#seperis

[bobwess]

I gotchu

@chuckwontheory @bloodydeanwinchester

[strawlessandbraless]

Just went through and reblogged everything in my endverse tag. Serious question. Will reading the Down to Agincourt series by seperis make me better or worse?

[princessmadelines]

IN NOMINE DEAN ;

“Stand up, Dean Winchester. You kneel to no one and nothing. That was your right from the moment of your birth, and you took it back. All of it.”

— Map Of The World, Seperis

dean’s version of this. i’ll post them side by side soon!

[nym-wibbly]

Down to Agincourt - here we go

So, after several nudges (and someone finally sending me the author and link as well as the title!), I started reading/listening to my text-to-voice software [badly] reading @seperis ' epic Down to Agincourt series.

"You don't have to work this hard," Dean assures him uneasily; every instinct is telling him there is something profoundly wrong here. "I really don't like you already." "And my work here is done." Castiel lifts one shoulder in the impression of a shrug, like he can't bother himself to even make the effort to do it right. Dean didn't realize he started toward him until he's close enough to see Castiel's face, a blur-edged oval with skin bleached of all color in brutal contrast to smudges like bruises beneath shadowed eyes.

It's gonna be one of those semi-lethal brainworms that wiggles in and never leaves again, so I'm still getting flashbacks and random belated insights about it in 30 years time, isn't it?

[s13e05]

my interests include cross stitching and down to agincourt

[four-of-cups]

I started reading Down to Agincourt cause of your post recommending it. I'm around half way through Map of the World and I'm certifiable hooked! So yeah, all I'm trying to say is that if I were a member of your book club I would be voting for us to read and discuss this one :)

Oh gosh I cannot tell you how happy this makes me. If you ever want to discuss anything I am right here with my glass of wine and hard copy print out.

I am so excited for your DTA journey <3

[kissmycas2017]

Normal people's Passwords: Children's names, birthdates, pets

DtA Fans' Passwords: CastielGabrielSinger842014

Will I ever get over this story? The hangover is just as long as the Supernatural one.

[castielchitaqua]

seperis!!!! seperis!!! finish the book!!! set me free

[a-place-to-take-you]

I read Down to Agincourt last year for the first time, and did not expect to be emotionally devastated by **another** post-apocalyptic queer love story where we see love blossom in some of the most dire circumstances–with subplots about gardening and sieges and caring for your sick partner–just a few months later

[bobwess]

Sometimes I'll see a post about Down to Agincourt, and I'll just follow everyone who commented on, shared, or liked the post, in the hopes it'll lead to more posts about Down to Agincourt.

[teresaofichabod]

Snippet of the Rome things!

Chapter 5 The Game of God- Seperis: 

We meet Fulvia (Dean’s companion) when Cas is attacked in the mess in Ichabod.

She introduces herself as Charon’s heir & knows who Castiel is. Castiel mentions that “Charon would better guard her barge from Elysium’s residents”. This means: 

So in Greek mythology, Charon is the ferryman of the underworld. He carries the souls across the rivers Acheron and Styx. (wiki charon)

As payment for this, Charon receives a coin that was placed in the mouth of the corpse. (britanica) 

In Greek and Roman mythology, Elysium was the place of rest for the dead. It is also known as the Elysian Fields or the Elysian Plain. (encyclopedia)

Fulvia answers that “before Charon crossed the Rivers Styx and Acheron for the last time, they passed to Elysium their claim to all that was within their domain” making her an heir. 

This is a reference to Lucifer killing all the Gods. So before Charon was killed, they made Elysium their heir.

She goes on to tell about ‘the Barge of the Dead alight on the shores of the world before Lucifer’s eyes and laughed when the Rivers refused to allow him passage by our order, our claim upheld. They laughed even as the Misborn offspring of Cynothoglys he released upon her fed until nothing remained.’

Here we can see references to: 

That Lucifer got Cynothoglys raped and that the Misborn that formed from it. We also see part of this scene later in the book.

Later we can see Fulvia & Castiel talk about Castiel’s brothers and that Fulvia was now here to give him company and comfort like Castiel did for her grandfather (Gaius), his mother (Cornelia) & her (Fulvia). Castiel seemed shocked that she knew this she smiles and says: ‘Did you think I would not know a Messenger when one stooped to manifest before me? My mother (Sempronia Minor) was not so lax in my education.’ 

This references all the names that Castiel is known for. Such as Messenger. We see later in The Game of God that Cornelia summoned Castiel.

