#rubius k5

[tobby-s]

Moto mami BRUM BRUM

[valhalla-awaitsfor-us]

Hints that Q!Quackity might actually be K!Quackity:

Quackity used this image, a K!Quackity one, to pormote the stream.

2. Sapo Peta, a character played by Maximus, already made several cameos on QSMP. In Karmaland he was responsible for erasing k!Quackity and k!Luzu memories of each others, and also he is one who opened the portal to K4 at the end of K5. Portal that would send everyone to the previous dimensions they had been in (before Karmaland 5). For most of them that would mean Karmaland 4, but for a few, like Quackity, it wasnt clear where the portal would send him. And he even expressed his concern of not knowing where he would end up, before going through the portal. The final scene of Karmaland 5 shows everyone on K4, that includes not only Quackity, but also Vegetta and Luzu (And rubius too but we dont know if the angel/demon are infact k!Rubius). So is still a mystery why would the be on QSMP if they are indeed the same characters.

3. This Quackity ONLY speaks in spanish, just like k!Quackity

4. "What if we kill the president?" "What if we put mines on his house?" Both things were also said by k!Quackity when he tried to killed k!Luzu.

5. Look at how many servers he has open now. Servers or... worlds?

6. They way Quackity ended stream yesterday is the same way in which he would end up stream on Karmaland.

7. Trust me on this one…. When K!Quackity started planning the revolution against k!Luzu he got distracted and spend the whole stream watching memes involving wolves. It ended up being a pretty iconic stream for the hispanic community…. and guess what? Yesterday Quackity change his profile picture and tweeted this:

8. Quackity said a time ago that we might actually see Cochi and Beni again (K!Q cousins on Karmaland). Both character are represented by the colors Red and Yellow and it's was thought that maybe the spanish and english account had some connections with them

9.

10. Q!Luzu seems to rembember Q!Quackity

11. When Quackity mentions the Olympics to Forever out of the blue, he could be referring to the Olympics that were held in Karmaland.

11. This last point is not about k!Quackity, but rather about the other Quackity characters. In the stream of August 22 Quackity gave us various references to not only karmaland, but also other projects. From "Minecraft Extremo" with the waterdrop, to his speedrun with Rubius when he started sharing tips on how to build a house towards the end of his stream. (And also the lava mention. This also could be a reference to this speedrun or even Karmaland again, since Quackity burned in lava the last thing that connected him with K!Luzu)

So.... He might indeed be lost after all

[shikai-the-storyteller]

I've seen people saying Rubius never loved Vegetta and that Vegetta "finally has someone who loves him" and it's driving me insane, I don't even know much abt Karmaland but I know he loved Vegetta pls what is this misinformation </3

The easy explanation is they didn't watch Karmaland.

That's literally all it comes down to.

Everyone who's seen Karmaland, whether it's K5 or K4, know Rubius and Vegetta love each other. Hell even Roier, who was a fan before he was a streamer, knows this (hence the nod to Rubegetta in his presentation).

However, lots of people, particularly non-Spanish fans, haven't seen Karmaland, so they only know about incidents like the wedding second or third-hand. What people don't talk about is the aftermath of the wedding. The wedding didn't happen at the end of the series. Things between Rubius and Vegetta didn't end in tears and anger and betrayal. In fact, it happened (relatively) in the middle of K4. While there were undeniably hurt feelings, that wasn't the end of their friendship, or their relationship. They had many more happy, sweet, heartfelt moments, but people like angst so that's usually what gets talked about more.

Glay has a thread with translations of Rubegetta moments from Karmaland 4, which I highly recommend perusing if anyone's interested in learning more about their relationship. Like you said, there is unfortunately a lot of misinformation about them (and Rubius in particular). As I said it in a previous post, those two aren't toxic, they just need some therapy and need to learn how to communicate better. Rubius needs to learn how to let people get close to his heart without fearing they'll hurt him, and Vegetta needs to learn how to communicate his thoughts and feelings better.

