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I saw someone refer to the fics that came out where Chat finds out about Ladybug telling Alya her identity in Gang of Secrets and gets upset about it as "saltfics" and... I guess? You could consider any of the "Adrien finds out that Ladybug lied about how Gabriel died and/or that he's a sentimonster and she didn't tell him and gets upset about it" fics to be saltfics as well, if you're defining saltfics to mean "any fic that criticizes a character's actions." Which WAS what it was taken to mean when it first started being used.
Thing is, when I use it, that's not what I mean? Just to be clear, criticizing and analyzing a character's actions, and even being negative towards them as a result, is generally okay in my book. When I say that I hate saltfics, I'm more talking about Ron the Death Eater stuff.
Like for me, what I have a problem with is more fics that
A. Criticize characters for shit they never did. Like having Alya ostracize Marinette, outright try to bully her, fics that make Adrien tell Marinette not to make a scene even when Lila's clearly maliciously, intentionally hurting Marinette right in front of him (as opposed to that possibly being just collateral damage of a non-malicious lie), stuff that didn't canonically happen, you know?
B. Inflict disproportionate retribution for things the characters did, whether it's canonical or not. A fic may only be criticizing Alya for asking for evidence that Lila's a liar or is at fault for something before jumping to conclusions, but if Marinette's response to that reasonable request is to cut off her friendship and revoke her miraculous, then that's still very salty.
But yeah. The vast majority of "Adrien gets upset with Ladybug for hiding things from him" fics don't qualify as saltfics by my own personal metric, because most of them are only faulting Ladybug for things she actually canonically did, and usually have a pretty proportionate response - especially for season 5 aftermath fics. Lying about to your boyfriend about how his father died, what kind of person he was, and not telling him he's a sentimonster IS fair reason to be angry.
I generally like fics to still have them make up, but I don't like putting those fics on the same level as the "Alya leads the class in beating up Marinette and yelling insults at her while Adrien just ignores her cries for help even while she's being physically hurt" fics, they're on such WILDLY different levels that it's comical.
#ml fandom salt#ml analysis#Sorry this just bugs me#Whenever people try to equate the Chameleon saltfic trend with how some fics are negative towards Marinette#It nearly always comes off as disingenuous to me#the degrees and kinds of negativity involved are VASTLY different
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Rating: M
Relationship: Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast
Tags: Post-Campaign 2 (Critical Role), Pre-Campaign 3 (Critical Role), Torture, Modify Memory, Chronic Pain, Headaches & Migraines, Hurt/Comfort, Kidnapping, Whump, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Mutilation, Gaslighting, Hostile Work Environment, Unreliable Narrator, Brain Damage
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Essek is lucky to be alive. It can be hard to believe, with the scars he now bears. The Mighty Nein turned on him at the close of the war, and he barely escaped with his life. He defied fate to be here. At least, that is what Ludinus Da'leth told him, when he offered Essek shelter in exchange for his particular expertise. Essek’s own recollection is— Fraught.
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i mean i do hate yosuke, yeah, but i think he's a great character. he's a flawed ass dude, and you can dislike him for it (i do), but i never really saw the point of making up a whole other guy for spite.
reminds me of that time i wrote a fic with him as a prominent character and somebody i knew avoided it because he knew i didn't like the guy and expected me to turn him into the devil or something.
he came to me later and was like "wait this is just yosuke" after he read it and was shocked that i hadn't blown him up into smithereens and stomped on the ashes.
i guess what im saying is, i think that even if you don't like yosuke, he's still a fascinating dude with a lot of potential to work with and its a fundamental waste to turn him into his worst possible traits personafied.
then again, i did erase teddie from existence in that same fic, but that was for plot reasons i swear
LMAO yeah exactly what I was saying. You don't have to like him, you can even hate him.
But, yeah, c'mon. Mischaracterizing him's a waste of one's talent IMO.
#Anonymous#I mostly stick to souyo-centric content since there's a lower chance of “saltfic-ification”#but!! it's not immune!!!
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REVELATION'S EDGE
ship: simon basset x fem!sister!reader warnings: non-explicit word count: 3.6k a/n: Had to dive deep into the emotional turmoil for this one! Simon's story really hits a nerve for me and wholeheartedly believe Daphne should have had consequences for what she did, but I digress. Can't wait to hear what y'all think!
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You lived in luxury your entire life, born into a world where wealth was as normal as the air you breathed.
Your family, known for its long history and great wealth, always moved in the highest circles of society. Aristocrats, nobles, politicians—they all knew your family's name as symbols of power and prestige.
The grand estate you called home was a symbol of generations of success. Its big gardens were always kept perfect, and the detailed, fancy architecture showed a legacy built carefully over the years.
Every corner of the estate felt like a part of history, reminding you of your family's lasting influence.
Every hallway you walked down was filled with history, as if the footsteps of those who came before echoed along with yours.
From the moment you were born, your life was set in a backdrop of fancy rooms and whispered secrets.
Your childhood was like a colorful, rich tapestry—filled with private tutors, elegant parties under sparkling chandeliers, and summers spent in grand villas overlooking the endless blue sea.
Your earliest memories were of people fixing your clothes to perfection, polite nods at gatherings, and the smell of roses always in the air from the beautiful gardens outside.
Yet even with all this luxury, you found yourself wanting more. Behind the fancy smiles and fake conversations of high society, you longed for something real—something that wasn't covered in velvet and gold.
