#ruler yudhishthira

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Warning: looooooong post with many old art ahead! A small break from Greek mythology, have some Hindu mythology instead! (Almost) all of my Mahabharata fanservants. It's time for Pand(ava)emonium!! .......... That sounded funnier in my head.

Berserker, Bhima (I made him before Bhima became canon and I'm keeping him because my Bhima isn't a Lancer!

Madreyas.

Lancer Yudhi.

Ruler Yudhi/Yudhi alter (Dharmaraja)

Caster Yudhi/Indonesian Yudhi (Puntadewa)

Caster Ghatotkacha (I will get around giving you a proper design one day!!!)

Archer Abhimanyu

Bonus: Ruler Krishna.

Miscellaneous:

The jewel on Dharmaraja's forehead is the very same jewel on Ashwatthama's forehead. It was ripped from Ashwatthama as punishment at the end of the Kurukshetra war and was given to Draupadi. Draupadi then gave it to Yudhi to wear.

Nakula's sword(s), Asi, was created by the Gods and has gone through many, many owners but it eventually ended up with Drona and then Ashwatthama after Drona's death. Buttttt then Ash was punished/banished and the sword was given to his maternal uncle, Kripacharya, for safekeeping. Kripa gave the sword to Nakula, who would eventually return it to Kripa when the Pandavas died. It's said Kripa still is caring for the sword (which is apparently sentient!!) until the day Ashwatthama comes back for it.

(Ash is very sick of the Pandavas taking his things...!)

The name of this file is literally "yama why" (alternate name: Yudhi is very tired)

There is probably some drawbacks being the son of the God of the dead and underworld... (Yudhi is my fav and that is why I like bullying him)

Mafia AU.

Yudhi is the boss (and he still hates his life). Dharmaraja is having fun though!

Bhima still the MVP

Nakula utilizes his reputation of being vain - people think he's just admiring himself with his pocket mirror but the truth is he's secretly using it as a way to check on the surroundings behind him.

Sahadeva is always ready to throw hands. Or stab someone. Or shoot someone. Whichever he deems necessary at the moment.

[ai-manre]

Jaya by Devdutt Pattnaik is the absolute worst trite nonsense, and this page is the best example of it. Let's compare with the real thing, shall we?

According to Devdutt Pattanaik, Krishna's reactions to the dyut sabha incident were as follows:

1) Jaya- Krishna to angry bheema "all five of you lost. All five of you must keep your word and suffer exile quietly. To keep your word is dharma." He says "you are responsible for rejecting Karna which has caused this."

In actual text (referencing KMG) Krishna: Respectfully saluting that foremost of the Kurus, Kesava (Krishna) mournfully said, 'The earth shall drink the blood of Duryodhana and Karna, of Dussasana and the wicked Sakuni! Slaying these in battle and defeating their followers along with their royal allies, will we all install Yudhishthira the just on the throne! The wicked deserve to be slain! Verily, this is eternal morality.'

Devdutt Pattnaik's Krishna scolds the victims and tells them keeping their word is dharma. But Mahabharata's Sri Krishna, burns and seethes at the act of harmful injustice! He is full of righteous anger and calls it the eternal morality for the wicked to be slain! His compassion and pain at the suffering of the victims is so apparent, so empathetic.

And what's more, he condemns Karna to death (as he should) for his horrible actions, not victim-blaming draupadi for that incel misogynist's molestation.

2) Jaya - Krishna to Draupadi: "you are responsible for rejecting Karna. A great warrior, he would never have gambled you. You chose Arjuna instead and look at you now."

Hahah the implication that somehow karna of all people is better than Arjuna!!

Let's see what the Mahabharata Krishna says in this scene shall we?

And when on account of the wrongs of Pritha's sons, Janardana had thus got into a passion, and seemed bent upon consuming all created things, Arjuna exerted himself to pacify him. And beholding Kesava angry, Falguna began to recite the feats achieved in his former lives by that soul of all things, himself immeasurable, the eternal one, of infinite energy, the lord of Prajapati himself, the supreme ruler of the worlds, Vishnu of profound wisdom!'

Arjuna has to calm down Krishna, who is soo angry at the injustice and cruelty that happened to draupadi and the Pandavas, that he seemed bent upon consuming all created things!

Continuing this, Arjuna narrates all great feats of Vishnu to Krishna to calm him down. At the end of his speech, Krishna says this:

Having addressed Krishna thus, the illustrious Pandava (Arjuna), who was the soul of Krishna, became dumb, when Janardana (Krishna) (in reply addressed that son of Pritha) saying, 'Thou art mine and I am thine, while all that is mine is thine also! He that hateth thee hateth me as well, and he that followeth thee followeth me! O thou irrepressible one, thou art Nara and I am Narayana or Hari! We are the Rishis Nara and Narayana born in the world of men for a special purpose. O Partha, thou art from me and I am from thee! O bull of the Bharata race, no one can understand the difference that is between us!'

Well well well, would you look at that? Instead of mocking draupadi for choosing arjuna over Karna as devdutt pattnaik shows, Krishna instead affirms his love for Arjuna in no uncertain terms, and declares that anyone who is arjuna's enemy is his own enemy, that they belong to eachother.

3) Jaya's Krishna says to draupadi "god does not hate you" (which btw sounds distinctly non-hindu, when do hindu scriptures ever speak of God loving us? Love is beautiful, but our gods' primary role is to preserve dharma and the law of karma) while also mocking her when she's at her worst situation.