Castiel thinks about how she “walked the Forum Romanum where women were never before welcome like her grandfather before her, …, stood before the rostra itself with the masses to scream her support, raised an army under her own name to march to Rome and went to war against the living, breathing penalty of the gods… and was betrayed by a man (Marcus Antonius) not fit to so much as speak her name”.

This is a reference to Fulvia’s life. She was one of the most influential women in Roman history. She was the first woman to ever appear on a Roman coin. 

In 42 BC Fulvia was the most powerful woman in Rome. According to Cassius Dio, Fulvia controlled the politics of Rome.

In 41 BC the tensions between Fulvia and Octavius led to a war. Together with Lucius Antonius, Fulvia led 8 legions to fight in the Perusine War. Her army occupied Rome, even though it was short. Lucius surrendered and Fulvia fled to Greece with her children. Marcus Antonius put Fulvia to blame for whatever happened and than married Octavian’s sister. Most of Fulvia’s children were executed or taken away from her (wiki fulvia).

Like Sarah writes in History today (...) Fulvia was a courageous woman, who was more at home in a military camp than behind a spinning wheel. She was more than someone’s wife. She was the unofficial fourth member of the Triumvirate. 

Later Fulvia says, “how does avia? I would know her as you do. Is she well? Castiel answer with ‘yes. yes, i’d say so.’ Fulvia says ‘I look forward to meeting her’”.

I don’t know what this means. Avia is Latin for Grandmother. Fulvia’s grandmother is Cornelia. We don’t really know what’s going on with Cornelia so I’m not going to go on about this.

Then Castiel asks why Fulvia is here on earth now. Fulvia answers: “the murder of Charon must be avenged, and I earned first right to their blood. While the Misborn live, for one sevenday per year i may hunt them on earth.” 

This shows why Fulvia is there right now. She’s trying to murder the Misborn and like we know The Misborn are waiting for the barrier to go down to get to Nate, Allison & Jaya. 

She then says: “we hold the five rivers, but he still claims the shores and the Door; his creatures patrol the shores in his name, and we will not have it.”

This references: 

The five rivers—Acheron, Styx, Phlegethon, Cocytus, and Lethe—each had their own distinct function in the religion and mythology of the Greek underworld along with a unique character to symbolize the respective emotion or god associated with death. (greek reporter).

Cerberus guards the gate that serves as the entrance to the underworld also known as the Door (greek underworld).

Lucifer claims the shores and the Door, but the heirs of Charon control the rivers. This means that the Misborn can’t get to the Door and that Lucifer doesn’t have control over everything.

[bobwess]

This one is tough. Last book I read: Down to Agincourt (I have it printed, it counts) Last movie I watched: Phantom of the Paradise On the one hand, maybe I could help out but also maybe I could suffer in an understocked camp or town enduring an apocalypse. Or perhaps do a lot of drugs. On the other hand I could watch Beef perform at the Paradise and DEFINITELY do a lot of drugs.

Would you rather...

[princessmadelines]

BE NOT AFRAID ;

“Qafsiel, Kaziel, Cassiel, Castiel, Messenger. Son of God, angel of the Lord, Castiel of the Host, courier of the Pantheons, victor of the Siege of Hell- Castiel Gabriel Singer, Castiel of Chitaqua, and owner of 'thing Dean will cover with salt and set on fire in the front yard', by whatever name, with whatever rite, in whatever appearance it is right to invoke thee, I entreat you to grant me a single request.”

— The Game Of God, Seperis

a dta cas collage. i haven’t made a edit in literal ages, but this lovely one by @deanhisnippleisout inspired me xx also, go read dta. it is worth the hype.

[four-of-cups]

anyone else idly think about how many Down to Agincourt deleted scenes there must be and which limbs you’d gnaw off to read them

[bobwess]

AMA (Down to Agincourt addition) I am once again bored, so here are some more (aka many) questions. As that anon from last year who asked for the elevator pitch, I am so glad I did and gave DtA another shot!!! When did you first start reading it?

When did you first realize how hooked you where with DtA? Was it from moment one? Was there a spesific scene?

Fav of the original side characters?

Fav the original main characters?

Coolest concept that DtA introduced into the SPN world?

If there could be a in-depth prequel written for any of the characters, who's past would you be the most interested in exploring?

If you had to, what would you ranking be of the books?

How many times have you read it all the way through?

What bit of foreshadowing (if any) did you miss the first time around that really jumped out at you on a reread?

Did reading DtA help inspire your own The End fic?

What of the many burning questions currently unanswered do you want answered first?

What's the most interesting non-SPN related fact that DtA taught you?

