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If Spencer is Spider-Man, do you have any ideas on who in the Smosh crew would be certain Marvel heroes?
okay SO. i have been thinking ab this a little bit, bc i would like to expand the spidey au universe to other heroes. BUT im not gonna talk ab what im gonna do with the spidey au (spoilers lads <3). instead im gonna talk ab vibes. who do i think these people could be hypothetically! there's like one spoiler in here but otherwise none of this has anything to do with the canon for my spidey-spencer-verse.
also i wanna say before i get into this - DISCLAIMER: idk jack shit ab comics and i don't keep up with mcu anymore so. we're flying blind baby! i am making shit up as i go!
amanda: @blandview and i talked ab this and i think we came to a few conclusions: either she'd be black widow yelena OR she'd be an anti-hero of some kind. think elektra, think black cat... yeah she's got options.
angela: okay blandview also suggested this one: kate bishop hawkeye. we are taking no criticisms at this time.
anthony: god...... i could go so many directions but my heart longs to make him a villain/anti-hero. he's so morally gray-coded imo. magneto perhaps. other options are loki and wolverine.
arasha: there's so many options here too but i kind of like miss america for her i think!!
chanse: i mean he's miles morales. spencer is peter parker and he is miles morales end of sentence. BUT if i had to pick a non-spidey option, probably wiccan. i wanna give him magic powers so sue me!! oh or maybe iron lad. those are my faves for him
courtney: SO captain marvel coded for many many reasons. like i don't even think i need to explain this one tbh
damien: okay im thinking of making him part of the hero verse in the spidey fic so i am seriously considering this one... on the one hand like. cyclops. he is so classic x-men to me. daredevil could be fun and sexy for him. oh OR the hulk bc he's bruce banner-coded.
ian: so ive got some ops here: to match anthony. professor x. obviously. OR ant-man. do you see my vision. he looks like that.
jackie: scarlet witch was my first thought! mostly bc i could see her tearing apart the universe for love tbh (i did not watch wandavision but that trope sticks with me)
keith: does keith even want to be part of this. no probably not. maybe gambit or star-lord?? i literally cannot picture him doing this non-reluctantly and that's clouding my vision i think DKNGKNGK
kimmy: specifically jane forester thor perhaps. dazzler or jubilee could be fun for her too!!
noah: out of Everyone, noah is voted most likely to be deadpool imo. i could also see him as quicksilver bc little shit (affectionate)
shayne: i mean. thats captain america. look at him. once again i am done speaking thats it.
tommy: god... tommy is the toughest one. he's so normie in a hero world to me. like 'same shit as always' going to work while everyone out there being insane. angel?? he's also kinda x-men coded to me. otherwise....... winter soldier? i'll be real i got Nothin for that one chief.
anyway hope this was not too much of a disaster love ya bye xxx
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#wanda maximoff#kurt wagner#kurt x wanda#nightcrawler#scarlet witch#oc#oc children#same verse as scarlet witch and quicksilver as x-men#talia josephine wagner#tj wagner#nocturne
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So let’s talk about the newest episode of WandVision there is of course a spoiler warning from this point on
First let’s talk about theories disproved
So the town is made up of the citizens of westview( as far as we know ) the fact the several citizens actors such as the milkman, mailman , and “norm” were shields of agents in previous movies is a conciedence
It’s looking like Anges is a regular citizen not Agatha Harkness, who in the comics was one of the original witches of Salem, a mentor of scarlet witch who was eventually killed by her when she went crazy and almost destroyed the multiverse, but as she was not one the citizens who was identified there is still a chance but we’ll have to wait and see
Okay so let’s talk about what still up in the air theory wise and what we do know thus far
Let’s talk about Mephisto
i still believe that this is how Marvel is choosing to introduce him since he plays an important part in wandas story arch in the comics ( for those who don’t know Wanda creates the twins using a bit of his power/soul and he arranges for them to be stolen by his minion Master pandemonium who uses them as Arms to try and regain Mephisto’s stolen power ( yes you read that right the 80s were wild)
I still believe that he is the one orchestrating everything behind the scenes but I have a new theory on who he is or at least one I have seen but I’m sure is out there cause let’s be honest I’m not that creative lol
I think during the aftermath of the snap Mephisto took advantage of the chaos to take the identity of Hayward the new leader of SWORD
Think about he could’ve seen that there was a chance to take power in the upcoming new agency and knowing marvel they might pull an ego, he might’ve had a had in hand in Maria’s death to make sure that he got control of SWORD and to have Monica have a personal investment in this fight
If we go with this theory that explains why he seems to have vendetta to make out Wanda as the villain and dangerous and why we didn’t see the “ footage “ of Wanda stealing visions body my guess is he is trying to alienate wanda from everyone else so she’ll have no where to turn
The reason I think this isn’t entirely wanda is because while in the comics Wanda is one of the most powerful mutants in the entire multi-verse thus far in the mcu she hasn’t shown that level of power and while I would LOVE if they gave Wanda the power and recognition she deserves I don’t think that’s going to happen given The writers treatment Of the marvel women so far and if given the chance they will make the all powerful villain who manipulating the poor defenseless female who couldn’t help but fall for his evil schemes * cue southern lady hand to forehead swoon*(oh I’m going to piss off some fanboys with that one lol) but really think about it Hollywood as a whole doesn’t like bestowing the mantle of most powerful on women or POC especially in action movies which , whether or not you want to admit it , as a genre is engineered to please cisgender straight white men but that’s a whole other debate and I’m already going off enough tangents as is