What does mahabharata krishna say instead?

And wiping her eyes and sighing frequently she said these words angrily and in a choked voice, 'Husbands, or sons, or friends, or brothers, or father, have I none! Nor have I thee, O thou slayer of Madhu, for ye all, beholding me treated so cruelly by inferior foes, sit still unmoved! My grief at Karna's ridicule is incapable of being assuaged! On these grounds I deserve to be ever protected by thee, O Kesava (Krishna), viz., our relationship, thy respect (for me), our friendship, and thy lordship (over me)

"Vaisampayana continued, 'In that assembly of heroes Vasudeva (Krishna) then spake unto the weeping Draupadi as follows, 'O fair lady, the wives of those with whom thou art angry, shall weep even like thee, beholding their husbands dead on the ground, weltering in blood and their bodies covered with the arrows of Vivatsu (Arjuna)! Weep not, lady, for I will exert to the utmost of my powers for the sons of Pandu! I promise thou shalt (once more) be the queen of kings! The heavens might fall, or the Himavat might split, the earth might be rent, or the waters of the ocean might dry up, but my words shall never be futile!' Hearing those words of Achyuta in reply, Draupadi looked obliquely at her third husband (Arjuna). And, O mighty king, Arjuna said unto Draupadi, 'O thou of beautiful coppery eyes, grieve not! O illustrious one, it shall be even as the slayer of Madhu (Krishna) hath said! It can never be otherwise, O beautiful one!'

Look at this, this lovely relationships! Draupadi seeking solace in Krishna, ranting to him about evil people like Karna. Krishna consoling Draupadi assuring her that she will rule again and everyone who hurt her will die by Arjuna's arrows (love how he brings Arjuna into it!) and through his own machinations. Draupadi then looks to Arjuna for confirmation and he reassures as well while attesting that nothing Krishna said can be wrong. What a beautiful moment of friendship and recovery after such an ordeal! By people who trust eachother so much!

This wouldn't go for Devdutt Pattnaik though, might have interfered with his karna fantasies....

[stxrrynxghts]

I had a bit of an argument with someone long time back on this topic, and js wanted to know your opinions on this.

So, Yudhishthira has 2 wives, Droupadi and Devika, both of whom were princesses before marriage. Now, neither of the two are rulers in their own right, they are just consorts. The thing is, we know that Yudhishthira was Emperor, and Droupadi was the Empress. I am not very well versed in this topic, but I think mostly there is only one Empress, or Patrani, which is the primary consort of the Emperor, right?

The argument came in the topic that I personally felt that ok, Devika is not the Empress, but surely she had the title of QUEEN, at least? Her husband is a King and Emperor, and despite not being the Empress, I am sure the wives of Emperors who were not the chief consort, still had the title of Queen. The person who I had an argument with said that Devika was called Princess, surely, which kinda irked me, since Yudhishthira is not a prince anymore, he is a ruler.

If Devika is just a princess, then there is literally no difference between her, the wife of the ruler, and the other Pandava wives, like Subhadra, Valandhara, Karenumati etc., whose husbands were just princes, and not Kings.

What do you think?

[pandavapanchaliweek]

Day 1: Yudhishthira and Draupadi

To the Samrat and Samrajni!

The eldest son of Pandu and the youngest daughter of Drupada are a formidable couple, being the rulers of Indraprastha, and later Hastinapura. Their relationship is also one of the most fraught, with mistakes and betrayals, but also with trust and faith. They are the balance to each other's temperament.

What about this couple intrigues you? How does Draupadi work with her first husband? How does she manage to forgive him for his wrongs against her? Does she? How do they rule a kingdom together? How does their relationship develop through the long years of their marriage?

Day 1 of the event is here! I'm so excited to see what everyone has. Let's celebrate our lovely darlings.

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Servants I Want to see in FGO

Catherine the Great (Rider/ Ruler)

Saint Olga of Kiev (Ruler/ Avenger)

Tomyris (Lancer/ Rider)

Hua Mulan (Archer/ Lancer)

George Washington (Rider)

John Henry (Lancer)

Molly Pitcher (Archer)

Harriet Tubman (Rider/ Archer)

Mary Seacole (Caster)

Harry Houdini (Caster)

Judith (Book of Judith) (Assassin)

Abhimanyu and Vrishaketu (maybe Archer for both ?)

Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky (Caster)

Sybil Ludington (Rider)

Deborah Sampson (Archer)

BONUS

Yudhishthira (Saber) - but as a Lily version of himself so that he can be the pampered little brother for once and not have to put up with his younger brothers’ BS. Duryodhana tries to make fun of him for it and Yudhi goes running to Karna, crying. While Karna chastises Dury for making fun of him, Yudhi evilly smirks at Dury from behind Karna, who faithfully plays into the Big Brother role. EVERYBODY is aware that Yudhi is basically playing Karna besides Karna!

Inspo links: (1) @krishna-premi (2) @fanfictionroxs

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my 3 am headcanon is that the tribal ancient rulers yaudheyas started their dynasty from yaudheya–son of yudhishthira and devika from mahabharata and i don't want to stop believing that ;-;

[hasarjunadoneanythingwrong]

(A little spoiler from FSR collab) So, the mysterious turquoise guy (aka Ruler of Deviation) in SR collab is Yudhishthira(?) since he say that his class was supposed to be Lancer but he's summoned as a Ruler instead:

>??? Normally, Lancer's spiritual base would be appropriate... >??? This time however I appeared as a Ruler, an arbiter of ceremonies This guy shows up and says he is interested in the path the dead masters will walk but most importantly he's interested in Guda who he says saw and went to hell once or twice already.

