#self ship with them. bc they were minors. and even when i pointed out i was THEIR AGE he still doubled down that i shouldn't do it
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davifoxi · 1 year ago
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most of the time when an adult self ships with a minor character, they were minors when they joined the fandom, and it's shitty to expect people to stop having a crush on their fictional crush just because THEY grew up but the character didn't
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ancanosaur · 7 months ago
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Does anyone else remember how weirdly toxic the MK Fandom was around MKx era? Becuase I do.
Those like handful of blogs that were just getting into beef with random Kano fans and their whole thing was "Kanno is a peice of shit! And so are you for liking this fictional antagonist!!!" I remember a few who put anti-Kano in thier description of their blog and it was just a hobby to shame people for drawing Kano fanart or liking the character in any way. (And a small revival with mk11 since they made him fuzzy for that game lmao)
Weird uncomfortable age gap shipping... That whole thing about that one artist that drew Cassie cage/subzero stuff and a shit ton of people were like "uh, he's friends with her dad and is like 52. So that's kinda weird." But then it also turned into a headcanon argument bc people were like "yeah subzero definitely watched Cassie cage grow up and he was a part of her childhood." Wich is so funny looking back at it bc there was no need for people to theorise anything about the characters relationship any further than what is Canon for it to be weird.
That fucking Sektor fan who just casually wrote headcanons about Sektor being a huge fucking racist for no goddamn reason?????!?!??? The headcanon specifically was about how they ship him and Cyrax and how Sektor calls him slurs and physically, mentally, and sexually abuses him as part of thier romantic relationship????????????? And they even gave examples of the horribly racist things he says to him¿¿¿? And that Cyrax was just okay with it??? And ended the post with like " I love my evil little man 🥰" No trigger warnings on the post either and when they were critiqued for it they were like "it's realistic and it's just my personal headcanons and you don't have to agree. Sektor is my comfort character and this is just how i see him." -type shit. (Deeper lore about said person. I actually interacted with them way before the headcanon thing. They approached me wanting to rp and they were so controlling they were basically just telling me what to do the whole time. super rude and impatient. So they just suckedl lol.)
Art blogs getting wierd asks that requested them to draw the fem characters in what was very obviously kink art but the asker would ask it in a way to trick the artist into making free fetish art for them. I got so many requests back in the day to "could you draw mileena for me :) but with her jaw wired shut? :)" or "could you draw kitana wereing a new pair of flip flops for me? That would make my day." like ????? Vague to the point of its sus but there were alot of minors in the fandom at the time including myself, i was in highschool at the time. but I was raised on deviantart so I could smell a wierd fetish from a mile away. But I did see other young artists fulfill these requests and several of them completely unaware that they were drawing kink art. Kink art is cool. But not when you're tricking minors into drawing it for you for free. (There was this mileena anon that was the most common one and I swear it was the same dude bc it was always something to do with with her getting her jaw wired shut, her getting bracess, or some other hardware being attached to her jaw/teeth.)
Selfshippers/heteroshippers being like "I know Kung Jin is the only Canon gay character in this very cis het and hyper masculine video game franchise- but im gonna ship him with my girl oc :) becuase he isn't real and it's not wierd to just pick the only gay one :) out of a huge line of big muscle men to choose from :) to ship with :) my female girl she/her lady with a vagina self insert :) or ship him with Cassie :) bc they are friends and should date :) I know he likes men :) and erasing that part of him :) erases :) a big part of his character :) and character arc :) but he would look cute :) kissing girls :) bc im :) girl :) and so is Cassie cage :) and my oc :) - is what I remember.
2015/16 really was a time for the fandom.
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fumifooms · 4 months ago
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i saw your post about mickbell and rin and i wonder what you think about mickbell x chilchuck?
Mickrin has gotten too real tbh I’m planning a new long af meta post for them… As for mickchuck… Eh it’s a fine and fun ship, I haven’t gotten the angle/manifesto yet though. They have a lot of comedic potential and I do love their mini arc in the background in canon of Mick thinking he’s a self-important greedy asshole, meeting him and getting protected by him, talking it out and he ends up implicitly joining the half-foot union~ But I don’t think they actually mesh well. Being foils to each other though there’s inherently a lot that could be played with tho. I really like this small Mick & Chil comparison thread on poverty for example
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What tips the scale in favor of them getting along? They both like to joke and good cheer, like when Mick tells jokes and funny anecdotes to his party at a tavern in a daydream hour extra. They couldn’t drink together much though because Mick has no alcohol tolerance and gets sleepy fast, see the alcohol chart. I could totally see a scenario where Chil peer pressures him to drink in his evil little schemes to have a laugh at the expense of others though that’d be a fun fic I bet. Also they’re both able to be serious when it counts, I could see them being coworkers and it not being horribly, they’re both careful with money too so that helps. In canon they were able to grow to a spot where they got along decent.
Ok and what in favor of them not getting along? Oh god they would butt heads so so much. They’re both very proud people but in different ways for opposite reasons. Mick doesn’t like to be bossed around or when people have like, for a lack of a better phrasing too much morals lol, like when Kabru said they wouldn’t steal the corpse retrievers’ money. Meanwhile Chilchuck hating not being on the right side of the law and looking down on half-foots who like, ~demean themselves and give a bad reputation to half-foots while doing so~ like pretending to be kids for scams is a whooole thing and important to his character. Like mentioned earlier they took very different proached to poverty and just as I don’t think Mick would apologize for having had to do crime it’s convictions that are deepseated for Chilchuck and partly built on a foundation of trauma and defense mechanism, wanting to be a model minority and shifting blame ykyk. I think Chil saving Mick gained him a lot of points in Mick’s esteem but I do think mutual respect would be a bumpy road with these two, though I can see it. What I do struggle with though is seeing them fall in love or working out in a romantic relationship.
There’s a lot but honestly the age gap doesn’t do it favors for me at all, I do think it’d influence their relationship platonic or otherwise, I have trouble not seeing the mentor angle but Mick could vehemently reject it which could even the fields out I suppose hmm. Because Mick’s deal is clinging onto power imbalance in relationships bc it makes him feel safer, because he’s broke and unlovable and obvi if someone has the opportunity to they’ll leave him behind etc etc, idk I think for him it’s best in a romantic relationship to be as even as possible, though this is a nebulous statement. I think he’s a bit hyperaware/hypervigilant when it comes to power dynamics, subconsciously, both bc he has to be careful with those as someone from a vulnerable class in vulnerable circumstances but also because that’s the oense he sees relationships through as well, if there’s an age or maturity imbalance I do think he’d latch onto that, wether really being comforted and dependent on Chilchuck’s "I’ll take care of everything" side or being put off by his air of importance because he has an aversion to authority. I dooo like that Chilchuck is very confrontational about others’ flaws because I think Mick needs that, but I also think Chilchuck is too proud and singeing to drive the points home well hm, too personal and impersonal at once. I’ll give it this thoughhh Mick having an intense fear of abandonment that turns his relationship abusive meanwhile Chilchuck’s wife left him? Oh hohoho tasty. Especially since I do think part of Chilchuck’s situation was neglecting his wife’s feelings and taking her for granted, borderline dismissive of her worries and being generally averse to analyze his or his family’s flaws… Two guys, sitting in a tree clinging onto people in diametrically opposed ways crying about their most important person leaving them. I do like for Mick when getting into a relationship is a way to cope with the Too Much fear and posssessiveness and everything he feels with Kuro, expanding on his social circle in the most convoluted ill advised way gdbdg. I just knowww mickchuck would be hella toxic but if someone writes a fic where they get somewhere good earnestly that’d be so interesting, just very shaky grounds but like I can see slivers of it in my mind it’d be dope.
But yeah like, would they balance each other well? Hmm. I def think Chil could teach a lot to Mick about relationships and emotional maturity but he’s not exactly great at either feelings or relationships as well yk lmaoo, and I don’t really think it’s mutual in that, I guess Mick could call Chil out on his pride but I don’t think he’d really change Chil for the better in his own right you know. Part of why I think there’s an imbalance also I guess. In every way Chil just has More and they don’t really know each other/what’s best for each other esp since they don’t really earnestly see each other in canon idk idk am I making sense. Chil’s not good at seeing others’ perspectives and he’s not really sensitive in general even when talking about topics where he should be, I think it’s a coin flip if he even tries or not depending on the situation.
Obligatory "How does Kuro fit into this Mickbell ship" but I think- How possessive Kuro gets in canon is up in the air bc we don’t work off a lot, I do think Kuro might get scared if Mick gets very close to Chil because he’s also worried about getting separated from Mick. The union leader? The union Mickbell alwayss told him he couldn’t join because they’d take Kuro away from him? They wouldn’t agree to them being together they would steal him etc etc? I see a lot of ground for him being antsy. Ohh yeah I forgot to mention it earlier but I def think Chilchuck would be horrified at the Mick & Kuro situation and be quick to be very vocal about it. It’s mister working rights advocate it’s mister "you’re sick in the head Laios" idk that’s an explosion waiting to happen I think. Ok but where I actually wanted to get to is that I love in Mick ships when Kuro is very happy because "Mick’s making friends!! He’s such an anxious child but he’s opening up to the world again aw yay" super supportive because of the Kuro extra comic with Kabru haha, even then there’s def ground for conflicted feelings, but yes I think it’s fun when Kuro is the emotional support very supportive of the relationship and happy of "Mickbell’s growth" meanwhile the relationship could be radioactively toxic but he doesn’t notice bc 1) toxic relationships is what he’s used to and he doesn’t notice it’s off 2) Mickbell is an angel who could do no wrong.
