebelVampire
assuming theyre dead. maybe theyre just abroad
having fun without ray
cause fuck ray
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
LOOOL
mathtans
Also one of ray's parents was a demon.
DracoPlato
i thought his dad was still alive
RebelVampire
yes demon ray canon accepted
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
"Abroad" is code for dead.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray's Daddy is a demon
screms
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Ray's dad is .... Rex?
DracoPlato
ray's father is damon
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
it was rex the whole time
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Oh no
Damon and Ray are related!!!
gasp
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
TAWB X Zenchav
THE CROSSOVER
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
why zenchav connect to eveything now
DracoPlato
ray you're damon's brother via rex
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Because it's a thing.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
because Zenchav is everything
we're all Damon's childs
DracoPlato
it gives us life
yus
RebelVampire
because time traveling space macaroon
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
i do feel like big sis might have something to do with his parents tho
:y
DracoPlato
loooool
silver is ray's mother and father
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip Ray
mathtans
Because time travel, Draco?
RebelVampire
idk tho. are his parents even relevant. cause i mean besides the fact they arent present, the fact they havent been mentioned makes me wonder if they matter
DracoPlato
always time travel
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Poor Ray.
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
his mom was mentioned once
but ray dodged the question
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I feel like I remember his mom being dead.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
He lives alone tho
DracoPlato
i used to think the angel was his mom
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
same
:' D
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
but silver is mom
RebelVampire
maybe the angel is his grandma
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Silver is dad
DracoPlato
i did wonder if she was grandma in the reread
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
silver is all
RebelVampire
didnt get her grandson enough presents
AkaLevi
we are silver
RebelVampire
failed her grandma duty
DracoPlato
but i dunno, based on my spoiler timeline
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
draco keeps a spoiler timeline??
DracoPlato
in my head
AngelicEmpyress
lol
DracoPlato
always
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
LOLOLOL
AngelicEmpyress
draco keeps everything in head
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
No Fair, Draco, you know spoilers.
mathtans
Maybe Big Sis is the mom of that bully character. Maybe that's why the wings are black.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
wot
DracoPlato
her wings are black cause her son is a jack ass
wha
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
her wings are black because fashion
mathtans
And she's all "you can never forgive my son? harsh"
RebelVampire
lol thatd actually be kind of funny
if the angel was the mom of that bully
DracoPlato
bullies have feelings too ray
RebelVampire
who always beats ray up
takes his lunch money
mathtans
She probably always wanted to hit him with an apple.
DracoPlato
i would love that XD it'd be so out of the blue
mathtans
But was too nice.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray is actually the MC of a harem drama manga
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
gott throw all the apples
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
So, serious question. Is Ray using Big Sis as a surrogate for actual human friendships at this point? I worry about him a little!
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
N-Notice me, Ray senpai
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
brave he isn't already?
DracoPlato
the apple is the prelude to the angel's death note
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I do think Ray will have some humans friends at some point
mathtans
kabocha: Good point! I wonder if that's a bit of why he doesn't want to forgive Mara? He prefers angel relationships to human ones now.
AngelicEmpyress
lol draco
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
he can't be friends with "something" only he can see
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
becos humans suck???
:V
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
almost like an imaginary friend
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Angels are basically perfect and not likely to not harm him emotionally. ... He thinks.
oh god, whatever Big Sis did is going to hurt him isn't it.
DracoPlato
someone is human racist
mathtans
But he's met Silver. ^.^
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
it's going to like, really, really hurt whenever that's revealed.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I am human racist (?)
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
RebelVampire
i think ray is using big sis to project that he doesnt want to believe ppl are awful but if he admits that humans arent awful then maybe he has to take responsibility for himself and his own actions.
DracoPlato
nyu mharz
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
in all seriousness tho, I HOPE Ray recovers his friendship with Mara
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Cue Ray running into the arms of demons and having to be saved
DracoPlato
only angel friends are best friends
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
at least in a way
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
though it might be annoying for him that big sis keeps pushing mara's forgiveness on him lol
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
who doesn't want to be bestfriend with a pretty angel?
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
maybe not completely friends, but maybe being in peace with eachother
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
he is quite annoyed about that.
DracoPlato
i dunno, i might just think i'd lost my mind too
gasp is ray just crazy
mathtans
She should probably stop pushing so hard.
It's not working.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
It's more likely Big Sis was talking to herself about forgiveness
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
he even asked why she's so adamant about it.(edited)
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
@Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear -- I sincerely feel like Big Sis is probably aware he's gonna need human friends.
RebelVampire
haha i really loved that scene if only cause i was like "ray are you that dense bro?"
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Because when he figures out whatever she did.... NOPE BAD THINGS DRAMA ANGST RAY
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Plot twist: his future friends will be the bullies
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
LMAO
AkaLevi
lol
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
this is all in Big Sis plans
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
drama angst. XD
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
MORE DRAMA
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
ALL THE DRAMA
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
EMOTIONAL PAIIIIIIIIIN
DracoPlato
okay so, i think if the angel said nothing about forgiveness and was just generally kind to him rather than nagging him and showed him what a good person she was and how much she cared that'd actually be more effective for her point about forgiveness
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
how could this happen to meeeeee
DracoPlato
cause in story she seems like just a pushy nag about it
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
HURT PEOPLE WITH EMOTIONS
DracoPlato
and i feel like that just makes it worse in wanting ray to rebel emotionally
mathtans
I made my mistaaaakes, got nowhere to ruuuuun....
