#sg1: emancipation

[ekaterin1701]

Another free evening tonight, so I was able to watch the next episode in my Stargate re-watch - S1 episode 4 Emancipation.

It wasn’t as terrible as I’d expected! I’d forgotten a lot of the plot, including that the leader of the first tribe they encounter, Moughal, is fairly open-minded (though Carter still has to wear traditional dress), but his son Abu abducts Carter to trade her for Turghan’s daughter Nya. The rest of SG1 rescue Carter (by trading Jack’s gun for her), but they then go back to rescue Nya from being stoned to death, and Carter fights and beats Turghan to win Nya’s freedom and her own freedom.

There’s a couple of interesting points about the society - Moughal says that the rules were to keep women safe from the ‘demons’ that brought them there (presumably the Goa’uld), and points out that Turghan has to punish his daughter to show that he upholds the law, especially for his own family.

Daniel is still calling Sam ‘Doctor Carter’ in this episode, showing that they’re not really friends yet, and he’s the one who insists she wear the dress and talks about how SG1 can’t interfere with their customs. Fairly sure they don’t keep to that later in the series!

The scene with Sam in the blue dress is played for laughs, and we also get the reference to whatever Sam did on P3X-595.

Jack questions Sam’s hand to hand fighting skills (still seeing her mainly as a scientist?) and he has his hand on his gun during the fight, but after she’s won the fight, you see him looking at her as if he’s reassessing his opinion of her.

One thing that stood out is that we don’t see much of Sam’s interactions with the women of the tribes, beyond her conversations with Nya. I think (hope?) this would be different if the show was made today.

I have found a couple of stories linked to the episode that I enjoyed. This is a short and thoughtful story about Sam getting the blue dress, and the value of traditional women’s work:

This is a story about SG1 dealing with a similar culture, set in season 6, which is moving and troubling at the same time. There’s a line in there that really got to me.

Next episode: The Broca Divide.

[scifidancer]

STARGATE SG-1 / "Emancipation"

[sweet-little-tank-top-number]

I would love to see Sacrifice Moon adapted into an animated SG-1 movie with the original cast coming back to voice their characters.

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Stargate SG-1 "Emancipation"

[justplainmels]

1.03 | Emancipation

“Remember that time on P3X-595? You drank that stuff that made you take off…”

[jadelotusflower]

Stargate rewatch: 1x03 Emancipation

aka the episode everyone wants to pretend never happened.

Written by Katharyn Powers, who was also an executive story consultant for this season and will write some good episodes for the show, but this is not one of them.

Everyone in a helmet except Jack again.

These early shows are a bit rocky in finding the feet with the characters, thankfully they move away from trying to deal with Sam as just The Girl or putting her in Outfits.

The rationale for staying is the possibility of a wonder healing drug that will never be mentioned again, not even when they’re trying to come up with the advantages of the Stargate program at the end of the season.

Daniel with a notebook and pen, ready to take notes. It also looks like they've now given him a gun.

It’s a shame this is the first Sam-centric episode, because it’s just no fun to talk about.

Amanda Tapping does commit however, she’s so much better than the material.

This episode does have female characters with names and who speak, even to each other - unfortunately the conversation is still mostly male-centric.

“Remember that time on P3X-595, you drank that stuff that made you take off-” Ugh. But this means they've been at this a while - I kind of wish we'd seen their first mission as a team.

Jack and Daniel not wanting to interfere in the local culture is an early episode quirk - soon their whole thing will become being all up in everyone else’s business at all times.

Sam gets a shoulder pat from Jack this time!

“Okay everyone, let’s never speak of this again.”

[dailystargatebooty]

[offense-is-the-best-defence]

Stargate SG1 1x04 Emancipation

Me: the one with Shang Tsung

[stargatesg-1obsessed]

Jack, Daniel, and Teal'c's reaction to Sam dressed up is my favourite part.

SG1 rewatch      s01e04 - Emancipation

[rahleeyah]

Dude, what was you bsg bar fight about?

Someone looked me dead in the face and told me sg1 was an objectively better show

And I'm like. Are you. Are you joking?

I tried to be like yeah you know people like different things it's cool that you prefer sg1 and they were like "no it's literally better"

And I was flabbergasted

Listen I love sg1. But it is a fun, campy show that doesn't do a great job tackling ethical issues on the occasions that it decides to (looking at you, emancipation), its pilot episode is one of the worst things I've ever seen in my entire life, the ori are just goa'uld in different costumes like it literally repeats itself. It is deeply entertaining and endearing but to say it's a better made show is an insane take.

So I started to push back and this person rolled their eyes at the idea that having a cohesive plot line made a show better (I think they said something along the lines of who cares; I was begining to see red at that point). My bestie and I were tearing them up, getting more and more heated. This person tried to walk it back, slightly, by saying bsg did have better space battles, which I'm like ok if space battles are the measure you're using to determine what's good you are not grown enough for this conversation.

They tried to end the conversation by saying well there's no accounting for taste, to which I replied no there really isn't with heavy emphasis, and the whole table got real quiet and I had to crack a joke to lighten the mood and did not speak to this person for the rest of the evening.

Please note this was in the summer, and after having spent several hours walking around in the heat looking at tigers we'd gone to the bar for drinks and dinner and this person was. Drinking a glass of milk.

[ekaterin1701]

Continued my Stargate rewatch tonight with ‘The Enemy Within’, which is the first normal-length episode and is set entirely on the base as they discover that Kowalsky has been infected with a Goa’uld and try to save him, and Teal’c is questioned by Col. Kennedy from the Pentagon.