Also a note: I’ve been thinking of making a translation psa about it but Chilchuck’s type for blondes is specific to the golden type, bc in japanese the word was kinpatsu 金髪, which yes is used to refer to many shades but literally translates as ~gold hair~ and from what we see in canon it does seem to be specific to the golden shade, especially since Falin’s hair is infamously described as light brown (shown in picture below) so dirty blonde doesn’t quite cut it bc of different cultural conceptions of colors. Which, yk, it’s anyone’s choice what they want this to mean for their ship, wether it’s still a "close enough" and gets Mickbell pretty points or if it sparks nothing idk. Yk me though I think it’s so romantic when someone’s in love with someone who’s not their ideal type it’s so <3
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What I’d love to see for them ship or otherwise is- They both live in Kahka Brud, Chilchuck opens a general store post-canon, Mickbell opens a variety store post-canon… Business rivals when. The potential for sitcom shojo shenanigans is immense
So yes yes, interesting ship, lots to work with there, idk if they’d make each other better or worse but it’d be an entertaining trainwreck at the very least I’m sure. If it wasn’t clear my fave angle for them is prob the bonding over poverty trauma, I bet you dan do a lot of fun shojo plots and enemies to lovers energy and whatnot. Hopefully this was good food for thought idk I love Chilchuck I love Mickbell now I need to see them duel to the death. Their "I am not a person who can be loved for a very long time" swagger 💔
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raeflora · 7 months ago
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I find it weird how so many in the GG fandom love Nate but hate Chuck. I'm not a fan of either, but I don't find any of the main characters likable enough, though they're entertaining but I don't understand their logic. Nate made numerous comments that were questionable throughout the show and enabled and defended Chuck's mistakes and in season 6 he dates and sleeps with a teen as a grown man with a business. If he looked unattractive I'm sure people would criticize him more for it but he's charming enough for them to hypocritically sweep it under a rug. Nate told the police they couldn't talk to Sage because she's a minor and also complained on a date with her about it being too high school for him. He also made a weird comment trying to convince someone to go to a party because there would be grown women dressed like schoolgirls there among other comments. Chuck isn't better than him and Nate is more likable most of the show, but while Chuck's misdeeds weren't handled realistically enough it was acknowledged to some extent while Nate's was swept under a rug in the show. Nate sleeping with a minor was treated like a rich people thing since when he told his grandpa a grown woman was sleeping with him as a teen his grandpa talked of it as normal while Rufus who wasn't rich had a critical reaction to an adult sleeping with Dan as a teen. Miss Carr wasn't rich enough to walk away without backlash, so fans reinforcing the lack of backlash Nate got in the show and hypocritically being woke in Chuck's case to harass real people over a serious issue for stan wars sickens me. I don't even ship Chair and I find it disturbing and disrespectful to people who deal with shit in real life. It feel like they don't really care about the issue they're preaching about. Also most will go on about Blair being mistreated because of ship wars and stan Blair but will much lesser acknowledge the way she treated victims of abuse and slut shamed women as if they are less important because they aren't favorites. Her publicly outing Dan as Miss Carr's victim for her personal agenda was wrong and her doing things like making Eva out to be a prostitute less worthy of respect was distasteful. People judge others for enjoying Chuck's character and while Blair is more likable she was messed up and not someone most would get along with in real life. While I ship Dair I find it hypocritical how some Dair fans will unprovoked be self righteous about shipping them and say shit like they're less retarded than Chair fans while liking Blair who was messy and would likely not support abuse victims if it got in the way of her personal goals and would actively bully them instead. I confronted someone over this and they got offended over me calling them self righteous even though they were offensive first, accusing me of not really shipping them. I hate how people have to act like their side of the fandom is perfect and judge others for what they like in fiction.
hi!! so truthfully after yesterday I wasn't entirely sure where this ask was going but I think I get ur point. obviously I just wanna reiterate that I'm a chair shipper but I agree that a lot of nate's behaviour is overlooked bc he's attractive. like u said there are extremely vocal chuck haters who love nate as if he hasn't done plenty of problematic things too. I think that to a certain degree some fans have a selective memory and are quick to list bad things 1 character has done but conveniently ignore or excuse another character for worse or equally bad behaviour. ultimately for me gossip girl is a show about "bad" people so the idea that they all have to be made to be likeable goes against their character, none of them are meant to be especially good or nice and there's nothing wrong with that. obviously it really depends on the individual, but I think this idea that dair is morally superior to chair is kinda ridiculous bc at the end of the day it's a 00s teen drama where all the characters are varying levels of "bad" and like u said it's hypocritical too
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manofmanymons · 10 months ago
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You got any ships that'd have people side eying you?
Uuuuuuh out of any fandom ever? Short answer: yes.
Long answer: it's a little complicated what I would define as a ship for me bc when it comes to ships I actively ship and actually think should kith I have incredibly few. But when it comes to ships where someone else will be like "these two are cute together" and I'll go "yeah I see it" and maybe rt/rb a post about them it's like...almost any ship. Y'all have watched me write hcs for almost every mix and match combination of almost every character in Survive even though I have like,,,two ships from that game. And also what some people consider side eye worthy is different from what I do.
Like,,,for example, I know I've said it before, but I don't think human x digimon ships are inherently weird. I think it varies on a partner-to-partner basis. I've seen a lot of people in gg fandom ship Ruli and Angoramon or Kiyo and Jellymon and...yeah I think that's fine. But no one ships Hiro and Gammamon because that would be weird. And I don't think I really have to explain what the difference there is. But I know for some people it's just a hard no across the board lmao.
Probably the only ship I actively ship rn that people think is weird is, for reasons I will never understand, ThomAya. For those of you not in Genshin fandom they're just a classic cute longtime best friends to lovers ship that some people unironically think is incest because Ayaka told one person one time that Thoma is kind of like a second brother to her. These same people will turn around and ship him with her actual brother tho which...what? Like if you actually think they're related or whatever how would that not, in your eyes, also make him related to her brother I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU PEOPLE. I digress.
OH OH OH NOT TO KEEP GENSHINNING BUT FUN FACT I totally got canceled on twitter for shipping kaether back when it was implied but not explicitly confirmed yet that Aether's an adult so the "Traveler is literally minor-coded" crowd came for my ass. I tragically got blocked by one of my only mutuals who liked Digimon back then over that shit lakfdjak. Like sorry for assuming a character who had "seen the birth and death of stars" but is kinda short was at least 18. I was right though.
I know a lot of my KH ships are side eye worthy because they'll be between characters who have literally never met (i.e. most mix and match combos of the characters who are Nobodies of or replicas of or the embodiment of darkness extracted from the other major characters). Some of them are between characters who, despite literally having entire arcs dedicated to establishing that they are NOT the same person, people will still point at and call self-cest. (i.e. shipping Roxas with Sora or Xion). So again I genuinely don't think they're weird, but I know other people do.
I've seen people say it's weird to ship Pao-Lin and Lara in Tiger & Bunny because of their "age difference." They are 16 and 14. Sue me.
Here's a special segment for things I shipped in middle and high school that no one thought was weird back then but would DEFINITELY get a side eye in 2024.
I was a sebaciel shippper when I was like,,,12. Would I still ship it today? Probably no. But hey it was 2013 and I'm pretty sure the show WANTED you to ship them.
Almost any hetalia ship. I am not even joking, almost every character in that entire show was related somehow or another. It was like 2015. I was not immune to smashing pretty characters together and shouting "now kiss." I also was not doing deep dives into whether or not the immortal personifications of countries were technically related or had age gaps, I'm sorry.
Totally shipped Yoichi and Gekkouin from OnS. I mean my main ship was kimiyoi but multishippping is real. To be honest it was just a classic case of being a teenager and shipping the character I related to with the character I thought was hot. It was not any deeper than that.
TLDR: if any of y'all do now or ever have shipped anything weird, I'm not gonna judge you for it. I literally do not have the right to.