I don’t think that it was wanda who left the boundary or if it was I don’t think it was entirely of her own volition I think it was a tactic to further villify Wanda in the eyes of SWORD and cementing the distrust of her by them so Hayward can weaponize SWORD against Wanda and Vision
Expanding on that based on what We’ve seen so far from the eps and the previews it’s going to end up being a battle between SWORD/ Mesphisto who is manipulating everything and everyone to make it seem like it’s Wanda controling the town against Wanda and Vision, with the help of Darcy, agent Jimmy Woo, and Monica after they begin to realize what’s happening
Moving on to Wandas role
So I agree with Visions assement that while Wanda Wasn’t initially consciously aware of what was going on she “ woke up “ at some point is now actively manipulating her surroundings and while she doesn’t want to directly hurt anyone as evident by her protecting Monica while sending her flying through walls and the barrier which could’ve killed her but should’ve at least broken a several bones but she came out with out a scratch
We can see that she knows what she’s doing is wrong but the looks of guilt when confronted with what she is doing she is trying to make sure the citizens are living as normal as possible as seen when she mentions making sure they mow their lawns and make it to their dentist appts and she thinks by controling them she’s making it easier on them but she knows it’s wrong like for example when billy and tommy ask her to bring sparky back to life the look on her face when she tells them there are certain things you can’t mess with and Vision walking up right as she says that I’m guessing within the next couple of episodes she admit to herself that what is happening is wrong
The Twins
So far in the series we see that Billy and Tommy at least posses some of their mother’s power as seen as they can age up seemingly by will power
In the comics billy becomes Wiccan , who takes after his mother’s powers and tommy is speed who inherited his uncles super speed but we have yet to see if these powers will transfer into the show
Side note if they try and change wiccans or speeds sexualities which in the comics wiccan was canonically gay and in a long term relationship hulking, who he eventually married , and Speed who was bisexual and in a relationship with prodigy I will riot
I’m guessing that mephisto is going to take the twins leading to Wanda joining dr strange in his show traveling the multi-verse in trying to find them or some version of them since we can only assume that’s how they are introducing the introducing mutants to the mcu
Speaking of introducing mutants to the MCU
So at the very end of the episode they get a surprise visitor- quicksilver (which several ppl saw coming ) we see that the X-mans Quicksilver arrive at the door
While I am glad that they are reintroducing Quicksilver as his early death was my biggest problem with age of ultron, we will have to wait and see how this pans out in regards to the series as a whole
When we hear the knock we are being lead to assume same as vision that it is another diversion by Wanda which we’ve seen her do several times at this point she seems as confused as he is so I don’t think he’s appeared by her powers proven by the fact when he introduces himself as her brother she’s visibly thrown and understandably confused before hugging him
My guess is that Mephisto( who in the comics also has the power to manipulate reality tho not on the scale that scarlet witch does which is why he needs her) brought him in to distract Wanda and Vision from discovering the truth
Now we can only assume that because of his appearance that other X-men and ppl from that universe will make an appearance in the mcu but to what extent we can’t be sure yet it will largely depend on what actors agree to resign on to their contracts to continue playing their characters so we can assume that Wolverine will not be making an appearance as Hugh jackman has previously stated that he will not be reprising the role but with everyone else’s we will have to wait and see
Let me know what you guys think what you agree or disagree with, further theories etc
EDIT: I apologize it’s been almost a decade since I’ve read the series of comics feature the storyline that WandaVision were based off it was pointed to me by @Hapllucigenia123 that there were a few inaccuracies in my post
the guy with the baby arms was master pandemonium who while he was working under the direction of Mephisto is not him
the twins were made purely out of fractions of Mephistos soul in the comics and he arranged them for them to be kidnapped in order to regain the power he had lost
This doesn’t change my theories much since I don’t believe they are going to have master pandemonium appear in the series because he was a middle man and the writers are going to probably have a bigger villain name to help draw in more views.( also don’t think theyre going to have anyone use the twins as arms cause I don’t see it being taken seriously in this day and age but imagine the memes if they did lol but I will go back and fix the information when I can thank you again @hapllucigenia123 who can also be found in the comments if the tags don’t work
#wandavision#wanda#vision#quicksilver#monica rambeau#marvel#women of marvel#ms marvel#marvel theories#Wiccan#speed#mcu#marvel wanda#scarlet witch#spitballing#marvel vision#marvel comics#mephisto#marvel Mephisto#marvel wandavision#avengers#young avengers#X-men#X-men quicksilver#age of ultron#avengers endgame#avengers infinity war
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This is everything about WandaVision up to Episode 5, with most of it concentrating on Episode 5. I have seen Episode 6 at this point, but I will respect the one week spoilers rule that is part of Nerd Culture.
