#samcait isn’t real

[p-redux]

From Anon (I'm posting screencaps of the Ask instead of answering directly from my Inbox because I'm going go back and BLOCK the Anon. And I can't do that if I answer her directly from my Inbox)

*big long sigh* I’ve been here 8 years and have seen it all in this fandom. Initially, I got hate from SamCait shippers because I was the FIRST one to sink their SamCait ship and ruin their fantasy via my insider source info. They harassed, bullied, attacked me every day, all day for YEARS. Then some shippers became disgruntled ex-shippers, who still held out hate for me. Some of those disgruntled ex-shippers became Sam haters, and then new Outlander fans joined them, who also became Sam haters. All of those groups have had it out for me and continue to have it out for me. THEY will never believe anything I say, will never be satisfied with any explanation I give, nothing will ever be good enough. 

So, Anon, when you speak of “another blogger,” she’s just one more in a LONG line of people who have taken turns bashing me over the years. But I can’t give  any energy to that, because then I lose focus on my own stuff, my own blog. I used to debunk every lie posted about me, fight the good fight against bloggers attacking me. But I learned if I focused on that, it would never end. So, I try not to do that anymore. 

Because I’ve been here for so long, some of the old timers are still here, they KNOW I had sources, many more than I have now, but I DO still have sources, and I DO still have people approach me with info. Your line about me making stories up is word for word what every hater I’ve ever had has said. I don’t make anything up, Anon. I post INFO that I can verify from others. People who have been here long enough still follow me and know they can trust when I say a source is real, that it is...because I have a PROVEN TRACK RECORD. Just do a Search of my past info. It’s irrefutable. I wouldn’t still have the thousands of followers I have if I’d been “making up stories” for 8 years. If that were the case, people would have stopped following me years ago. They stick around because more often than not, I’ve come through with the goods. Simple as that. 

So, I’m still here for the people who know me and know they can trust me. People like you, and the mean girl group, and the disgruntled ex-shippers, and the remaining extreme shippers, I will never win with them, so why even bother trying? It’s a waste of time. 

When you call me out for saying I was working and couldn’t post my info about the restaurant, but I had time to answer your post. The answer is simple and obvious. It took me five minutes to answer your previous Anon Ask. It took me hours to compose my restaurant info post. Look at how long it is. I had to compile the screenshots from my source DM’s, I had to black out identifying info, I had to make sure it fit within Tumblr’s 10 pic limit, I had to make sure all my “t”s were crossed and all my “i”s were dotted because of haters, people like you, who dissect every word I write. I had to make sure my post was perfect before I posted and I couldn’t do that while I was working (I have the day off today btw, so I have a bit more time on my hands). THAT is why I didn’t post until the end of the day. If another blogger posted info prior to that, that’s not something I pay attention to. This isn’t a competition, at least not to me. 

So, Anon, if despite my LONG history of accurate insider info, fan info, info from all over the world, you don’t find me believable, then why would I waste my time trying to convince you? It’s obvious you DON’T WANT to believe me, just like Extreme Shippers DON’T WANT the truth. I have plenty of supporters who have SEEN my source info is accurate--I’m here for THEM. I can’t make any promises, but this will be the last Anon of this type I’m going to answer as long as I can. Send me anymore like these and you’ll automatically be blocked---this is obviously not the blog for you, so I’ll put you out of your misery, you won’t have to look at my blog again. My focus and energy will go to those who KNOW I post the truth, who KNOW I have sources, and who APPRECIATE what I do, and the time I take out of my, yes, VERY BUSY life, to still be here. I love you guys and I’m grateful for you more than I can express. That’s all, folks. 

[cmhoughton]

I had posted this using the app and it disappeared on me, so this is take two...

Diana’s post on LitForum https://thelitforum.com/showthread.php?pid=12038#pid12038

I wasn’t going to post about this, seeing how it is probably a moot point, but thought I would because it shows the sort of laissez-faire attitude Starz PR has toward the social media habits of their employees.

This hardly leads me to think they would control the stars’ private lives if they didn’t care about what they do online.

[cmhoughton]

Aside from the fact that I think it's creepy folks found out where Caitriona used to live, I think it very unlikely Sam is in Caitriona's old place, @contemplatingoutlander. What I think more likely is he is the same area, not actually in the same house or apartment.

I used to live in Philly in an older part of town and the row homes all looked alike, they all had the same sort of railings on the stoop. I've been through other older cities with the same sort of thing, even here in Richmond, there are parts of town where everyone pretty much has the same house.

I've seen enough films and TV shows set in modern day Scotland to know they probably have the same sort of housing too.

When I worked as a costumer at the theme park, the dancers and singers who were from out of town all lived in the same apartment complex because it was close to the park and that landlord had three-month leases available. So, those guys wouldn’t get apartment for a year when all they needed it for was for the summer.

If the houses or flats were let originally by the Studio, it could be they both got places near one another because they were an easy commuting distance to work. They probably also had the same real estate agent or apartment broker so they might have both been in the same complex or were in the same neighborhood. Probably something like that is the explanation, I wouldn’t read anything more into than that.

I don’t think Sam bought a house “outside Glasgow.” People are making really big assumptions based on his vague comments made in various interviews. I suspect he was being deliberately vague about where he lives because he gets stalked enough as it is. Best leave it as unconfirmed as to where he lives.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts anon!

I only know what I have read, like what Sam said in this Men’s Journal article:

Maybe someone knows more and can add to this.

Regardless, the place that the studio rented for Sam didn’t have the greatest kitchen as seen in this photo when Abbie was cooking in it in 2015.

So if Sam liked Cait’s kitchen and her flat, maybe he bought it or took over her lease when she moved or whatever the situation was. That could explain everything.

[fortruthseekers]

REFRESHER ON MY INSIDER SOURCES: BTW, this is Purv aka @p-redux. This is my original Tumblr blog I’ve revived to archive past source info.

In 2014, I first posted my insider source info. I didn’t have a Tumblr blog, so I posted everything on my old Twitter account, all the details the sources gave me then. The fandom, especially shippers, went into an uproar because my source info sunk the ship. The SamCait ship had barely started sailing and I sunk it before it had made it out into open sea. Shippers have never forgiven me for that. Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. 

Throughout the years, I’ve reiterated my source info, but summarized it because most people had already heard it, and I didn’t see a need to keep rehashing it. The more time past, the more it became clear Sam and Cait weren’t a couple, and that the info I had shared with the fandom AHEAD of time was true. Cait was seen with Tony a lot. And Sam was seen with different girlfriends or dates. But since I’m turning this account @fortruthseekers into an archive account, I’m going to post the original source DETAILS again, for newbies. This post is going to be LONG, very long, because I go into detail. Read it if you need a refresher on what I said previously about sources, or if you’ve never read the source details before. Click on Keep Reading to find the rest.

Okay, so about sources. REAL sources. I live in Los Angeles and used to be in the industry many years ago. As a result, I still know people in the industry. And just by living in L.A., you meet people who know celebs. In 2014, I got who I call “my original industry source” through a friend who knew I was watching Outlander. And she thought it would be cool for me to talk to this industry person who had Outlander connections. My friend put me in touch with her so we could talk about our common interest. Initially, me talking to the source was just to schmooze about insider info, I wasn’t planning to make it public or create a celebrity insider info account. But I was surprised about how much she knew. At the time many people, including myself, thought Sam and Cait were most likely a couple, when the source told me she knew for sure they weren’t, I was floored. Then after she told me all the details of her interactions with Sam, Cait, and some of the Outlander cast, and the fact that she was friends with one of Cait’s besties, I knew I’d hit a huge source of info. 