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ask-serendipity-sky · 1 year ago
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*different anon*
we all see what we want to see, we all shippers are the same
not really
in most groups of people there are the more deranged ones (toxic, delusional), but that’s NOT the whole group, usually it’s the minority.
with tkkrs, it’s their majority (damn near their entire group…)
we may make fun of tkkrs, but we shouldn't blame them for celebrating their ship moments. because if that was jkk, we'd be celebrating too.
yes, people are happy when people they like interact, that’s normal
i like when bts interact with eo bc i’m an army, i like when my bts bias line interact bc they’re my biases, and at times i’m happy when jkk interact bc i support them as a potential romantic couple
but jkk is not the pairing/duo i look forward to
and when they interact it’s not that big of a deal to me (unless they’re doing something crazy… gfct, hickey, shirtless live or photo)
i just happen to think they’re romantically involved/dating, but it’s not bc they’re my favorite duo (not that there is an issue if jkk are your favorite, as long as you like them as a duo bc of their bond and not just bc you think their dating!)
a problem a lot of tkkrs have is they either bias tk or tk is their favorite duo, so that is why they "feel" like they should ship them, even if they don't see anything romantic between tk
the amount of 'non jkk' biased (ex: ym biased or rap line biased jkkrs) jkkrs i've seen get questioned on why they don't ship their biases...
and no if the moments are based off mistranslations or stalker content, i don’t “celebrate” that, also bc i don't see it as "winning"
all shippers tend to give excuses to the other ship moments and try to reduce their ship value, but secretly we all wish it was our ship who did it, like tkkrs with jk's thirst birthday wish, they kept making it a friendly thing between bros, yet they were waiting and hoping for jk to do something similar for tae.
tkkrs are insecure losers, ofc they want other moments that others have (mostly jkk) bc they can see tk are not like that
i don’t care about other duos, and honestly if tkkrs left jm and jk alone, i wouldn’t have to even interact with them as much
bc most of the time, it's me protecting jm and jk AS PEOPLE, NOT BC OF SHIPPING BS
and pointing out non significant things isn't just something we do to tkkrs or vice versa, we do it to ourselves (jkkrs to jkkrs). bc we're aware of bts' culture, language, and jkk's history/bond
everyday, a different ship win and other lose, sometimes it's a good day for jkkrs, other days for vminers. and the members know that, that's why they keep feeding those moments.
the members having normal interactions is not the problem, it’s fans not being able to differentiate between a cute friendship and actual romantic relationships
using skinship or basic normal friendly interactions as a basis for romance, explains the whole they're all fcking/dating eo/poly jokes or only excepting queer members if it's bts as a whole group together or certain 'fan approved' ships (tk...)
but it's not something you should really be doing
and sometimes, even if another ship didn't get a moment, it's our ship that don't behave as we anticipated.
jkk don’t behave like we want bc they are potentially actually dating
it’s why so many fans find it hard to self insert and feel like they're third wheeling, and feel uncomfortable/don’t want to see that
what i'm trying to say, is that we are all the same. we all get hurt by other ships or we wish for more moments for our ship, and it's normal because we have no certainty we're right.
you only get hurt if you are basing a potential romantic relationship off of others and their interactions, and not just the two people you think might be involved romantically
i did not care that th didn’t post for jk’s birthday, and the only reason i would care is bc jk is my bias and i like when his ANY of members interact with him and are nice to him (especially for his birthday)
my basis of jkk being real is bc of jm and jk, not any one else
maybe it's different for you because you have evidence, but for the rest of us, we're just sailing not knowing where the ship will land and it can get sad and frustrated sometimes.
if an idea of a relationship being real or not is enough to affect your emotions negatively, then you need to detach anon, before you project those feelings on to jm and/or jk
you need to learn to love jm and jk as individuals and their bond as it is, not just the idea of them being romantic
Hi anon,
I agree with your answers.
For tkkrs, the absence of proof is proof that Jk and Tae are together. There are no maybes for tkkrs. And then they wrap everything up with hate.
We really should learn to not expect particular behavior from the members or jikook. They are real people who sometimes decide to share stuff with us. When they do, we appreciate it and when they don't, we appreciate that as well and move on.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
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ulircursed · 9 months ago
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♡ mananan would've made a better match for ayra i think (sorry andrei) but he didn't arrange a marriage at all so let's just roll with it
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from here! holy shit who is this guy changing the hair color changed everything
(the twins are here too! yeah, they get three children bc i do not like to shadow realm one of a pair of twins. they look the same as they do in canon bless u ayra and ur black hair)
but oh god ok in this au, ring reacted faster than all the conspirators and actually advised kurth to bring an entourage to meet mananan at the edge of the ribaut clan before reptor could assassinate the isacchian king. they get their peace treaty and the war ends! in exchange, mananan agrees (is forced to agree) to send ayra to grannvale to marry. because... something something od holy blood. maybe they take shannan too. anyway they are basically political prisoners grannvale is just too polite to say so.
and so she is wed to andrei, as the son of duke ring. at this point in my hc he has been officially declared heir i think. andrei makes no attempt to treat ayra as anything but a political prisoner, knowing that the chances of him having a major blooded child with a minor blood from a whole 'nother crusader are slim to none. at the same time, with ring right there and no conspiracy on the horizon (yet), it's not like andrei will do anything too crazy of his own accord (i've said this before, but while his relationship with ring wasn't good, it also wasn't bad enough that he would've at all wanted to kill his father without an outside reason). so they have a child.
meet black haired 'scipio'
the kid is born with only minor od blood. this is not great for andrei's mental health, and andrei makes his disappointment known to the kid from the moment he is consciously aware of his surroundings. at the same time, political prisoner ayra wasn't exactly encouraged to form a bond with her child so he also doesn't have a mother's support throughout all this
he ends up inheriting his father's self-worth issues wholesale, but worse bc at least father had minor ullr blood??? he has Nothing except the Political Prisoner's Bad Blood. hates himself deeply but tries to keep up a haughty appearance to cover that up. inferiority-superiority complex to the extreme
he will become a master knight in this iteration. gotta prove himself and his nonexistent self-worth u know
a few years later, the twins are also born! they have minor ullr blood and andrei ends up deciding that's worse, the idea that ullr's legacy is being mixed with another crusader's blood. when i say he doesn't have a healthy attitude re: ullr this is what i mean. he ends up liking the twins even less than 'scipio', and edain is aware of this.
ANYWAY back to the lore. a large part of the tellius gen i asks is just figuring out how we even get here ahaha. eventually, the conspirators find a chance during a big event that andrei is expected to bring ayra, and assassinate kurth during that time, blaming the whole thing on ayra but also insinuating that chalphy and yngvi were in on it. they publicly execute ayra and order that mananan and mariccle answer for their family member's crimes or they'll like. kill shannan too.
at this point byron and ring figure out what's going on, and they rescue shannan and get sigurd to smuggle him out of the country using the excuse of political visits to the surrounding nations. the yied desert is no longer a viable route at this point bc reptor and lombard would have troops there to intercept them, so sigurd plans to get to isaach via going through verdane and agustria then getting a ship north to silesse and then to isaach. he leaves with some of his friends, edain included, and edain brings her niece and nephew the twins, thinking that this might make their cover story of innocent visits more convincing if they brought children along (shannan is also along but he's the whole point of the excursion so he has to hide at all times). andrei then kills ring, takes the duchy and throws in his lot with the conspiracy 'for yngvi's sake'. byron also is killed.
everything that happens in canon with sigurd's party happens at this point, even though it's a little bit late. manfroy pulls strings behind the scenes to convince both verdane and agustria that sigurd is here to conquer them instead of basically just. smuggling a small child. and so they run into Problems along the way. he meets deirdre, they have seliph, manfroy comes in with a steel chair, etc etc. anyway the gang is in silesse when they receive news that mananan and mariccle are both dead, isaach has officially fallen, and grannvale knows what sigurd and co are up to and they'd best come back before they're all labeled as traitors. chapter 5 happens and the people/kids who do escape originally still escape.
ok the story took a huge extra few years to get back on track but ultimately everything stays the same, except scipio now has black hair, od blood and hates himself more. sorry.
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throughthevalleyy · 2 years ago
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in mine (e.w. x r)
a/n: so i wrote this a couple weeks ago at almost 3am so not my best work lmao. r’s details aren’t described but they do sit in ellie’s lap + they have a southern accent bc i said so<3 inspired by the song "UNIVERSE" by Kelsea Ballerini bc it was stuck in my head. takes place in the canon world but ignoring joel's death and ellie & dina's relationship.
pairing(s): ellie williams x reader
warning(s): mentions of death, killing, animal death (nothing explicit), and what's mentioned in the a/n
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Ellie has always loved the stars. As a kid she dreamed of the endless possibilities - worlds of hope and love and societies where there were no man-eating monsters and children had mothers to go home to. As an adult, she knows it was all just a weak attempt at comforting herself, a delusion hiding her own fears underneath.
Though she never resented the stars for her desperate attempt at self-consoling, it only made her long for them more. To reach the stars, to touch the moon, grasp a space rock. To hold something so beautiful and unburdened by humans and deadly fungus alike, something so delicate and rare. What else could she ever want more than that?
She thought the answer was nothing, that it’d always be nothing, until she met you. The mysterious traveler who didn’t speak much, only ever talking to Maria and Tommy, and only when absolutely necessary. Ellie might’ve seen you smile at Joel once, but it could’ve been a trick of the late August sunlight.