But at the end of the day, this is an entirely different server. Technically nobody's past relationships should matter, but ripples of the past clearly still carry over. Friends in previous worlds are still friends in this one (ex: Roier and Mariana), and many relationships, both romantic and familial, carried over too (ex: Wil being Phil's son, whatever the hell's going on between Q and Luzu and Q and Wil, etc). The moment he saw Rubius, Vegetta gave him a kiss, and Rubius declared Vegetta as his one love in the song he sang for Vegetta's birthday, so it's clear that the love they had is still there. Whether Rubegetta is your thing or not, that fact remains.

Anyways, I'm always gonna be a Rubegetta fan, but I respect other folks' opinions so long as they don't try and spread misinformation or purposefully paint a character in a bad light for the sake of a ship.

I also want to take this opportunity to say I don't really care about shipping discourse. I think it's fun to discuss and analyze things, but I can't stand toxic fans who harass real people over fictional relationships. I'm very salty that so many Foo/getta shippers harassed Rubius so much that he hasn't logged on for an entire month, so if I seem a bit " :/ " towards that pair, it's solely because of toxic fans and not because of the cubitos, CCs, or regular fans. We're all here to enjoy goofy block man roleplay, everyone just needs to remember that and chill out.

[fndmrt]

The one thing I don’t see people talk about when it comes to Vegetta and his relationships is that in K5, he was ready to marry Lolito. He was in love with her and was willing to tie the knot despite his history with Rubius. Rubius dragged Vegetta around and left him for nothing, despite truly feeling something for the man. In the end, Willy and Vegetta were their last memory as they left their old world.

I think—in the end—he just wanted stability and the Gods dangled it right out of his reach.

[itsoverfeeling]

I do like k5 rubius *puts him in the shredder*

[piglin-union]

This is a great idea however some small notes:

-karmaland isn’t actually over! It works in “seasons” and the one where Q is depicted in is season 5! Season 6 has been discussed at length and everyone involved still wants to do it, it’s just been delayed a little because of schedules! And K!Quackity in this lore stream actually wasn’t to the end of his story in K5 yet, he’s canonically alive only with some missing memories

-Limbos aren’t really shown in the other servers from what I remember? I know there are definitely surreal ass areas and some areas are up for interpretation but not NEARLY to the extent as dsmp and are more so for artistic storytelling or are just straight up glitches rather than actual confirmed places/worldbuilding. In fact I think Karmaland has 0 mention of a “limbo” like that (I watched Q’s pov and a little of luzu + rubius) and while they do show an afterlife (during the Día de Los Muertos event) that NPCs go to after death, there’s no “limbo” or purgatory or in-between

However you could ABSOLUTELY be right here, that since they all killed themselves at the same time, they all landed in their limbo at the same time and it overlapped. That would make me wonder what the sirens were for then, like if it’s an ethereal plane that isn’t man made or run by people why does it need alarms. That sounds more like a lab or facility for me which is very interesting to think about, however that could just be How Their Limbo Works I Guess?

Since quackity said we can make theories about the finale he posted yesterday, i indeed have one. Im not that caught up on QSMP or Karmaland lore, but i will just guess that Limbos exist there too. (Please correct me if im wrong!) Since all of the servers have already ended, i think that the Limbos are kind of glitching out since no one can die or be revived. But all of the Quackitys managed to die at (almost) the same time, wich is why they ended up in the same, corrupted Limbo. As C!Quackity killed himself with the sword/knife, he disappears, as how i already said, the Limbo is corrupted.

[glitterstarly]

Before Karmaland ends I want to share with you this drawing I did of the family (yes the family for me it's canon they're a happy dysfunctional family 🤙✨)

[chris-spacehere]

Your tags on the post of mine you reblogged are so good!!!!!!!! I completely agree and also ty for bringing up stuff from the previous Karmalands I had no clue about all that stuff .o.!!! - Jinx ^_^

aw thanks :D honestly if you ever need an infodump about karmaland 4, im right here, i'm like the old wizard (sapopeta) of karmablr

[karmalandboxinmyattic]

August 15th, 2022 Karmaland

Here goes the big retelling of what happened today with Beanie Duo/Luckity/however you want to call it. Mostly because I've seen so many people freaking out about it and I know there are some english speaking fans that want to get the context of what's going on with Quackity's relationships in Karmaland so here goes nothing

(Under the cut because this is going to be SO long, lord help me it's late but I want to do this)

So big context before going on about what happened today.