You wanted to see the world beyond the polished staircases and perfect lawns, to find out what was behind the curtain of perfection that had always been pulled over your life.
Your father understood your curiosity. He noticed your distant looks during social events, the way you seemed to want something else when you thought no one was watching.
Seeing your dislike for the superficial life around you, he decided to give you something special. He had a room made just for you—a sanctuary, a quiet place where you could get away from the endless politics and shallow conversations that filled the rest of the house.
Now, you sat in that very room, remembering how it came to be. It always gave you a deep sense of comfort.
The room was spacious, with high ceilings that made it feel open and free, yet cozy enough to be a perfect retreat. The warm, welcoming feel of the room wrapped around you like a familiar hug. The walls were covered with bookshelves, filled with books you had collected throughout your life.
It was a collection that had grown with you—from the fun stories you loved as a child to the deep, philosophical works you studied. Each book had its own story.
Many of these books were gifts from faraway places, collected during family travels or brought by guests who stayed at the estate.
You remember the feeling of unwrapping a beautifully bound book, the crispness of its new pages, the promise of a new adventure. Some books were finds from your own explorations—rare books discovered in little shops hidden in the city—each one handpicked and cherished, with worn edges from your constant reading.
In the far corner of the room, large bay windows stretched from floor to ceiling, showing a beautiful view of the estate’s gardens. Through them, you could see the carefully trimmed hedges, the colorful flowers in full bloom, and the old oak trees standing tall. The windows were made to capture the natural light of the day, filling the room with a soft, golden glow.
On bright mornings, the sunlight warmed the floor, inviting you to stay a while. Sheer curtains hung gently, softly moving with the breeze that came in, carrying the scent of jasmine and fresh earth.
Your rocking chair sat in the middle of this peaceful space—a big, comfy chair, almost like a throne, covered with the softest blankets and pillows.
You couldn't count the hours you spent there, curled up, letting the chair rock gently while you read. It was your favorite place—a place where you could leave behind all the expectations, the responsibilities of your family name, and get lost in the pages of your books.
Here, you fought dragons, sailed across oceans, and discovered new lands.
Here, you loved, lost, and lived a thousand different lives, all while the real world moved on outside those windows.
The room was your haven—a place where you could finally breathe freely and be yourself. No grand halls, no watchful eyes, no heavy legacy—just you, the soft sound of turning pages, and the warm glow of sunlight, reminding you that there was beauty in simplicity too.
To your left, Kira, your personal maid, was a constant presence. Her Blasian heritage gave her a unique beauty, with reddish-dark auburn hair that cascaded in gentle waves down her back. Her light brown eyes were expressive, often reflecting her mood before she even spoke.
Her skin was a rich dark brown, sprinkled with freckles that added to her distinctive appearance. Tall and slender, she moved with a grace that belied her underlying strength, and her voice, airy yet slightly scratchy, filled the room with a comforting familiarity.
As she knitted you a pair of winter gloves, Kira spoke up, her tone carrying her characteristic brashness mixed with a hint of humor. "You wouldn't believe the latest rumor I heard from the market," she said, her eyes twinkling with mischief. "Apparently, Lady Edith was caught in a rather compromising situation with the Duchess of Wohrmans. It seems high society isn't as prim and proper as they pretend to be."
You couldn't help but chuckle at her comment, appreciating her candidness and the way she always managed to bring a slice of the outside world into your sheltered life. "Kira, you do realize that half of these rumors are probably just wild tales, right?"
Kira looked up from her knitting, a sly smile on her face. "Oh, of course. But it's always fun to speculate, isn't it? Besides, it's the only entertainment we get around here, given how these snobby lords and ladies turn their noses up at everything."
Her brash temperament, so carefully controlled yet so openly shared with you behind closed doors, was a refreshing contrast to the often stifling decorum of high society. Her rants about the various characters you both encountered were a source of much-needed levity in your life.
But in truth, Kira was more than just a maid; she was a confidant, fiercely loyal, and the only one who heard your true thoughts about the high society you navigated.
The tranquility of the room shattered when the doors slammed open, the sudden noise breaking the delicate calm that hung in the air.
You looked up, startled, to see Simon, your older brother, standing there.
Simon's visits were always a highlight for you, especially given the circumstances of your life. Your father's dying wish was that you reside in the family home until you were eligible to wed.
At nearly nineteen years old, you were yet to experience the onset of your period, a traditional marker of marriage eligibility in your society. This delay had kept you bound to the family estate, and though you often found the confines of this life stifling, Simon's infrequent but cherished visits were what made it bearable.
Ten years your senior, Simon was your half-brother, sharing the same father but born of a different mother. The tragic fate that befell your mother during childbirth mirrored the loss Simon experienced with his own mother, creating a bond of understanding, of shared grief between you two that had only grown deeper over the years.
As Simon stepped into the room, his presence filled the space like it always did, but today, something was different.
You couldn't help but feel a surge of excitement—he was your lifeline to the world outside these walls, and you were eager to hear the latest news and gossip from town.
The last you had heard, he had attended the 1813 social season hosted by Lady Danbury, a significant event in high society, and you were curious to hear every detail.
"Simon!" you exclaimed, rising quickly from your chair, a wide smile lighting up your features. "I didn't expect to see you so soon. Tell me everything. How was the social season? Any interesting gossip, brother?"