Others were wary of your arrival to Jackson. They questioned a kid - a seventeen year old with nothing but a knife, a handgun, a few spare rounds, and the clothes on their back - traveling through the ravenous countryside of the South alone all the way to Wyoming. All she saw was a badass like her, just as lost and looking for something to guide them to safety.
It took a few weeks for her to even find out your name, though at that point she already started calling you by the different constellations in her head - the wonder of images only seen when the stars aligned right kept living through stories that have been passed through to ages, to the wonder of a person they all knew nothing about. There was some poetic shit in there but she could never really figure out how to say it.
She’s called you Little Dipper, Ursa Minor, Small Bear for the boy put in the stars to be protected by his father, only for her to realize she knows nothing about you or your parents to make any assumptions like that.
Ellie tried Cassiopeia, for the queen known for her beauty, only you’ve never flaunted your own like she did.
The Zodiac signs felt a bit cheap, especially when Joel explained how everyone had one and they were all predetermined by one’s birth.
Orion and Canis Major felt wrong because you, again, were never one to flaunt about anything, especially killing animals. In fact, the one thing about you she did know was that the first thing you said upon arriving in Jackson was some sort of apology for killing an animal on the way there. Apparently no one had even had the heart to tell you that it was the very least of their worries.
She went through as many books as she could to find the perfect name, all for a person she even didn’t know. She spent her days reading and her nights drawing whatever she read about until finally she settled on-
“Argo, hey.” Short for Argo Navis, the collection of three constellations representing the ship sailed by Jason and the Argonauts in search of the Golden Fleece. Your story didn’t exactly fit Jason’s, but Ellie figured it had a nice enough ring to it. Plus, you’ve gotten quite used to it.
“Hey, Els. Joel said you were here so I thought…” You trail off after that. Ellie smiles, watching the way your hands find their way into your - her - hoodie’s pocket.
“C’mon in, babe,” she says after a moment. Your smile brightens and she thinks it could rival Venus at sunset. You walk over to where she’s sat on her bed, guitar left forgotten on the chair next to her. 
When you get to her, Ellie pulls you into her lap, smiling at the airy squeal that leaves your lips. “What’re you workin’ on?” you ask softly once you’re settled. She smiles yet again at the way your accent comes out, the way you rub your eyes and lean your head on her shoulder.
“Joel made some sheet music for a couple songs,” she answers. You nod, head moving closer to her neck as she talks.
“Play it for me?” you request. Ellie sighs, kissing your forehead.
“Fine, but I can’t promise it’ll be any good.” Gently, she moves you off of her so she can grab her guitar. Your head instantly moves to her thigh, and she doesn’t complain as she adjusts the tuning. She’s used to you cuddling up to her as she plays.
“Alright,” she whispers. “Apparently this one came out like a month before Outbreak Day, so it’s a little rough.”
The song is slow and sweet, a perfect explanation of the love Ellie holds for you, the impossible love she never thought was in the cards for her. She looks down as she finishes the final chords to find you fast asleep. As she puts her guitar away and settles in for the night, pulling you up to the pillows with her, she thanks her lucky stars for you, her universe.
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a/n 2: originally the song ellie sings was gonna be "Mean to Me" by Brett Eldredge but then ig i decided against it? lmao i just remember researching its release and then not wanting to figure out the logistics of tlou's timeline
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voidcat · 3 months ago
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-taps mic- give us your hot take 🗣🗣🗣
16. you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)
WHY DID THIS ONE GET LONG AS WELL- anyways again, written short and superficial bc u can already guess what comes after each answer in depth. this got too long and incohorent. i feel like that stereotypical adhd meme now....... thank u for the ask wife ily<3
tropes: highschool aus. youre stuck at school all day, still minors, prefrontal cortex still underdeveloped etc etc the downsides are soooo many. if ya want a good old modern au and have characters be classmates etc do a college au or smt. it gives more liberty too. used to dislike soulmate aus but turns out it was more abt the writing. they can be v good when written well (or w characters that match one another)
idk if this counts but people's need to always ship characters tgt like- do people not exist outside of relationships? is that the state we are in now? let them breathe. also vice versa when it comes to esp lgbt implied relationships for characters that are written w each other in mind. when erasing one, you take a part of the other one and toss it away too (ie: agott and coco in wha.) (ie for the former: dazai and chuuya. dazai and fyodor. tbh both dazai and fyodor w many charas... sigma w many charas. like for fyozai for example, u dont have to make them always abt ships those are character foils, i can assure u u will enjy the characters w/o shipping them at all times too... same goes for aku and atsushi as well.)
toji fushiguro on his own. there was a choso ship too ngl but i mightve just missed smt bc by then jjk became a chore to read so ill just skim over or read it quickly.
ykno that character type in media like edgy brooding man etc etc i wont even finish it iykyk, go touch some grass, learn to enjoy the small joys in life, accept that you cannot do everything alone or by self secrificing and accept the help from others. (the exact type of character that would miss the whole point of evangelion and prefer end of eva movie as the true ending... pls go get therapy)
again, the looks like a kid/teen but is actually a goddess timeless creature wtv thing.....
at the beginning of the series when they try to infodump the reader/audience on the lore of things by having a character recount stuff but its just heavy info dump and so painfully obvious theyre doing it for the sake of reader/audience?... yeah (aka the beginning of dune book) if we take this to fics: chill, not everything has to have plot, u can just write a timestamp type of thing, u dont have to overexplain everything, youre exhausting yourself for this too.....
idk how well this one fits but writing a character into smt painfully ooc for the sake of angst (like- cheating for some characters. or idk if youre gonna go for an infidelity trope at least lie the groundwork solid enough for it to make sense and fit.) also skaterat aus (im sideeying u haikyuu fandom from 2020..... if u were there u know exactly what i mean)
OK FORGOT TO ADD chatavters esp women whose entire purpose in a series is to contribute to the development of the male lead...... by extension manic pixie dream girls too
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dolls-self-ships · 9 months ago
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relived to see these comments and that I’m not the only one who feels this way. Thank you all for putting my thoughts into words
Also HEAVY heavy on this one
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I feel this so specifically bc I once had a mutual who self described as a pr0shipper, and being new to the community myself, I had no idea just how intense the whole feud between antis and pros was, and I genuinely thought there wasn’t any harm in interacting with them, since I had asked them privately if they didn’t condoned a very specific thing (being adults x minors, since that is very triggering for me and also illegal to possess content anyway of so like) and they said they didn’t, and that they called themselves a pr0shipper to express that they were a “ship and let ship” person (meaning they were cool with self shippers that explore abuse, dark themes, etc.) so I thought ok cool.
Cut to me receiving multiple anons telling me my mutual was a pr0shipper and that I needed to block them, and being put on a watch-list by a blog specifically dedicated to creating block lists for “good and pure antis” to block the “evil degenerate pr0shippers” (which honestly feels so icky to me bc if you come across someone you think is immoral just… block them? Why are you dedicating so much time to mass blocking people). It’s honestly giving witch hunt, like, y’all are acting like catholics.
I think it’s because, and understandably so, that the general consensus around most antis is that pr0shipper = ped0 and or ped0phellia condoner. Which is a fair assumption to make, since there ARE a lot of people that will label themselves pr0ship in order to produce that sort of content. And it’s gross. I hate it. Ped0phellia is something that deeply disgusts and triggers me. But when I have made it very clear that the mutual I was interacting with was NOT a supporter of that very specific thing, I still got put on that watch list, and by proxy, was probably considered a “possible ped0phile” by many people who saw that. And I’m going to be completely honest and vulnerable here, I have OCD, a very debilitating illness that gives me intrusive thoughts, and one of my biggest themes, is pedo0hellia. I have spent a lot of my life, constantly afraid of being a secret monster over something I wouldn’t be able to control, and being hated by default because of it. Hell, even just typing this out is triggering for me, but it’ll be a good exposure in the long run, and I feel this is an important post to make. I’m doing better now, I’m in therapy, but good god, some of you are fucking AWFUL to those who suffer with mental illness in this community. And for me, being out on that list, and by insinuation being accused of condoning ped0phellia, that was the breaking point for me. I couldn’t take it anymore, I was so scared of being shunned by the community that I unfollowed and blocked the mutual, and had to make a public statement.
And now, when I see DNIs with “dni if you support darkship” “dni if you ship with this and this and this” I can’t help but think, where is the line? No shipping with abusers and villains? What’s next? No shipping with slightly toxic partners/friends in fiction? What about good guys who made a really horrible mistake? The list could go on. And I really think the community needs to fucking figure out where it, the line, is.
But oh no, you’re so holy and righteous and good for hunting down anyone you so much as suspect is pr0ship. Good for you. Our great defender of all that is good and pure/s.
just saw someone on a self shipping post say to not use the word "obsessed" to describe their feelings for their f/o bc it's harmful to those with ocd and as someone with severe ocd please shut the fuck up and go outside oh my god
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firstaidspray · 3 years ago
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I need more people to appreciate Dying Light 2 especially for the characters. Hakon is mine first and foremost and also Vincenzo but the entire cast is interesting and cool even most minor characters in the Bazaar and Fish Eye. I'd like to talk about them.