At first, the source didn’t want me to make the info public, she didn’t want to get in trouble, but she thought it was important that people knew the truth about whether or not Sam and Cait were a couple. She figured if they knew, then people wouldn’t get their hopes up and be disappointed when Sam and Cait became more famous, and would inevitably be seen with other people. As I said, that original industry source is good friends with one of Cait’s female best friends. And because she’s in the industry, she also had a connection to Sam through his talent agency. So, she had insider info on BOTH Cait and Sam. Jackpot.

Because I knew her full identity and knew I was talking to the real person on her real and blue check verified Twitter account, and my friend had introduced me to her, I could trust that her info was legit. She is also Instagram blue check verified and has made a name for herself in the industry. People would be shocked if they knew who she was. SHE is the one who told me 100% Sam and Cait were not dating and that 100% Sam is not gay.  At first, she didn’t want me to post things publicly, but I begged and she finally relented, as long I would swear I would keep her identity private and would leave out some identifying details. 

So, in 2014, I went public with all the details she told me. And through the years, EVERYTHING she told me turned out to be true. I didn’t have a Tumblr blog at the time, so all my source info was posted on my old Twitter account. I posted every detail of what she told me and I also posted some of her DMs with permission, and name blacked out. Unfortunately, all that is gone because I deleted my old Twitter account a long time ago. 

The main points were: Sam and Cait weren’t a couple and never have been. When I said to her that I knew actors were different than regular people, but that when I saw Sam and Cait talking about watching the wedding scene together, while drinking a bottle of wine, that there was no way they didn’t hook up at some point. She said she’s been around a lot of actors and said Sam and Cait are both natural flirts and very touchy-feely people, and she didn’t see anything out of of the ordinary in their interactions–she reminded me their behavior is the norm when promoting a show. 

She also said Sam isn’t gay per people she’s talked to who know him. She knew the director of Batman Live, the live show Sam starred in years ago. The director was a gay man, and when she asked him if Sam was gay, since he seemed too good to be true and was so good-looking, he said no. And he said he and other crew who were hoping Sam was gay were disappointed that he was straight. The director told her that the reason Sam didn’t seem to have much of a dating history, was because he had always been focused on his career and on working out. And that because he was traveling with the show, there wasn’t time for a committed relationship. Later, we found out that Sam had indeed been dating a woman named Katie Rebekah, but they broke up because she moved from London to Australia, and Sam started to tour with Batman Live. That’s the info I got in 2014. If Sam was gay, the gay director would have told my source and squeed about it.

This source used to work between New York and Los Angeles. She was in New York for one of her TV shows during the July 2014 premiere of Outlander and hung out with Cait and Cait’s bestie, as well as some of the other OL cast and crew. She also had some business meetings with Sam in NY. She confirmed Sam brought Amy Shiels as his “plus one” to the premiere and even skipped out on an unplanned event the cast was invited to because he “had a date.” When they saw him the next day and asked him how his date went, source said Sam replied “It was great!” Even though this source got info from Cait’s bestie…the bestie kept quiet about Cait and Tony, and simply said that Cait and Sam weren’t a couple….I found out about Tony from someone else...more on that later. 

This source did share some info about what Cait thought about Sam. She said that Cait cared about Sam as a costar and friend, and they got along very well.  But Cait said Sam was not her type, that Cait didn’t date actors, and that Cait referred to Sam as “a bro,” and that Cait was not into guys who spent so much time in the gym. She said Cait genuinely liked Sam as a person, but there was not more to it. And that Sam was just a big flirt, and that they were both trying to promote Outlander as much as possible because they knew it was their big break. 

This is also the source who told me that Cait’s friend, the one the source is friends with, didn’t particularly care for Sam. To be very clear: I don’t feel this way about Sam, Cait doesn’t feel this way about Sam, and my source doesn’t feel this way about Sam. In fact, my source said Sam “was lovely” to her and “a sweetheart.” But one of Cait’s besties, just ONE FRIEND–not plural, the friend said that she thought Sam “could be self-absorbed,” and “douchy.” ONE of Cait’s friends said this. No one else said this. And that was way back in 2014. I’m sure Sam has matured since then, as people tend to do as they get older. BTW Cait has a lot of close friends, some of which aren’t well known to fans. Reiterating: Cait doesn’t feel that way about Sam, the source didn’t feel this way about Sam, and I, Purv, don’t feel this way about Sam, nor have I said anything like that about Sam. 

Back to Sam being a natural flirt, remember, even Cait said “he could flirt with a lamppost.” Well, my source said that the times she saw Sam at business meetings, he was always very nice to her and would greet her with a big bear hug, tight enough that she could feel how hard his chest was. He would look down at her, right into her yes, hold her gaze, and smile big at her. And this was a woman he was not interested in romantically. He was just being friendly and sweet. Imagine how high the charm wattage is turned up for a woman he IS interested in. No wonder that Samshine has been hard to resist. This is also the source who said that Sam would always say goodbye to her by saying his now ubiquitous “Let’s get together for a wee dram when you’re in Scotland.” Of course, that “wee dram” never happened. I think that’s just Sam’s people pleasing qualities coming out, never wants to disappoint anyone. The source also said whenever he would text or e-mail her for business related stuff, he was always super enthusiastic and used a lot of exclamation points !!!!!!

Anyway, my original industry source “broke up” with me years ago because she didn’t want to chance anyone finding out who she was, as Outlander got bigger, and as she got bigger in the industry. I still sometimes look at her Twitter and IG all nostalgic, remembering when it all started...ah, memories...

My second major source was my Tony family source. My Tony source is someone from Glasgow who was friends with someone I’d known for awhile. My friend put me in contact with her. The Tony source approached me to tell me that she was shocked to find out a relative of hers (later found out it was her brother) had revealed “the lead actress from that new show Outlander is dating Tony McGill.” She was shocked because she and her family have known Tony and his family for years, all of them growing up in and around Glasgow. Her brother went to school with Tony and his brother, Joe. She then told me the whole backstory of Cait and Tony. She wanted me to keep the info to myself and she had no motivation or intention of making it public. But she finally agreed, after I gave my word that I would protect her identity and I have. 

What she shared with me in late 2014 is that her brother found out their friend, Tony was dating Caitriona Balfe. At the time she said they’d been dating for about 9-10 months, that’s why I always put the start of their relationship around March 2014. She was told that by December 2014, the relationship was “dead serious” between them and that Cait had spent Christmas 2014 in London with Tony and his dad. And then Tony had flown to Ireland with Cait to spend New Year’s Eve and New Year’s with her family and friends (we’ve all seen the pic and video on Donal Brophy’s IG). My source said that Cait and Tony had been friends for 9 years or so at the time (again, this was told to me in 2014) and had met years ago when Tony rented out a room to one of Cait’s friends. They hooked up briefly back then and then remained friends, until it turned romantic again around March 2014. The source said that she and her family knew Tony and his family from back in the day, and she told me what school Tony went to in Glasgow (something I haven’t and won’t make public). She said that Tony had moved from Glasgow years ago and had been living in London for awhile (again, this was told to me in 2014). Also, that he and his brother owned a bar/live music place in London, The Library in Islington (they later opened a second one, The Reading Room, which Cait posted from on IG) and a music production company. And that prior to that, Tony was the band manager for some Scottish bands, most notable, The Fratellis. She described Tony as “fun, clever and hysterically funny.” 