Cue Dantes flashback. OC2 tease.

The examples this guy gives of (You) going to hell are: >Dantes >Ereshkigal >5.5 if you cleared 5.5 >LB7 if you cleared LB7 He says that once again (You) find yourself in Hell but despite that a radiance will probably shine on you again and he looks forward to see how (You) will resolve this.

honestly that all does sound very yudhisthira-y. the only thing that makes me wonder if it could be him is the fact pako didnt draw him- it really did look like all the mahabharata servants would be done by him, and though pako and hasendow did release an artbook together once i hadnt thought fgo themselves would break the pattern

it is still possible he's a buddist monk of some kind but...its very interesting

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I was researching about the armies of the Kauravas and the Pandavas, and when I was reading this fantastic answer (Names of the kings and their kingdoms who participated in Mahabharata war), I came across some intriguing stuff.

There are quite a few kingdoms that have split forces fighting on both sides of the war. Not including the Narayani Sena, that one's popular enough. The politics sure are intriguing.

Putting this under a cut so that it's easier.

Kekaya - or more specifically, the Kekaya brothers. They're mentioned specifically quite a few times on the Pandava side; the rest of the Kekaya army fights on the Kaurava side. I wonder why this split? The answer I linked above says the five brothers were "deposed of their throne", not sure where that's mentioned. Maybe it has something to do with their sister Bhadra? She was married to Krishna by her brothers. Perhaps the rest of the family was displeased with the marriage? Or there might've been another reason.

Lots of speculation there.

Magadha - this one's a bit intriguing. Sahadeva, the king of Magadha after Jarasandha (so crowned by Krishna after Jarasandha's death in 2.24) is on the Pandava side but there is another son of Jarasandha called Jayatsena who's mentioned a couple of times on the Kaurava side. More than Sahadeva, in fact. It may have been that Jayatsena was more inclined towards Duryodhana and thus decided to split the Magadha army.

But, if you read this, it's kinda confusing:

And the king of Magadha, Jayatsena of great strength, brought with him for Yudhishthira an Akshauhini of troops.

(Udyoga Parva; section 19)

Contradicts what I said, right? Sahadeva (not our Pandava bro but the Magadha one) is however later mentioned to be fighting in the war.

Maybe it was a name mix-up. Maybe the kings were still confused in the early stages before the war and then they made up their minds?

Intriguing, that.

Shivi - Shaivya (not sure who exactly he is, considering Govasena is the king of Shivi at this time, maybe a son?) is on the Pandava side, but if you look closely at the tribes on the Kaurava side you see the mention of Shivi again.

Now my opinion of this is influenced by SamratVallabhaa's book on Wattpad, but honestly her position is well researched and supported. Yudhishthira's second wife Devika is from the Shivi kingdom, so that would explain the Pandava side. The other is the location of Shivi itself.

Welcome, Jayadratha (bitch). He is mentioned to be the ruler of Sindhu-Sauvira, and occasionally Shivi. If you look at a map, the kingdoms are rather close by so it's not wrong to say Jayadratha probably conquered the two kingdoms and that's why there's another part of the Shivi army fighting for the Kauravas.

Hmm this is getting long. Maybe I'll edit later, but I quite like this. There's a lot of potential for stories here if anyone's interested.

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Why didn't Krishna stop Mahabharata?

One of the most profound verses of Gita comes in the 18th chapter. That one shlok, quite easily overlooked , conveys the entire gist of the Karma theory and Dharma.

Gita has ~700 shlokas. After delivering a counselling session of about 684 shlokas, that was to guide humanity over coming 1000s of years, Krishna tells Arjun in the 685th shloka

इति ते ज्ञानमाख्यातं गुह्याद्गुह्यतरं मया विमृश्यैतदशेषेण यथेच्छसि तथा कुरु।।18.63।।

“I have told you that you should need to know, now think about it, and do as you wish”

Krishna seems to be saying – Arjun, all I can do is guide you but I cannot own your action, nor your destiny. Nobody will come to enjoy the fruits of your action, neither will any prophet or son of God come to suffer your sins. You got to do that, yourself. Not impulsively, get to know, what you need to know, think through, contemplate, but then find your path, find your destiny.

The thing about our Gods is that they don’t try to control us! We are free to do our actions but have to have the consequence of it too. Krishna says that he can only guide, he can only show path, to walk or not, is our choice. Coming to Mahabharata, Krishna tried to guide Duryodhana. He became Shanti doot and tried to avert the war, but to walk in the path of Krishna or not, is the choice of Duryodhna!

“Do as you wish” he says. What he is not saying is of even more significance – he is not saying “I am God hence you have to do as I say or you will rot in hell”.

However, 

Lord Krishna did exhibit some of His powers to stop the war. For example, He exhibited the Virat roop to Duryodhana and co. This was an alert message to the Kauravas how much they would suffer provided they clash with Him and His devotees (Pandavas). But Duryodhana was adamant for the war. Actually Lord Krishna always gives the opportunity to choose. Even to Arjuna, He did the same after delivering the message of Gita when He asked Arjuna to decide whether to fight or not.