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First of all, some basics about this series. This is an homage to different American sitcoms. Why American sitcoms when the main character is Sokovian? No one knows.
In the comic books, Wanda Maximoff is a mutant, not a science experiment like in the MCU. She and Pietro are the twin children of a Mutant named Magneto and a human named Magda (who is sometimes a Romini, and originally from Transia). Magneto is referred to as an Omega level mutant. Wanda is born with mutations, able to control Hex Powers, which is whatever the comic book writer needed to move the plot along. Sometimes her original powers have to do with probability, but like, 30 years ago, they started calling it chaos magic, and then she had extra reception to magical powers, and basically, it’s all very vague and ill-defined. She’s like the only one immune to Phoenix powers, and that’s a huge deal. She is not considered an Omega Level Mutant because she does not have completely mastery over her powers, not because she isn’t powerful enough. In the comic book series House of M, she is powerful enough to rewrite the entire universe, that was retconned in The Children’s Crusade, but then her powers are called Mutant Magic in A vs X and she’s got cosmic chaos magic. She’s supposed to serve The High Evolutionary at this point, which has made her more powerful. In the MCU, she was genetically altered by the Mind Stone, one of the six Infinity Stones. So when Wanda, AKA The Scarlet Witch, is in a story you can expect it to be about ridiculous amounts of power.
The assumption that you can make pretty quickly in the series is that Wanda Maximoff is in charge of this alternate reality, and quite possibly created it. Knowing what we know about Wanda, we assume it’s because she broke after the death of Vision and couldn’t deal with that death after the death of her parents (because of the Sokovian civil war) and Pietro, her twin brother, who was killed by Ultron. It’s stated pretty early on that Wanda could have defeated Thanos by herself (this is most likely true, one time in the comic books she decided to remove every mutant power in the known universe and she did for a couple of years. Is she more powerful than Jean Gray? Sit down with some nerds and listen to them argue, because that call will never be settled in a peaceful manner). Wanda has brought back Vision (who was killed by Thanos before he made his wish on the Stones, making him dead dead instead of mostly dead like half of the population of the universe) and in the MCU, this makes almost sense as her powers were given to her by the Mind Stone which brought Vision to life in the first place, with some interference from Tony Stark (Iron Man). In the first couple of episodes, they bring in Billy and Tommy (Speed and Wiccan) and the twins make themselves grow up pretty quickly.
Other characters that come in and play a part are Monica Rambeau (from the Marvel Comic Book Universe and the movie Captain Marvel, who is also the future Captain Marvel), Darcy Lewis (MCU character last seen hanging out with Thor), and Jimmy Woo (another MCU character, an FBI agent in charge of Scott Lang’s house arrest from Ant-Man and the Wasp).
Let’s also talk about some background about where Disney plans to go in the next 5 years. First of all, they have already acquired rights to do an X-Men series. If you have DisneyPlus (which you do unless you’re pirating this series), you know that the X-Men movies have mostly been added to the Marvel Channel rather quietly and unobtrusively. Also, there are rumors that all three movie Spidermen have signed on to the next Spider-Man movie (Toby McGuire, James Garfield, and Tom Holland). Also also, Disney has made a statement that Deadpool will be in the universe pretty soon. So we know that the endgame for Disney is a combination of all of the Marvel Comic book universe.
Things that I have noticed that are fun about this series: all of the commercials are nerd shout outs. The commercials all have something to do with time, with two being blatantly about clocks or innovation. The commercials for the most part have the same two actors in it (are they SWORD agents?). The first is a Stark toaster, which is weird, but okay, and it is the first time we see color (red, maybe an Iron Man shout out?) used in the series. The second is the Strucker watch, a blatant time reference, and Strucker if you recall from the movies is that dude who was experimenting on Wanda and Pietro when they were in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. In the comic books he’s Wolfgang von Strucker, or Baron Strucker, a former Nazi officer and agent of Hydra, and he never ages, and he shows up to try and do a genocide in the books all the time. The third commercial is about taking a break? HydraSoak bath powder. We all get the willies anytime Hydra is mentioned, so relaxing with Hydra is something we don’t want to do. This is also the first time that I think maybe this isn’t all Wanda? Also, this isn’t time appropriate (and this might be an influence from my real world job, and not some intentional message from Marvel) but mixed-race kids on a commercial in the 70s? That would have never happened. Are things starting to unravel, because this would have been super weird at that time and Marvel has been strict about time appropriateness so far, even so far as including gender roles. The last commercial is Lagos, the paper towel commercial. Paper towels are about cleaning up, right? Because these folks in the commercial spill everything. Also, we see the first incident of gender roles not being respected in WandaVision, because we see a dude wipe up his own spill. Anyway, Lagos is that Nigerian city where Wanda killed a bunch of people, including the King of Wakanda, on accident in Captain America: Civil War.