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
@DracoPlato -- I do have similar feelings about it. I feel like she's got another motive.
DracoPlato
yeah
RebelVampire
yeah tbh i think the angel is kind of a bad role model for ray cause shes not that emotionally stable it seems like it XD
DracoPlato
i feel like the angel is really selfish
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I think even so, Ray will want to know why, considering his personality, he's going to also be pushy about Sis past
DracoPlato
and she's not speaking for ray's benefit but her own, and in that way i don't feel like she's a nice person
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
freaks out a lot
XD
mathtans
I don't see her as selfish, she doesn't seem to think much about herself.
DracoPlato
but i also don't think ray is that nice of a person either
mathtans
Ray's stubborn.
DracoPlato
cause he's also very self centered
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I considered Big Sis talking more to herself than to Ray, which is why her "advices" doesn't really work(edited)
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
now that you think about it none of these characters are nice...
mathtans
Brave: I can see that.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I'm a great creator!(edited)
DracoPlato
yeah they're all kind of awful people, lol XD
RebelVampire
haha ray tbh has a victim complex to me
DracoPlato
or at least have a lot of emotional growing up to do
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
LOL
DracoPlato
yeah i agree with rebel big time on that
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Same
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Ray needs to be smacked upside the head.
Get Silver to do it.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray puts a huge wall on him about "I WON'T FORGIVE ANY OF YOU FUCKS, LEAVE ME ALONE"
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
he's only 15... he'll learn... probably...
RebelVampire
probably
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray needs a slap from mommy
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
LOOL
mathtans
Perfect people are boooooooring.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
SIlver Mommy
RebelVampire
QUESTION 3. Ray has a strong belief that people are fairly awful. This becomes more evident as Mara, an old friend who betrayed him, now seeks his forgiveness. Of course, in his stubbornness, Ray refuses to forgive her. Do you think that Ray will eventually forgive Mara? Do you think she deserves his forgiveness? What do you think will happen in Mara’s future as far as the plot is concerned, whether she earns forgiveness or not?
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
UHMMMMM
Okay I gotta type this
gimme a bit
DracoPlato
Oh yeah i think he'll forgive her for sure
forgiveness is the overall theme of the story it feels like atm too so if he didn't the theme would fall really flat, lol
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
imagines ray finally forgiving once they're both super old
mathtans
I think she deserves his forgiveness, based on what we've seen. I think she might give up on life now that her brother isn't able to talk to her any more. I don't think he'll forgive her until it's nearly too late.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
LMAO
only forgave on his deathbed
rip
DracoPlato
that'd be awesome XD
RebelVampire
my mind went to dark places. wondered what would happen if mara died before ray could forgive her and thats what makes him realize well shit, not forgiving ppl sucks
DracoPlato
I forgive you now, can i be an angel too?
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
omg
DracoPlato
it's okay
RebelVampire
i think ray should forgive her tho because at the end theyre stupid teens
stupid teens fuck up
DracoPlato
he can forgive her ghost
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Ray is drowned by the guilt? LOL
mathtans
Rebel, that's where I'm kinda going too.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I think Mara is going to be forgiven, at some point, considering they're childhood friends, Ray's development could lead to him actually doing it because of the good times. But ALSO, I think Mara will try to do stuff so Ray will see she has changed for good. Like Ray has hinted: he won't forgive cause they don't even try to repair what they ahve done. So I think we'll have some sort of Mara's redemption on ehr own, maybe with small things
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
wooh, zoned out ofr a minute.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
breathes in
mathtans
Draco: Do ghosts exist in this world? Or only angels?
DracoPlato
oh that's a good question
only Mharz knows
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
there are spirits
mathtans
Like bourbon, vodka...
DracoPlato
LOL
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
-Ray is pretty immature at times. I feel like he needs to get over his issues with people being awful -- tbh all we've seen is his issues with classmates being horrible, but not much interaction with adults? So I guess he's mid angst. Still going with the "my parents are DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD" theory. I do think Ray will forgive her. It might be far off. He's very stuck in his own self-wallowing.
RebelVampire
idk if mara should work that hard for redemption. tbh i think its ray who needs to work hard because at this point hes just being stubborn
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
would be a cruel twist if ray someday was ready to forgive her when she suddenly dies somehow
RebelVampire
no no there was that one interaction with the old lady who brought him food
DracoPlato
In ray's interactions with adults he's always lying
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
CALI NO
DracoPlato
saying everything is okay
RebelVampire
and then he was like "BLEH SHE DOESNT CARE"
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
DIS PEAR
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
cali stop
DracoPlato
yeah wtf ray she just gave you food
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
keep your pears in your comic
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
chapter 4 :3
AkaLevi
nice Cali xD
DracoPlato
This nice old lady gave me food but fuq her, she doesn't care about me
RebelVampire
angels are ghosts confirmed
mathtans
Good callback.