Now let’s analyse some more reasons why the war was needed.

Punish the evils - We should know the very purpose of Lord’s arrivals or incarnations to this world. He always comes to protect the saints, punish and evils and establish dharma. Before His arrivals, mother Earth had approached Lord Vishnu and asked Him to remove her burdens which she was carrying in the form of evil rulers. So the war was needed to eliminate the undesired powers like Duryodhana and then establish dharma.

Boons, curses and vows - If we see the earlier happenings, we will find so many characters had taken vows. For example, Bhima had taken the vow of smashing Duryodhana’s thighs, drinking Dushashan’s blood. Draupadi also had vowed to leave her hairs undressed unless Dushashan’s blood was brought to her. Similarly Arjuna had vowed to teach Karna a lesson for insulting Draupadi. Besides these, many characters were bound by curses and boons. Karna had the curses of his guru and a brahmana. Jayadratha had the boon from Lord Shiva that one day he could defeat all the Pandavas except Arjuna. So for fulfilling all these, the war was needed.

Teaching the world war is not the solution for any compromise- Lord Krishna wanted to teach the whole world that war is not the solution for any compromise. That is why after the war, Lord Krishna asked the king Yudhishthira to perform Ashwamedha yagna without indulging in any violence. Unfortunately many in today’s world didn’t learn this lesson and conducted so many wars resulting the death of so many innocent ones.

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PHALASHRUTHI

itīdaṁ kīrtanīyasya keśavasya mahātmanaḥ |

nāmnāṁ sahasraṁ divyānāmaśeṣeṇa prakīrtitam || 1 ||

Thus was told,

All the holy thousand names,

Of Kesava who is great.

ya idaṁ śṛṇuyānnityaṁ yaścāpi parikīrtayet |

nāśubhaṁ prāpnuyāt kiñcit sōmutreha ca mānavaḥ || 2 ||

He who hears or sings,

It all without fail,

In all days of the year,

Will never get in to bad,

In this life and after.

vedāntagō brāhmaṇaḥ syāt kṣatriyō vijayī bhavet |

vaiśyō dhanasamṛddhaḥ syāt śūdrassukhamavāpnuyāt || 3 ||

The Brahmin ( ANY person SEEKING KNOWLEDGE)  will get knowledge,

The kshatriya ( ANY person SEEKING  SPORTS GLORY/ BRAVERY ) will get victory,

The vaisya SEEKING WEALTH / ARTS, will get it,

Any simple person  exploring MULTIPLE aspects of life, seeking happiness  will get  Sukham / Happiness ,….

By reading the names of Maha Vishnu - Sahasranama

dharmārthī prāpnuyāddharmam arthārthī cārthamāpnuyāt |

kāmānavāpnuyāt kāmī prajārthī cāpnuyāt prajām || 4 ||

He who seeks Dharma,

He who seeks wealth,

He who seeks pleasures,

He who seeks children,

Will all without fail,

Get what they want.

The above verses clearly differentiated that the choice to SEEK  “ knowledge/ bravery / wealth / or simple unattached-happiness IS A CHOICE OF THE INDIVIDUAL.

In Vedic period the Varnas were not based on birth or family  BUT THE PATH CHOSEN OUT OF FOUR VARNAS WAS INDIVIDUAL’s CHOICE - NOT COMPULSION OF SOCIETY “

Variety of good and bad thoughts are explorations of God, through experiences of human beings.

No one / no role, is big or small

Similarly the rights of women and their freedom also discussed in detail in Anushasana

Parva by Bhisma and other sages of Vedic times

 Hindu society during the medieval times (and all societies of medieval times)  may have indulged in racism and exploitation. But Hindu society at the educated learned level has a lot of ANSWERS   to present day issues, because human mistakes have not been treated cruelly, but with understanding 

What is timeless Sanatana  is  the different colours of human thinking /  seeking.

What is the deluge of medieval times is the attempt to transfer all the rights of knowledge, wealth, territory, bravery to ONE”s OWN CHILDREN - even though the children may not be talented or worthy of it.

In Medieval dark ages Kings, persons with knowledge tried to keep other talented�� / brave people as eternal slaves. These talented subordinates were expected to support the not-talented children of kings, social leaders etc

Vishnu Sahasranama is part of Anushasana Parva of Mahabharata Epic 👇

Wiki Anushasana Parva:-

Anuśāsanaparva or the "Book of Instructions", is the thirteenth of eighteen books of the Indian Epic Mahabharata. It traditionally has 2 sub-books and 168 chapters. The critical edition has 2 sub-books and 154 chapters. Sometimes this parva is referred to as the "Book of Precepts".

Anushasana parva recites the final precepts on rule of dharma (law) by Bhishma to Yudhishthira. In this book, Bhishma dies and ascends to heaven.

Anushasana Parva continues the theme of Shanti Parva, a discussion of duties of a ruler, the rule of law, instructions on dharma for those close to the leader. 

The dialogue is between Yudhishthira, Bhishma and other sages. The book debates the duties, behaviors and habits of individuals, with chapters dedicated to men and to women.

Anushasana Parva (book) traditionally has 2 sub-parvas (sub-books or little books) and 168 adhyayas (sections, chapters). The following are the sub-parvas:

1. Dana-dharma Parva (Chapters: 1–152)

2. Bhishma-svargarohana Parva.

Chapter 134 of Anushasana Parva recites Vishnu sahasranama - a list of 1,000 names (sahasranama) of Vishnu.