But something about Simon's expression gave you pause. He always had a commanding presence, his handsome features often drawing admiring glances—his skin, a deep, rich brown, perfectly complemented by his neatly styled black hair.
His eyes, usually bright and full of life, a striking contrast against his complexion, were different today. They were dim, devoid of their usual spark, and you noticed a wetness behind them that most others might miss. This ability to read him so well came from a lifetime of shared secrets and experiences.
Your smile faltered; the initial joy at seeing him now replaced with concern. His face was stony, but those eyes—they betrayed the turmoil within.
Quickly, you gestured for Kira, your trusted maid, to leave, understanding immediately that whatever Simon was about to share required privacy. As she slipped out, you felt a knot of worry forming in your stomach, tightening with each passing second.
Simon shuffled over, his steps lacking their usual confident stride, his shoulders hunched in a way that made him look smaller, almost like a child seeking comfort. His vulnerability struck you hard, and in almost a whisper, laden with concern, you called out, "Brother… are you alright?"
Suddenly, Simon's composure broke. His sobs echoed through the room, each one more heartbreaking than the last. The sound was raw, and it cut right through you.
Without a second thought, you rushed forward and pulled him into an embrace, feeling his body shake against yours. "It's okay, Simon. I'm here," you whispered, your voice thick with emotion as you cradled him, your own eyes filling with tears.
You had never seen him like this—so vulnerable, so broken. It stirred something primal within you—a fierce protectiveness, an ache in your heart that made you want to destroy whatever it was that hurt him.
The two of you stood there for a while, locked in that embrace, the room filled with nothing but the sound of his sobs and your gentle shushing.
Eventually, Simon's sobs subsided, and you pulled away just enough to look at his face. Gently, you lifted his chin with your hand and used a soft handkerchief to wipe away his tears. "Brother, what's wrong? Did something happen? You're scaring me," you said softly, trying to keep your voice steady, though inside you were anything but calm.
Simon looked at you, his eyes full of anguish, the storm of emotions swirling there almost too much for you to bear. He hesitated for a moment before speaking, his voice barely above a whisper. "Before I say anything… please promise me you won't do anything rash." His words sent a chill down your spine.
Perplexed but too concerned to argue, you nodded slowly. "I promise."
Simon took a deep breath, as if trying to steel himself for what he was about to say. "It's… Daphne," he finally admitted, his voice breaking on the name, a fragile whisper that left you cold.
Your heart skipped a beat, confusion and fear swirling inside you. "Daphne?" you repeated, your voice trembling. "What about her?"
He looked away, unable to meet your eyes, his expression one of shame. "She… forced me into… into having a child with her."
The words hit you like a physical blow. For a moment, the world around you blurred, and you couldn’t breathe. "Daphne… she… she what?" you managed to choke out, your voice barely a whisper.
Simon gripped your hands, his own trembling as he tried to ground you. "____, please. You promised. Just listen to me."
"Promised!?" you repeated, your voice rising in disbelief, your emotions starting to boil over. "How dare you ask for calm when I've just learned that… that she…"
"____, please."
But you couldn't hold it in any longer. "…raped my brother!?" The word came out like venom, filled with fury and disbelief, your chest heaving as you tried to make sense of it.
Simon visibly flinched at the word, his eyes closing briefly as if to ward off the pain it brought. He looked at you, his eyes filled with a silent plea, but you were too incensed to care. "It's sickening, Simon! She knew you didn't want children. You told her, and yet, she still…"
"____, I know," Simon said, his voice cracking. "I know, but please, don't do anything… don't make it worse."
You finally quieted down, the weight of the situation sinking in, the rage simmering under your skin. "She doesn't deserve you, Simon. She never did."
Through his tears, Simon looked at you, begging again. "Please, don't do anything rash."
You gave a non-committal nod, your mind already racing with thoughts of retribution. How could she do this to him? Your heart ached at Simon's vulnerability, but your anger towards Daphne burned fiercely. "How can she live with herself after doing this to you?"
Simon shook his head, lost in his own turmoil. "I don't know. I just…"
Realizing he needed comfort more than anything, you softened. "Alright, Simon. Let's just… let's just sit for a while."
You called for Kira, giving her a specific look that she immediately understood. "Bring us the Night's Whisper tea, please."
Kira nodded and slipped away.
Night's Whisper was a special blend you had created for your insomnia, known only to you and Kira; its calming effect was exactly what Simon needed now.
As she left to prepare the tea, you turned back to your brother, who sat beside you, his frame shaking slightly from the weight of his emotions.
"Brother," you began softly, your voice barely above a whisper. "It's always been you comforting me… It feels strange, being on this side."
Simon offered a weak smile, a ghost of his usual charm. "Yeah, roles reversed, huh?"
You sat together in silence, the weight of the moment pressing down on you both. When Kira returned with the tea, the delicate aroma of Night’s Whisper filled the room, offering a brief respite from the heaviness of your conversation.
As you both sipped the tea, you gently probed, "Simon, tell me… how did it all start? That night with Daphne?"
He took a deep breath, his voice a wistful whisper. "It was a normal night, just like any other. We were both getting ready for bed; the house quiet around us…"
Simon's words transported you to that night, his narrative painting a vivid picture. "I remember the coolness of the sheets, the dim light from the hallway spilling into the room. We talked a bit, just mundane things… nothing out of the ordinary…" His voice trailed off, each word heavy with regret and betrayal. His normally animated face was now a mask of sorrow.