I’d forgotten that Kowalsky is only partially controlled by the Goa’uld at first, so he has no idea what he’s doing during his blackouts. The scenes between him and Jack in the infirmary showed how close they were, making the ending all the worse.

The interview with Teal’c provides a lot of the background information about the Goa’uld and the wider galaxy, setting up the premise of the show, and the realisation that earth is the home of the Tau’ri. Plus there is Jack with his ‘Permission to barge in, sir?’ - you can see Hammond is getting used to/ resigned to his ways 😀

I like the way that Hammond is so protective of Teal’c throughout the episode, and the way he calls him calls him ‘son’ as he does to a few others (though Teal’c is actually older than Hammond - according to Wikipedia, he’s around 100 at the start of the show).

And the episode ends with SG1 stepping through the Stargate for the first time, on their way to P3-575.

Next episode is Emancipation, which I remember as being quite cringey 😬

[8one6]

Stargate SG1 S1E14: Hathor

Fucking Hathor!

Look, Suanne Braun is super pretty (like god damn!) , so I'll never be able to completely hate this episode, but it's a bad episode. Easily the second worst after Emancipation. Maybe the idea of a goa'uld abandoned on earth during the rebellion could be recycled into a better episode or as part of a season arc, but no sex pheromones, no trying to create new jaffa, none of that stupid shit. You can keep the extremely pretty redhead though.

Maybe set up an Earth based enemy faction of goa'uld. Maybe setup Hathor (or Ba'al, or Osiris, or all of them in a legion of doom) as a magnificent bastard who you can't trust but still have to work with when the first alien ships show up in orbit.

[writingherhope]

Are there any fics about P3X-595 about Carter drinking "that stuff that made ya take off [her]..." That Jack mentions in "Emancipation"?

Any ratings are fine. I'm not all about the smut, just good untapped material.

[stargate365]

[SG-1] 1.04: Emancipation

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“What a mess” #sendhelp

Will SG1 regret this though? Probably. It’s season 1 after all...

“We are travellers from very far away.”

“This is a woman” <— yes genius, she is.

And now he’s being rude

??

!!??!!

Sam looks ready to shoot them.

“She speaks, she dies”

Wtf! ??!!??

Daniel... no. You’re going to get Sam kidnapped or sold or something..

Llama!!! I see a llama! <3 <3

Aaaa. Okay. No face showing then...

Lol. Just get dressed Sam. But keep your fun. And maybe a knife.

I bet it’s a ridiculous dress though.

Yes. It is. omg

“Find me an anthropologist who dresses like this and I will eat this headdress”

Well... Jack seems to like it...

Daniel! Stop lying. She hates it. It’s godawful for a warrior.

Pretty, but useless. And practically begging for a kidnapping

How could such a nice man breed such a shit son?

“The hell with culture”

“How is it you always come up with the worst case scenario” “I practise”

Sam is probably going to shank the first man she can on principle.

This guy looks like he also wishes to shank a boy.

Oh dear. Sam, please shush. This chap needs to be dealt with by being knifed in the dead of night.

Hey! Her face is above the knife you jackass!

How did the two even meet if she’s so well guarded?? It’s a massive plot hole.

Stupid boy. You made it a bit too clear about your weakness.

Pfft. Sam cooking. That’s hilarious.

Go Sam Go! You’re gpnna get caught, but still.

Ugh. He’s clearly a shitty kisser.

“there’s no excuse to beat a woman, ever” #WORDS

“Oh, theres not a chance in hell.” ß|<-- Jack is right.

Lol. Daniel is bullshitting his way through this.

Jack, I thought we learnt our lesson about giving people guns?

Yas! Daniel! Use your genius brain!

“I challenge it!”

YAS QUEEN!

 SAM HAS A KNIFE! I LOVE THIS!

SAM WINS! FREEEEDOM!

“Guess Im going to have to cancel that Oprah Interview.” “What is an Oprah?”

[conicalsurprise]

Tbh I think that person in the replies is just cherry picking. I at no point in my watching of SG1 or any other Stargate media have woobified Daniel. He's a dude who does shit bad sometimes, (Absolute Power, S4, EP17 comes to mind as an example) that's what makes him interesting. Humans are fallible and he's no exception. S1 of SG1 is so flawed for so many reasons and Emancipation is the worst rated episode for many of those reasons.

I also think a lot of people try to equate 90's and 00's culture with ours now. Yeah, it wasn't too long ago, (I say as we're close to the 30th anniversary of SG1) but things (media, television, movies, culture) were different. The fact that Sam is treated as a PERSON and not just #woman is so refreshing to me.

No, I don't condone Daniel taking Sha're as a gift but they very obviously had a connection in the movie. Past that, I really don't see what he's done to make it seem like he thinks women are below him or that they don't deserve respect.

Finishing off that insane and rambly rant, all in all, Daniel is the most popular character in SG1. Be it hated or loved, he is at the forefront. A lot of men hate other men, be it fictional or otherwise, for the very specific reason of "women really like that dude." That's usually what I see it as, but I guess some people *ahem* have their reasons.

so apparently there are people who hate daniel? not a bunch because i’ve only seen two old posts about it and maybe i don’t get it since i’m not even halfway through the show but what did he even do

[samantha-carter-is-my-muse]

The many faces of Tapping, part six: Sam in Emancipation.

New tutorial, not much of it left, but I'm beginning to understand the tools used in it better. This ended up being orange, don't recall when in the process it happened, but I decided to keep it because it's different from what I normally do.

(Have I mentioned how much I enjoy making this series? Trying out new tutorials means learning new skills in Photoshop. And I'm making AT art. What a nice combo.)