Included in the list of 1000 names for Vishnu are Shiva, Sharva, Sthanu, Ishana and Rudra. This synonymous listing of Shiva and Vishnu as one, in Mahabharata, has led to the belief that all gods mentioned in Vedic literature are one.

All modern liberal societies should understand that till INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION happened few centuries ago in Europe, most of the people of the whole world were kept oppressed & illiterate to EXTRACT LABOUR, by rich, powerful, kings and clergy.

After Industrial Revolution the big rich people wanted educated and skilled workers for manufacturing at mass level and make profits.

Only after Industrial Revolution universal education was implemented in Europe

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“  although slavery was a worldwide institution for thousands of years, nowhere in the world was slavery a controversial issue prior to the 18th  CENTURY.   People of every race and color were enslaved – and enslaved others. White people were still being bought and sold as slaves in the Ottoman Empire, decades after American blacks were freed.

Everyone hated the idea of being a slave but few had any qualms about enslaving others. Slavery was just not an issue, not even among intellectuals, much less among political leaders, until the 18th CENTURY – and then it was an issue only in Western civilization.”

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About brothers of one land fighting and enslaving their own cousins

https://www.thejc.com/news/features/jews-and-slavery-the-myths-and-the-truth-1.501677?reloadTime=1670976000011

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If brothers and cousins fight and kill each other, without identifying the people who hate you, then everyone will suffer

“ Howard Washington Thurman (1899–1981) played a leading role in many social justice movements and organizations of the twentieth century. He was one of the principal architects of the modern, nonviolent civil rights movement and a key mentor to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

In Jesus and the Disinherited, Thurman recounts a conversation he had while on a six-month speaking tour of South Asia in the 1930s sponsored by the Student Christian Movement, a group co-sponsored by the YMCA and YWCA. At the time, India struggled for independence from British colonialism. After one of his talks, Thurman describes a conversation with a young Indian lawyer who made this observation:

What are you doing over here? I know what the newspapers are saying about a pilgrimage of friendship and the rest, but that is not my question. What are you doing over here? ... More than three hundred years ago your forefathers were taken from the western coast of Africa as slaves. The people who dealt in the slave traffic were Christians. ... The men who bought the slaves were Christians. Christian ministers, quoting the Christian apostle Paul, gave the sanction of religion to the system of slavery. ... During all the period since then [emancipation] you have lived in a Christian nation in which you are segregated, lynched, and burned. “

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J. Robert Oppenheimer, atomic physicist and head of the Manhattan Project, circa 1944.

Two views, starting with the short video. Followed by this article:

The Bhagavad Gita, the Bomb and the Dharma of Oppenheimer Syama Allard, the author, writes for the Hindu American Foundation.

On July 16, 1945, in the desert 210 miles south of Los Alamos, New Mexico, a nuclear weapon was tested for the first time. 

Recalling the scene 20 years later, J. Robert Oppenheimer, known as the “father of the atomic bomb,” uttered words he would henceforth be known for. Pale and emaciated for his 61 years, eyes gaunt, the physicist persistently avoided the camera as he spoke with emotionally subdued precision:

We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty and, to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, ‘Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.’ I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.

At the time, only a small number of Americans knew much about the scripture Oppenheimer quoted, though his hauntingly poignant delivery gave his recitation a special weight. The true impact its spiritual source had on Oppenheimer, however, and on the development of atomic weaponry, remained largely unknown.

According to James A. Hijiya, author of The Gita of J. Robert Oppenheimer, Oppenheimer’s interest in ancient Indian philosophy grew out of a rebellion against his own upbringing. Of Jewish descent, his family was affiliated with Felix Adler’s Society for Ethical Culture and sent young Oppenheimer to the society’s school in New York, where his father was on the board of directors.

Abandoning religion’s spiritual and supernatural aspects, the school taught the importance of human welfare based on a foundation of secular moral principles. It also provided excellent training in the sciences and classics, but Isidor Isaac Rabi, a physicist who met the young Oppenheimer in 1929, before working with him later on the Manhattan Project, said Oppenheimer was already seeking “a more profound approach to human relations and man’s place in the universe.” He appeared to have found this approach in the Hindu classics, which seemed to interest him even more than physics. 

In 1933, while he was teaching at Berkeley, his interest apparently reached new depths when he met Arthur W. Ryder, a professor of Sanskrit who taught Oppenheimer the language. Especially captivated by the Gita, Oppenheimer called it “the most beautiful philosophical song existing in any known tongue.”

Always keeping a well-worn copy of it near his desk, he gave the book to friends and regularly quoted passages, once at a memorial service for President Franklin D. Roosevelt. When asked by Christian Century magazine in 1963 to name the top 10 books that shaped his “vocational attitude” and “philosophy of life,” Oppenheimer listed the Gita, along with Shakespeare’s “Hamlet” and T.S. Eliot’s “The Waste Land.”

A 700-verse dialogue between an ancient warrior named Arjuna and his cousin Krishna (a form of Vishnu), the Bhagavad Gita is set on a battlefield at the edge of war.