So in episode 2, SWORD is teased with the little logo on the beekeeper’s outfit at the end of the episode when he comes out of the sewer. The group outside Westview is verified to be SWORD in episode 4. Let’s talk about them a bit. These dudes in the comic books were all about space and going into space and doing space things, but then Thanos does a snappy thing. After the snappy thing (and this series is set 5 years after the Snap) they start doing nanotech and AI. In the comics Maria Rambeau is in charge, and after she dies, dude named Tyler Hayward takes over. Watch Tyler Hayward. I personally do not think he is actually Tyler Hayward, and if someone is acting and looking like someone else, we know which villain has probably just inserted himself into the show (if you’ve been watching the interviews, Tom Hiddleston shows up as a call-in fan of the show and demands to know why he didn’t have a series because he’s been dead a couple of times and Vision is stealing his Schtick). I don’t know that for sure, it could be sloppy writing? Maybe they ran out of character archetypes?
At the end of episode 5, this is when the next five years of the MCU comes into play. Wanda is missing her twin, probably because of her sons, and the doorbell rings. Standing there is Pietro Maximoff. Now the crazy part of this is that he is the wrong Pietro Maximoff (the better one, not the one that has been in the MCU movies, the X-Man Quicksilver). He’s standing there and does the weird Uncle Jesse thing from Full House, (which, if you’re paying attention to the real world, Wanda Maximoff is played by the younger sister of the Olsen twins who played Michelle on Full House in the 80s), but Wanda recognizes that he is the wrong Pietro. Darcy, who is watching the broadcast from outside the Hex, states that Wanda has recast Pietro. But has she? This woman is incredibly powerful, why would she bring back the wrong Pietro? What if she is not in charge? Wanda is really freaked out by this, and that is when I realized I needed to write everything down.
Here are my lingering questions: We have all seen Into The Spiderverse a dozen or so times. Is this how Disney is going to handle the Multi-Verse? Is Pietro the wrong Pietro because of Miles Morales and his rag-tag group of Spidermen? Does this mean that Nicholas Cage is going to be in the MCU? Is Wanda as in charge as we think she is? Can we expect to see Magneto (Wanda’s and Pietro’s dad in the comics) show up to either support his children in the Hex or fight on the side of SWORD? Maybe Professor X will come and get Wanda, Pietro, Timmy, and Billy? Will we finally see if Jean Gray is more powerful than Scarlet Witch (she’s not). Is Hayward a problem of inconsistent writing or is he Loki? Is a multi-verse a way to address Chadwick Bosemen’s death for a proper replacement of Black Panther? Hurry up and watch Episode 6 so we can talk about this stuff!
#WandaVision#WandaMaximoff#Vision#Wiccan#Speed#quicksilver#marvel#CaptainMarvel#MonicaRambeau#DarcyLewis#JimmyWoo#MCU#Marvel Comic Books#Snap
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Can you talk about the whitewashing controversy? I think it's a shame, but some people are acting like the people looking forward to WandaVision killed their dog lol.
They were originally white from 1964 until 1978/1979 where the Magneto connection was retconned in. Then from the late 1970s to 2014 their boilerplate backstory was that they were children of Erik/Max/Magnus/Magneto of 12 names (obv German/Jewish) and Magda Eisenhardt (usually Polska Sinti), and raised by Balkan (specifically fictional country Transia) Roma Django and Marya Maximoff with no discernible Jewish influences.
In 2014, during the height of Disney-Fox corporate childishness, it was once more retconned that Django and Marya were their birth parents, thus making them full Romani still with no discernible Jewish influences which is their current status quo.
It’s a messy situation stemming from their whiteness being carried over from the era where they were, in fact, generically white Europeans. It wasn’t until the late 1990s that George Perez revamped her design to give her the ample curls and “Transian” superhero costume, perhaps inspired by the recent release of The Hunchback of Notre Dame. The Transian costume didn’t last, though the hoop earrings have been known to reappear ever so often. Notice, of course, how they were still colored as white people.
Some people frequently point to this era for proof that Wanda has historical pre-2010s instances of being drawn with darker skin after all — well, no, that’s just the palette they used for white characters at the time.
That one Avengers vs X-Men: Infinite issue definitely looked promising at a glance, until you realize it was the lighting all along and the colorist made no effort to make her palette distinct from Tony’s and Hope’s.
Same goes for Olivier Coipel art. Same even goes for the gorgeous Daniel Acuna panels where she’s famously known for not looking pasty white, in the context of lighting and how every other (definitely white, not counting fanon and headcanon) character gets drawn and colored.
It really wasn’t until the era of modern Representation Matters (specifically those All New All Different 2015/2016 halcyon days) and a couple of conscientious artists like Kevin Wada decided to take a serious look at that Romani backstory, and present her as how she should really look. And that redesign was amazing. You can go into my archives and see 2015/2016 me fangirling over how 🔥🔥🔥 it was.