If normal SPN team free will read/watch/found out about the DtA what do you think their reactions would be?

What's a scene/interaction that still scratches the brain itch?

Have you read The Forever King spin-off series? If so, what are your thoughts?

Yes!! Muahahahaha. Changing the order a bit.

Coolest concept that DtA introduced into the SPN world?

The Winchester House, everything about it, and its entire relationship to Nate. 

The complex rules and magical constraints/potential of metaphysical contamination.

Honorable mention: Lucifer’s plans with the Gods.

But also actually: The Winchester House.

What bit of foreshadowing (if any) did you miss the first time around that really jumped out at you on a reread?

(spoilers) 

The set up for the church paradox. 

Cas, post fall, fever dream, almost dying locked in that cabin bedroom, the unnamed goddess calling him in spirit yet somehow physically into that Church.

Dean, post infection, fever dream, almost dying locked in that cabin bedroom, Cas accidentally calling him in spirit yet somehow physically into that Church. 

All of time and space converging. Dean is the impossible, he was never supposed to be in this universe, Cas accidentally binding them together with those sigils, allowing Cas to connect with Dean in the first place, and also making Dean invisible to Lucifer while he’s physically in that cabin, which he technically is, thus allowing him to shield Lia and thus her able to get him into that church where he and Cas manage to do something and erase the kids' (and both of their) minds. 

There is so much meat there, and every time you re-read there is more. There is so much cool foreshadowing with ALL the players involved, and I literally put together another thread in that during EVERY read-through. 

Someone once asked me my thoughts on what we know happened in the church and it got to 19 pages in google before I had to cut it off pending another re-read of book 4. 

Fav of the original side characters?

I can not separate Nate and the Winchester House, so--

Fav the original main characters?

Vera by a slim margin over Joe.

When did you first start reading it?

It’s hard to remember just because the last three years are a fuzzy mess, but I’m pretty sure I started reading it late 2021/early 2022. I am a fast reader so I demolished it VERY fast. 

When did you first realize how hooked you where with DtA? Was it from moment one? Was there a specific scene? 

After Cas and Dean started properly working together in book 1 I was pretty on board, but once they told Chuck and started their trips into Kansas City, that was when it really settled in and I knew I was about to read the entire thing.

If there could be a in-depth prequel written for any of the characters, who's past would you be the most interested in exploring?

Joe or Teresa. Honestly though I’d really like to see the case Dean worked down by the border. 

If you had to, what would you ranking be of the books?

This is a slim AF margin too, because they’re all so good. But I think it’d be 3,1,4,2 So “A Thousand Lights in Space” “Map of the World” “Game of God” “It’s the Stars That Lie” But it's real neck and neck for the last three.

How many times have you read it all the way through?

Books one and two I have read cover to cover 6 or 7 times, three I probably read a couple more. Book four I’ve actually only read completely cover to cover once, but I have read a lot of it out of order a couple more times. I’m trying to get my fics to a bit more of a stable point so I can re-read it again in case I go off the rails hyper-fixation on it again. I’ll probably read it twice in a row when I read it this next time.

Did reading DtA help inspire your own The End fic?

No, it hindered it greatly. The world building in DtA is very contrary to the plot I have for my endverse fic, and it took a while for my brain to reset and be like “Nope, this is what I’m doing, put that out of your mind.” If I hadn’t read DtA, you’d already have my Endverse fic, because I started writing it before reading that, and had to stop work for straight up like a year. 

What of the many burning questions currently unanswered do you want answered first?

WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED INSIDE THE DAMN CHURCH!?!?!?

What's the most interesting non-SPN related fact that DtA taught you?

Graphene and everything about it.

If normal SPN team free will read/watch/found out about the DtA what do you think their reactions would be?

I think none of them would have any idea what to do with it. Cas would therefore not have much outward expression, Sam would be incredibly awkward and only a little insulted he isn’t in it, and Dean would be 10/10 defensive AF. 

What's a scene/interaction that still scratches the brain itch?

The Winchester Hou- Cas accidentally calling Dean when he’s using Allison as a conduit for the kids in Ichabod, and subsequently their interactions after Cas figures out what happened. 

Close seconds are Cas and Dean’s interaction after Dean gets bit in the courtyard, Cas searching Kansas City with his mind after Dean touched The Ick™. 

And yes actually the retelling of Nate’s interactions with The Winchester House.

Have you read The Forever King spin-off series? If so, what are your thoughts?

I have not read it yet, I must at some point. I know I’ll like it.

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Also I'm glad my pitch worked and you ended up giving it another go!!