(Note that there's one dude I absolutely hate but I'm not gonna spoil it. He's still interesting regardless of the fact that he's terrible.)
I don't really care for the boot boy PKs much but Aitor is chill even tho he's British and a cop. Rowe and his Squad are also pretty cool + they have a dude who literally looks identical to Liev Schreiber it's insane. He has a wife and his fate is..yeah he can't be self shipped with unfortunately. But he and his Squad were very fun!!
Seemingly minor characters like Margaret, Alberto and Vincenzo, Cillian, Danior, all great and all important in their own ways (sometimes to the story). Even actually minor characters that appear for like a single side quest, like Carlos, are fun and full of life.
Sophie, Barney, and the other Survivors are so likeable and easy to empathize with and honestly I can't get why you wouldn't. At first Barney seems like a dick but when you get to know him better he's chill. Sophie is an amazing character as well, and her bodyguard Hermann, too. Frank, leader of the Nightrunners, is great once you get to know him and allow him to begin his recovery from alcoholism and return to leadership. The story of the Nightrunners is incredible and if you side with Frank it only gets better. Especially for Lawan.
We even have LGBT characters!! Weird bisexual man Juan Rainer (on what seems to be a date with Vinny, then making out w Noelle, then having a threesome with them + flirts with Aiden a lot, straight up calls him a snack at one point + described on the wiki as "promiscuous with men and women") and sapphics Sarah and Jana (they have a pride flag in their room + are too close to each other for a hetero explanation).
It's unfortunate who plays Lawan but she's an incredible character and I love her and Aiden together. Her story was compelling and emotional and I really came to care for her. Hakon's story is so complex and honestly when you play, please give him the benefit of the doubt bc its more than it seems. Hell even as messed up as Waltz is for experimenting on kids and how much of a pain his boss fight is, I still felt sympathy for him and found him interesting and wished he had a better fate.
On a surface level in the beginning, Aiden seems like a typical gruff outcast white dude but is actually very empathetic and complex and has an emotional storyline that goes beyond the typical archetype he appears to be. I ended up loving him when I thought at first he'd just be a boring typical vengeful white man. He's not that at all.
We even have a special Resident Evil cameo!! Which I lit up at as soon as I found it. I won't spoil it but it was so cool.
Overall the characters in this game, major and minor, are all great in their own ways. Personally I'm more fond of the Survivors and Nightrunners bc I'm no bootlicker but even some of the PKs are alright. I recommend the game for its story, game play, and all that. It's a great game and I love it. But I love it ESPECIALLY for the characters.
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shotorozu · 4 years ago
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𝐭𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐦𝐞 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤
𝔰𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔰𝔬𝔲 𝔥𝔦𝔱𝔬𝔰𝔥𝔦 ᥊ 𝔯𝔢𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔯
𝘀𝘂𝗺𝗺𝗮𝗿𝘆: you find yourself in a bar that you and your ex used to go to regularly. the local bartender calls your ex- shinsou hitoshi; thinking you guys are still together. 
𝗮𝗱𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗮𝗴𝘀: angst to fluff (happy ending), sfw, pro hero au (aged up), drinking (alcohol mentions and intake) ex to lovers, minor todomomo (not the center of this fic) reader is in the top 5, some swearing. 
𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗱: [Y/N = your name, L/N = last name, H/N = hero name, ] f! reader, quirk not mentioned. 
𝗻𝗼𝘁𝗲𝘀: i also did this trope on ao3 with todomomo, so i better not see people think i plagiarized them because.. that’s literally me lol. also! i was very conflicted, bc i also wanted to do this with shouto but since I already have 2-3 fics in the making, i went with hitoshi (but let me know if you wanna see shouto’s version.) 
word count to be added when im not sleep deprived
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You swivel down another shot down your throat, not caring of the burn in your nose, nor do you care about the smell of the alcohol. 
You’re never like this, this is not the best representation of yourself, no. This is not who you are as a person, and the way your former classmates look at you with concern when you chug down another shot shows how unusual this is to them.
“Take it easy..” Momo pats your back, and you exhale heavily, putting down the glass. Everyone is certain that you’ll obtain some serious hangover, almost to the point that you’d have to take the morning off to treat your hangover. They’re aware that you’re not this careless, since you're in the top 5 after all. 
But they let you be momentarily, but why you may ask?
Because this is your way of coping a breakup with your boyfriend of 3 and a half years, Shinsou Hitoshi. They’re aware on how hurt you really are, and to be real- they were the ones that asked you to come out with them tonight to distract you. 
“They’ve been going at it for a while, it’s almost concerning.” Tsuyu comments, as she tends to a slightly tipsy Mina, holding her so she doesn’t fall face first into the floor. 
The least they could do is let you be, while you're not totally blacked out.
The local bartender- Maki, looks at you with concern when you order another shot, yet they still give it to you (with the slightest hesitation) since you’re such a good friend to her. (Your rank makes you very respectable, it’s almost intimidating! but your casual friend ship with the bar tender says other wise.) 
But on the contrary, you'd know when you’ve reached the limit, and you’d probably know when they’d start refusing your requests of another shot. 
One by one, their friends depart from the table, either they were too drunk to even handle it so they were brought home, or something came up- everyone could agree that they all had some sort of worry towards their dear friend’s very out of character coping mechanism. 
“I have to go soon,” Momo sighs, when she receives a text from Todoroki- though it’s very obvious that she’s still very concerned for you, considering that she’s the only friend left. “Please take care of Y/N, Maki-san.” 
Maki nods at your black haired friend, and the creation hero looks at you one last time before leaving the bar. 
Lifting your head, your words are slurred as you request for another shot, which seems like the umpteenth time that you requested for a shot. The concerned bartender still attends to your needs, yet- she’s contemplating of calling someone if you ask for another. 
Likewise, you finish that shot in a moment, and you slump down on the table. Eyelids fluttering slowly as your laughter is filled with intoxication, your cheeks are warm from being inebriated from the intake of alcohol. 
You don’t notice how your concerned bartender dials up a number, requesting for them to pick your drunken state. 
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“Did you know the word bed is shaped like one?” 
It’s now past midnight, and you’re mouthing off about something random, the train of thought is endless (but it’s more like a shower thought ramble.) Your fists are deep into your hair- holding your head up so it doesn't hit the table, meanwhile Maki paces back and forth- still tending to other requests from the very few customers left. 
“Now that you’ve mentioned it, yeah.” They answer absentmindedly, “Man, I haven't seen you in nearly 4 months! it’s been a while. You knows how to hold your alcohol so frankly, this is the first time I’ve seen this side of you!” 
“Oh really?” You slur, continuing on to spout out purposeless words.
The bartender’s response is a total blur, words turning into background noises, and a part of you is lucky to still be conscious and still functioning (yet it's barely) 
“..But you hold it well for--” 
You’re also very lucky that you’re a little too under the influence to even register the name.
You didn't know you’d take this breakup with him harshly. The most you were expecting was just.. crying while eating ice cream. 
But no, it was an utter shit hole. 
The door busts open, and the bartender’s expression seems to brighten up “Ah, there you are!” 
You grumble, the bar’s lights causing your eyes to sting- and your head hurts too. You might need some aspirin later.. you close your eyes shut. The bartender is chatting with the unknown person, and frankly- you just wished you didn’t intoxicate yourself this much.
“Y/N,” 
The baritone voice is almost sufficient in sobering you up. Turning to the familiar voice, you see the tall figure, sporting bedraggled purple hair. 
It’s Shinsou Hitoshi. A reason why you’re in such a mess, coping with a breakup in the first place. 
You almost fall off your chair in sudden revelation to the appearance of your ex lover. It was almost like.. your drunken state was making you see things- a possible hallucination maybe? it has to be that. Maybe it’s the side effect of the growing headache?? What was in that shot?
“Ugh, I must be crazy,” You wipe your cheek from slob, your head throbbing from the growing headache. The weary purple head raises an eyebrow, and the bartender is confused by the sudden tension. It's abnormal, alright.
The reason why you broke up was because of his lack of self care. 
Again, it’s not like he was being a shithead and cheating on you, or being a total prick of a boyfriend and neglecting you, and it’s definitely not the other way around either. 
It was probably the opposite. He'd neglect himself for days on end, not caring about himself, and not caring about his own being. It was.. not what you wanted at all. 
You figured just because the both of you are rising up heroes, and also adults- he would’ve gotten a grip of not neglecting himself. 
But even habits like that don’t get old. 
“Hitoshi- seriously, when was the last time you’ve took a breather?” growing slightly irritated by Shinsou’s continuous neglect of his own self care, and also the fact that he’s clinging onto you 24/7. 
“It doesn’t matter.” He shrugs, pinching your cheek. Heck, you should be glad he wants to be with you for the majority of the days. But you can’t tolerate him when he’s constantly complaining about being tired, although making little to no efforts in taking care of himself. Heck- his dark circles got even darker- how is that even possible?
“’Toshi, it really does. You can’t neglect self care.” Your brows furrow when he chooses to ignore your words. “You’re not listening to me.” 