Unfortunately, this too did not last. The outfit is still (mostly) in use from artist to artist, but the darker skin and the distinct Roma features- not so much.
*And, before you get on my case about colorism, which has been an issue for Sunspot and Storm, that argument is less compelling here when Wanda is literally white in her initial appearance.
The whiteness is still very much entrenched in the Scarlet Witch brand. You can see this in all of her merchandise and every pre-MCU adaptation she’s ever had. Unlike Mickey Rooney’s Breakfast At Tiffany’s role or Emma Stone pretending to look like her last name could be Ng, none of these adaptations are perceived as embarrassing or dated transgressions. They are all Wanda, for better or for worse. (Update: In an anonymous ask I recently received, someone likened the 70s Romani inclusion and the 90s Perez and Busiek interpretation of her “Romani roots” to a bad case of cultural appropriation. I’m inclined to agree. They really did just retrofit a white character into culturally appropriating a real group of people so that they could give her that exotique “g*psy witch” aesthetic.)
Some people will counter with: Well, just because she’s been whitewashed before doesn’t mean it’s okay for her to be whitewashed now. And that all of this is a result of systematic racism and is gross and everyone who supports it is part of the problem.
Well, sure, but all those versions are part of the tapestry that make up her character. You can take a revisionist’s paintbrush to try and make that tapestry align more with your ideals, but at that point she becomes more your own personalized creation than what she actually is. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with stubbornly supporting a personalized, idealized take on a character, but all of that other content isn’t suddenly going to lose its fan following and vanish from the mainstream.
And the specifics of how the Romani elements were included in her backstory kind of actually were shadowed by this blissfully ignorant 1970s American kind of racism. The “g*psy witch” trope most of all. And the kind of ignorance that permeates in presenting that sort of character as levitating criss-crossed over her bed while reading tarot cards surrounded by candles all mystic-like.
If you can recall any of this or perhaps the one George Perez era panel where she’s screaming to Pietro about how “my father was a kind g*psy man named Django,” or how she’s casually written into referring to herself and her family as that slur over and over again, you can recall that 99% of Marvel Writers’ other sparse attempts at reminding audiences that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are, indeed, Roma made them out to be blindly romanticized caricatures that I suppose creatives behind adaptations would prefer not to tackle.
I don’t have a solution for the people who are hurt by this, and for the people who expect and demand for Wanda to become a vehicle for authentic Roma storytelling— something she’s never really been before, aside from a few shaky glimpses in the Robinson run. It’s not my place to tell them what to do or think, and I definitely wouldn’t tell them to stop being upset.
Different people feel strongly about different things. I don’t expect I’ll be seeing Mulan in theaters due to its pandering to China’s very problematic government with their literal concentration camps, but I don’t expect everyone to have the same feelings as I do, or hold it against them if they don’t. It’s a movie. I’m personally not comfortable supporting it, but who made me the God of Consumer Morality?
That’s the thing with MCU Wanda and with WandaVision or every other verse or artwork where Wanda is Still White. A mass snub of it isn’t happening with or without my help. If you’re excited for it, stay excited for it (with an understanding of why some may be upset)! If the thought of it breaks you out into hives, I’m very sorry to hear that (and I’m also impressed you got this far), hope you can focus on the things you enjoy instead.
#answered#anonymous#scarlet witch#wanda maximoff#wandavision#this calls again for proper caps and punctuation y'all#yeah this one's from my drafts since i wasn't even sure if i should touch it again#but here i stand let's go
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Justicar Verse au (part 3)
N/A: As I mentioned before. I want to make this in 5 parts IF possible. I want to move the plot further and see if I can do this in 5 pieces. I want to show more of this world and its character.
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Brian wears the Justicar uniform and is not a demotion on his part as the Justicar uniform and Captain Britain are almost similar to the point of being a meme-maybe, it is a meme. Brian recalls how Steve Rogers not so subtle mentions this little and even suggests changes to Brian´s uniforms and is politely rejected as Brian points out ''Captain Britain exists way before Captain US" and even points out how Captain Brazil doesn´t seem to even want to wear a uniform and is doing better than the rest- and right now, all Brian can do is put his poker face and march on this area.
"Halt, who are you?" the voice of a fellow Justicar only makes Brian clench his fist hard enough to the point is getting white now. The man comes closer and asks for identification. Brian hands the ID and the man reads the paper and snaps his eyes to Brian´s face. "Something is not right here...I´ll ask you to leave"
Brian sighs and only nods saying. "And I´ll have to ask sorry for this" and he punches the Justicar knocking him out- thankfully of his medical background is easy to testify the man is not in real harm and this makes Brian sigh in relief- and Brian continues to walk around the area. "I´m sorry" he speaks one last time to the man. "But my sister is hiding something and I´m Captain Britain and I´m here to protect everyone...not a few" and with this, the man looks to the orange place.