The Tony source came into the picture after I had my Twitter account up, where I was posting insider info given by my first source. I had already posted that Sam and Cait weren’t dating. This second source is the one that filled in the missing puzzle piece I didn’t know was missing and told me she knew WHO Cait was dating. I would have NEVER known the name Tony McGill associated with Cait if not for this source. He was on no one’s radar. And he wasn’t on social media. This source told me details only an insider would know. And I also had her full identity, so I knew she was legit as well. Then ‘lo and behold Tony started showing up places with Cait. There is NO way I would have known about Tony without this inside family source. No way. Of course after my source told me about him, I did look him up online and there was hardly any information about him. Never in a million years would I have linked Tony McGill with Cait on my own. And I mentioned Tony McGill way before he started showing up places with Cait. How could it be that I said sources told me Tony McGill is dating Cait, and then a man identified as Tony McGill is seen out and about with Cait? The only way I knew about Tony is because the source told me. 

Back in the day, when Cait and Tony weren’t yet living together yet, people wondered how they made their relationship work given the sometimes long distances? Well, when they first started dating around March 2014, Cait was filming Outlander Season 1, so Tony would go to Glasgow or Cait would go to London on weekends. Then when Season 1 wrapped and Cait went back to L.A. (where she had been living) in late Sept. 2014, Tony went to L.A. to visit her in October 2014 (both their birthdays are in October, Cait Oct. 4 and Tony Oct. 12, not Oct. 14 like some have said. Libra/Libra bond!). The Fratellis were also in L.A. Oct. 2014 and Tony helped them out with some business stuff, even though he was no longer managing them then. Then, as I’ve already stated, Cait and Tony spent time together Dec. 2014 and January 2015 for the holidays. Then Valentine’s Feb. 2015, Cait flew to London for the opening of Tony’s 2nd bar, The Reading Room. She posted a pic on IG. Then in April 2015, Tony flew to NY to join Cait for the premiere of the second half of Season 1. Eyewitness sources saw him sitting with Cait’s friends at the screening and then with Cait and her friends inside the after party. There was one PUBLIC pic on Twitter of Cait, Tony and Sam. And I and others have been shown private pics of Tony there. Many of us have seen them but we couldn’t make them public because they show the location where they were taken, thus identifying the source who took them, and she would get in trouble with her boss. After that, in May 2015, Cait went back to Glasgow to begin shooting OL Season 2, and this time, she brought her cat, Eddie with her. Per more than one source, Tony pretty much lived in Glasgow after that with Cait. One person who went to Tony’s bars in Glasgow and then reached out to me, said that she had asked about Tony and was told “he doesn’t come around much anymore because he moved back to Scotland.” They then moved into their new place in Glasgow, move out of that one and into a new one in Glasgow, and also have a place in London, and are now married and had their first son. THAT’s how Tony and Cait made it work.

My Tony source also parted ways with me, also due to fear of being found out. She didn’t formally break up with me, the way the original industry source did, she simply ghosted me. But I also see her pop up on Twitter or IG sometimes and get all wistful. Oh well...

After I posted the insider info from BOTH these sources, then people started to contact me with source info. They knew I was Anon and would keep them Anon--win/win. People who went to Hollywood parties, or premieres, or meet and greets, people who saw celebs at the market, or baseball games, or the beach, or at the gym, or walking down the street, or just happened to be at the right place at the right time, started sending me info. From all over the world, wherever Sam and Cait were. And if I could confirm it to be true, I would post it. If I couldn’t completely guarantee it, then I’d say it was speculation. And that’s what I still do. Granted, back in the day, I was somewhat naive, and did get burned and betrayed a few times. I admitted when that happened. I’m much more careful now. But for the most part, the MAJORITY of the info I’ve posted has been ACCURATE. People who have been here for years can corroborate that. I don’t post everything that is shared with me though. And because my sources are actual real humans, they can’t know everything or be everywhere…I don’t always get minute by minute info, that doesn’t mean I don’t have real sources.

As for me also being the first to let the fandom know that Sam was dating Abbie Salt in 2015...I had a couple of Abbie sources. One of them turned out to be super sketchy and once I figured that out, we parted ways. My Abbie sources approached me after I had already established my account as an insider info sharing account. The motivation was to debunk that Cody and Sam were still seeing each other since they no longer were, and Abbie had started seeing Sam. 

BTW: as an aside...I was also the one that, through an eyewitness source, told the fandom that Sam and Cody Kennedy had gone to the Matthew Morrison Halloween party in October 2014, and the source had seen them kissing while waiting for the valet to bring their car around. You don’t know the LENGTHS that Extreme Shippers went to to disprove my source. They even Google Earthed the driveway from the street to the valet and measured it trying to prove that my source could not have seen where Sam and Cody were waiting for their car. Hahahah omg. Except, my source wasn’t on the street, she was right next to them. After all the bullshit from ES, it’s a wonder I’m still here, but here I am...the strongest bitch you’ll ever meet. But I digress...

Anyhoo, back to Sam and Abbie. I had no idea Abbie Salt existed or that she had dated Sam before and was friends with him…until my Abbie source contacted me to tell me that Sam was no longer dating Cody Kennedy and had resumed dating Abbie Salt. Abbie met Sam years ago when her sister, actress, Charlotte Salt starred with Sam in “A Princess For Christmas,” they dated briefly then, and then rekindled their romance in early 2015. Cody Kennedy’s mom later confirmed this by posting publicly in response to a fan Sam and Cody had broken up because “Sam went back to his old girlfriend in London.” Abbie lives in London. Again…I was surprised because I had no idea…but all the info checked out and then whadda you know, Abbie started showing up in Glasgow…in Sam’s flat (IG pics since deleted)…in L.A. in February 2015 at the London hotel, West Hollywood seen and photographed by an eyewitness for Oscars Week parties (the pic is of Sam and the fan, taken by Abbie, fan said Abbie was super sweet)... n NY when he was there for the OL premiere April 2015 (she posted on her IG, since deleted the pics), in Miami when he was there (eyewitness and Miami source proof that they were in Miami together, and NO that was not me, it was a source) and in Barbados together (Barbados source confirmation, and NO that was not me, it was a source, and pics from Abbie and Sam Tweeted he had been in Barbados). After that, Abbie was in Glasgow and Sam in London, where Abbie lives, on several occasions…not to mention she was photographed as his date in Monte Carlo for the TV Film Festival. It couldn’t be a coincidence that the Abbie Salt sources told me about AHEAD of time, then started to spend all that time with Sam. I didn’t even know Abbie existed, how would I have ever known anything about her without sources?

I also told the fandom about Mackenzie Mauzy and Sam dating via a source who saw them in person, holding hands and leaving together at a Guns N Roses concert in Los Angeles April 1, 2016. A friend of someone I know in L.A. was there and recognized Sam. He told my friend that he’d seen “that Outlander dude, Sam Heughan holding hands with a blonde, leaving the Guns N Roses concert.” At first, I thought it may have been Cody Kennedy, but afterwards, sources came forth to confirm it was Mackenzie Mauzy. Later on, I was contacted by a different Mackenzie source and given more info, which I posted. That Mackenzie source ghosted me too because Mackenzie was probably asking questions as to who was doling out info.  Also, by sheer providence, a fan was in the stands at the Dodgers baseball game in June 2016 and sent me a video of Sam and Mackenzie at the game together. Another source sent me the video of Sam and Mackenzie leaving their hotel together at San Diego Comic Con. I’ll repost all that in the archives. And someone I’ve known for years on Tumblr and trust completely came forward to share that she found out Sam and Mackenzie had broken up from one of Mackenzie’s relatives who live near her. Again, that was also by chance. Life can indeed be stranger than fiction. The relative told her Mackenzie wanted to get married and have kids and Sam wasn’t ready for that yet, so they broke up. That source came forth and identified herself on Tumblr, so that also proves my source info was legit. 