Hoping to install his eldest brother, Yudhishthira, as ruler of a kingdom that has been usurped by their cousin Duryodhana, Arjuna is torn. Faced with the prospect of fighting an army filled with his friends and relatives, he despondently turns to Lord Krishna and asks if the throne is worth the price of slaying so many of his loved ones. Motivated by envy, Duryodhana might be in the wrong, but surely his crime doesn’t justify fratricidal bloodshed. Casting his weapons aside, Arjuna falls to the ground, overwhelmed with grief. 

From a spiritual perspective, the peaceful solution feels like the obvious one, especially considering the stakes. Yet Krishna, who eventually reveals himself to be a manifestation of the divine, actually chastises Arjuna, albeit lovingly. 

As a warrior, Krishna argues, Arjuna’s dharma, or sacred duty, is to fight, no matter what the outcome. While in life we can’t control the result of our actions, we can control our actions, and our best-performed actions are the ones most aligned with our nature. Just as the heart best serves itself and the body by performing its function of pumping blood, Arjuna best serves himself and society by performing his function as a warrior in the face of battle.

For him, the pacifist’s route — a route that isn’t his but that of a renunciate — isn’t selfless but the opposite, an action based on his own desire. If everyone discharged the duties of others instead of their own, the world would fall into disarray. Faith in the higher cosmic order dictates that all beings execute their responsibilities, even when doing so causes unhappiness or distress.

Inspired by these words, Arjuna asks Krishna to exhibit his cosmic identity, as a way of strengthening faith in the order he’s referring to. Pleased by his cousin’s change of heart, Krishna assents to the request and manifests a bewildering display of wondrous, brilliant and unlimited visions.

It’s at this moment, as an unfathomable radiance blazes from an incomprehensible form containing all that has ever existed, Krishna says the famous line, describing himself as the “destroyer of worlds” — not to instill fear, but to emphasize that ultimate destiny was out of Arjuna’s hands.

Gathering his senses, Arjuna prepares for battle, fulfilling his role to provide a providential end that has already been set in motion.

Understanding Oppenheimer’s quote in broader context, you can see how he, who had his own considerations of pacifism, might have quelled his doubts through the model of Arjuna. As Hijiya thoroughly conveys, the scientist very much determined his duties by his profession as a nuclear physicist, and made various statements in the course of making the bomb, as well as in the years after, touting the importance of following these duties. 

In 1945, he told his peers at Los Alamos, “If you are a scientist, you cannot stop such a thing. … If you are a scientist you believe … that it is good to turn over to mankind at large the greatest possible power to control the world and to deal with it according to its lights and values.” Going further, in a magazine article published during the same period, remarking on whether it was good to give the world increased power, he said, “Because we are scientists, we must say an unalterable yes.”

If it was his duty as a scientist to help create the bomb, he believed it was the duty of the country’s political leaders to decide what to do with it. When fellow Manhattan Project scientist Leo Szilard wanted to circulate a petition cautioning President Harry Truman against dropping the weapon on a Japanese city, Oppenheimer forbade it, saying the country’s statesmen had information the scientists did not possess and were therefore the most qualified to determine its proper use. 

Fate, Oppenheimer clearly surmised, was out of their hands. All they could do was play their parts to the best of their abilities, and allow others to play theirs. 

Despite his distaste for the violence and suffering the bombs caused, and despite his criticism toward furthering the nuclear arms program after the war ended, it should come as no surprise that in his final years, Oppenheimer said that if he could go back in time, he would do things the same way.

His lack of regret shouldn’t be mistaken for a willful hardening of his heart. The footage of him reciting the line from the Gita makes it painfully clear that the bomb’s success brought him no joy. Like Arjuna, he carried out the obligations of someone in his position, surrendering to a destiny beyond his own comprehension.

Swami Revatikaanta also discusses the movie for a few minutes in his opening..

[sankirtan]

Qualities of the Best Human Beings – Spiritual merit, not wealth, distinguishes the most honored persons in Vedic society. By His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada Lecture given in Los Angeles, May 17, 1973 Spiritual merit, not wealth, distinguishes the most honored persons in Vedic society. bhagavan api viprarshe rathena sa-dhananjayah sa tair vyarochata nripah kuvera iva guhyakaih “O sage amongst the brahmanas, Lord Sri Krishna, the Personality of Godhead, also followed, seated on a chariot with Arjuna. Thus King Yudhishthira appeared very aristocratic, like Kuvera surrounded by his companions, the Guhyakas.” —Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.9.3 Suta Goswami is speaking to an assembly of learned brahmanas at Naimisharanya. The meeting took place at least five thousand years ago. All those assembled were very learned scholars and brahmanas. Therefore they are addressed as viprarshe—vipra and rishi. Not only were theybrahmanas, or vipras, but they were also rishis. Rishi means saintly person. Some were rajarshi—raja, or king, and rishi. Anyone, even from the ruling class, can become a saintly person, provided he lives like a saintly person. It doesn’t matter whether one is a brahmana or a kshatriya. Kshatriyas are the rulers and soldiers. Generally brahmanas and kshatriyas, the first and second status of human society, can live as good at home as the saintly persons within the forest or the Himalayas. Earlier in the Bhagavatam these brahmanas were addressed as dvija-shreshthah, “best of the brahmanas.” A brahmana is already the best person, but if he becomes a saintly person, then his qualities become still more magnified. To read the complete article and/or watch the video please click here: https://bit.ly/3ndeAbJ

[vimoktsh]

vcsavi replied to your post: chin hands

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🤔 it’s really interesting to think about ? in a way ? im not sure how to explain it but i like that dual contrast they could have

[rakshabandhansblog]

First of all, we know why Raksha Bandhan is celebrated?