And only closes his eyes as he witnesses the discrepancy in her sister´s story. Brian took a photo from his pocket and read the description. "a nice place for all the magical creatures to stay while Justicars protect them" and Brian looks to the cruel reality. "Oh my God..."
"Yeah...Oh My God" a feminine voice speaks and Brian only had time to see a blonde woman lifting her arms and shooting an energy attack knocking Brian out. "I can´t believe it works...Brian, you´re a fool" Meggan Puceanu states and takes his body without breaking a sweat. As she flies away from the now devastated camp- not wanting to remember bad memories of this place nor want to give leads of her whereabouts, Meggan cast the spell but with one problem- and Meggan has to bite her lips for a moment.
"Damn...how Wanda uses that spell?" and finally it comes to her mind. "Oh right. Do not reveal the truth...let them still think the prisoners are still on death row" and now that the prison looks full again with prisoners waiting for death. Meggan can leave.
The Justicar that was knocked down wakes up and snaps his eyes open and using his telekinesis summon the telephone to his hand. "This is Justicar 444. We have a problem...Captain Brittain was here" and the person on the other side give an order. "no, all the prisoners are still on the place...understood. Time to kill them...and Captain Britain? I see...Understood, All glory for Justicar and our leader"
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Justicar Bull is not strange to mix work with pleasure- there´s a rumor she tried to slept with Captain Britain and no one ever denies this claim- but, even so, Justicar Bull knows the difference in an innocent flirt and whatever Kurt Cadbury does when Kitty Pryde is around. Again, what one does in their private life is entirely on them and Justicar Bull knows people love a man or woman in uniform, but, again...it has limits that no one should cross.
Justicar Bull crosses her arms and even though she´s using her helmet is possible to feel her cold stare. Kurt Cadbury finishes his task- talking with the survivors and getting leads about U Go Girl and what will happen to the cure- and now walks bravely to his boss. "Justicar Bull"
"Cadbury...we got another video of you doing sexual role play with that cute woman" Justicar Bull didn´t let him speak "Look, I get it. She´s cute and who can say no to a man in uniform...but this is getting ridiculous. You can´t go around accusing anyone to be Shadowcat" and now her tone is tired. "I know you want to catch her ...but you´re not helping the cause by being so obvious"
Kurt Cadbury. "I´m not ...wait, people think me and Kitty are a thing?" and Justicar Bull shows her phone showing how social media show the famous bachelor is head over feels for the normal human, Kitty Pryde.
"Wait...am I a meme?!"
"Yes"
Human? You´re that good...or am I that bad?
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Prof Charles Xavier can walk- there´s an old rumor going around that Magneto did cripple him and how convenient this rumor did spread when Magneto tried to join the politic life of Justicar- and offers his smile that shines as much his bald hair. Magneto is present as well and can play the game as his mouth twists into a smile mimicking Prof X nicely.
"It seems we´re here again, my old friend" Magneto´s tone is sharp but not impolite. "Still believe in your vision of humans and mutants co-existing?" Magneto asked in his dubious tone.
Prof X drops the smile. "Yes, and you´re still holding on old wounds, my old friend?" Xavier asked in a forlon tone full of pity and sadness for Magneto.
Elisabeth Braddock enters in the room-asking permission as any proper British lady should- and has great news for them. "New Mutants were located in the asteroid M and we have proof those mutants are Omega level or better saying" Betsy looks impressed for a moment as she took her time to speak. "above omega level"
And she bows her head in respect as the two men nod at her information and let her leave as now the two powerful mutants on this planet have to talk what´s the best course to follow here. In the end, it was agreed they must leave as soon as it is possible and no one needs to know about mutants above omega level.
No one notices Betsy Braddock smiling as she gives messages to her Justicar. "You know what to do next"
And Wanda Maximoff was drinking her tea when the TV announces the explosion of the ship where Magneto and Prof X were. Scarlet Witch has no feelings for her abusive father, while, Wanda is not entirely happy with his death. "If he´s truly dead...who will be the next ruler?" and Quicksilver enters in her house for once is too late to give a piece of information to his twin.
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Kitty Pryde watches the news with a serious look on her face. Yana is on her side-still looking adorable and evil at the same time and Kitty wonders how powerful and scary an adult Yana would be- analyzing the situation. "The real boss is moving fast...no more Magneto or Prof X...means this person has total control over everything...meaning...every mutant or human must play her game or else..." Yana has a macabre tone and is fitting for such a revelation. No pretense of being a cutesy girl now.
"And this only means one thing..." Kitty trails off as her mind is already thinking in many scenarios and possibilities. Yet, she didn't conclude her sentence as someone else does.
"We know who is behind this..." Gloriana says to the tied up Brian Braddock who is without his powers thanks to Meggan have taken his medallion. The man´s face scream resignation as he completes for Meggan.
"My sister, Elisabeth Braddock is behind this..."