DracoPlato
i see why people beat you up ray
RebelVampire
yeah i really disliked ray with the old lady
like wtf bro
she was checking up on you
and you like i hate you
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
:V
DracoPlato
so i guess "mere soul" is ghost
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
yus
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
"ooo lady gives me food and i live alone now i don't have to cook/buy food" "PEOPLE SUCK SHE DIDN'T CARE SHES A BECH"
RebelVampire
what happens to the mere soul tho if it doesnt become an angel
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Ray is a teenage boy...
RebelVampire
is it a ghost 5ever?
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Ray in a nutshell
DracoPlato
yeah how does this ghost thing work long term
are just just a ghost forever
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray being Ray
mathtans
Until your ghost wings fall off. ^.^
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
mara's ghost forever haunting ray
DracoPlato
not my ghost wings
RebelVampire
the ghosts of rays parents are there the whole time and only the angel can see them
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
works the same they stay in heaven or hell if they good or bad
once the time comes
XD
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
rip
DracoPlato
so when an angel dies they just go to heaven?
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Cali wants Mara dead
I can see it in her eyes
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
nu
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Oh god, Mara's gonna die
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
MORE DRAMA
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip Mara
DracoPlato
why is it different for ghosts dying tho
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
OMG
DracoPlato
than angels dying
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
WITH EXPLOSIONS
DracoPlato
if they're both vehicle less at that point
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
So then canon Mara dies so we see how her spirit goes out and works
DracoPlato
so really both are just a soul
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
that's the thing
mathtans
But it's only temporarily dead. She's too cute to die for reals!
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
souls can dissapate as well... since they have no bodies anymore.
DracoPlato
so why do some souls go to heaven and some just go away forever
RebelVampire
so are we saying if they dissapate they just cease to exist?
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
:V
DracoPlato
that doesn't make much sense XD
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
"No comment"
AkaLevi
reincarnation is not a thing then?
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
that's what I'm taking :V as
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
LOOL
DracoPlato
if there's a hell too then why would souls ever just disappear forever
if there's places that others go
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
so they die if they're killed, forever
DracoPlato
omg brave
it's a true statement now
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
people die when they're killed
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
angels die if they are killed
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I SAW IT, I SEE THE FUTURE, YOU DOUBTED ABOUT ME
RebelVampire
the angels go to the super afterlife
DracoPlato
but not you random soul, you get to go to heaven, yay
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
quick, someone draw ray doing the shirou face
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
angels go to angel valhalla
DracoPlato
unlike you other random soul who sucks and gets to never exist again
mathtans
Angels dye when they're bored. Hence black wings.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
LOL
RebelVampire
LOL
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
that's what actually happened. Big Sis dyed her wings black becos it's fashionable
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
she wanted to be known as the emo angel
RebelVampire
and everyone just pretends she did something bad
mathtans
Trendsetter.
RebelVampire
so she can seem edgy
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
well she did a pretty good job
:V
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
edgyy
I want Silver with black wings now
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
edgy silver
RebelVampire
now picturing the angel and silver as 90s street punks
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
yis
RebelVampire
silver with a pompadour
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
LOL
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
oh that doesn't suit her
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
omg
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
XD
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I imagined them like KISS
Help
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
AkaLevi
god xD
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
i wanna see both of those
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I'm not in my tablet rn
XD
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Mhaaaaaarz drawwwww
DRAW ON THE FLOOR
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
wat
RebelVampire
draw with your life blood
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
^I ws about to type the blood
edgy
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
draw with mara's blood
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
oh god
Cali
DracoPlato
loooool
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Cali wants to see everyone dying
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
We're going to see a page in psycheteria show up with Mara dead.
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
that'll be her cameo
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I imagine Silver being a Dezar with a face paint
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
her dead
LOL
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I would pay for that
RebelVampire
mara was sen's dead sister all alone
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
dun dun dun
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
OMG
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Mara's Angel was Sen in disguise
then got sent to Fenaur
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
We'll go to Fenaur now
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
thats the true afterlife
of dead angels
get reborn to fenaur
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Cali will make it canon and possible
I believe in her
RebelVampire
anyway
i wonder if mara knows her bro is gone. or does she just think he went on angel vacation
DracoPlato
oh i wondered that too
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
that'd be awkward if ray had to bring it up in some way
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I think she has an inkling
DracoPlato
i'm sorry mara, your brother died.....again
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
What if she saw him in a dream before he finally vanished, so because of that Mara changed?
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
"hey uh mara your brother was an angel and i think he angel died sorry about that"
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Like, she's changing because of her bro
mathtans
Brave: I can see that.
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
i wonder if he warned her in dream that he won't be there for her much longer
in that sense
mathtans
"You need to make some human friends again"
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I read that as "that she won't be there for much longer"
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
It would be possible, with his last's energy
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
and I was like, damn, Cali, you really wanna see Mara ded.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
"you need REAL friends"
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
"real friends aka ray because forgiveness hunting is a fun thing we like to watch"
AkaLevi
who doesn´t wanna see Mara dead?