“You should be glad that I want to spend time with you.” 
It stung. What the hell did he even mean by that..?? scoffing, and slightly offended, you reply “That’s not the main issue.” you cross your arms “We’ve talked about this before, remember?” You reason out, giving him the nice benefit of the doubt. You'd like to be civil here. 
He ignores you once more, and you can actually feel the irritation grow within you. “I don’t want to be the reason why you neglect yourself.” 
“I’m really not, okay?” He retorts back, “Why do you always have to bring up things that don't matter?” 
Aggitated, you snap back “Wh- we’re talking about you! Hitoshi, we’ve talked about this- and you said you’d work on it! do my words mean nothing to you?” Hitoshi’s gaze flickers up, only staring at you, as if it was his own way of judging you and your intent. 
And that’s how it erupted into a full fight, and into your eventual breakup. 
You didn’t know how expressing your genuine concern for him blended into him saying things he’d never mean in his entire life. He doesn’t stop you when you walk out, not saying a thing at all
There was no verbal breakup. It was just.. there. 
The unknowing bartender interrupts the nonverbal tension, “I thought you’d be a lot happier, y’know.” 
“We-”
“..’ll get going now, thanks again.” Before you know it, Hitoshi’s hooking your arm around his shoulders— as he walks to the door, leaving the very familiar bar.
It’s awkward, surely. You’re not sure why he was there, and you’re not so sure as to why he decided to come to your aid in the first place. If Maki called him, and he was requested to come to you in question, then he could’ve just..
“..sent someone else,” You mumble. You reek heavily of alcohol, and your skin is undeniably warm. Frankly, he doesn’t remember the last time you were like this— was it the first time you had a drink? it was years back at this point.
You’re pretty.
Beautiful,
That’s one thing that hasn’t change. Surely, what changed things was the fact that he said some.. horrible things— and refused to even listen to your concerns, which ultimately cause your breakup. His relationship status changed into some lonely and young hero, and his heart ached in different ways.
But you’re still very beautiful, to him.
Doesn’t matter if you’re all dolled up for a hero interview, or a mess on a off saturday. You’re still beautiful.
But now— he’s focused on your words, and he’s taken aback when you continue to speak, causing the both of you to stop in the middle of the sidewalk.
“You’ve coulda asked s-someone else to pick.. me up.” Your words are slurred, a normal side effect of being drunk. However, seeing your ex has surely sobered you up.
“That’s true,” Shinsou moves to continue walking, so you guys weren’t standing on the middle of the side walk on a cold early morning.
“What are you even doing at a bar at 1am?” He changes the subject, but you’re still caught on to your previous question. “You didn’t answer my question at all, meanie.” Her grip is firm, so there’s no way of budging it.
His laugh lacks humor, yet he feels obligated to answer her. Or else they’d be stuck on the sidewalk, due to her hero grip.
“It didn’t feel right,”
“Yeah sure.” You grumble, “Because you suddenly care.”
“I’ve always cared, Y/N.”
“Really?” You say, not really believing him anyway. “You seemed pretty sure with your words back then to care.” Despite being toxicated, your words have undertones of venom
“You may say that, but.. I’ve always cared.”
“Then why the hell did you say all of that back then, huh?” Overwhelmed by seeing your ex, who you still fucking loved by the way— tears grow at your eyes. “If you’re lying, stop it.” You say, literally not in the mood to be lied to right now.
You’re literally being carried by your ex, while intoxicated, while also having a throbbing headache.
“I’m not.” Hitoshi answers firmly. A certain edge grows in his throat, and he hates it.
“Yes you are,” Your voice is now wobbly, it’s really just a mix of your overwhelming emotion, as well as your drunken state. “You would’ve told me that weeks ago!”
You were always right, and he knows it. Ever since from the last moment you shared with him, your words were just.. nothing but the sheer truth. Yet, he’s only hurt you— because of his denial.
He knows you’re right, and he knows that he had his habits of neglecting his own care. Though that’s why he decided to change, that you were in fact- correct all this time.
And he was just an ass to even admit it.
“You’re right,” His fists crumple, grip tight as he fights his sudden urge to break. “You were always right. I’ve always cared, and you’ve always cared about me. Yet I was worried of changing, not being around you just so that I could take care of something that’s not really important-”
“But you are, Hitoshi,” You sob, nearly collapsing onto the ground— “You matter so much, yet you don’t even see it, and if I’m going to contribute to your destructive ways— then...”
“How could you? If you don’t care about my words, then do you care about yourself..?”
Shinsou sighs, bending down to meet your level— you’re gasping and sobbing into his chest, tears angrily running down your cheeks.
“I know, kitten, and I’m sorry.” Wiping your tears with his thumb, he speaks once more. “That’s why.. I’ve thought about what you’ve said, and I decided to take care of myself a bit more, I want you to know that.. I do care.”
You glance up at him, the city lights luminating his face— enough for you to see the adorning expression he’s sporting.
“..really?” You speak, in a nearly hush tone, again— you’re still very drunk, and overwhelmed with emotions. This could’ve been passed off as a fever dream, and you could’ve been normal with it.
“Yes, Y/N.” His mouth perks up into a small smile.
“Then.. would you allow me to start over with you again?”
Pushing against Hitoshi, you envelope him with your arms— it’s almost cliché and dramatic, the way you collapse into his arms like it’s the last day on earth.
But.. Shinsou’s glad he has you again. Finally a chance to prove that he’s changed.
ーーーーーーー
BONUS
You sit on the counter of your apartment, hands covering your face— as a way to shield your eyes from the prodding sunlight that peaks from the windows.
“This should help,” Hitoshi hands you a cool glass of water, “The way you hold your alcohol is terrible,” You chug down the glass of water, and you take a jab at him with your feet.
He hisses at the sudden attack, and only chuckles, “You’re mad because it’s true kitten,” He teases
“Shut up,” You draw him in with your leg, setting the glass down, “Just kiss me already,”
And so he does, pressing your lips against his— savoring the sweet warm moment he’s been practically starved of for nearly 4 months.
He pulls back, his expression showcasing that he’s tasting the aftermath.
“Ew, you taste like beer.”
You glare at him, and take another light jab, “Of course I do, Idiot.”
Despite saying all of that, he pulls you in once more.
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likes and reblogs are appreciated, thanks for reading (literally the first fic i’ve ever posted, so y’all BETTER like it or i’ll 💀)
i do not own bnha/mha and it’s characters. boku no hero academia/my hero academia belongs to horikoshi kohei, i only own the writing
do not plagiarize my work :)) (literally don’t, it’s 3:26am on a tuesday.)
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i-love-side-characters · 3 years ago
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hot take for the aoas fandom but i don’t ship curaday. not bc i just don’t like the ship but bc i don’t like how faraday was curie’s previous mentor. idk... it just seems manipulative and predatory to me that they ended up together with the power dynamic so unbalanced.
hmm i definitely see where you're coming with that. and don't worry its fine that you don't ship them!!! that's perfectly acceptable!!!
i have to say a few things first on the predatory aspect, if that's alright. also disclaimer this is quite rambly, i'm sorry i'm just very tired.
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thunderhead + the toll quote used!!! not really spoilers, but careful if you haven't read books 2 and 3!!!
if you're not a coward here's my askbox
now in my opinion, there are a few things that might make it seem as though curaday is a very predatory relationship. one, the mentor/apprentice problem. two, the age gap. three, the essence of their romantic relationship. because you didn't state why you felt it was predatory, i'll adress those issues.
1) the nature of their relationship during the mentor years
the "original" curaday as such wasn't really a romantic relationship. there was no hint of the relationship between the two while faraday was mentoring curie. at the time when their relationship was only mentor/apprentice and indeed adult/minor, there were no requited feelings from faraday.
"....then tore [the journal entry] out the next day, when i broke down and confessed my love with eyeball-rolling melodrama. [...] [scythe faraday], on the other hand, was a gentleman [...] and let me down as easily as he could." ― scythe curie, (page 347, scythe)
just to be thorough, here are several definitions of "let down." all links in sources.
convey bad or disappointing news in a considerate way, so as to spare the person's self-respect. ― idioms free dictionary
to try to give someone bad news in a way that does not upset them too much. ― macmillan dictionary
an unrelated expression is let someone down easy. this phrase refers to breaking up with someone in a relationship in such a way that they are not devastated of overly sad. ― writing explained
so it's clearly implied that faraday said no to her. after curie confesses her feelings, she describes what happen after that.
"i lived in [scythe faraday's] house, and remained his apprentice, for two more awkward months." ― scythe curie (page 347, scythe)
note that there is no mention of there ever being a romantic relationship between the two scythes during the remainder of the mentorship. this shows that no adult/minor predatory behaviour had occurred between the two scythes.
just to add on, some thoughts from my friend ref. ( @jam-is-my-food )
"if their romance took place when or anytime around when curie was his apprentice, yes. absolutely that would be a tilted power dynamic and uncomfortable and Not Good."
this, as well as the quotes, removes the "predatory" aspect of your concern. but that's just my opinion!!! you can still believe that is an unhealthy and wrong relationship. but personally i don't think the mentor/apprentice concern is a factor, since the romantic aspect took place much later.