First of all during Karmaland's 1st day one of the members got abducted by aliens (Staxx). A week later when he was rescued Vegetta777 started making jokes about Staxx being pregnant and it became canon.

During the week that Staxx was abducted Quackity by indirectly killed all of Rubius' pets. He ate an apple that spawned a mob that killed every living being that was around inside Rubius house and they could do nothing about it. Now this would've been fine if the mob hadn't killed 1.- The duck, which is a new pacific mob that they introduced in the mods this season and 2.- The pig. Every Karmaland season and in every minecraft server that Rubius plays he always has this pig called Juan Carlos. The mob killed both of them.

Quackity at first wanted to run away but at the end he decided that he was going to confront Rubius. Rubius didn't actually fight with him but told him that if Quackity built a bike shop for him Rubius would let him go unscattered. Now Rubius has not been the best to Quackity, every time he can he puts landmines on Quackity for him to blow up and he has stolen things from him before.

So at the beginning Quackity didn't want to say yes but at the end he did. He planned on making a trap below the shop, kidnap Rubius' new pets and kill them again in front of Rubius in defiance. He told Luzu about it.

Now, Luzu has always been a nice guy in general but the thing this season of Karmaland is that they don't remember last seasons/other servers they've been. So Luzu is generally nice becasue that's his personality but after what he went through on K4 he has this "need" to be dark/evil/protect himself from others.

However he has always had a soft spot for the new ones and that's why he has been nicer to Quackity and Illojuan than to everyone else. Mostly with Quackity tho. The other person he hangs out the most is Willyrex, but Willy is the complete opposite of Luzu. Willy has been putting mines and traps all around Karmaland this season only because he finds it funny. He has been trying to put traps on Quackity's house/steal his pets for a while but Luzu has been convincing Willy not to.

That until a couple of days ago where Luzu helped Willy put traps around Quackity's house. This because people are starting to catch up that Luzu is REALLY protective over him, to the point of killing anyone that hurts Quackity. While they don't really remember last season they have "hunches", last season both The Dark Brotherhood (a group that consisted of Willy, Fargan, and Rubius that were focused on destroying everything and cause chaos) and Lolito used someone that Luzu cared for to make him hurt. The brotherhood with Manolo (his pet pig) and Lolito with Auron (his neighboor/best friend/romantic interest). Now in K5 Rubius has mentioned before that he always sees Luzu and Quackity in fanart together, Willy always complains to Luzu about how he doesn't let him do pranks to Quackity, and even someone put a romantic luckity fanart behind Luzu's house. That's why when Willy asked him to put traps around Quackity's house Luzu said yes, under the condition that they weren't going to put landmines and/or destroy his house.

With that in mind, today there was an "event". It wasn't a big event like the fair, but it was a mini event. Staxx gave birth of an alien/monster thing and they fought against an alien that wanted to take the kid with it.

The thing was that Quackity found Willy's traps, that along a huge picture of Willy sitting in top of a canon aiming at his house, obviously a threat. Luzu told him that he had been the one that took the picture but didn't mention the traps, and Quackity had questions but didn't ask Luzu about it.

After the event, Luzu and Illojuan got into Rubius' bike shop and realized that the Item Scanner had stolen all of the iron and diamonds that they had with them. Luzu got REALLY mad because he knows (or at least senses) that Rubius is not a good guy, and demanded to get his iron back. Rubius didn't, told him that Alexby and Quackity worked with him on the shop and payed them what they had "earned" on today's sells (which the payment was Luzu's and Illojuan's iron) Luzu told him to keep the iron but he was going to blow up Rubius' house.

Quackity didn't pay much attention to everything that was going on with Rubius and Luzu (he was trying to get inside Staxx's house because a special trader was inside there) but he got together with Rubius, Alexby, and Staxx right when they were telling Titi (Staxx's hybrid son) to place 2 landmines on Luzu's doorstep. Quackity tried to make them stop but couldn't without showing Rubius that he was on Luzu's side so he had to let them place them.