Raksha Bandhan is a Hindu festival. Which is a very special festival for a sister and brother. On this day sister ties Rakhi on her brother’s wrist and prays for her brother’s happiness and success in his life and on the other hand brother takes a promise to protect his sister. The festival of Raksha Bandhan is very sacred. For any brother and sister, this festival is no less than a celebration. Be it a sister of any age or a brother of any age, all the sisters tie rakhi to their brother and no matter how far away the brother is, the sister celebrates this festival by reaching her brother. Sister ties Rakhi around her brother’s wrist as a protective shield and feeds them sweets and brothers give some of the other gifts to the thegiftsister. Raksha Bandhan Purnima is celebrated with great pomp on the last day of the holy month of Shravan.

When is Raksha Bandhan in 2021?

According to Hindu classical law, celebrating the festival of Raksha Bandhan in the Bhadra-free period is considered auspicious. Raksha Bandhan is celebrated every year on the full moon day of Shravan month. Rakhi should always be tied in the auspicious time of the day. The time of Aparnaha is considered to be the right time to celebrate the festival of Rakhi. Tying Rakhi at the time of Bhadra is considered inauspicious, it is not considered auspicious for any auspicious work. Check the day before starting any important ritual. You can also check your monthly horoscope to check the day so that you get an idea of ​​how this month might turn out for you2021 i.e. this year the festival of Raksha Bandhan will be celebrated on 22nd August on Sunday. On this day you can tie Rakhi to your brother according to the Muhurta.

What is the auspicious time of Raksha Bandhan in 2021?

Shubh Muhurat of Raksha Bandhan in 2021 – This year, the auspicious time of tying Rakhi will start from 6:14 in the morning on 22nd August and will last till 5:33 in the evening. Its total duration will be 11 hours 19 minutes.Upar of Rakhi Muhurta – Will be from 1:41 pm to 4:17 pm. Its total duration will be around 2 hours.

How is the festival of Raksha Bandhan celebrated?

On the day of Raksha Bandhan, every sister applies tilak on her brother’s forehead, then performs the aarti of her brother, that sister ties a thread i.e. Rakhi on her brother’s wrist and feeds sweets and then brother gives some gift to his sister. Gives and takes a promise that he will save his sister from all difficulties, will stand by her in every situation and sister wishes her brother happiness, success and good health. This festival is a symbol of love, happiness, unity and traditions. This festival is celebrated with great enthusiasm in every corner of India.

History of Raksha Bandhan

On the day of Raksha Bandhan, every sister applies tilak on her brother’s forehead, then performs the aarti of her brother, that sister ties a thread i.e. Rakhi on her brother’s wrist Like everyone has a history. In the same way, there is a very good history of celebrating the festival of Raksha Bandhan. So let us know why Raksha Bandhan is celebrated? What is the history of celebrating Raksha Bandhan? There are many stories related to the festival of Raksha Bandhan which adds to its importance in Hindi religion such as:- and feeds sweets and then brother gives some gift to his sister. Gives and takes a promise that he will save his sister from all difficulties, will stand by her in every situation and sister wishes her brother happiness, success and good health. This festival is a symbol of love, happiness, unity and traditions. This festival is celebrated with great enthusiasm in every corner of India.

Goddess Yamuna and Lord Yama

Yama, the god of death, came to visit his sister after 12 years. His sister was very excited to meet her brother so she also prepared a grand feast for her brother with his favourite dishes. When Yamuna’s brother Yama came to meet him, Yamuna welcomed his brother with a tilak and tied a thread on his hand. Yama his brother was very impressed with him and asked the Yamuna about his favourite gift, on which the Yamuna Asking him to visit me regularly, Yama then blessed his sister with immortality and promised to save her from any difficulty.

Krishna and Draupadi

When Lord Krishna had cut off his finger on the day of Makar Sankranti, Draupathi immediately saw this and tied a cloth on his finger with her sari. Then Lord Krishna promised Draupadi to protect her from all challenges and difficulties, and this promise was fulfilled by Shri Krishna at the time of Draupadi’s chirharan. At the time of chirharan, Lord Krishna had protected Draupadi’s honour from the Kauravas by providing a sari to her.

Raja Bali and Lakshmi Ji

King Bali was a devotee of Lord Vishnu. One day when King Bali had prayed to Vishnu for protection, Lord Vishnu was pleased with his devotion. So Lord Vishnu disguised as his watchman and fulfilled his prayer. Goddess Lakshmi had discovered Lord Vishnu in Vaikuntha, so Goddess Lakshmi presented herself as a homeless woman to King Bali and went to the kingdom of Bali. sought shelter. Lord Bali being one of the kind rulers, welcomed and sheltered Goddess Lakshmi and in return, his kingdom achieved immense success. For the protection of Lord Bali, Goddess Lakshmi tied a sacred thread on his wrist on Shravan Purnima. Lord Vali then asked Goddess Lakshmi what she wanted as a gift. Then Goddess Lakshmi pointed to the watchman i.e. Lord Vishnu, then Lord Vishnu revealed his identity to Lord Bali. That’s when Bali requested Lord Vishnu and Goddess Lakshmi to return to their abode, but seeing Bali’s devotion, Lord Vishnu promised to spend 4 months in the kingdom of Bali.