You reached out, placing a comforting hand over his.
The tea worked its subtle magic, and you watched as Simon's eyelids began to droop, the exhaustion from the emotional turmoil taking its toll. For him, it was enough to gently lull him into a much-needed sleep in the comfort of your chair.
You stayed with him, a silent guardian, as he drifted off, his breathing evening out until he was finally at peace.
Once you were sure Simon was asleep, you pressed a tender kiss on his forehead. Turning to Kira, your voice was firm, your eyes blazing with determination. "Get my horse ready."
As you rode through the countryside on your favorite horse, the wind whipped through your unraveling braids, your focus laser-sharp on reaching Simon's home.
You cared little for the dirt staining your clothes or the disarray of your hair; all that mattered now was confronting Daphne.
Arriving at the house, you bypassed the maid at the door, your steps swift and resolute. The common room was filled with light laughter, the sound of high society oblivious to the darkness lurking just beneath.
Daphne sat elegantly, her strawberry-blonde hair styled impeccably, her light skin glowing in the candlelight. Beside her were Penelope Featherington and another highborn lady; their conversation filled with hopeful whispers of pregnancies and futures.
You had only heard of Daphne through gossip and Simon's reluctant admissions of their "arrangement." An arrangement that now revealed its ugly truth.
Your steps were purposeful as you approached her, the room falling silent as you called her a "harlot," your hand connecting sharply with her cheek. The sound echoed, cutting through the air and drawing gasps from the women around.
Daphne recoiled, her hand flying to her face, her expression one of shock and indignation. "What the hell do you think you're doing?" she demanded, her voice trembling between anger and confusion.
"You know exactly why I'm here," you said, your voice cold, vibrating with barely contained rage.
Her confusion deepened, and she shook her head, as if trying to shake away a bad dream. "I have no idea what you're talking about. How dare you assault me in my own home?"
"You've done far worse in this very house," you retorted, your eyes boring into hers, unyielding. "What you did to my brother…"
Daphne’s expression shifted, realization dawning slowly, her face paling as she finally comprehended why you were here. "Oh, this is about Simon?" she said, her voice tinged with a sneer, though there's a flicker of fear in her eyes. “He lied to me. He said he couldn't have children.”
You couldn’t believe what you were hearing. "He never said he couldn't. He said he wouldn't. There's a difference, Daphne. Still, a misunderstanding on your part doesn't justify what you did."
Daphne's defiance was palpable as she straightened up, her chin lifting. "I did what was right. He needed to continue his lineage. It's what anyone in our position would do."
"Please!" you hissed, your voice dripping with distaste. "Don't lump me with the likes of you!" Your anger boiled over, and you took a step closer. "You had no right to take advantage of him! If you were confused, you should have talked to him, not… not violate his trust and his body!"
Penelope and the other woman watched, stunned into silence, the tension in the room thick enough to cut with a knife.
"You're twisting the situation," Daphne argued, her voice faltering slightly as she tried to regain her composure. "Simon is my husband. It's my duty to—"
"Duty?" you cut her off, stepping even closer, your presence now towering over her. "Your duty doesn't include rape, Daphne."
She tried to meet your gaze, but there was a flicker of uncertainty in her eyes, her bravado beginning to crumble. "R-Rape?" she stammered, the word barely leaving her lips. "You're overreacting. It's not like… not like I—"
"Not like what?" you snapped, grabbing her chin, forcing her to look into your eyes. "Not like you betrayed him? A violation of the deepest kind?"
Daphne's eyes widened as she gazed into yours, and for a moment, she saw Simon in you—the same eyes, the same intensity. The resemblance was uncanny, and it shook her to her core, the reality of her actions hitting her in a way that words alone never could.
"Stay away from my brother," you commanded, your voice low and dangerous. "If you ever try to come near him again, or even attempt to justify your heinous crime one more time, you'll have to deal with me. And to the Gods above, that's a threat you don't want to test."
Releasing her chin, you straightened up, your gaze sharp and unyielding. The room, once filled with light-hearted chatter, was now heavy with the weight of unsaid truths and unveiled secrets.
Daphne sat there, her face a mix of shock and realization, the reality of what she had done finally starting to sink in.
You took a moment to smooth out your dress, restoring some semblance of poise to your disheveled appearance.
Turning to the other women in the room, you locked eyes with Penelope Featherington, her face a picture of shock and fascination. Beside her sat Lady Clarissa, a minor yet prominent figure in your social circle, known for her penchant for gossip and extravagant hats.
With a flourish of mock politeness, you offered them a sweet, yet blatantly sarcastic smile, executing a curtsey with exaggerated grace. "Ladies," you said, your voice laced with faux cheerfulness, echoing with underlying scorn.
Penelope seemed at a loss for words; her usual observant nature momentarily stilled.
Lady Clarissa, on the other hand, looked utterly bewildered, her eyes darting between you and Daphne, trying to grasp the full scope of the scandal unfolding before her.
Straightening up, you held their stunned gazes for a moment longer, letting the impact of your actions resonate.
Then, without another word, you turned on your heel and strode out of the room. Each step was measured and deliberate, echoing with the resolve of someone who had fiercely defended a loved one.