He went to his house and on the way he found Luzu and Illojuan with canons preparing to blow up both Bear Bikes (the shop) and Rubius' house. He let them go telling them that he was in because he wanted to both get it back to Rubius, help them cover up, AND protect his trap below the shop to be seen, since he still haven't finished it but wanted to do it nonetherless.

When Quackity was on his house Luzu and Illojuan died from an explotion and Quackity said that he hadn't tell Luzu about it because he didn't understand why him and Willy were outside his house, there were some string loose on the story.

He went to Luzu's and explained what had happened with Titi and the landmines and went to blow up Bear Bikes.

As a side note Quackity has a blue scarf that can make him invisible, so when they blow up the shop he told Luzu and Illojuan that he was going to be hidden so that Rubius' didn't know it was him and keep his trust. The thing was that Rubius DID find out and saw and heard Luzu and Illojuan. Because Quackity had the scarf AND his armor Staxx found him so what Quackity had to do next was lie his ass off.

He told Rubius about what Luzu and Illojuan did but kept himself out of the story, telling him that he was hidden with the scarf. Rubius didn't believe him because why did he not do anything to stop them then and at that point Staxx found Luzu hidden behind his house listening to everything they were saying.

Luzu told Quackity to keep at it and they were going to talk later and sounded disappointed. So Quackity after trying one last time to talk to Rubius but couldn't because Luzu wasn't answering his private messages, he left them there and ran to talk to Luzu and explained what happened.

Quackity told him everything and Luzu, while still not trusting Quackity, still told him to pick whatever side he wanted, because playing the double game would make him lose. Quackity told Luzu that if Luzu told him to he would go in that instant to Rubius and tell him to go fuck himself if that meant he would have Luzu's trust back.

Luzu didn't say anything else after that, they talked to Illojuan and told him what had happened, and Luzu decided to give him the gift he had prepared for about a week now: A Skeleton Horse.

Skeleton Horses are an important part of Luzu's lore. In Karmaland 4 after Luzu was betrayed by his politic party, and his friends he decided to make The Horses of the Apocalypse. He planned on making then a group of people that was going to fight alongside him against the ones that had wronged him. Luzu has always been known to tamper into the dark arts so black magic was a given for his horsemen. Last season it was Luzu, Willy, Vegetta, and Rubius. Since right after making the horsemen (and kidnapping a couple of people) they couldn't do much more because Lolito lost his memories, and then a meteorite threatened the life of everyone in Karmaland, etc etc, they couldn't do much with the concept.

This season however it seems that Luzu still has Death as a horse, and the second gifted horse went to Quackity, Plague.

Plague DID die, however, asphyxiated on a wall like Quackity's seal Oi Oi, but in general it's the idea that he is a Horsemen now.

So believe me, there wasn't really a betrayal, it was mostly this two idiots wanting to protect each other but sucking at communication.

[glitterstarly]

And now k!Vegetta and k!Lolito are going to get married, rubius has no idea about it because he couldn't stream today, AND if that's not enough Alex sign a contract where after his death all of his things are belonging to k!Rubius including his house, his town and the church, meaning that in the worst case he's the ONE who will have to officiate the wedding = )

k!FARGAN WANTED TO MARRY k!ALEXBY BUT HE NEVER GOT TO CONFESS AND NOW ALEXBY’S DEAD- HE ONLY FOUND OUT THE FEELINGS WERE MUTUAL AFTER ALEXBY ALREADY DIED- DIDN’T EVEN GET TO BE BY HIS SIDE AS HE DIED-

[tobby-s]

[alien-girl-21]