RebelVampire
i wonder why mara's bro didnt point out her girl friends were bitches
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Maybe he couldn't really interfiere?
mathtans
I don't wanna see Mara dead! She's been through enough already. And I like her hairstyle.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
liek because it was her decision and shit
RebelVampire
i dont wanna see mara dead even tho i think itd be a dark twist
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
liek because it was her decision and shit
RebelVampire
i dont wanna see mara dead even tho i think itd be a dark twist
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
uhhh I don't... that would be bad
edgy Silver and Dezar
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Mara is plot relevant and therefore cannot die.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
omfg
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
PLOT ARMOR.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
so then her part time job...
mathtans
kabocha: Plot includes angels. I think death is fair game.
DracoPlato
true
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
actually don't wanna see mara dead either, i like her a little more than Ray :y
RebelVampire
i would like to see more of the demons in the story
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I like Ray in certain moments in the comic
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
" a little more"
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
MORE DEMONS
RebelVampire
meet the demon who got ostracized for being not evil enough
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
aka, when he's not agnsty
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
demon beefcake.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
oh true, more demons
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
i read that as damon beefcake
RebelVampire
cause iirc they wanted to bring in the angel
DracoPlato
ray has non angsty moments? XD
RebelVampire
cause they were like yaay evil angel
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
OMG
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
like their real goal with the attack
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
beefcake babies
DracoPlato
LOL
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
DAMON!
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
rip
DracoPlato
that damn demon damon
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
oh that reminds me
while i was rereading
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
It's official, for now on, I'll put Zenchav as the top of the line of how our universe works, like Zenchav in the god place
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
one of the demons kinda had ray-hair for one of the panels
and made me like
"OMG WHAT IF RAY'S DAD WAS A DEMON OR SOMETHING"
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Daddy demon might be a thing
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
oh god, demon blood theory is back. This could be a thing.
RebelVampire
we already headcanoned ray as a half demon while you werent here
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
gdi
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
daddy
RebelVampire
ray's father satan confirmed
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip cali
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
ray's father actually rex
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
those 30 minutes were good as theories
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
you have a brother now damon
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
we stated that too
DracoPlato
looool
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Damon is the father of all of us
no exceptions
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
this is what i get for sleeping late rip
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
rip
DracoPlato
well i can explain the whole universe if needed, but at another time, lol
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I read that as I can explain how the universe ended
AngelicEmpyress
i want to be there when you do drace ^_^
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
llooool
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
AngelicEmpyress
draco >.>
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
But from death everything comes to life again
or some shit like that
DracoPlato
i got the deepest rabbit hole
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
like ray's ability to forgive
maybe
DracoPlato
ray will forgive
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray's ability to forgive is deeper than the abysm
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
forgiveness has power
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
So, building on the theory so far: Ray's father is a demon. Ray is half demon. Big sis was his mom or sister. She killed someone. Probably Ray's father. >:3 Ray is due for a heroic bsod and mara will halp
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Ray just forgive the girl
LOL
DracoPlato
i believe ray is a good boy deep down, he's just young
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
very deep down tho
RebelVampire
what interested me more in that panel
like
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
young and angsty
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
imagine the song kiss the girl but replace kiss with forgive
RebelVampire
is silver someone else
DracoPlato
oh yeah
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I totally think SIlver is someone VERY important
what if she's an archangel
DracoPlato
that foreshadowing there i didn't pick up until the re read
AngelicEmpyress
thats what i was thinking!
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
so she's allowed to do whatever she wants
RebelVampire
ah thatd be cool if silver didnt have to follow the rules but is so mature she does because she naturally sees their place and purpose
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
or maybe she's infamous for trolling a lot.
mathtans
Silver is the one who gave Big Sis the black wings, as an example to all the other angels. But now she feels bad.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
gdi
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
silver why
DracoPlato
silver thought the black wings would look nice with big sis' hair
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
S-Silver is not bad, uguuuu
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Silver dumped her ink on big sis on accident
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
LOL
AkaLevi
xD
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
that is a huge amount of ink
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
silver is a comic artist. Works with the best inks and paper. But still can't stop spillin' it
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
she ransacked an ink making company just to pull off the ink dump prank
accidentally stained her wings
"woops sorry"
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
that is something she might do
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
it's canon
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
it's probably good angels don;'t eat if their wings stain easily
imagine having to walk around with fried chicken and/or pizza stains on your wings
mathtans
I read that as "probably good angels don't eat their wings"...
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
the wings are actually chicken wings and can be fried
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
So this is all about Ray funding KFC
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Ray becomes the Colonel.
mathtans
K stands for Kara.
RebelVampire
i like the idea that silver gave the angel the black wings
and feels guilty now
mathtans
Sometimes I have zany theories that make sense!
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
XD
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Hrrrm.
DracoPlato
my thing is why didn't big sis become a demon
if she did something bad
how many chances are you given and is she getting sepcial treatment
and maybe she'd be happier as a demon
mathtans
She wouldn't become one, they only form from bad human emotions, right?