2) the age gap during the years of their romantic relationship
there is a 5 year age gap between the two scythes. according to the wiki, at the start of scythe, curie is 219 years old, and faraday is 224. during scythe curie's explanation of her crush on faraday, she pinpoints their exact ages.
"i was seventeen and full of righteous indignation at a world that was still heaving in the throes of transformation." ― scythe curie (page 345, scythe)
"i was seventeen, remember. childish in so many ways. i thought myself in love." ― scythe curie (page 346, scythe)
"but at twenty-two, [scythe faraday] was just as inexperienced in such matters as i was." ― scythe curie, (page 346, scythe)
the five year age gap during the mentorship would have made it an adult/minor relationship, but as they grew older that simply isn't the case.
"then, nearly fifty years later, when we both had turned our first corner and were seeing the world through youthful eyes once more―but this time with the wisdom of age on our side―we became lovers." ― scythe curie (page 347, scythe)
they became romantically involved until fifty years had passed. which would put curie at around 67, and faraday at around 72. curie even outright says that they had "the wisdom of age on [their] side." this shows that curie believed that both parties were mature in their starting of a romantic connection.
here is some more input from ref. ( @/jam-is-my-food )
"and, adding on to [the earlier statement], if faraday was the one who had liked marie when she was his apprentice. even if a lot of years had passed, that would i think still make it inherently predatory and yikes.
but the thing is, that's not what happened. all that happened when she apprenticed for him was that marie had a crush on michael.
and he turned her down. because she was a kid. and that's the end of it."
this, i would say, addresses the general complaint of the age gap between the two. most often people believe that because faraday apprenticed curie that he was a lot older but that's not true. the gap is only 5 years. now that absolutely does not make their relationship "not predatory", but it does show that both parties were mature in their decisions.
3) after their romantic relationship + friendship
now this part is less technical than the others. this is mostly my opinions. but just to start off, i want to look at their relationship after the 7 deaths and 70 years.
your feeling of their relationship is that it is "manipulative and predatory". now i've never been in an unhealthy relationship before, but i don't believe this is one (please correct me if i'm wrong! i am not speaking from experience here and could easily make a mistake!).
out of everything, their treatment of one another after the romantic relationship stands out to me the most. personally if their romantic had been unhealthy in that sense, i don't believe they would have stayed friends as they did.
i had written an essay a while about curie and faraday together. if you could read it that would be great! however i'm linking my friend nisha's ( @genyyasafin ) reblog of it, as she adds in a small bit at the end about how faraday humanizes curie. [ here ] is the link.
as i was saying, i don't think this is a predatory and manipulative relationship simply from the way they act afterwards. they are described as old friends constantly, and that friendship seems natural, to me at least. now you could be saying that this is a manipulative relationship and neither of them notice, but i don't think that's true.
“seven deaths, and seventy years later, many things had changed. we remained old friends after that, but nothing more.” ― scythe curie (page 348, scythe)
"i have observed the rise and fall of the romantic relationship between [scythe curie and scythe faraday], as well as the many years of devoted friendship that has followed." ― the thunderhead (page 383, thunderhead)
these two show that even the thunderhead, which is an incredibly knowledgeable force, does not seem to be troubled by their relationship.
not to mention this quote:
"other scythes―the ones i'm friendly with―will call me marie." ― scythe curie (page 235, scythe)
and through that quote it is shown that both curie and faraday are comfortable around each other. this isn't every instance in the books, but the ones i found quickly.
"marie―scythe curie that is―...." ― scythe faraday (page 371, scythe)
"and you, marie." ― scythe faraday (page 383, thunderhead)
"where are you my dear marie?" ― (page 102, the toll)
i didn't add in any quotes where its the reverse and she calls him michael, because he never mentioned his policy for first-name-basis, but this shows how comfortable curie is around faraday. not to mention it is implied that curie and faraday talk often, as curie knows about an event that only faraday, citra, and rowan know about.
"didn't you already attend a family wedding?"
citra wondered how scythe curie knew that, but wasn't about to let herself be derailed. ― scythe curie - dialogue, citra terranova - narraration (page 231, scythe)
the comfort in which they speak to and reference one another suggests to me, at least, that there is not a manipulative intent or feeling in the relationship.
4) conclusion i suppose
if you read all the way here, then i applaud you for your dedication and i thank you very much. that seriously means so much to me.
to anon: this essay was a whole 1,429 words. i am so sorry. however i do disagree with your opinion but i hope i've voiced mine in a somewhat coherent manner. thank you so much for reading all this way!!!
5) sources:
scythe curie wiki
scythe faraday wiki
arc of a scythe - book one: scythe
arc of a scythe - book two: thunderhead
arc of a scythe - book three: the toll
let down - idioms by the free dictionary
let down - macmillan dictionary
let down - writing explained
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redxblueihateloveyou · 3 years ago
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1/2 "Explore the fuck was that" Xiaoge is not Xiaoge and talking is not the problem here. It's literally everything thats the problem. Also like you I've also read all the books, but failed to put into words why Xiao Yu Liang's and Huang Jun Jie's Qilings didn't give me any divergence from the original character despite the changes, while others did and pretty drastically. I thought it was a bit irrational on my part, but you just sorted it all out so effortlessly I'm a bit jealous
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Lol I said the exact same thing, the talking and the phone was not a problem as some say, he has a phone in the book too at some point and talks more than you'd actually think, it's just that literally nothing about him is Zhang Qiling. Literally not one vibe or even tiny feeling. I don't know how that happened honestly.
AAAAAAAAA I saw the smile comments too lmao. I was like who's gonna tell them. Not only he smiles, he's full on laughing in the 2nd book already, when Wu Xie is using his spit as a lotion lmao. And Wu Xie was so happy about, he was like "I saw him smile before, but it was always so bitter and cold, this was the first time he smiled genuinely, he just needs to spend more time with him, we'll get him there" T_T Before that his smiling was legit a bit scary tho, sometimes brash, like when he told him about the stairs and he went "oh really?" haha
I thought about it and I honestly have no idea about the reference point for some people. I think maybe they go from that first adaptation? Maybe they think it's how he is in the book? Idk. It just weirds me out that I feel like some created some their own picture in their head and then judge everything from there throwing "thats ooc" left and right. Like this "Xiao Ge doesn't smile thing". Maybe it's because of the "Poker-face" thing, but do they know that "Men You Ping" doesn't actually mean that, it was just the closest thing you could come up with with english alternative to keep the nickname short (like I doubt it would read well if he kept calling him a bottle xD). Like according to Wu Xie since the very first book, his hubby can't even lie, so he's definitely not a poker face at all. He also gets pissed pretty easily and he likes to fool around sometimes too (like troll Wu Xie and Fatty obviously).
He's also not emo and not the "mysterious hero from some romance", not a stone and not a zooty. I don't know where this all came from tbh.
I can really debate 24/7 about this, but they're 100% Qilings, just slightly changed and softened accordingly to what they'd be like at this point of their relationship, if he did write it in (and I'm like pretty sure I'm right about this). It's the way they behave, how they act in certain situations, how they're with Wu Xie, how they're with other people, the right amount of sass and being done with everything, just the overall picture, the "you're an idiot, but you're my whole world". But also you know, that strange feeling that Wu Xie describes, like "when he's there, everything is suddenly alright" lol (just the magical safety vibe esp in SOP). I literally don't know how ppl who read the whole thing watched them and thought "thats not right". It's the fucking overall feeling of.. yes, i'm watching Zhang Qiling.
Just change the book's impending doom of tragical "you're my whole world, but I can't stay and there's no way for this to work" to "we actually have a future and I want to stay in our home with you" and that's basically Yuliang's and Junjie's versions (one on the way, one fully there by the end). But even if for some reason you can't accept this, I still don't get how some could hate it, cause overall they still have basically everything they need. Unlike others who are way off in my opinion, bc of the weird templates they are.
And about "Explore the fuck was that" (lol I'm gonna use this title from now on) seriously, no offense to this creation and everyone who liked it (no judging here for real, everyone likes what they like), I'm not gonna heavily diss anyone or anything, I don't really care for the thing, just telling the truth. No one who's participated in this thing have a fucking idea about the characters they're playing or writing about.
I mean, as a fan many things that were adapted from books, I already do not care for minor divergence or even bigger once, if it makes sense and you see the care and understanding of the characters, but sadly here it felt like no one cared. Like for example honestly if someone asked me what would you choose "watching wu xie and xiao ge but not 100% sticking to the plot" or "loosely watching the plot, but it's not wu xie and xiao ge", I'm gonna pick the first option.
And some will say that's it's only the writers/directors mistakes for not explaining or guiding actors etc, but to be honest it's not completely true, bc as we know many actors if they really care before taking on the role actually try to do a research about the character and read the material to understand what they're playing. Especially if it's such iconic characters of a franchise Сhina's been going crazy over for like a decade.