this probably wont make sense esp. since im talking as someone whose only seen k5 and mostly through translations lol but it's like- k!Luzu hurts to watch because he's both doomed by fate and his own hands- mostly fate in k4 it seems but like that leads into him being set up to fail in k5 because he doesn't remember the full context of what happened to him in k4 so he ends up screwing over himself and his best friend- but also it's like- he could've stopped, he could've trusted Quackity to handle the mayoral position and respected him instead of acting behind his back, he could've supported his friend and tried protecting him without hurting him even if that felt riskier, he could've accepted that he fucked up and admitted to committing fraud, he could've resigned as mayor- when he's shown the video of all of his and Quackity's moments together it hurts but he still decides to keep going- but then again why would he back down when as far as his memories could tell him the pain he inflicted on Q seemed like a lesser evil then letting him become mayor even if it meant breaking their friendship and overtime his priority shifts from protecting Quackity from Karmaland to protecting Karmaland from Quackity and so he can't just give up now but-he doesn't realize or maybe just doesn't want to acknowledge that things at that it turned out this way because he betrayed him in the first place- that the fraud and everything that follows was all for nothing now. And the longer he keeps going the worse the war gets, but the worse it gets the more like Luzu feels like he's in the right for staying as mayor for the greater good even if it hurts- having strayed so far from why he even ended up here in the first place and like- BASICALLY It's like he was set up to fail from the start but he could've stopped but then again why would he at any point- his unhappiness in k5 is both his fault and not his fault like- omg I didn't mean to ramble this much I've just been thinking about k!Luzu a lot lately and it's driving me a little nuts this ended up longer then I wanted it to 😵‍💫 I wish I knew more Spanish to do a proper analysis on him (and the revolution arc in general) because his character is really awesome- I hope this was alright, I like talking about k!Luzu but the language barrier always makes me feel nervous to do so LOL (Also I just want to clarify I'm not like absolving k!Quackity of any blame here because uh he did a LOT of fucked up shit and I share a lot of general sentiments that I brought up here with Luzu with him- like they're both were screwed by shit out of their control but also like neither are totally blameless for their suffering- I have a LOT of thoughts about k!Q too, but I just felt like focusing on Luzu's side of the story rn because of the k4 posts lol and this ask is long enough 😵‍💫)

I accidentally wrote way too much, dorry

K!luzu is soo tragic once you start thinking about it ngl

Since karmaland 4 he did nothing but help people. Someone needed food? He was giving them as much food as he had. Vegetta wated to tame a cat but didn’t have meat? Don’t worry, luzu will let himself be stabbed so vegetta can have his cat, and so on and so forth, He has the biggest heart during the beginning of the series, not only for the heroes, but for karmaland as a whole. Hell, I mean, his house got blown up like 3 times in one day and he didn’t even bat an eye and forgave the people that put the mines there, even if he lost his pig, Manolo, for a while during the commotion.

He said that he wants to be positive and help everyone else in karmaland. He loves doing good things for his friends, he has an entire episode dedicated to cooking his friends’ favorite foods! And when rubius told him it was part of his electoral campaign he said that no, it was because he loved his friends.

I guess one of the most tragic things looking into k4 after knowing what happens after the elections and everything that goes on in kv are his interactions with the hermandad oscura and his first therapy session with auron. Since the hermandad oscura was formed, they have been trying to get luzu to their side, they have blown up his house, stole his pig, and made him steal so they could give him Manolo back. Thing is, luzu never acts exactly how they want him to. They blow up his house? Oh well, he’ll patch it up. They steal Manolo and ask for ransom that has to be stolen? He’ll just put a lot of signs saying he’s sorry in the most nervous way possible while taking one diamond out of fargan’s chest. It’s impossible to make him do evil in one way or another, and they are tired of it.

When they give him Manolo back, they say: “we have seen there is darkness inside you (…) someday, you’ll know more” which he does have, he has that darkness inside him, and it comes out after the election, and it goes full blast in kv. But they try once again, to get him to their side 2 episodes later, when they swap the fake Manolo for the real manolo:

Luzu: there’s no bad blood (between us) after this mishap. But I think we could make a deal because of this. Hermandad oscura: We’re going to do something we normally don’t do, Luzu. There is evil inside you. L: (snorts) okay? HO: We’re granting you a pact. You can do one evil thing. L: You mean I have to do something evil? HO: No, you can tell us we can do something evil, and we will do it. L: This is a lot of power; I have never thought of something like that. HO: The consequences will be yours. L: Okay, so you will be the instrument for whatever evil I want you to do? HO: Exactly. L: Can I say it now? Because I have an idea. HO: Yes. L: Well, I don’t know if you know, but there’s a new Karmaland member (…) There’s a new member in Karmaland, Auronplay, he just started, and I think it would be funny —I don’t want you to hurt him— I want you to do something to entertain him, to welcome him to Karmaland like the rest of us. I think it would be funny for you to block his house and make a treasure hunt to find something, with different tramps, so he has to fight for his life… what do you think? HO: It’s a good idea, but it’s your idea. Everything that happens now is your fault. L: Okay, but don’t kill him, if he dies make sure it’s his fault, not yours– mine.