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
She was good before, and maybe her motives for the bad thing were ultimately good.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
That's kinda what I was saying, like, maybe big Sis is about to turn into a fallen one
we need another trigger
aka RAY
RebelVampire
i dont think shed be happier as a demon since the demons are supposed to guide ppl down the sinful path
DracoPlato
lucifer became a demon tho if it follows christianity and they were an angel
RebelVampire
i think shes a bad angel and a bad demon
would make good human
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
^
RebelVampire
QUESTION 4. In the story, Ray is revealed as special for his ability to be able to see the angels. When he asks the Angel about this and other rules they’re breaking, the Angel simply states she and Ray are exceptions. Why do you think Ray can see angels and what does it have to do with the larger story? Do he and the Angel have past history (and, if so, what)? Is his ability related to this theoretical back history, or is something bigger going on?
mathtans
Maybe Big Sis could only make it part of the way to being an angel. The black wings were a gift.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
YES
they have history. She's gotta be family
or have transgressed against him
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I think Ray and Big Sis are connected in some way, idk if family thing directly, but totally connected and because of that Ray can see them
DracoPlato
hmmm
mathtans
Ray can see angels because one of his parents was a demon. Angel killed the demon. ^.^
DracoPlato
oh i like that theory math
RebelVampire
tbh for me right now i think ray's abilities are independent of the angel. if only because i cant fathom what the angel wouldve done that wouldve gone "woooga wooga now you see da angels"
DracoPlato
i actually would prefer if they were separate
just because it's less predictable
mathtans
Maybe Ray just lives in a perpetual state of being half asleep.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
That sounds good too
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Maybe it's all a dream.
And Ray is in a coma.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
but Idk, if it wasmentioned before, don't mind me, but since when Ray can see angels?
mathtans
Since the start of the story? Hmmmm.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
in timeline
DracoPlato
maybe since he was a kid, it didn't seem like it was new
RebelVampire
thats a good point
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
since he was a little?
RebelVampire
i dont think it was stated
mathtans
Yeah, no, was trying to think about that.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
when puberty kicked in?
RebelVampire
but yeah i agree it didnt seem like it was new
so its at least been for a while
mathtans
Damn those puberty angels.
RebelVampire
i wonder how long he stalked the angel before talking to her
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Puberty really mess up yer body sometimes :y
now you see angels everywhere
I believe Big Sis was the one stalking to Ray, in a way
RebelVampire
maybe ray is dying soon and thats why he and the angel dont have to follow the rules when together. maybe the angel is the grim reaper now
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
oh no
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
DracoPlato
i did wonder why she was always around for him to see, since she can fly anywhere
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
people die if they're killed
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
that's why her wings are black.
mathtans
Ray DOES seem to be key though, I remember there was a scene where Big Sis was saying his actions would ripple out to everyone he knew.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
She's an angel of death.
DracoPlato
shinigami angel
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
becos Ray is playing Life is Strange
XD
RebelVampire
maybe the angel is going to angel die and ray has to take her place as grim reaper
mathtans
What? Where are the lesbians? ^.^
RebelVampire
ray doesnt have cool time reversing power tho O_O
DracoPlato
not yet anyway
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
not yet
in Zenchav universe, everything is possible
DracoPlato
this is true
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
wait, we have the yuri
Big Sis x Silver
DracoPlato
yus
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
this is totally life is strange
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
LOOOOOOL
mathtans
Oh, yay!
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
we're just missing the time travel powers
just one step my friendo
RebelVampire
but yeah i wondered why the angel was just always in his vicinity. like was just waiting. playing hard to get
being like "why hasnt he talked to me yet "(edited)
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
psh who needs that? I say play as it lies
XD
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Big Sis was always waiting to Ray maybe
not like she knew it was Ray
but to that someone who would save her
DracoPlato
big sis why you stalking young boys
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Big Sis and Silver is just a crack ship
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I got deep again
rip
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
becos I'm full of crack
XD
mathtans
She may not have known he could see. Myabe he was just sensitive, like Mara.
DracoPlato
i think she lived in the area
and wasn't stalking ray but her old life
RebelVampire
oh thats true
but idk
i mean she knows ray
DracoPlato
he said her face was familiar too
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
tehy were building in that place where Big Sis was stading
what if they demolished her old house
mathtans
She was haunting them.
RebelVampire
rip house
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
ray reincarnation?
mathtans
ray-incarnation?
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
LOOL
DracoPlato
loooooool
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
LOLOLOL
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
knows her in a previous life when she was alive
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Big Sis was actually big Sis of Ray in their past life
but Ray died
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
@mathtans oh god that was bad.
RebelVampire
hmm this makes me wonder, since the angel isnt guarding anyone because i assume its punishment, wtf is she supposed to be doing anyway. like...are they just saying "ok take a vacation and maybe youll learn your lesson about sinning. probably."
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Big Sis stayed alone
mathtans
@kabocha, baroness of sparkles Thank you. ^.^
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Admittedly, I wonder if Big Sis might have failed in guarding someone.
DracoPlato
your angel duty is to not cause trouble
i wondered that too though rebel XD
like wtf is your job then
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Maybe she's just with ray because lonely
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Maybe she was going to executed
and she cant come back to heaven
Silver is protecting her
it's their secret(edited)
mathtans
She was going to be executed because love with Silver was forbidden. Romance!
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
drama turned into romance
XD
RebelVampire
i doubt she was going to be executed just cause silver implied the angel could return if the angel got her act together and stopped fucking around
mathtans
I like romance. ^.^
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
maybe the people she was the guardian angel of freaked out cus wtf angel lady and went insane
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I didn't mention romance, but that's a good upgrade
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
So, dumbest question I think: ...Does Ray have sunglasses? If so, are they Ray-ban?
