#robert’s rebellion

[amber-laughs]

robert’s rebellion series but in keeping with GRRM’s “no king pov policy” we watch robert’s rise through jon arryn’s eyes a parallel to catelyn’s horror in watching her son’s royal rise and fall but this time robert rises and rises while jon gradually realizes they picked the wrong man for the crown

no rhaegar or lyanna pov either. we’re stuck between whatever they see fit to tell elia, arthur and benjen. all contrasting in what they think they know or how much they believe what they were told. the readers are as confused as the realm.

[snowvism]

or was it the grieving sister, the lady ashara? she threw herself into the sea i’m told. why was that? for the brother you slew, or the child you stole?

based on a meeting on the turret stairs

[bardsansa]

queen cersei lannister, at her wedding to king robert baratheon i, 284 AC.

visenya and rhaenys, alyssa velaryon, the six wives of maegor, alysanne, aemma arryn, alicent hightower and rhaenyra i, helaena, jaehaera, daenaera velaryon, daena the defiant, naerys, myriah nymeros martell, aelinor penrose, betha blackwood, shaera, rhaella

[fromstormsend]

Westeros children during the Robert’s Rebellion;

-Prince Viserys of House Targaryen 🐉

-Tyrion of House Lannister 🦁

-Renly of House Baratheon 🦌

-Edmure of House Tully 🐟

[chachamaru-sama]

🐺🥀🧊Lyanna Stark 🧊🥀🐺

Prince Rhaegar loved his lady Lyanna, and thousands died for it.

[daenerysstormreborn]

It was Aerys' fault. Dragonestone was the safest place for them. It was not him who brought them to kingslanding.

There is no one person at fault. To say it is Aerys’s fault alone is just as wrong as saying it is only Rhaegar’s, Tywin’s, or Gregor’s. The tragedy of Elia and her children may have been avoided if any one of these men had acted differently. Had Rhaegar acted differently he may have been able to prevent his family from being brought to King’s Landing. If Tywin hadn’t ordered the murders, they almost certainly wouldn’t have happened. Had Gregor and Amory not so being gleefully willing to kill an innocent woman and her small children, they may have been able to survive. Aerys created the situation; Tywin, Gregor, and Amory killed them; and Rhaegar failed to be there for them. Doesn’t mean that there is no honor in Rhaegar wanting to save the realm from the Others. He’s a fascinating character. It’s more worth talking about what Rhaegar could’ve done to protect them because, of all 5 of these men, he’s the only one who would have. His relationship with them was dysfunctional but I do believe he did care for them. That sets him apart from the other culpable characters. He cared enough to let Elia in on his council and even tell her about the prophecy to some extent. If rumors are to be believed, he cared enough to try to get rid of Aerys. He still could have acted with more caution to ensure the safety of his family. If he could hide Lyanna in the tower of joy, he could’ve hidden Elia and the kids. Being on Dragonstone is not hidden when you are married to the prince of Dragonstone.

[polysucks]

When you show her your battle nun figs thinking she can’t match your freak but now you’re wondering if she’s ever seen the sun and you’re not even sure how she got in your house

[gothgleek]

Some doodles of the ladies of House Dayne based on all the fashion headcannons by @15-lizards

[goodqueenaly]

With the recent question question about Lyssa Tully potential marriages I looked at your archives regarding Edmure and found a potential match with the Leffords and gaining protection with the Western flank at Golden Tooth. My question is do you think the Leffords would have joined with the Tullys if this happened when war broke out or would fear of Tywin Lannister make this impossible?

I think it’s worth keeping in mind that Edmure was no more than 12 when Robert’s Rebellion broke out, and perhaps as young as eight. Therefore, even if Hoster had been eyeing a marriage between Edmure and a Lefford daughter - and I do think he could or would have considered such a marriage - it’s extremely unlikely that such a marriage would have actually taken place or gotten past the negotiation stage, much less taken place, by the time Aerys II effectively declared war on the Starks, Baratheons, and Arryns. Edmure might have had a would-be fiancée or a promise to marry a Lefford in the future, but this would only have been a betrothal between children, incomplete and able to be broken - or, more to the point, not quite as politically binding as a full dynastic marriage can be (though not always is).

In that sense, I doubt either the Tullys or the Leffords would have acted differently from how they did IOTL when it came to Robert’s Rebellion. Indeed, though Hoster Tully himself had strong feudal reason to join the rebel faction during the war from its outset - given that at least one if not two of his own Mallister bannermen had been unjustly murdered by the king alongside Rickard and Brandon Stark - it was only with the promise of a double wedding for his daughters to two of the great lords leading the rebellion that Hoster actually committed “the swords and spears of House Tully” for the rebel cause. I could see where the Leffords may have felt similarly - that even if they anticipated their daughter marrying young Edmure and ruling as Lady of Riverrun, such a promise or anticipated betrothal would have been too loose a connection at the moment to act independently from Lord Tywin (who, of course, would eventually march in favor of the rebellion anyway).