In summary: I was the FIRST to let the fandom know Cait and Sam weren’t dating, Cait was dating Tony, and Sam was dating Abbie, and Sam was dating Mackenzie BEFORE anyone else knew. You can’t do ALL of that simply by scouring social media posts as haters would have you think. It’s just not possible. And reasonable people understand that.

Before Covid-19 hit, people who were attending industry events would contact me and say “Hey Purv, I’m going to the PCA, or the TCA, or the GoldenGlobes, or the Outlander Season premiere and after party, I’ll give you the scoop!” I’d say “Cool, thanks! Send pics or video and let me know what and who you see.” That’s it. No social media searches or data mining needed. There is no conspiracy involved. No one is “feeding” me info from Sam or Cait’s camps or non-shipper or shipper sides to propagate a certain “narrative.” It’s just different people, who are at the right place at the right time, or are privy to certain insider info, sharing it with me because they know I post info for fans who are into that. As I’ve said ad infinitum, I am quite simply THE MESSENGER.

Any questions, send me an Ask or a Direct Message on my MAIN account @p-redux  Thanks!

[caitrionabalfestanclub]

Ex-shippers here on tumblr don’t blame Cait for the ship that sank in the fandom because they believe now her marriage to Tony is real. Instead they are focusing their anger, harassment and revenge onto Sam and any female he has close or romantic relationships with. Observe the posts and gifs that are added to them. Read the wacky comments and strange theories that don’t make sense because they avoid the truth. Shippers are the ones that lash out at Cait and make fun of Tony when things don’t go their way. Ex-shippers are the opposite. They go after Sam to make themselves feel better and to explain or justify their behavior for feeling duped into a SamCait ship that never existed. In reality Sam and Cait have always been friends from the beginning and have been attracted to other people. Cait’s former boyfriend and Tony look very similar. Tall, slim, and with dark hair. A business or musician type. Sam is into women who are sporty and physically fit, models or actresses, and those who love the outdoors. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that because most of us have our own image of an ideal mate or partner we are attracted to. If more people in the fandom would just accept this and move on to reality then maybe they would enjoy Outlander for what it is. A once in a lifetime show that is beautifully made with extremely talented actors who appreciate good and decent fans. Also the cast and crew are like one big family who enjoy being around each other and are very supportive.

People just want a reason to complain. I’m over it lol I’m tired of the body shaming. The gay accusations. People being vile and disgusting because the narrative they have in their heads isn’t real. I don’t really care if it’s shippers or ex shippers everyone has a responsibility to shut down those conversations and instead people are continuing them. It’s gross.

[outlanderfandomfollies]

I think a big problem in many circles in this fandom is lack of life experience. Many of those angry ex shippers for example have little life experience and certainly very little that would be comparable to that of a famous person. Anyway, IMO, this lack leads to a lot of elementary interpretation of events. It’s like ppl think Sam is actually Jamie and lives his life that way and when he steps out of that imaginary lifestyle they get mad

Thanks for sharing your thoughts anon!

I agree with you anon that although I’m sure Outlander fans have had a lot of different life experiences, the kinds of life experiences most have had are not “comparable” to the lives of celebrity actors. 

Many of the assumptions certain fans make of what is or is not “appropriate” behavior for Cait and Sam (given Cait’s marriage to Tony) is based on a very different (I imagine mostly suburban middle class) lifestyle. (For more about how the acting lifestyle is different see this POST.) 

I do believe anon that shippers and ex-shippers certainly know that Sam isn’t Jamie and Cait isn’t Claire. But I think on some level many very much wanted them to be like their characters. 

I remember back in 2015 the shipper blogs were full of romantic notions that ‘fate’ had brought Sam and Cait together to have a great love. Unfortunately, these shippers didn’t seem to realize how much of this was a projection of their own wishes onto Sam and Cait.

Yes, Sam and Cait played up their chemistry to sell the show at PR events and BTS photoshoots--but many of us saw through that early on. So why did some fans allow themselves to be fooled for years? (And sadly, some are still fooling themselves! 🤦‍♀️) 

What I also continue to find interesting is how so many ex-shippers are still angry that SamCait turned out not to be real. I mean, Sam’s last big shippery ‘fan service” (i.e., being in bed with Eddie while Cait ran the marathon) happened about 2 1/2 years ago! Yet, many still whine about it like it happened a few weeks ago.

I really wish more of them would let go of the anger and allow themselves to move on. 

[clairebeauchampfan]

These people..

Here’s a hate filled former shipper defending herself and the other hate-filled SamCait haters. The bold italics are all mine.

AnonymousWhy do you think you and many others have taken what they have done/ do so personally?

Hateishateishateishate24-7

I see what you are doing right here, Anon… “you and many others” but I will entertain your thought.

These people have insulted their fans (horny grannies from Cait and Sam liking a tweet where shippers were called “fruitcakes”). 

THESE people refused to accept that Sam and Cait were probably never an item, even though they denied it. Frequently. And they certainly haven’t been since the great Denial interview.  Let alone the Engagement . And who insulted whom by calling these events “from hell”, and saying that they were “fake”? What normal fan felt cheated if Jamie and Claire weren’t engaged every episode in graphic sex?  What normal fan would take a light hearted aside and turn it into a mortal insult to all fans? What normal fan now spends her days dreaming up new ways to insult not only the TV stars they once adored, but every other fan who still likes the show and Sam and Cait (or is the term ‘arse-licker’ not an insult these days? ) 

These people have not spoken up when part of their fans were being bullied (“suggest you ignore” according to Sam, guess shippers were not a worthy cause). 

THESE people bullied every one of Sam’s girlfriends, and still do when they get the chance. They called Mackenzie Mauzy a paid beard, a whore, The Gash and other worse names. And you expect Sam to defend fans like these! These people have gone out of their way to insult Caitriona’s husband, calling him a failed businessman, a purse carrier, gay (and not in an allied, supportive manner), Nosferatu, Dracula.... Did any of these people (the Extreme Shippers) leap to Mackenzie, Abbie, Cody’s defence. Or Tony’s? 

These people have allowed OL entourage to troll the fandom (drivers calling fans “cunts”, opening a go fund me to go to NYC highlander parade, hook-ups of said drivers saying that shippers should commit suicide).

THESE people reposted every cruel anon shit-shovelling post  with an approving smile or ‘clap’ emoji. These people supported the worst kind of bunny-boiling shippers, and still do. These people hate every man and woman in the cast and crew , and want vengeance. They want to burn down the fandom. What normal fan wants to burn down her own fandom? 

 These people called shippers delusional for believing the crock of shit they sold.

THESE people concocted lies about Sam and Cait in support of their ship. They supressed photos showing Cait with Tony.  These people created their own myths and sold them to other gullible, vulnerable fans to maximise their followers on nTumblr, IG and Twitter.  The baby train, the blurry photos,  the fists, the single frame photos, the slow-mo videos. These people called the engagement and now the wedding ‘fake’. They said Caitriona was having mental problems, they said Sam ‘pinged’. Most of them are patent, unapologetic  homophobes. 

These people ditched a con to go to Mexico for a vacay with their friends. These people got defensive (and blocked) fans when said fans felt a bit upset after this big star cancelled his appearance at a con just with one week to go and then was having a grand time rowing with friends and boasting about it on SM. 

THESE people believe TV stars should be at their beck and call 24/7. They wanted Season 3, Season 4, and now Season 5 completed like, yesterday. How dare they take vacations? And yet so many of them claim they won’t even be watching Season 5, and didn’t watch season 4. 

These people gaslighted their fans for 5 years with the “are they or are they not” to finish it off with a Somerset wedding on a remarkable weekend. 

THESE people gaslit themselves and then sought to blame Sam and Cait for acting all loved up, like every other TV ‘couple’ doing a good PR job. 