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Kabocha no
XD
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Ahahahaha
RebelVampire
this convo has devolved into bad puns
rip
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
save us rebel
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Quick, @RebelVampire save us~
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
rip
mathtans
If they were Ray-banned, he couldn't wear them.
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
save us from the pun demons
RebelVampire
uh O_O so lets talk about rapheal more and how pretty
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray is big Sis ray of light rip me I tried
AkaLevi
puns!!
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I like those thingies that looks like headphones on Raphael
mathtans
Oh! We haven't talked about Silver's kickass weapon yet. It's kickass.
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
ray is hikari
DracoPlato
that is a kick ass weapon
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
:3
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray of Light shipping
DracoPlato
silver is kick ass, shes' my fave
RebelVampire
i like how she summoned the weapon
DracoPlato
yeah me too
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
it is her weapon is super badass
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
The flowers were cool
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
i like her flowers
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Cali
RebelVampire
really i think silver is probably the best character
DracoPlato
she's definitely the least angsty at least XD
RebelVampire
is the only one who wont snap and become a serial killer
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
She's the only one who actually smiles
mathtans
I feel like Silver is tortured offscreen. She just puts up a front when around everyone.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
cool as a cucumber
DracoPlato
she smiles for now
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I wanna see Silver crying
DracoPlato
noooooo
RebelVampire
crack theory: ray is a serial killer and only the angel who is filled with sin is unpure enough to try and fix him. thus why ray's parents arent around. he killed them and their bodies are in the fridge.
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
it got dark for silver real quick
omg
mathtans
Rebel: O.o
DracoPlato
LOL
geezus
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
that is so dark
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
ray's parents did a bad so... he wouldn't forgive them
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
omg
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DracoPlato
i think ray would have killed the bullies by now then
RebelVampire
no no. hes waiting. hell be a suspect if he kills them
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
He could have killed Mara in School Day's style
RebelVampire
cause everyone knows of the abuse
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
They haven't gotten him to crack yet.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
KANASHIMI NO MUKOU HE TO
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
^OMFG YES
DracoPlato
maybe he gets high off the abuse
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
SOMEONE KNEW THE REFERENCE
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
i knew the reference
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
yisss
mathtans
School Days nuuuuuuuuuuu.
RebelVampire
lol thats a sad thought
ray is really just a masochist
mathtans
Dont' put the characters on a boat.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
so, who's the other person in the love triangle?
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
uhhh
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
uh
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Is Ray Sekai or Kotonoha
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
silver
/shot
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
the bullies
RebelVampire
the bullies
mathtans
The bullies should be their own love triangle! There's three of them, right?
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I still vote bullies will be Ray's friends at some point
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
ray as kotonoha would be frightening
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
They're the other classmates who...
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
the bakarda
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
you know, this is perhaps a little too adult.
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
the baraka
the..
the bully girls
mathtans
I ship the bullies.
RebelVampire
idk the bullies seem kind of one note. i wouldnt be very invested if they were ray's friends
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
bullies x fembullies
RebelVampire
albeit
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
best ship
RebelVampire
i guess ray so bitchy beggars cant be choosers
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
imagine that one boy bully calling ray master
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
"Aniki"
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
ray kills their leader and assimilates
"s-senpai notice me ;A;"
RebelVampire
no cali mharz is all about the yuri not the yaoi
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
so far Ray is a demon and serial killer
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
disappoint
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
rip
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
but how will zage get more yaois for his stash
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Cali we have our gay ships anyway
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
So, everyone in this story is a murderer of some sort except Silver.
mathtans
Nuuuu, Ray's nice. He's just stubborn.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
and Mara.
RebelVampire
there's ten mins left so are there any serious last thoughts anybody would like to share?
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Mara's the victim.
Silver is the big hero who tries to save her.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I think this story is pretty good so far
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
:' D
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Yeah, crack theories aside, I do enjoy TAWBW a fair bit
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
yus
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I think it advances at its own peace
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I binged it one weekend
glad it moved off tap tho, the scrolling kills my wrist so much
mathtans
Kudos on some of those asides. Like, some are coloured and everything. I was impressed.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
so calling it slow or not, is not my thing
I liked it from chapter 1
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
shucks you are all so nice
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
even though i wanna slap ray around
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
:' D
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray is bad sometimes
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
but i can see from both their PoVs
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Ray is such a teenager.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
but other times he can be good, at least with big Sis
RebelVampire
i like the flow of the story and the art. i do kind of wish the characters developed more quickly. like i really wanna like ray but his chara evolution is going so slow. can only take so much whining :"D
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I'm sure Ray is gonna develop and be nice with someone else than Angels
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
LOL webcomic pacing
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
ray should get a pet
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Ray needs a cat.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
And hedgehog cause spikes
OMG
mathtans
Ray started from a good place though. Like, you feel for his place at the start before you start to wonder why he seems to have issues.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I do wish I can upload more but I don't wanna blow off my buffer
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
NUUUU don't kill your buffer
mathtans
You have a buffer?? Kudos.
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
your year long buffer?
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
I won't
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
lmao
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
it's slowly diminishing
XD
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Overall, I find these characters pretty good too
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
11 months and 3 weeks
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Idk about other like Raphae cause he hasnt appeared much
RebelVampire
i was sympathetic for ray at first but theres a point where im just like "ok ray now youre just perpetuating your misery."