As you left, the room remained in stunned silence, the ladies left to ponder the events that had just unfolded.
Your heart was heavy with the burden of what you had to do, but it was buoyed by the knowledge that you had done what was necessary to protect Simon.
The walls of the grand house seemed to close in on you as you made your way out, the echoes of high society's hollow pretenses fading behind you, your mind now set on whatever came next—and the promise you'd made to protect your brother at all costs.
A/N: lololo i hope you guys enjoyed, my bby simon deserved more frfr 🥹❤️❤️
#xani-writes: simon basset fics#simon basset#bridgerton#saltfic#siblings#simon x reader#bridgerton insert#anthony bridgerton#bridgerton fanfiction#bridgerton x reader#eloise bridgerton#colin bridgerton#x reader
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I've never watched the show (I've only read the tvtropes page) but miraculous ladybug saltfics are fascinating as fuck. They're like the synthesis of those wattpad fics where Sonic's inexplicably an asshole who punches pregnant women, and those YouTube algoslop vyond animated revenge fantasy stories like TroubleBusters.
Like, they're all literally about one specific episode of the show based on the common kidshow filler episode plot where some new kid shows up to school and immediately befriends everyone except for the MC who tries to expose them because they're really this episode's villain of the week, but the MC ends up looking like an asshole who's just jealous.
But the MLB fandom has rabies or something because the second the episode ended they immediately went to AO3 and started writing thousands of fics about how the episode should of REALLY WENT and all of them are about teenagers being forced through SAW traps and having their entire lives destroyed forever, while the MC watches and gloats from her sixteenth golden yacht that fate just handed to her as a reward for leaving them to the dogs.
Also, they really have it out for the blond guy, so while everyone else is homeless, addicted to hard drugs, in prison for life, etc, the blond guy is locked in the torture chamber of the MC's mafioso uncle (that she suddenly has) being used as his personal torture-doll.
Really fucking hoping my interest in this shit wanes before I run out of tvtropes pages and have to start getting my fix from the source.
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idk how many times i need to say it but i'm allowed to hate on aang and i've got many reasons that i've spoken about before
#nightfalcon posts#anti aang#once again i must curate what i see#i'm about to throw my entire body in writing more saltfics so congrats
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*Sees an ml crossover*
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*OP is a salter*
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*Sighs and blocks*
#c's thoughts#ml fandom salt#can i for once see an ml crossover that isn't a saltfic nor made by a salter?
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After cyberstalking Marinette, Lila learns how close she is to Chat Noir. And she's known about Adrien's fanboy crush on Ladybug for ages. As Adrienette gets together, Lila hatches a plan to drive a wedge between them and, if she's lucky, get one or both of them akumatized. Manipulating rumors through their classmates so neither suspects her involvement, she manages to convince Marinette that Adrien is only with her because he thinks she's Ladybug, and make Adrien believe she's only with him because she thinks he's Chat Noir. Fortunately Lila has no idea how close to home she's hitting and would never in a million years believe either of them is capable of being Paris' beloved heroic duo. And much to her frustration this ploy only seems to bring them closer together. But now we have Adrienette both interacting under the assumption the other has figured out their identity without actually admitting anything out loud. Both of them are much more relaxed around each other and keep making jokes or references, including in Marichat or Ladrien moments, that should be tipping them off if they were paying attention. Tikki and Plagg are making bets about who will accidentally make a reveal happen first, and both are surprised about how long it's taking their oblivious kids.
They're morons I love them
#also i got flashbacks to saltfics where adrien only liked kagami because he thought she was ladybug#somehow
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Miracuidiots roast pt. 17
Miracusalter’s fics and similar hate content deadass remind me of brainrot YouTube content aimed for young kids. The mindless viewers unable to get themselves out of them, the parallels. 😬
Dang, some of these dumdums think criticizing characters is an excuse to hate them a lot…
No matter how well written a non-salt fic is (including Chloe & Lila redemption fics that don’t crap on others), the memory of salt fics piss me off to no end and is very hard to exorcise from my head.
I think ML should be on the “Fandoms acting mostly like a Cult” List due to stanning Marinette and bashing on others.
Oh what’s this? The likes on current posts here aren’t as high as 2020-21? And the kudos/hits on AO3 too? Whelp, people are smarter than your kind now lol.
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#demi4ngel#Roasting the miracusalters as much as I can#miracuidiots#miracudumdums#anti ml salt fics#anti miraculous ladybug saltfics#Miracusuckoffs begone#Anti Marinette Dupain Cheng Suckoffs#Anti Marirodeo riding and bashing others#anti miraculous ladyplaguedom#anti ml fandom#anti miraculous ladybug fandom#Anti Miraculous Ladycult Fandom#plumsaffron
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It would be fantastic and even fun if this happened in the show but taking into account the mediocre writing that the show has, I highly doubt that the writers would let something like this be done.
So is that just her own schedule and she was keeping it up to date with everything she knows about Adrien then? That’d honestly be a lot less creepy and a good explanation.
Still a bit stalker-ish having all that stuff about Adrien on there in the first place but it’s an improvement
Also that looks like the picture from the opening credits of Alya and Marinette where they have mustaches drawn on
#evil cackling#saltfic#pettynette#lila salt#miraculous ladybug#marinette dupain cheng#ml writing salt#ml writing critical
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For the record, I still think Alya telling Nino that she was still working with Ladybug in Rocketear, but just undercover, was something she had the right to do. Whether it was wise is debatable, given that Nino's not the best at keeping secrets, but that was primarily Alya's secret, and it was Alya and her family who would be in the most danger if it got out.