These people only interact with fans when there is something to sell.

THESE people ruined Sam and Cait’s relationship with the ordinary, sane fans. No wonder they now keep their fan interaction to the minimum

So the question should be: Why isn’t everybody taking it personally??? Is the fan abuse so darling because it comes from Sam and Cait? 

Is the abuse of Sam and Cait so personal because these people felt let down by them? Or because THESE people are narcissisitic bunny-boilers who actively sought out everything Sam or Cait said or did which could be twisted to show them in the worst possible light

 See, just because people don’t talk about it 24/7 doesn’t mean it never happened. 

THESE people are no longer fans , they no longer watch the show, yet their blogs contain nothing, literally NOTHING  but shit talk about Sam and Cait. 24/7. Every damn day. 

People are welcome to believe it didn’t happen. People can go to town lying to themselves. People can regurgitate the “we don’t walk in their shoes” as much as they want but if these people were in our lives, we would be running for the hills.

You identified your own problem, sister. 

I am not a glutton for punishment.

But you are  a glutton for feasting on nastiness, for picking over scabs, for festering in malignancy, for wallowing in self-pity  

Never was and never will. So, yes, I take what they have done/do personally and I would be disappointed in myself if I didn’t. I was not raised to withstand abuse, were you?

THESE people found abuse where none was intended, and magnified it out of all proportion. THESE people  wallow in their own sense of entitlement, their own gievances. They dwell on every real and imagined slight. THESE people seek out offence where none is intended. Evidently THESE people were raised to give abuse. They just love it. They live for it. Their lives have no meaning without it. They compete with eachother to ‘score’ hits on Outlander, on Sophie, on Matt, on Rik, on Sam, and especially on Cait. THESE people  don’t give a fig for all the thousands of real fans and their feelings about the show, and about Sam and Cait, as long as THEY can parade their own ‘hurt’. Look at me! Look at me! See my wounds...am I not a martyr? 

#THESE PEOPLE #the real bullies #the real gas-lighters

[thebrochtuarachs]

If they want me (a fan) to talk about it, I’ll talk about it.

Outlander S4 PR has been doing so well until this (IMHO).

My take on some Q&A from Cait’s Parade article. 

It’s 3AM where I am and there will be grammatical errors on this but I had to let it out. 

Really lengthy, snark, rant ahead. You’ve been warned. ✌🏻😊 Feel free to pass if not your cup of tea. I mean, I probably wrote a bunch of woozy anyway. But this is my space and yeah, haha! 

1. What’s with the title?

Yeah, Sam’s name just had to be inserted somewhere here to make it clickable, sure. I don’t know if the motivation for “total opposite” was to show “how different Sam and Cait are” or “how Sam and Cait will never be” - but all I know is...opposites attract. If it meant to hurt shippers, well, were just getting started here. 

But seriously - If I get a chance to chat with Caitriona Balfe about season 4 scoop, I’d prefer that instead of talking about fans and using the name of her supposed platonic co-star to speculate some clickbait on the article. If the latter was the goal, they probably succeeded a bit cause here am I writing this loooong post. 

2. A great mystery - Who is Maestro? 

First of all, Caitriona is NOT newly engaged - ITS ALMOST BEEN A YEAR. Second, I am yet again confused as to the nationality and job of the great maestro. I asked this once in my blog and an anon came through with a thorough explanation of Maestro’s “history” but I guess I’ll just go back to “NEVER being sure who he really is” again. 

3. Oh, I grew up watching car races and now I’m in a racing movie!

I get the PR - Cait grew up watching car racing and now she’s in a car racing movie, what a way to come round full circle. 

But I’ve read a couple of articles from Cait about her life in Ireland before and never have I seen before that she’s mentioned that watching car races was part of their family tradition holidays up until now. (or is there? I may be wrong. I’m not sure, could be. Some other people can share it, if there is) But nonetheless, true or not, it works well with the PR. 

Also, Cait, I know a guy (Sam) who goes and watches F1 races from the paddocks. Why don’t you guys drop by sometime and you know, watch together? *wink wink* It’ll be good for research and stuff. Not to mention going out with one of your best mate, am I right? ✌🏻

4. I spend the weekends by myself - as shown in the way this statement is filled with singular pronouns

She drags herself alone to go out for some food, She reads alone, she walks alone, she prepares her own food and putters around the house. (I am my own, independent person regardless of my “soon-to-be hitched” status)

Okay, the way I see this - she really doesn’t want to be defined who she’s in a relationship with or who she’s engaged with. Look how independent the statement above is. I get it - she wants to be known more as “an actress” and not as an “engaged and extremely in love with my fiancé actress”. 

Basically it kinda says “sometimes forget I’m engaged at all except when Sam and I are being too touchy-feely with each other.” 

But seriously, Cait, not screaming/vibing engaged here! Meaning saying his actual name and weaving your relationship in the public face, inviting him to pose with you in red carpets and events despite his “shy” stature, etc. Erm, maybe just don’t be engaged at all and don’t get married yet - I didn’t say break it up or anything, just straighten the confusing narrative first? 

5. I am not exactly like Claire but Sam, my co-star only, will be the first one to disagree.

Why do I feel like “and the other people who know me very well” line got added after a pause cause Sam got mentioned and she cannot mention only Sam because fans will suspect. Hahaha! (And suspect we well cause isn’t that the purpose of this article?)

Also, but why not “Tony, my fiance, will be first to disagree because he knows me so well” rather than her “were super platonic only” co-star? 

Oh, cause of the narrative. 

Which narrative again? I am getting confused now. 

Oh, the one where Sam Heughan is just her friend who loves her and knows her so well. 

Great. 

6. SINCE SAM GOT MENTIONED THE QUESTION BEFORE ITS ONLY NATURAL WE TALK ABOUT HIM...

OMG, my English grammar mind is like screaching those dangling modifiers. “Sam Heughan, who plays your soul mate...” HAHAHAHAHA! That’s the first thing that I noticed. Second, the question would be much clearer if phrased “Are you good friends with Sam Heughan, who plays Jamie Fraser, your character’s soul mate?” - SEE  sentence construction HERE, we would be talking about the show and its characters and not see anything else. But then, this is just me.

Also, why ask Cait if she’s good friends with Sam? Of course she is! (and I truly believe this regardless of whatever situation they chose). Other wise, if she says “no”, just imagine the PR nightmare it would entail. The repercussions, the bad PR from tabloids how the two leads “don’t get along”, the possibility of not getting renewed after season 6, a lot of bad will follow if she said the wrong answer. Hahahaha! Either this or the writer (don't know his history with OL) is super new to the fandom who don’t have an idea just how close Sam and Cait are.

Oh goody, we get the Hyde Park walk mentioned again! I always love this memory of theirs.

Comment on Paragraph 1: Why do I feel like Cait got caught off guard rehashing this story. The answer, if verbatim, is so jumpy and incoherent. Like I could summarise the story in shorter sentences. Eitherway, I’ve always loved that they spent the time together at the beginning and realised just how much of a relationship they were going to have. Also, the line” Who knows what this is going to be?” which they asked even before they started filming - so loaded the possibilities of the meaning of this simple question. 

Comment on Paragraph 2: Shouldn’t it be maestro’s job to be her biggest supporter, the first person she calls to have talking to about stress? Also, love the “vice versa”. Sometimes, I can’t imagine Sam being the stressed one between the two of them but I just love their dynamic. OH AND THEY HAVE SIMILAR PERSONALITY TRAITS (where is the complete opposite part?! (*see next question*, here we go)

7. HOW TO DESCRIBE BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP 101

Here it is....how opposite Sam Heughan and Caitriona Balfe are that it’s impossible to think of them ever being in a relationship. 