Like how the hell happened that Zhu Yilong for example while playing embodied all the Wu Xie's traits througout the whole book series from behaving exactly like young Wu Xie did in certain needed parts to going to the cold, strategic and rational old self in others, I mean, they could've just go with the "Restart" one, where not much happens and he could've played just that. But literally each time he did something, I was like "yeah, that's my boo". And that wasn't the part of this exact book, it was part of Wu Xie. Like the way he behaved, acted in some previous situations that you know its him. That's happening only when the actor knows who he's portraying.
Or Yuliang knowing and loving and feeling the character he plays, because he wanted to know and cared.
It's just strange to me, bc if they're not making it for the fans, then for whom do they even make it? For themselves? It's really stupid no matter how you look at it. Like your success depends on it, so what's the point in sinking your own ship I will never get.
I also do not get how could they just fail literally everything. Like casting was a miss already, but good acting and chemistry and putting character's soul in it could've make it great still, but they have literally none of anything, it's just fascinating to me. I just don't think I ever seen something like that, it's kinda funny.
But this is like once again just my opinion. Like everyone is free to think what they think, but maybe just stop yelling "OOC" without knowing the original character, cause maybe it's not really OOC. Like book Xiao Ge is not exactly what many ppl claim him to be really.
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chaos-burst · 4 years ago
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your homebrew is super impressive !! you also wrote at some point that your setting is completly homebrew is there anything you like to share about it? your campaign posts are very cool too ! reading makes me wanna play with my group too but covid : /
Hey there! Thank you for the kind message, I’m glad you enjoyed the small homebrew stuff :D My setting is completely homebrew, yeah, because I have no self restraint and I love worldbuilding. Bless my players’ patience with me and my endeavors.
Have a random bullet point list about things that shape my setting:
It all started because I wanted Sky Pirates. So I made some. They live on a flying island, they have flying ships and they are united under their leader, Queen Yezenia - a mystical and legendary figure that most people don’t even believe exists
Nature fights back in my setting. Druids are illegal because magic that taps into the forces of nature is deemed dangerous and unstable. Druids have banded together to help nature fight back under the banner of an organization called the Green Ward.
I splitted magic into three classifications for my setting: Arcane, Divine and Primal. Arcane is considered the highest form of magic. Divine magic is mostly considered meh. Primal magic is illegal and punishable by imprisonment or even death. (Since this system was made by people with high arcane affinity, aka Elves, it is flawed. Evocation Wizards or Nature Clerics would certainly be side eyed because they use nature based magic, even though they are neither Druids nor Sorcerers. The Elves don’t care much.)
My setting is a continent that used to be made up of many little provinces that existed side by side. All of that changed when, according to elvish historians, the first king of the empire united the provinces against an enemy invasion and founded the Empire of Enor. Elves are the ruling class (or race. you know) in this setting and they dictate laws, culture, religion etc.
My Dwarves used to have magnificent kingdoms under the mountains. Those kingdoms were lost by unknown means and Dwarves are now exclusively surface dwellers, because the depths under the mountains are inhabited by Duergar. Orcs live in the swamps in tree houses and are competent healers/midwives/pathfinders. My halflings are poly and adopt everyone who doesn’t have a home. My drow are desert nomads who worship their ancestors. There are no evil races in my setting because evil races suck. (I cannot say anything more about other races bc. Spoilers.)
My deities are divided into major and minor deities. They work pretty similar to Terry Pratchett’s gods - the more followers a deity has, the more power they get. Currently there are only seven major deities who reside in the Upper Planes. The others are minor deities who actually run around on the continent and do their own thing. Some of them are - you guessed it - illegal.
I love me some guilds and factions, so I made an assassins guild, a thieves guild that was founded by a minor goddess hundreds of years ago before she vanished. Mystery! I have a famous band of smugglers, an archeologists guild, a wandering black market and ten billion more.
My players have discovered that the world is out of balance! Oh No! Old Gods are dying! Some of them have been sleeping for hundreds of years and are now waking up! Ancient ruins of ancient civilizations have been uncovered! Dangerous diseases plague different parts of the Empire! Minor deities have told the players that the world was broken a thousand years ago! Drama! Primal magic is dying, and so are primal magic users! There is a lot of stuff going on. And can you believe that all of this was 70% inspired by The Last March Of The Ents from Lord of the Rings.
They just reached level 5, so there is a still tons to uncover and learn :D I’m sorry that you haven’t been able to play D: We usually play via discord, because we live far away from each other (and also Covid). Maybe that might work for your group too?
I’m glad you enjoy my ramblings about my campaign ^-^ It makes me happy. Both the campaign and that my players (and some other people) enjoy it <3
Thanks for asking!
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mcfiddlestan · 4 years ago
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Ship ask game: Loki/Tony, Tony/Bucky, Bucky/Loki.
Loki/Tony - Ship it
1. So, when Avengers came out I was on Twitter A LOT. I followed a lot of fellow Marvel fans and discovered the exciting world of Twitter RP. I started following a bunch of Tony Stark and Loki accounts (among others, but they were my fave characters after Avengers. Also shout out to Loki-Motion and Ant-Man!! I miss you.). One Tony Stark I followed was named @_Chaotique, and he was partnered with a Loki (can’t remember the name). Following their “romance” made me start shipping Frostiron and I went looking for more Frostiron stuff. By August (Avengers came out in April), I was writing my first Frostiron fanfic and my phone was full of Frostiron pix and edits. I was obsessed! Fun fact: I still am. Lol. Plus, I started talking to the writer of Chaotique through PMs, we struck up a friendship, were a couple for nearly four years, and he remains one of my closest friends today.
2. Obviously the whole enemies to lovers thing is always fun, but when people ask why I ship it I always point out how Tony and Loki have a similar story that just took different paths. They both have daddy issues and sense of self issues. Tony struggles with living in the shadow of his father, Loki struggles with living in the shadow of his “golden child” brother. They’re both super intellectual, sarcastic, and witty (the verbal battles omg), and there’s a lot to explore with them together and separately regarding the masks they wear with everyone and the front they put on, and the amount of vulnerability underneath.
3. Idk if it counts as an unpopular opinion, but I’m not a fan of fics that make Loki out to be weak-willed and kind of a simp. The characterizations that make him this person that constantly needs to be rescued whether by Tony or Thor really miss the mark for me. Yes, he can be blind to his faults and his flaws, but he doesn’t need someone else to baby him.
Tony/Bucky - Ship it
1. I don't even know what got me started on this ship. I don’t think it was until Civil War that I started and I’m pretty sure it was fanart that got me started. I haven’t read much fanfic, just little snippets of stuff on Tumblr, and my venture into RPing them was very short. It’s a very minor ship for me but one I totally want to get into more and write fic on it (I do have a Security Guard AU I’m working on for these boys tho).
2. Like I said, I haven’t delved too deeply into this ship just yet. So, so far the only thing I really like about it is it’s two of my favorite characters and two of my favorite male actors being paired together.
3. No, not really.
Bucky/Loki - Ship it
1. Um...I love villains. And don't give me the “Bucky is not a villain blah blah blah.” Yeah, I know. But for the majority of CATWS, yes he was! And I was shipping and writing Winterfrost before that movie came out. The writer of Chaotique created a Winter Soldier to RP in summer 2013 and I created a post-Avengers/pre-Dark World Loki to pair with him. There’s something very intriguing about two dark souls finding each other and simultaneously healing each other while also lowkey (haha) indulging in their dark sides. Like, we literally wrote a scene about a discussion and comparison of knives turning into some hot sex. But also, when it came to our RP at least, there was a lot to be explored with Loki, an anti-hero who has come to terms with his issues and is already on his journey to healing, helping Bucky, arguably an antihero himself who is just starting to come to terms with his trauma. Not unlike Frostiron, Loki and Bucky have an understanding of what each has been through and there’s a bond there.
2. Like I said, I like villains. I like darkness. I like unconventional love stories. Winterfrost is full of that. There is an underlying darkness to the Winterfrost relationship that could be explored. I wrote a fic, one of my first Winterfrost ones, called Can I Bum A Ride? which was basically porn with some plot (and written off a prompt from a Tumblr friend). The story is basically Loki picks up hitchhiker Bucky in a downpour, they stop at a motel for the night (*gasp* there’s only one bed!), and get it on. There was a moment where I considered writing a sequel that found them going down a not-so-wholesome path. Like, a path that pretty much turned them into road-tripping serial killers. For various reasons I didn’t, but I feel like they are two characters that lend themselves pretty easily to that dynamic.
3. Not really. It would be the same as the Loki/Tony one. But that’s really more a complaint about how people write Loki than anything else. And that’s just my opinion! I don’t comment on people’s fics just to tell them they suck at writing Loki or anything. Everyone is allowed their own interpretation -- I’m sure I’ve written something in a way people didn’t like. In fact, I *know* I have bc they actually did comment. If I don’t like it, I hit that back button and find something else to read. Easy peasy.
Thanks for asking!
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