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
can0t say anything about husbando ; ;
DracoPlato
yeah i agree with rebel
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
husbando will appear again someday
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray needs some slaps
maybe metaphorical slaps
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Silver should slap him
mathtans
Yeah, Ray seems real stubborn.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
troll slap
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Maybe ray will get a love interest.
mathtans
Ray's love interest... the creator?
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
but he's too angsty to notiiiiice
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I don't think there might be much romance in this comic tbh XD
RebelVampire
haha debatably isnt the angel his love interest tho? like, im skeptical he thinks of her as a sister XD
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
i'd say beat the lame outta ray, but thats one thing that makes him so angsty
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Cause its not the focus
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
the world may never knkow
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
at least that's what Mharz made us see
I-I could be wrong and tomorrow we'll see Ray with a girlfriend
rip
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
Volume 3 will be fun.... probably...
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
married and with kids
mathtans
His girlfriend is that nice old lady in the cafe, Brave?
RebelVampire
and then his girlfriend disappears mysteriously as the angel hides the bloody scissors
DracoPlato
teen dad ray
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
OMFG
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
rip
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
draco no
XD
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
the angel is secretly yandere
shes the kotonoha
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I wanna know who's that old lady from lastest update
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
oh man
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
what's she up to and why talk randomly (maybe it's not random) to Ray
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I felt so bad for Kotonoha, so now I feel bad for Big Sis.
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I think this comic will get very serious with tons of shit happening very soon
like bye bye slice of life
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
@Queen Brave Hikari of Memes -- agreeeeed
RebelVampire
some ppl in life do just randomly speak to others
mathtans
It's already pretty serious, with demons.
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I feel like somethin's about to really go down
more demons, more danger
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
it's always serious
:V
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Still suspicious hurrr
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
more ray doing something stupid
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
I feel like ray's about to get upset at big sis in a bad way
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Drink game: take a shot whenever Ray does something stupid
ded
RebelVampire
idk tho. i mean ray forgived her really fast for abandoning him
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
ray is always doing stupid
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
my liver can't handle that
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
"omg theres danger at the mall? LETS CHECK IT OUT "
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
that would be like every page
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
omg
Maybe Ray is being kind of hypocrite?
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
count how much Ray fucks up in the story
RebelVampire
for your health and safety, as serverlord i ban this drinking game
mathtans
I like the subtle nice things in there too though, like when he's giving coins to those homeless people.
RebelVampire
no dying
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
meep
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
ray becomes the next angel with black wings due to how much fuck ups he do
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Thank you Rebel.
Livers are expensive.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
should have a fuck up counter
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
you may ban it here but people can still play at home
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
LOLOLOL
RebelVampire
yeah i appreciated that subtle ray giving money to someone
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
That's what bothers me
DracoPlato
oh yeah i liked that
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
Ray can be super nice smetimes
and in others
RebelVampire
no my powers extend everywhere delta
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
he just "RAY STOP, AHHHHH"
DracoPlato
i think ray is accurate to someone his age tho
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I lose my shit
SirDelta God King of Mecha, Time
lies
RebelVampire
yeah ray does reek teen
so appropriate
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
Ray needs a therapist.
Queen Mharz of Buffers and Wings
very teen
kabocha, baroness of sparkles
But yes, he is very much a 15-year-old boy.
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
so teen he manisfests teen
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
teen act like that in a way i think
mathtans
Next arc, Big Sis gets her psychologist degree...
Queen Brave Hikari of Memes
I think I used to be like Ray in some sort
Maybe that's why I can't hate him
OH NO, I RELATE TO RAY
Deity Cali of Speed and Dis Pear
crack theory: ray and big sis are the same soul and big sis was his past life
RebelVampire
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I think I got too much sun today. I mean, it’s spring here finally. (Altough on Saturday it was still snowing, welcome to Finland..........) There’s sunny days. I was out the whole day (at the harness racing... well, races as I’m studying horse training n stuff) and it was very sunny day and even tho too much sun causes me to have a headache, apparently it and the whole experience made me also feel very energetic. I’m really tired tho but I’m listening to music and feeling this... feel that I usually love to call “happiness”, music has always had this effect on me. Especially around spring. Around that time I really love life and living.
ALSO I start feeling like I need company. Right now, for some reason, I’m again starting to mentally hype Gotham in my head even tho I still haven’t been able to watch the 3rd Season and when was it when I finished with 2nd season? Few months ago when it was added to Netflix...
SOOOO I don’t even know what I’m trying to achieve with this or if I’m trying to achieve anything at all, I just feel like talking and idk. I think this is going to be about mental stuff once again as I am pretty much obsessed with mental health stuff and I myself am a one big (except I’m short wait what) walking mental health issue. Anyway, I’ve been a huge Batman fan since I was 8 years old and back then I couldn’t really explain it but later I realized I’m still a fan because of how psychological everything is in that world. Also majority of them are not what they are just by accident but because of how everything affects everything. I love the Arkham video game series for this too, you can see this psychological aspect in there so well.