So, the hermandad oscura does as Luzu tells them, and auron has to do his little quest for some items that the hermandad oscura put in a chest with a code lock in, and every single sign left blames luzu for what happened. But they end up making up after it, so it’s like nothing ever happened in the first place. No matter what they do until before the elections, it doesn’t work.

Then, during his first session with auron as his therapist, they have many moments that just punch you in the face.

Auron: I’ve heard you are a very kind-hearted person, that you are one of the few that enters conflicts and is always smiling (…) that’s what they say, that’s why I’m asking, why are you here?

Luzu: I don’t know if you’re heard, but there’s going to be elections in Karmaland for being the mayor (…) the elections are coming up, and I’ve been feeling this pressure that grows, that I didn’t realize before (…) you know I’ve been preparing my campaign and some friends have betrayed me during this (…) I think that (everyone should have) free choice, you know? Everyone has to be the person they want, but of course, I think: what did I do wrong? What did I do? Because, of course, I made my friend react that way, so I don’t know what I did wrong and I want support so I know how to take this campaign. And if I become mayor, it’s because of you helping me with the pressure…

So yeah, he wants to be mayor, but he feels the pressure, and it’s even more when mangel, who was meant to be the creative director of the campaign, decided to form his own political party. And then you look at luzu in kv, he’s constantly saying to quackity that he shouldn’t mess around in politics, that it’s not worth it. Which I think lines in with what auron says next:

“This is a tricky subject, my father always used to say: ‘never talk about football and politics on the dinner table’. I have to say politics creates many betrayals, many enemies, it’s tricky, and you knew what you were getting into”

What does luzu say to quackity whenever he brought up running for mayor? That it’ll destroy his life, that it’s not worth it. In kv luzu accidentally became auron, he did not only become the therapist of karmaland, but he was saying stuff that auron had once told him to quackity, the naïve kid with a dream (in luzu’s eyes).

Luzu was betrayed, someone decided to step up last second in the election and run along-side luzu, his friends voted for them; his friend left him behind for the other guy because he had power. Luzu was failed by everyone he knew and he fucking snapped. He had flashbacks to this in kv, and that’s why he repeated his own history, to save quackity from what he thought was going to be a fate worse than dying.

Luzu is just surrounded by a narrative that’s always against him. He tries to do good; he tries to be positive, he tries for people to like him, see him as a friend. But it always fails, people think he’s the hermandad oscura, no way a guy is so nice just because; he gets betrayed in the thing that meant the most to him because of the need of power. But he still does good, I mean, if it wasn’t for him the members of kv could have never gone back to k4. Even in kv, if he didn’t trust anyone, he still helped them out, he was still there in all the events being friends with everyone.

Mucho texto, so I will finish with: tl;dr: k!luzu is doomed by the narrative and the narrative lets you know like it’s a slap on the face and I think cc!luzu should be praised more for his storytelling skills <3

[tobby-s]

[glitterstarly]

The mayority of my favorite moments are on the tags but I had to write this because this will blow up your mind

Did You know that Karmaland 4 predicted not only the genres, but the fact that luzu and Willy were becoming fathers? By the time the mod Comes Alive was introduced Willy was one of the first one in making offsprings, and his first kid was a girl called Aurora, while the only child of Luzu was a boy called Lukas? :D (btw everyone thought Luzu would call his son Lukas because he let us know he really liked that name *thanks to Star wars*)

  Actually, Karmaland 4 has predicted many things that have happened after the series "ended" related to the boys or things beyond them, which I find really curious and funny, huh

karmablr I wanna know your favorite moments of the season like both in roleplay and just general fandom moments, I'll go first and mine was that I learned luzu had a child on the first karmaland stream and subsequently had to stand up from my chair and ponder about how time works

[tobby-s]

[tobby-s]

La puerta de Vegetta