"Yes...we know this for years now...and now, you finally know too"
#justicar verse au#kurt cadbury#kurtty#Elisabeth is the bad guy#kitty pryde#meggan puceanu#Illyana Rasputin#No more Magneto and Prof X#There´re no mutants there just to add insult to the injury#Betsy knows how their egos are or were#Bull is Courtney and yes she would totally try to sleep with Kitty if she could#and yes she did slept with Brian#I think Betsy is not happy as I view her with a bro-con here
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Are you looking forward to post infinity war marvel movies or are you nervous because they'll likely be introducing new characters for an eventual huge crossover again As I wrote this I realized they could possibly do X-Men characters (I don't know the marvel canon so I have no idea who they would decide to introduce) Sorry to bombard you with questions but I like your answers
So Fox originally owned the X Men and we weren’t going to ever see an X-Men Avengers crossover because X-Men’s movie rights were owned by a different company.
But because Disney bought their rights, and Marvel’s all in the same hands now, except for Spider-Man, which is somewhat split up since Sony still owns part of Spider-Man, they now can have X-Men be a part of their cinematic universe.
Now technically, the x-men kind of already are a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe because of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, but they weren’t allowed to be called mutants.
But I think that after Infinity War, well...
I don’t know.
I’d love to see Deadpool in a Disney-Marvel movie trying his best to be family friendly?
But I also think Deadpool is kind of special because he doesn’t have to conform to Disney’s standards and family friendly approach to business.
And I think that the X-Men...well they have more potential to be serious and darker and grittier than anything Disney comes up with.
Metaphor for civil rights for black people, then LGBT people, could be really nice if Disney had the balls to branch away from “Family Friendly” or at least, not be such a pussy about touching hard hitting social issues.
And with Black Panther, I can sort of see the future of Marvel as maybe being gutsier, and getting more political.
But overall, well.
I know everyone was super hyped about the Avengers, and all of them are the most well-known Marvel heroes.
So it’s sort of a good thing that we kind of got them out of the way, and they made a lot of money.
And the reason why it’s good is because now we can get more unique stories.
Because Disney/Marvel can take a chance with different stories, and they have enough money and reputation to do so.
I’ve stated before that playing with the super hero genre wouldn’t have been possible, or as plausible, without the huge success of Iron Man and the Avengers.
Now we’ve established that super heroes can be a huge market.
And now we can start to see more stories, more diverse stories, I’m hoping.
So even though people will miss Iron-Man, I don’t know, Tom Holland is so young.
Maybe we’ll see him collaborating with the franchise more after the Spider-Man series is over, maybe he’ll be an X-Men member.
Maybe we’ll see more movies like the Spider Verse movie, which looks great and really uniquely designed.
Maybe we’ll see more movies like Venom, trying to subvert the genre.
Or hey, maybe super heroes as a market will die down and we’ll get more reserved stuff like...um, Squirrel Girl.
I don’t know, maybe DC will get its shit together and ride out the end of the super hero era.
All I know is that me, well...
I enjoyed Infinity War, but....
it was no Thor Ragnarok or Black Panther.
I prefer movies that either make me think, laugh, or ponder the inevitability of the demise of the human race.
I don’t need big flashy “let’s pretend to kill everyone” plots or big crossover things or “gotta make thor fight iron man, gotta test the shield against mjolnir, gotta do this” checklisting to be happy.
I really just like to be entertained, and I was never into marvel movies because i cared about iron man, specifically, or cap specifically.
I enjoyed them because as individual movies, they stood up as good story telling.
So going forward, I just want to continue to see some creative spark and genuine joy ingrained into every frame of whatever movie they make.
I hope they make a Squirrel Girl.
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sounding, i have a question. i love your posts about magneto but my familiarity with the x-men is like... only from the movies. do you have any comic recommendations? there are So Many Comics, im hesitant to just pick something
OH MY GOD I CANNOT BELIEVE MY MAGNETO SHITPOSTS MADE SOMEONE WANT TO READ COMICS
Okay, the first thing you need to know about mainstream comics is that most of them are bad. Like 90% of them suck, and the comics publishing model is awful to actively keep up with. Nonetheless….there’s a good number of elements I find extremely compelling…..like Magneto!
I have not actually read full runs of….most comics, so grain of salt with all my recs.
But anyway, my favorite comics Magneto characterization is probably Chris Claremont’s Uncanny X-Men and New Mutants runs. Stan Lee created Mags, but Claremont was the one to come up with his backstory and make him a more nuanced character than the usual take-over-the-world supervillain. Uncanny X-Men 199 is about Magneto taking Kitty Pryde to a Holocaust memorial and submitting to arrest, and 200 is the story of the subsequent trial as Magneto contends with his crimes and Kitty contemplates growing up in a world with such bigotry. It’s extremely good and would be my number 1 choice for an X-Men story to be made into a movie, but it will never happen because it is contemplative and low on explosions (there’s an attack from psychic N*zi twins in there, but you know, comics.) New Mutants #35 picks up after the trial and has Mags serve as the headmaster of the Xavier Institute and mentor to the New Mutants team. You get to see him lecture teenagers about curfew and tell Rachel and Illyana that he gets the urge to just kill people, he really does, but THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO. It’s all very 80′s and has Claremont’s signature stiff-ass dialogue, but it’s fantastic.