I was kind of happy when it happened, actually, because it showed that while Marinette mattered a lot to her, Alya DID have other priorities, other relationships she was balancing, and would make decisions for herself instead of just blindly following orders. I like it when Alya gets to be her own person, to take action based off of her own principles and convictions.
#alya cesaire#miraculous ladybug#Plus I've seen her horrifically vilified constantly for years#so ya know#I am going to defend her because nothing she's done could possibly justify the way I've seen her treated in ML saltfics#But even outside of that I thought what she did in Rocketear was fine and made sense#I just generally like when Alya takes initiative on things
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Rating: M
Relationship: Essek Thelyss/Caleb Widogast
Tags: Post-Campaign 2 (Critical Role), Pre-Campaign 3 (Critical Role), Torture, Modify Memory, Chronic Pain, Headaches & Migraines, Hurt/Comfort, Kidnapping, Whump, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Mutilation, Gaslighting, Hostile Work Environment, Unreliable Narrator, Brain Damage
Summary:
Essek is lucky to be alive. It can be hard to believe, with the scars he now bears. The Mighty Nein turned on him at the close of the war, and he barely escaped with his life. He defied fate to be here. At least, that is what Ludinus Da'leth told him, when he offered Essek shelter in exchange for his particular expertise. Essek’s own recollection is— Fraught.
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I guess the reason I’m so overly hostile to Marinette in salt fics is because I see her as a whole separate person from her canon counterpart. To me, the Marinette in the show, and the Marinette in salt fics like Karma of Lies and Two Letters, are two different people. I can’t reconcile the vengeful, self-centered wench SaltFic!Marinette with flawed but ultimately well-intentioned Canon Marinette. The gaping differences in their personalities, and the actions of Saltinette that are so heinous and beyond anything Marinette would even think of doing, have made it so I can’t possibly view them as the same person. I don’t want Canon Marinette to suffer too much, but SaltFic!Marinette, with all the horrible things she does, sometimes eclipsing even Lila or Chloe, is a entirely different story.
#miraculous ladybug#marinette dupain cheng#ml salt#miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir#miraculous salt#marinette salt#marinette bashing#salt on salters#salt on saltinette#salt on salt#saltinette salt#saltinette#saltinette is not marinette
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Dear sweet Heavens, you've actually made a palatable Maribat premise!
Marinette goes to Gotham (somehow), meets the bats and...
She gets the ego-check of a lifetime. No Girlbossing for her, no one indulging her self-pity, a reality-check about her privileged life, and a lot of questions about just how she's running her team and what she's actually done to try and stop (Butterfly Villain Name Here).
Forget all those tropes about Romance and found family, Bruce and the Bat-clan would be the superhero boot-camp she actually needs.
As for Adrien...
It's like you said: his entire life is essentially a pre-Batman Robin backstory.
Curiously, how do you think ml x batman would looks like? I feels like Marinette would packed her bags and back to Paris after she take one step out and see how Gotham is while Adrien probably would stick around longer and befriend the bat family especially Dick and/or maybe Damian.
I just can't see her stay in Gotham and try to 'girlboss' her way there when the bat family is around but Adrien... I feels like he'd get adopted by them, somehow.
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Look, the Gotham crew has had it up to here with one control freak trying to boss them around. They don’t listen to Batman, they’re not gonna listen to a 14-year-old girl no matter how she tries to gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss her way. They also would owe her nothing, since, unlike her previous allies, they don’t have to rely on her to be able to do their jobs.
I mean, this is how Alfred reacted when Bruce tried to pull a Marinette:
And Alfred does, actually, work for Bruce! The Gotham crew have no tolerance for self-pity. Marinette would get no coddling for her attempts at throwing a pity party for herself, and would leave such a “hostile work environment” very quickly.
Adrien is an abused son of a supervillain being gaslit by everyone who’s supposed to care about him. The Batfamily absorbs those types inevitably.
#It's been said before: for all the heat he gets from the saltdom- Adrien is actually the closest thing to a Robin in Miraculous.#The other good suggestion I've read though is one where he gets 'adopted' by Selina. Cat motifs and all that.#Their proposal was a 'vs' setup though- with it being set after a Saltfic scenario where Adrien got stripped of the ring. So Selina was...#... picking up her own apprentice to help counter Bruce's new selection of superpowered subordinates.#So not exactly Marinette getting that ego/reality check.
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Miraculous x DC Saltfic Prompt part 2 (:
Prompt by @kawaiichibiart
A quick just so you know, I did look up the legality of removing a child from their parents care in France, not sure if I covered it correctly, but yeah (:
As a reminder, this takes place at the exact same time as my last MLBxDC prompt.
Let's get into it!! >:D
To give some context for anyone reading this first: the Akuma class wins a trip to Gotham instead of New York. What the class isn't aware of is that Adrien is moving to Gotham in order to live with his new mother, Selina Kyle.
Back to the story, as I said, this takes place at the same time as the other MLBxDC prompt.
And it starts with Amelie meeting with an old friend, Selina Kyle.