Cait is bullish and Sam calms her down before she gets too frustrated. 

Sam is a little passive and Cait gives him a nudge and a strength to stand up for something. 

OH WAIT

Erm, what you guys just described about each other is “being in a good, healthy relationship” - thanks, bye. Again...opposites attract. The statements just show that they’re both not as strong as one seem and really feed off strength from each other’s lives and company. Like, you know, being together or something to that effect. 

Also, if you guys, Sam and Cait, are dropping the fake narrative soon, you know - Cait can nudge Sam to stand up for them and publicise their “real”  relationship and then when the reality of their “real score” being revealed gets too frustrated, Sam just can calm Cait down. It’s honestly, a win-win, guys. 

8. ONTO THE “BEST FANS EVER”

This question was actually fine until the follow up...

9. WAS ASKING THIS QUESTION FREAKING NECESSARY?

I think I’ve mentioned this before but IF PR WANTS TO STAY AWAY FROM FANS TALKING ABOUT SAMCAIT, then they have to stop allowing these kind of questions. They could’ve asked the author to not include this question in the publishing because what is the freaking point. If the writer have done his research, he already knows the answer to this (heck we know from various and numeous sources). And if he knew the climate of the fandom, this should not have been asked published - yet again.  I’m sure Sam and Cait hate answering these questions because, lets admit it, it takes away some of the magic. But here it is and there again is their punchline and I’ve seen this same answer as before. 

But Cait had to add something new: “But I think things are pretty clear now that I'm engaged to someone else. Everyone gets it now” HMMMMMMMMM...So was the purpose of the engagement to put off the stench and speculation that Sam and you aren’t together? That the main purpose was for all shippers to stop shipping you and Sam cause you’re engaged some someone else whose name you’ve yet to mention yourself in public or social media and your fans have no total idea who he is and what he does for a living? 

Oh and uhh, Cait - NOT EVERYONE GETS IT NOW. If anything, were all the more confused. Also, regardless of what you guys do, you can never ever avoid the shipping (real or show) cause that’s just fanning is. Oh, and you’re not the first and only ship with OTP that have spouses. Seriously, you’re not the first nor the only experiencing this and the other fandoms have actually embraced this instead of trying so hard to shut it down. 

9. REHASHING SEMI-FAMOUS FANDOM HISTORY

Seriously. 

If the author had done his/her research, these are semi-famous stories already from before and he could’ve asked about book 4 or season 4 or anything RECENT that would make sense why this article was even written in the first place. 

I just think it’s a missed opportunity to ask something else, something new. Meh. 

10. Cait’s Faves

Maybe it should be Cait’s current fave things.

TSWDM as her favorite movie? I mean no offence to TSWDM but considering how deep her book choices are, I thought she’d choose a “deep, serious” movie as her favorite but choosing her “platonic” co-stars recent comedy flick as her choice (maybe in support of them having each other’s backs, you know) she chose that one - or maybe she really, really loved the movie too. 

Race Car Documentaries - lets push the PR for her upcoming movie, yes!! 

The Fiery Cross - EARLY PROMO FOR NEXT SEASON!!

Yeah, so I wouldn’t assume this is Cait’s “all-time” faves... 

-

SO, WHY DID I DO THIS?!

BECAUSE I THOUGHT I’D FIND A POINT ABOUT THIS ARTCLE AND NOT SOME OBVIOUS HIDDEN AGENDA BEHIND IT?

WHAT EXACTLY WAS THE POINT OF THIS ARTICLE? WHY DID IT NOT TALK ABOUT OUTLANDER OR SEASON 4 AT ALL INSTEAD OF FANS AND NARRATIVES?

WHAT IS THIS PUBLICITY ALL ABOUT?

TO REITERATE THE “THEY’RE NOT TOGETHER” NARRATIVE CAUSE THE “SHE’S ENGAGED TO ANOTHER GUY” WASN’T ENOUGH OR DIDN’T WORK? TO PROVE JUST HOW WEIRD SOME CORNER OF THE FANDOM IS (as per the writing of this lengthy, rant post)

SERIOUSLY. I AM FLARING.

BECAUSE ALL THESE IS IRRELEVANT TO THE PROMOTION OF OUTLANDER SEASON 4 AND IT IRKS ME THAT THEY HAD OR TRYING TO PUT SHIPPER FANS IN, YET AGAIN, A BAD LIGHT, WHEN WE’RE TRYING TO STAY IN OUR LANE FOR MOST OF THE YEAR AND MAKING SENSE OF WHAT’S GOING ON. 

IS THIS WHAT THEY WANTED? FANS TALKING AROUND HOW IRRELEVANT THESE THINGS ARE? OR SPECULATE HOW WEIRD OR AMBIGUOUS EACH ANSWER IS?! 

Oh, Lordy. 

COME ON, PR.

SELL YOUR SHOW. 

NOT THE “NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP”. 

NOT THE “BEST FANS EVER”.

NOT THE “DELUSIONAL” FANS WHO NOW FINALLY “GETS IT”. (cause, as per this article, we still don’t)

SELL YOUR SHOW AND WHAT IT’S ABOUT - JAMIE AND CLAIRE FRASER.

BECAUSE ALL I WANT IS OUTLANDER SEASON 4 COVERAGE. 

TALK ABOUT CLAIRE AND JAMIE. TALK ABOUT BREE. TALK ABOUT THE BOOK. TALK ABOUT THE RIDGE. TALK ABOUT THEIR CHARACTER’S AND BOOK’S LIFE. 

SUCH A WASTE OF SPACE AND TIME AND ALL FOR WHAT?

TO IRK SHIPPY FANS TO MORE EYE-ROLLING MOMENTS?

TO GET RID OF THE 20 SHIPPERS REMAINING?

CAUSE GUESS WHAT OUTLANDER/STARZ PR?

THE (RESPECTFUL) SHIPPING WILL NEVER STOP EVEN IF CAIT AND SAM ARE MARRIED - EITHER TO EACH OTHER OR OTHER PEOPLE.

THAT’S JUST HOW IT IS AND HOW ITS GOING TO BE CAUSE THAT IS FANDOM AND THAT IS SHIPPING.

SO, JUST FOCUS ON SELLING THE SHOW AND WHAT ITS REALLY ALL ABOUT.

JAMIE AND CLAIRE FRASER.

NOTHING MORE. NOTHING LESS. 

Thanks. 

*end of caps lock writing*

It’s 4AM and I’m going to sleep. 

-

Updating this the following day after reading some comments and theories as to why this ever seen the light of day: 

1. Could this be a follow up “aggressive shipper” article by EW?! A ploy put into place by Sony/Starz to, yet again, attack the “shipping” community? 

IT COULD VERY WELL BE. WHY ELSE PUT UP THIS NONSENSE OF AN ARTICLE THAT DOESN’T PROMOTE THE SHOW ONE BIT. 

Like to control shippers yet again after the love fest the past two weeks at cons? To control shippers after releasing S4 promo photos of Jamie and Claire?

I mean if they put this same effort in shutting “shippers” down to promoting their show, they might increase their ratings and subscribers!! UGH. 

2. Could Caitriona be that Caitriona did NOT actually say some of the things said? 

Possibly. I mean, now that I think about it, some statements were contradictory to what she’s said before and the language seems a little too forward that she usually is (e.g. “But I think it’s pretty clear now. I’m engaged now so everyone gets it”). Yeah, maybe it doesn’t feel like Cait saying this - cause I think she knows it’s NEVER clear but - yeah, could be. Could be that the this article was written deliberately to counter the “aggressive shipping” happening since the cons and using Cait’s “engagement” was their weapon of choice this time. 