The festival of Rakshabandhan is celebrated in the Shravan month of the Hindu calendar on the day on which Purnima reads in the afternoon, as well as the following rules should be kept in mind such as: –  This festival should not be made if Bhado has fallen during the noon period during the full moon. In such a situation, if the full moon is in the first three mahurtas of the next day, then it should be done in the afternoon of the next day with all the rituals of Rakhi. If the full moon is not there in the first 3 Mahurtas of the next day, then Raksha Bandhan can be celebrated on the very first day after the Bhado climb, in the latter half of the Pradosh period. However, in areas like Punjab, etc., the afternoon period is not considered very important, so Raksha Bandhan is celebrated there before the midday period. But according to Hindu scriptures, Rakshabandhan is not celebrated when there is Bhadra.

Worship method of Rakhi Purnima & Rakshabandhan Mantra

On the day of Rakshabandhan, sisters tie rakhi on the wrists of their brothers, as well as she prays for the happiness, prosperity and long life of their brothers. On the day of Rakshabandhan, a mantra is recited by sisters by tying Rakhi on their wrists, after which the pundits can also tie the thread of protection to the hosts. That mantra is:-

çॐ येन बद्धो बली राजा दानवेन्द्रो महाबल:। तेन त्वामपि बध्नामि रक्षे मा चल मा चल।। जिस रक्षासूत्र से महान शक्तिशाली राजा बलि को बांधा गया था, उसी सूत्र से मैं तुम्हें बांधता हूं। हे रक्षे (राखी), तुम अडिग रहना।

There is also an important story behind this mantra, this mantra is recited during the worship of Rakshabandhan. Once Dharmaraja Yudhishthira had asked Lord Krishna to narrate such a story, which would get rid of all the troubles and troubles, then Shri Krishna told him this story:-

In the Puranic period, there was a war between the Asuras and the Suras for 12 consecutive years. At the time of the war, it seemed that the victory of the Asuras was certain in war. The king of the demons had captured the 3 worlds and declared himself to be the ruler of Trilok. Then Devraj Indra, the persecutor of the demons, reached the refuge of Guru Brihaspati and prayed for his protection. Then on the morning of Shravan Purnima, the protection law was completed.

In this Vidhan, Guru Brihaspati recited the mantra. And at the same time, Indra and his wife Indrani also chanted that mantra. Indrani made all the brahmins infuse the power in the Raksha Sutra and tied that thread on the wrist of Indra’s right hand. With the powers derived from this sutra, Indra defeated the Asuras and regained his lost kingdom.

Another method of celebrating Rakshabandhan is also famous. On that day, women get ready for worship in the morning and hang gold on the walls of the house. After that women worship him with kheer and sweets. Then she ties a rakhi on gold. Women who put wheat earrings on Nag Panchami, keep that plant for worship, after tying rakhi on the hands of their brothers, they place the earrings on the ears of the brothers

[ahamasmiyodhah]

I do not see any valid reason of Yudhishthir being in danger from Pandavas. Why? The man was bound with the Promises and his Oath. A Kshatriya will die than break his oath. This is even relevant in today's time.

Raghukula reet sada chali aayi praan jaye par vachan na jayi.

This is not only applicable to Raghukula, or Suryawanshi dynasty. This applies on any Kshatriya family or clan or dynasty.

Yudhishthir was a Ruler. He knew about Dyuta. He knew Kauravas played dirty. He was angry. but he was bound, my dear. When Vedavyasa told Yudhishthir about the war, Yudhishthir vowed to do anything to prevent war between cousins. He believed that maybe putting themselves on bet would calm the Kauravas down but he didn't knew Kauravas were so lecherous and his own Jyeshtha Pitashree would agree to have his own Daughter-in-law dragged by hairs.

He had thought Kauravas will leave them, but when Kauravas crossed the Line he was mad as well. I feel he would have felt most grief and guilt because it was his own decision that Draupadi was insulted so. But when he realised that kuch log laato ke bhoot hote hai, he picked his weapons.

So no, I do not believe Narasimha would cast his fury upon Yudhishthira. Narasimha is omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, he knows how the Kauravas— the actual guilty party played dirty.

It's just my own opinion. I hope I didn't offended anyone here

So, me and @zeherili-ankhein discussed this briefly, and I want to know y'all's views on this idea, even if it is low-key stupid.

Draupadi prayed to God for help during the vastra harana, and Krishna gave her an endless supply of cloth. What if, instead of that, Narasimha had emerged from a nearby pillar? What then? Who else would have died?

I am sure at least Dushasana would be ripped into pieces, but I can see Duryodhana and Karna dying too. Perhaps even Shakuni and Dhritarashtra. I don't think all the Kauravas would be killed tho, and out of the Pandavas, idk, I can only see Yudi being in some form of danger. What do you all think??

@theramblergal @desigurlie @ahamasmiyodhah @priestessofuniverse @h0bg0blin-meat @randomx123

[hasarjunadoneanythingwrong]

Some guy says Yudhishthira might be a Ruler in the Ordeal Call chapter

And that guy was

Me babey!!!!

Though tbh fgo never does things sensibly so just bc bhima is showing up doesn’t mean that any of the others necessarily will be- we don’t even know where any of the order calls will be