Now, both these women have their strenghts. They know what they want and how to get it. Most wouldn't think of them as friends, but they are, it's true. And because they're friends, they will sometimes ask each other for favors, big or small.
When Selina visited, Amelie asked for her help regarding Adrien. She couldn't tell why, but she just had a feeling Gabriel was up to something. When her husband passed, Gabriel didn't let Adrien attend the funeral. When she and Felix visited, the Agreste Mansion felt cold.
Cold in a way that denied a child the care he needed. Cold in the sense that, despite the beautiful weather outside, being inside felt like the dead of winter.
And she didn't like it.
She didn't like how it felt. What her mind drew up. The image of her sister's child, alone, in a large, cold, building. The boy who had her son's reflection, starved for affection.
She needed to find a way to get him out. To get something on Gabriel. There had to be something. But he keeps pushing her away. Try as she might, she can only do so much.
This is where Selina comes in. As a favor, she agrees to help Amelie, starting, not with Gabriel, but with his employees.
Employees who knew Adrien more than Gabriel did.
Employees who also wanted Adrien out of Gabriel's grasp.
Employees who paid attention to things. To the days Adrien was pulled out of school, to the way he dreaded having to model with Lila Rossi from the start, to the way he just looked so, so tired.
It's easy to convince some of them to spill things. To say what they saw.
Were they worried about their jobs? Well, sure, but some of them were planning on leaving themselves, either to work for someone else or to work by themselves. So, why not admit things to this woman?? She's here to help Adrien.
After that, she decides to see if the local heroes will say anything, meaning Cat Woman was about to make an appearance.
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Now, remember when I said Selina and Amelie know how to get what they want? Well, apparently being an utter annoyance works. Because Gabriel, begrudgingly and relunctantly, let Adrien stay with Amelie for a while (a while being like, 1-2 weeks). While she'd rather it be longer, she accepted the time she got. And rather than have Adrien come to her, she went to Adrien. She still needs answers, and she hopes Adrien will give them to her.
Amelie and Adrien end up staying at Le Grand Paris, where Amelie will later end up introducing Adrien to Selina, and it's where she admits the real reason to her visit.
Legally, as his other guardian, she can petition the court to have Adrien removed from Gabriel's care. But she can't do that without evidence. As much as she'd love to just take Adrien away, this was as close as she could get. And in order to do this, in order to give Adrien the proper home and care he deserves, she needs him to be honest with her. To tell her the truth. To give her the word that she was right to do this, that her intuition was correct.
And it takes a while, but eventually Adrien opens up as well. Admitting his own fears and the trapped feeling he had. The way that sometimes, sometimes it felt like he couldn't disobey. Literally couldn't. Like his mind and body would freeze before he did as he was told, even if he didn't want to. He told her about Gabriel's inspiration book, being pulled out of school for simply losing it. He told her about way Lila Rossi barged into his room, into his life, and how it was hard to breathe at times whenever she was around. He tells her about a "friend" who wouldn't listen to him, who's grown distant, and he can't help but feel like he did something wrong. He's backed off, respected what they wanted, apologizes if he flirts a bit too much or does something that might make them uncomfortable, but why is he the one doing all the work? Just to be met by the same response just about every single time??
He just wants to be a normal boy. Or, well, as normal as he can be. But everywhere he went, if his face wasn't plastered next to him on a bigger scale, then someone would recognize him and point him out, leading to more people coming over. And more people meant more photos and autographs, and less time for what he wanted.
He's tired.
He just wants it to stop, but it won't, and just about everyone he's met thinks his life is so... perfect. That he actually enjoys it. That the attention, and fame, and not going to school or being pulled out for a shoot was all amazing, but it isn't!!!
It's not amazing, it's not fun, it's not...what it used to be.
It was fun. It was amazing. He did enjoy it. But...
It doesn't matter. Not anymore.
And while Adrien has his doubts about the petition, Amelie sees this as a reason to double down. To not only continue but to win. Time limit be damned.
She had about 2 weeks at best, 1 at worst, but she'll manage.
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With Adrien in their corner, it was time for Selina to talk to the local heroes.
Or, hero, rather.
And wow, does she wish her fellow feline had been the one to show up.
Ladybug...
Ladybug was a bag of mixed messages.
Cat Woman didn't know where she stood.
She admits Gabriel is a bad father, but Adrien shouldn't go into his aunt's custody because he has a life in Paris??
She admits Adrien would be better off in someone else's care, but not the Graham de Vanily's because they'd be just as bad as Gabriel??
It's like she just wants him to stay. She gets defensive over her reasonings, her face going red when she does.
It feels so obvious to Cat Woman that Ladybug has a crush on Adrien, so her wanting him to stay seems more likely to do with her own wants and desires, rather than Adrien's.
Seeing this as getting them nowhere, the Gothamite leaves. Hopefully she'll run into Chat Noir later.
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As the days go by and more and more evidence is collected, the two women decide it's to hit Gabriel (metaphorically, although literally is also okay, maybe later tho). They gather everything they can, hire the best lawyers money can buy, and take Gabriel to court.
Now, he has a decision here.
Either he agrees with their terms once they win, quiet Gabriel, they're going to win, and everything will remain relatively hush hush. Out of the publics eye for as long as they can keep it.
Or!!
He fights them on this and they make everything public from the getgo. News reporters numbers are ready to be dialed, to both publish the stories they've been hired to write concerning what his own employees, including Adrien, had to say, and to come to the trial to cover it live.