[renee-writer]

A Week In A Hotel with Lot's of Alcohol Chapter 1

SamCait Fanfic

"No, yes I know that. No! I am telling you that it is just isn't right. Yes, I can control this. Yes, I am aware of the scenes we will be doing. But I am a professional and this is just a crush. Don't even go there. I am serious. How is my Eddie? Good. I know. I miss her too. Thank you. Gotta go. Someone is knocking. Okay Donal. Love you too. Goodbye."

Cait disconnects from her best friend and official cat sitter, Donal. She is quite thankful for him. Not just anyone can watch her spoiled baby Edwina, AKA Eddie. But his insistence on talking to her about her feelings for Sam, ah but she had told him. But she had to tell someone. And he had been her go to person for years. She sighs as she hurries to the door.

"Ron wants a meeting with us, in his office, right now." Sam greets her.

"Did he say what about?" She asks as she hunts up her shoes and puts them on.

"Yes. Something about preparing for the intimate scenes."

"Get naked and pretend to have sex," she says with a nervous giggle as she follows him out," what is to prepare for?"

"Ah, it is slightly more complicated then that." He responds turning to smile at her. A smile that steals her breath and train of thought. She.quietly follows him into Ron's office.

"Okay guys. You know the sex scenes are to be more real then anything else that is currently showing on TV other then porn?"

"Yes." Sam answers as Cait nods. They sit across from him

Cait's hands twist nervously in her lap. The intimate scenes are worrisome. Pretending to have sex, even oral sex, with someone who- well it won't be easy. And now was Ron about to make it harder? She refocuses on him.

"There will be contact with your breasts and nipples Caitriona. Sam will, as Jamie, be touching and sucking on them. You will be grinding pelvises together.. You will be seeing and touching every part of each other, except your penis and vagina."

"Penis and vulva. The vagina is inside." Cait corrects as her mind spins. She knew this of course. It was made clear on the contract she had signed. But to hear it in such bald terms. While sitting beside the man she is mightly attracted to.

"Just so. Sorry. But you get my point?"

"We know all this Ron."

"Yes Sam. I do have a point. Due to the nature of the scenes we believe it would be good to have you two get to know each other better. So, we are sending you to London. First to get your hair dyed Sam and yours permed Caitriona. And then to spend a week there, in a hotel together. Same room. The intimacy of living together for a week should help you to know each other and get past some of the awkwardness of filming these scenes."

"What! You want us to share a bed?" Cait cries out.

"No. There will be two beds. Of course, if you wish to, whatever it takes."

"What would you have us do Ron? In this motel for a week?" A slightly calmer Sam asks.

"Talk. Sharw histories. Kiss. Snuggle. I want these scenes leaving the viewers feeling uncomfortable. Like they have just witnessed two real- life lovers. Whatever it takes to get in that head space. You leave tomorrow."

" Is he serious." A shaken Cait asks as they leave.

"Aye lass."

"Have you ever, I know you have filmed these type of scenes before, have you ever been asked to spend a week in a hotel with an actress to prep before?"

"No, but I have never really done these type of scenes before." She looks to him startled because she knows better. "I mean, I have but---Ron wants to rip off the last barrier, to put the viewers in the room with us. Even in the most intimate scene, there is a knowledge that the audience has that they are watching actors. What Ron wants to do is to make it so it doesn't ah feel, no doesn't look like acting."

"I see. I guess I understand just."

"I know Cait, but you can trust me." They have reached her trailer. He opens the door for her.

"I know Sam. See you tomorrow."

"Aye lass." He smiles and walks next door to his trailer. She watches him thinking," But can I trust myself."

[p-redux]

I feel really disappointed bc I missed the 2ish years of Sam and MM and I feel like the way she was treated is a big reason Sam won’t be a little more open abt his private life. I love cute celebrity couples on red carpets but it doesn’t feel like that will ever happen again 😞

Anon, it wasn't just how Mackenzie was treated, it's been all the women Sam has dated AND any woman remotely associated with him. All the way to when Sam started to get noticed for Outlander, Amy Shiels was the first to get harassed, then Cody Kennedy, then Abbie Salt, then Mackenzie Mauzy, GiaMarie, etc. He went out publicly and was photographed out with each of them on several occasions. If you do a Google Search, most of the pictures and videos with each woman at public events are still out there. The most photographed was Mackenzie with him because they had the longest relationship (2016-2018). 

I know from a direct source that: Extreme Shippers (identifiable ones who are still in the fandom) contacted Abbie’s sister, actress Charlotte Salt, Abbie’s parents, Abbie’s ex-boyfriend, the school where Abbie worked, to badmouth her and harass them. Sam himself told this source this happened. This came straight from Sam’s mouth. Then same thing happened with Mackenzie. Sam directly told my source that the same type of harassment happened with Mackenzie. Mackenzie got death threats. A separate source who knows Gia, said they did the same thing with her. And both Gia AND Sam got death threats while they were in Hawaii together, and had “suspicious packages” mailed to the house where they were staying in Hawaii. That’s next level scary. And this harassment was from Anonymous Extreme Shippers using their Shipper Accounts and from IDENTIFIABLE Extreme Shippers. There is NO denying WHO was doing the harassment.

That’s why Sam finally made his statement on Twitter about the bullying and harassment he and anyone associated with him have received. And I repeat, MAKE NO MISTAKE, the attacks have come from Extreme Shippers who are bitter their SamCait ship isn’t real and they blame Sam, Cait and their significant others. No matter how much Extreme Shippers try to deny it’s them, the solid CONCRETE proof is out there and has been posted. 

So, sadly, I think you’re right, Anon, Sam doesn’t give much away about his private life anymore because EVERY TIME he has, he and the woman have been mercilessly attacked. But who knows, when he finally finds “the one,” he may say f*ck it and take her to all kinds of public events, smile his glorious smile, and all will be right with the world. Hope springs eternal...  

[superfluffycool]

What's going on? I thought people said that the whole engagement was a mistake and was some other couple with them on the beach? Is C with T or not? Are T and C engaged? I can't wrap my head around T accepting all C's and S's inappropriate behavior during interviews and twits. Not that it matters, I think the only way T could accept S and C behavior is that S is gay. I understand its all work but my actor friends say that actors to kiss like S&C unless they hooking up. what a mess

It is a mess! And your actor friends are right - tongue kissing is not the norm between actors, unless that’s what they do off stage, too ; )

Everyone has interpreted the past few days a little differently, so here’s my take:

Cait is not engaged. Tait is not real. The engagement rumor was done on purpose and was not a misunderstanding involving the other couple’s real engagement. The point of all this bumbling is for people to suspect she’s engaged.

If Tait isn’t real, then SamCait must be. Cait wouldn’t need a fake fiancé otherwise.

[irenedonnee]

What if the situation was reversed.

What if the bosses where trying to sell us SamCait and shut Cait and an SO (T is guess?)?

What if she and Sam had a good chemistry on screen but in real life wouldn’t do things alone together, wouldn’t walk next to each other at awards, wouldn’t really talk to each other only when needed to BUT she would light up when her T is around.

(like it’s with T in real life in case nobody got it *wink wink*)

What if she’d say through the same colum journalist in AU, through People at the GG and then in an awkward interview she’s engaged to Sam?

But meanwhile, while she’s supposed to be engaged to Sam, she does 10000000 activities, spend all her time with T and even bring him to set to spend more time with him. What if while she’d be supposed to date Sam she’d be seen with T in another city, kissing by the window and having pancakes on Valentines Day.

What would we say?

She isn’t really engaged to Sam, but they’re probably faking it to sell the show. Her real partner is T!