I also think that House of M and related comics are very important, even if I disagree significantly with a lot of its aspects. The core House of M story is a limited run where his daughter, Wanda Maximoff aka the Scarlet Witch has remade reality into one where Magneto is a semi-benevolent dictator who rules a world where mutants are in charge (see end notes for details on Maximoff-Lehnsherr family). House of M: Civil War is a minseries that details his rise to power and his relationship with that universe’s Charles Xavier. Young Avengers: The Children’s Crusade, is a fix-it for the fallout of House of M that centers on Billy and Tommy, Magneto’s grandsons, and has Mags as a supporting character. The 2015 Secret Wars House of M miniseries is a non-canon story of Pietro trying to take over. House of M as a whole is kind of frustrating both in the way Magneto’s ideals are portrayed and with the stuff they do with Wanda, but it’s very compelling as a story about intergenerational trauma and you should read it if you’re interested in Magneto.
Other than those, I’ve read some of Cullen Bunn’s Magneto solo that follows Mags as vigilante. Very dark, and I don’t love all that characterization either, but it’s worth a read. The most recent X-Men Blue has Magneto in a mentorship role for the time-displaced original X-Men, though I’ve only read a little bit of that run too.
Of stuff I haven’t read: I’ve been meaning to read the 2013 Uncanny X-Men run that follows Magneto, Cyclops, Emma Frost, and Magik as they recruit mutants to their radical cause because from what little I’ve seen that’s also a good Magneto, but idk. Chris Claremont did a limited run of Excalibur that features Charles and Magneto playing house together that’s supposed to be real gay. Age of Apocalypse allegedly has a long-haired Magneto leading mutants in the fight against their doom. Kieron Gillen wrote some stuff around 2012 about Magneto dealing with the wake of Cyclops’ bullshit?
Comics during the 90s were generally big on making Magneto totally evil, so skip those. Same with the Ultimate universe version, which is frankly pretty offensive.
Some important comics Magneto facts that are not canon in the movies that are useful to know:
Magneto was born Max Eisenhardt, in Poland. He has also used the names Erik Lehnsherr, Magnus, and a ton of others, though Magnus is probably the most common.
Mags has naturally white/silver hair due to his mutation, though it was dark until his adolescence and full awakening of his powers.
He is very smart and cultured and has a lot of formal education in science and physics.
His powers vary wildly according to story, but he can do a lot more than move metal with his powers.
He has been deaged and reaged and other bullshit a lot. It’s not stated how old he currently is, but it’s entirely likely he’s physiologically only about 40.
In the main comics universe, Magneto has four children. With Magda Maximoff, he had Anya, who died in childhood, and Wanda and Pietro, aka Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. With Susanna Dane, he had Lorna, aka Polaris. He didn’t know that Wanda, Pietro, or Lorna were his children until he met them again in adulthood. Mags also has grandchildren: Luna Maximoff, Pietro’s daughter, and Billy Kaplan and Tommy Shepard, aka Wiccan (?) and Speed, the soul reincarnations of Wanda’s children (it’s complicated). He has a very difficult and complicated history with all of them, but he cares about them a lot.
He has had a long-running on-again-off-again thing with Rogue. Unlike in the movies, she’s an adult so it’s not as weird, but……I still hate it.
Also, I don’t know if you read fanfiction, but….if you want good Magneto content, you might consider it. Most of it is based on the movies, and most of that is specifically the First Class-Days of Future Past alternate timeline though. At the very least, most fic writers who create stories about him actively like him, which is more than some comics writers.
My favorite Magneto characterization in fic is in The Building of the House and Tehillim, which is canon to the movies. IMO XMCU!Magneto should be written as very traumatized and have significant problems with daily functioning, and these fics give a really fantastic portrait of that trauma.
These are all AUs that in some cases hew pretty far from canon, but have characterization elements that I really like:
Limited Release, where Erik is a very intense and kind of crazy FBI agent
I guess I should say thanks or some shit, which has a fantastically douchey young Erik
Lessons ‘Verse, which show Erik as an incredibly difficult and high-maintenance lover (these fics are mostly smut but I REALLY like the characterization)
Synthesis, which gives a really sharp portrait of Erik’s politics
The end of the world (just not ours), which is kind of a college au that has a deliberately wildly diverging magneto characterization and is unfinished to boot, but…I’m really into it, idk
Anyway thanks for reading this giant-ass post, hit me up with more questions or if you wanna talk about Magneto
#long post#this is so long I'm sorry#I have so many magneto opinions#magneto was right#temporary x men tag#comics#xmen.txt#to the x men then! who do not die the old fashioned way
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Why else would a speedster have Superstrength, if not to carry her (older) siblings?
#marvel#ocs#oc children#nocturne#talia josephine wagner#tj wagner#kurt x wanda#same verse as scarlet witch and quicksilver as x men#x-men
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