Amelie is here to win.
She has a lot of people in her corner. People who are against Gabriel Agreste. People who aren't blind to a man's neglect.
She knows that as much as he'd rather keep this private, Adrien will let this go public. If it gets him out of that mansion, away from Gabriel and out of his job, he will let it go public.
And while a small part of her wished Gabriel decided to go public with it, a larger part of her felt relieved they were going private.
If for no other reason than Adrien's sake.
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It wasn't easy. Far from it.
Gabriel fought against every bit of evidence. Every testimonial. Claiming his employees who spoke against him were just bitter and resentful. That they simply didn't like him.
Day after day went by.
Every day felt repetitive but worth it in the end.
It was worth the sleepless nights where she had to reassure Adrien that this would work out. That even if it didn't this time, it won't stop her from trying again.
It was worth facing the man her sister "loved" and watch as his defenses crumbled. As his excuses became just that, excuses. How it became clear that he was negligent, absent, and unfit to be a father. How he was emotionally manipulative, holding things his son held dear above him, ready to punish him by taking them away, threatening him by taking away the small amount of normalcy he had and limiting the little contact he had with his friends. How little he cared, pushing and pushing his son into this mold of perfection that wasn't achievable.
It was worth the look on Gabriel's face when he lost. When the jury and the judge ruled in her favor. The look of resent and badly hidden hatred. One that said he hadn't lost the war, just this battle.
But whatever, he didn't matter.
Not anymore.
Amelie had a new son to take home.
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Introducing Selina and Adrien to each other went better than expected.
Amelie was glad her friend was able to talk with Adrien without either of them needing her to be there. And she was glad Adrien seemed willing to actually talk considering what had just happened. He'd spent most of the past few days talking with Felix over the phone and thinking about how to tell his friends about things without risking things. He still wanted some privacy and talking about going into his aunt's custody wasn't exactly something he wanted just anyone to know yet. Eventually, sure. But not right now.
Selina was so good to Adrien. Answering his questions and telling him about Gotham.
It was nice to see the two get along. She never knew Adrien's more mischievous side hadn't truly died out. There was this bond between the two that started soon after she introduced the two. Looks that were shared, Selina somehow knowing when Adrien needed a break.
It almost felt like...seeing Emilie and Adrien again.
Maybe...maybe Selina would be willing to do one last thing for her before she leaves. Something Adrien would have to be around for because it was just as much his decision as it was hers. It might not be something they immediately agree to, but she's sure that at the very least they'll consider it.
She loves Adrien and wants him to have a good life.
And maybe, maybe that means staying with the woman he's grown close to so quickly.
But that can wait for a bit. For now, she has a train to catch and a son waiting for her and his cousin turned brother at home.
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And that's a wrap for this prompt.
Some bonus info I wanted to add but couldn't (it just didn't really flow in the prompt as well, but can be added to the full story):
• I wanted to have more go on in terms of Selina gathering evidence, like actually having some dialogue bits where she's talking with someone. Bonus if that person was either the Gorilla or Natilie, who both definitely went against Gabriel.
• Adrien and Selina's bond is referring to them meeting for the second time as Chat Noir and Cat Woman. It's easy for Adrien to open up to her and decide to reveal who he is when she tells him she helped with the case. It was a spur of the moment decision, but he doesn't care. And since he revealed himself, Selina saw no reason to keep her own identity a secret.
• While they were short on time for the case, Adrien does end up in Amelie's care for almost a month (2 weeks in Paris and almost 2 weeks in London). She's technically still his guardian, Selina being his mom is something they finalize roughly by the time his class trip to Gotham is announced.
• Not gonna lie, if you can fit in Amelie and/or Selina hitting Gabriel somewhere, be my guest.
• Ladybug definitely wanted Adrien to stay purely because she has a crush on him. While she does admit to Gabriel's faults, she also wants Adrien to stay in Paris. This ultimately makes her kinda untrustworthy in Cat Woman's eyes.
• Some of the evidence held against Gabriel was absolutely blackmail. While nothing about him having a miraculous is revealed, the fact he was spying on his son was.
• The battle being won but not the war is referring to Gabriel being certain that Adrien will be back in his care once he makes his wish. It's why he agreed to being taken to court. Yes, he's upset he lost, but ultimately he's sure Amelie's small victory won't matter because his wish will change things in his favor.
• Some of the money used to hire lawyers was from Bruce Wayne, who had vague knowledge of what was going on since Selina told him. He trusted that she was doing the right thing but still kept an eye and ear open. He wasn't going to be mad that Selina tricked him if she did, just annoyed because it would the second time this week this happened and he had no desire for the "I told you so" he'd get from his kids and Alfred.
• This has nothing to do with this prompt but my last one: Adrien keeps his miraculous, as decided by two (2) people. I am, however, open to him changing his costume and name later on. I, personally, tend to go with Matagot, but I want to keep this open.
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The "character gets blamed for something they didn't do" trope is my most hated trope that I hope dies off.
But Chameleon is one exception where I'm more annoyed with the backlash against the trope in the show rather than the trope itself.
#c's thoughts#makes me wonder what would have happened#if episodes like a pal for gary everyone knows it's bendy#or even sound and fury#would have aired today#i can just imagine fics similar to Chameleon saltfics
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