WELL my FRIEND ITS THE SAME THING in the present situation!!!!!

To quote Bob Dylan my babe “the answer my friend is blowing in the wind”

[cmhoughton]

It's a mirrror shot, she's holding her phone and the ring (which is on her left hand) in the mirror-reversed image looks like it's on her right...

photos 1-7 via outlander_forever; photo 8: caitrionabalfe

[yanceyrenee-blog]

Her Calm Center SamCait fanfic

Hi luvs. Wasn't going to do this. Was done writing fanfics for them after the " engagement." But this story came in my head last night and would not let me go this morning so....

She tosses and turns in her bed. Tony sleeps in a room down the hall. They are determined to make it seem real but...there is only so far she will go. The people behind this lastest chapter of the narrative wants them sharing a bed. But she firmly put her foot down. Seeing him enter her house was as far as she would go. And leave with her in the morning.

She sighs and bunches the pillow to her side. She didn't want to be sleeping alone. And she didn't want Tony beside her. Eddie meows and stretches giving her a dirty look as only cats can at being disturbed.

" Sorry luv. Mum is missing daddy."

And that was the cusp of it. She wants Sam. She wants Sam in her bed. But, he can't be seen with her outside work. They must conduct themselves with upmost professionalism.

" I can't do this Eddie. I just can't."

Eddie meows again as if to say,

" Then do something about it mum."

" You are right. This is ridiculous."

She slips off the bed, wraps her robe around her, and picks up her phone. She steps out onto the balcony shivering in the calod Scottish air. When she goes the call him, she notices the time.

" It is two in the morning. I can't bloody call him." she mutters to herself. She takes a seat on the chair that looks out over Glasgow. Her knees pulled to her chin for warmth, she sits and thinks. The truth of it all is that she is miserable, Sam is miserable, h*ll even Tony is miserable. He wants to make it a real engagment. He would be furious if he knew she was sitting outside yearning for Sam. Yearning for her calm center.

" He is probably asleep." she argues with herself as she debates calling him," But when else can I really talk to him?"

She debates for a bit longer. Bit in the end she punches in his number.

" Cait?" his sleepy, husky voice answers the phone just as she thinks he isn't going to.

" Yes, I am sorry I woke you."

" It's okay. What is wrong?"

" I...I couldn't sleep. I tossed and turned. I couldn't get comfortable. Was driving Eddie crazy." her laughter has a touch of hysteria in it," I miss you. I miss my calm center."

" I miss you too Cait. I miss you so much." his voice is full of yearning.

" Can...can I come to you?"

" Please oh please do."

" I will have to sneak out. They are watching me pretty closely."

His curses are very colorful.

" Stay there. I don't want you to get in trouble "

" But Sam. I need you."

" And I need you. So I will come to you. Let them yell at me. Where are you right now?" Even as he talks, she can hear the familiar sounds of him getting dressed.

" I am on the balcony outside my room."

" Okay Juliet. Stay there. Romeo is on the way. I love you."

" I love you too."

Sbe knew she should have argued with him. But she needs him to much too.

[sfidressage]

Now my ask: I am very gracefully about your last picexplanation of samcaits covershoot and the reasons behind their posing(i have thought so too,i `ve seen a gif for us in their hands),but all the disccusion since SDCC makes me sick.What do you think about,could it come sadly yet? I mean the "single sam" story,because the samcait fans/shippers havent realy bought it? Sorry for my english,i hope you will understand me!

I do think the “single Sam” will continue to be the promotional strategy for this coming premiere season as all the interviews leading up to it have rather conspicuously managed to include the information about how Sam and Cait are NOT a couple. The subject never fails to come up. It’s in almost every interview, and even the peripheral players have been included now in making these denials. Over and over again with the same thing. It’s really overkill at this point. And that is really my point here; If there wasn’t so much evidence to deny we would not have to listen to so many denials. It’s a bit like trying to convince someone standing out under the open blue sky that the sky that she is currently looking up at is not actually blue after all. It would be a pretty hard sell, no? The person just needs to open her eyes and look up to see the truth of the matter- that the sky is a brilliant blue- so all that is left is to try to convince her that her eyes are faulty in some way and that what she is seeing is somehow actually only an illusion. Like I said, it’s going to be a pretty hard sell.So why bother at all with trying to sell it? And to continue to try to sell it, especially since it really isn’t working? Well, my guess would be for the cover it provides a couple who either really do want their relationship to remain in the private sphere, even if it is rather an open secret amongst the fans, or who have a professional obligation to keep their relationship private- or both. The inclusion of “others” in the official narrative, and the fact that these “others” are the official word on the subject, certainly makes for some plausible deniability on the subject of Sam and Cait being actually together. Insert a few appearances by these “others”, and a few interviews with cast and crew where they answer the obligatory question of wether Sam and Cait are together, and, just like with the sky example earlier, everyone starts to question wether what they see with their own eyes isn’t just an illusion after all. But also, just like with the sky, the evidence in front of you is so compelling that it’s really a pretty hard sell to believe it. So they are going to have to try to sell the Sam and Cait are NOT together thing pretty hard to compensate for the fact that every time a fan chooses to open their eyes and really see they are seeing that bright blue sky all around them not that “other” thing that is being protested about so very much.And then there is the fact that despite the really hard sell being put on this by the promoters, the actual subjects don’t seem to be very much on board with he whole strategy. Their participation is lackluster at best. And that may well constitute another facet here. This whole promotion of the “others” only needs to provide plausible deniability, not real proof that these “other” relationships are the real ones. Having the bit of doubt about Sam and Cait out there that results from the aggressive promotion of these “others” may provide enough cover to sit their needs and then it’s only to continue to maintain enough interest by the fans in these “others” to keep all the evidence to the contrary that is being constantly provided by Sam and Cait themselves from becoming the accepted truth amongst the fans and the media both. The aggressive promotion by the studio allows Sam and Cait the leeway to live and work together fairly openly and all explained away by the doubt sown from the promotion of these “others” Seems to me that they do have some sort of relationship and that they are hiding it plain sight behind the promotion of these “others” and all the aggressive promotion of these “others” you are seeing is just part of a balancing act to maintain the illusion that they are not together.

And if what they were trying to promote actually was supported by the evidence then it wouldn't require such a ridiculous amount of "selling" of it. It would sell itself, just like the notion that the sky is blue does. Just have to open your eyes and have a look round to see that one...

[outlanderfandomfollies]

Ugh. Ya I have no clue why ppl still believe in the “narrative” it makes no sense :(. Ask anyone who is Catholic! Lol. I was a long term shipper and still would love for them to have ended up together but even I had to admit the wedding is real. The worst part of the fandom now IMO are the psycho ex shippers going on evryday abt how Sam is gay.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts anon! Sorry it took a while to get back to you.

Having been raised Catholic myself, I know there is absolutely no way a RC priest would have participated in a fraudulent wedding. The Church takes marriage way too seriously. Besides, why “fake” a marriage in a faith that doesn’t allow for divorce?  Wouldn’t it be easier to have “faked” a civil marriage or one in a faith that allows for divorce?

I don’t think that anyone is “psycho” but I do think some of the ex-shippers who switched to the “gay” theory are stuck in “conspiracy theory” thinking. They believed in the SamCait conspiracy theory for so long some can’t break the habit of assuming there must be some “secret” that TPTB don’t want to come out. After all, to them SamCait made sense--so there had to be a “good explanation” (or at least one they can accept) as to why it isn’t true.

From my perspective, Sam and Cait were never each other’s “types.” There may have been some sexual attraction between them in the beginning, but not romantic love. I take them at their word that they have been close friends but never a romantic couple.