[amber-laughs]

honestly the rebellion did nothing but tear siblings apart. lyanna and ned on opposite sides of the war leading to a rift between ned and benjen, ashara and arthur losing each other, lysa slipping deeper into her resentment of catelyn, the final nail in the coffin for stannis and robert, hoster and the blackfish parting, cersei and jaime delving deeper into their sick ways, oberyn fleeing westeros forcing him and doran to grieve their sister on their own never healing

[tell-them-the-north-remembers]

Okay but do you all ever wonder what Lewyn Martell thought about Elia marrying into the Targaryen family, being plunged amongst the chaos of the court he knew so well? How did he, a Dornish man, a Martell Prince feel when his king refused to touch his niece's daughter because she "smelled Dornish" while his niece was bedridden for months after giving birth to her? What was it like feeling his dead sister's hands on his shoulder, knowing that he was the only one Elia could wholly trust in this city far from home, knowing he needed to protect her or nobody else would? What did he think when Rhaegar named Lyanna the Queen of Love and Beauty in front of Elia, an insult to his niece, an insult to his house, to his family? What did he think when the war broke out and Elia and her children were kept as hostages so he would have to secure Dorne's support for the Targaryens? In his final moments on the Trident did he think that his sister would hold him accountable when he arrived at her side, ask why he couldn't protect her daughter? Did it eat him up from the inside to know that one day the Mad King could give a command that would harm Elia in such a way that he would have no choice but not to obey?

[testydragon]

I’m a certified Rhaegar hater but blaming him for Elia and their children’s death feels… off. Like in the big picture sure, Rhaegar’s actions kicked off the rebellion that resulted in their deaths.

The murder is treated as an act of UNNECESSARY cruelty and spite, even in universe. People say that Tywin ordered it in revenge for Cersei not being chosen as Rhaegar’s wife. Robert’s endorsement of it is a black mark on his reign. I genuinely think that Rhaegar believed if he lost, not unreasonably, at the very least Elia and Rhaenys would’ve been safe. And I realized as I thought about it, and the reason I made this post, is that politically? It’s really fucking stupid.

Elia is a complete non-threat. She’s not Targaryen. She presents no threat to Robert’s reign. All her death does is sate Tywin’s wounded pride, and anger Dorne.

Keeping Rhaenys alive is, if anything, a boon? If she’s kept alive, she can be eventually married to Robert’s heir, further strengthening his claim.

Now Aegon, as a boy, is a sticky situation. But not “murdering an infant is the only solution” sticky. He could’ve been kept as a ward until he was of age to join the Faith, the maesters, or the Watch. Keep a close eye on him, and you’re fine. If you’ve been listening to Tywin too much, maybe you could geld him for extra insurance.

Murdering Elia and her children is bad optics at a time when the realm’s stability is in question and you’re overthrowing a guy for cruel and unjust killings. If Robert had any moral fiber and a functioning brain cell, Gregor and Lorch would’ve been executed or forced to take the black, he would’ve distanced himself from the Lannisters, and tried to marry a Martell cousin or ally.

TDLR; Robert’s really fucking lucky Doran’s revenge plan took like, almost two decades to materialize

[gauntmanor]

they say hotd made the dance into rhaenicent fan fic and maybe it’s true, but this is what would happen if i got my grimy little paws anywhere near a robert’s rebellion adaptation… this isn’t a threat, it’s a promise

[aconiteflowerart]

lyanna…my first asoiaf love

referenced from a performer at my local ren fest, who is one of the most beautiful women i have ever seen

[xxpeppermintxx109]

my asoiaf fics - glbh | taw | tdod | tdmhth

« by all accounts concerning the tourney for the wedding of prince jacaerys velaryon and lady baela targaryen, prince qoren martell of dorne won princess shaera velaryon’s hand and favor, but the court fool mushroom claimed it was the one-eyed prince, aemond targaryen, who won her heart and bed »

- writings of archmaester gyldayn and maester yandel

« when news of his sister reached him at the trident, rhaegar targaryen supposedly cursed to the old gods and new that jaime lannister would meet his end on rhaegar’s blade. and when rubies spilled in the trident, some claimed it was rhaenyra on rhaegar’s lips—his last melancholic song, just like the ones they sang to one another to forget their father went mad »

- stories and songs surrounding the silver prince and his beloved, good princess

« your brother was a fool, little dove. the young wolf, they called him—the young wolf and his bastard witch. if there is anyone to blame it is only themselves »

- cersei lannister to sansa stark

« that bastard boy reminds me greatly of a knight i once fought alongside, khaleesi. though, i struggle to remember if he is more like the sword of the morning, or the kingslayer, and i fear for any poor soul who faces him »

- ser barristan selmy to daenerys targaryen

« be wary of mance rayder’s son, snow. there are wildlings, and then there are wild men; the only freedom he cares for is that of his own life. the others may accept you and turn their suspicions away, but if you have even a moment of fear, that man will tear into you like a wolf to a rabbit »

- qhorin halfhand to jon snow

[daenerysoftarth]

god when we pass by the spot where robert slew rhaegar on the trident in agot, it’s so interesting how grrm purposely told it through arya’s pov as she’s the youngest pov character besides bran, so as a result this moment lends itself a sort of legendary quality in time. robert’s rebellion happened So Long before arya was born that it might as well be one of Old Nan’s stories about bran the builder or nymeria the wandering queen, and it’s clever to sort of ingratiate the reality of this feudal system through the lens of a child in this way. for her, this is all the world has ever been. Rhaegar has always lost at the trident. The Targaryens have never ruled the iron throne. Robert has always been king. then ofc over the next several books grrm picks apart this world that’s been constructed so carefully around her, and shows how vulnerable and fragile it is. it shows how the ghosts of the rebellion are living, breathing people like daenerys targaryen and, later, jon snow. and so she passes by the spot where rhaegar died on the trident without a second thought because that’s always been where rhaegar has died, always where he was going to die, and yet the ghosts of what could have been continue to haunt all of westeros