It seems I look up to characters that are more or less mentally ill (this is not from DC but Marvel Universe, but Deadpool is my ultimate favorite but still kinda sharing the first place with Batman, and Joker too) because I’ve admitted to myself and some of my things are just not curable but that’s just plain okay. If I can learn to live with them, then they should not be a problem to anyone else either. I just hope I could say aloud that I have anxiety attacks, panic attacks, obsessive-compulsive thoughts, derealizaton, depersonalization, body-image problems (basially I don’t feel the way I look and it’s causing me to love escapism), constant worry of certain things and overthinking and what else and no one would not judge me for it. Atm it feels like it’d be the worst ever if everyone knew because all I can imagine in my head is this huge scenario where people turn against me because they wouldn’t know how to deal with me anymore as if the disorder appeared out of nowhere, even tho it has always been there but they just did not know about it. (Basically I think this could be compared to those who are “in the closet” for their sexuality/anything; even tho I’m not. I’m ace+aro and proud but I just don’t say it aloud ever, people will figure it out if they need to know.)
Being mentally ill is just a huge taboo and seen as a bad thing in this world. Like, don’t get me wrong, there’s some illnessess that I wouldn’t wish to anyone, but it’s not for others to decide whether it’s a problem or not. Mental “illness” can also be what makes you, you. Part of our personalities.
So this is why I love characters that are weird or could be mentally ill. This is why I’m very much obsessed with Deadpool. I just can relate to them way too much. And I constantly need to read or hear about toher people’s symptoms and feelings because, idk, it makes me feel better. I’m not alone with myself. I don’t care if it’s a fictional character or a real person, I just need to relate to something. It’s actually one of my ways to “compulse” my anxiety - I go and read about things. If I’m having a weird anxiety attack out of blue, I go and read about generalized anxiety disorder. It’s like I try to explain every feeling of mine by psychiatry. I don’t think it’s even that healthy lol, but that’s what I seem to do every time... I costantly self-diagnoze myself, I want to know more and more and more, I want to hear what doctors would say about me. I just want to _KNOW and nothing is enough, I don’t think I’ll ever stop doing this. Even if I was diagnozed one day, I guess I’d still come up with new diagnoses.
I think this^ is because I was bullied at school and I also always had this desire to be different. Actually not even desire but obsession. People say that we shouldn’t be proud about our anxiety or something but to be honest, I actually am proud. Like here in the internet, I’m really excited to talk about this and to describe myself. I feel like it’s the only thing I’ve succeeded at even tho some would see it as a failure. Okay I sometimes feel like that too, there has been times when I’ve been feeling so down and I’ve just tried to imagine how life would be if I was not mentally ill. Sometimes I’ve actually imagined it and let’s just say life would not be worth living, everything would be so empty and dull, like living without brains. Yes, there’s days when I don’t want my anxiety, but the days between the anxiety are great. Maybe I need that anxiety so I remember to enjoy those days when I don’t have anxiety. I need anxiety to stay healthy, I probably wouldn’t sleep nor eat like ever if I didn’t have my anxiety. I get anxiety about food if I haven’t eaten well enough, there was a time when I ate very very poorly and never again, it was horrible. I would probably be dehydrated if I didn’t have my anxiety. I just can’t imagine living in this world without my anxiety and hundreds of other quirks because then I’d turn into this zombie who I see way too often in life. I can’t imagine how some people are just happy with all this life cycle of going to school and studying and getting a job and having a job until they retire and are already too old to phsyically to anything at all. I want to live while I still can. Yet I feel like I’m trapped because of how the society nowadays is how it is, money is everything and you get no money without a job but when you are not really able to work like that, only way to get money is to get lucky and win a jackpot. Which is not gonna happen as I don’t do lottery...
I think I lost the point a while ago. I felt like talking to someone but not anyone special. Probably feeling like talking to my best friend who doesn’t even exist. Last time I had a best friend was when I was 13, then I always had my cousin but it feel weird that she now has a kid, it felt like she was not my _best friend ever since she started dating boys and later found her partner who she has the kid with too. I think ever since I’ve been in search for that best friend but it’s most likely never gonna happen because I strongly believe that this person does not exist at all. Like you just can’t find a person with all these features. Just like my body image is something that does not exist (I would like to be able to change my looks at will...), also my ideal-best-friend is not something that can be found in this reality. Which is bit sad but that’s why I live for escapism. And when I get really obsessed with something fictional (oh how I wish it was not fictonal... I don’t like this reality...) that’s when it gets “mixed up” with this reality and all I want to do is just talk about it and do stuff that has something to do with this thing. Otherwise I just... “go with the flow”, try to live this life but I still spend more time in fictional worlds (movies, tv shows, games, books) than in this reality.
Usually when I feel like hyping and talking, it’s just enough that I write somewhere, like Tumblr, and pretend like someone was reading these and it’s like I talked with someone. Because really I don’t even need the answers, I just need to be heard. Fortunately I have therapy on Wednesday, it’s been probably a month since the last time. Actually almost exactly a month. It’s just... these thoughts never end by thinking or talking. More is just one the way 24/7. I get myself confused when I talk and think but it’s okay when I don’t think about them. Existential crisis.
Oh gosh how tired I am, I need to go to sleep soon. This day was very exhausting yet I don’t feel tired tired. Just my body is tired.
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