#relationship: Adrien Agreste & Tikki

[part-time-pixie]

Miraculous - Winx AU 🦋✨

Imagine all the cute pixie designs for the kwamis, fairy outfits and the ROMANCE 🥺 

I’m so dedicated to work on this more once I finished a few of my WIPs!!

[what-am-i-doing-in-this-fandom]

You know this image? Yeah, it's literally them

And their kwamis are the exact opposite

[just-walk-around]

I don't know if is because I'm aro but I really will prefer that in the miraculous ladybug show the relationship between Adrien and Marinette were more like friends or family than romantic.

Like the writer kind of fucked up with Adrien character, most of the shady shit he had pulled was glossed over.

Nothing make more happy that reading a fic were this is deal with and they start over with a better founding. For example:

Adrien is a lonely sad boy that is working hard in moving on with his life after his mother death,he is the perfect son to a father that is mourning, his dad don't need to worry about him messing around (maybe if he works hard father will be proud of him, maybe if he hides his "flaws" he will look at him with love again). But staying in the house is hard for him (too much memories) his work as model and the other extracurriculars distract him but he doesn't know how to be "normal" teenager, doesn't know how interact with others outside of professional areas and his only close relationship is Chloe, but going to public school with help him, he will met more people of his age, he just needs to be perfect there too and people will know that he is worthy of it . He is naive and he could come as the classic rich white boy but he is trying. He "falls in love" with ladybug but in reality he just wants someone to see him without the perfect boy glasses and still stay with him.

Chat is the part of Adrien that he hides because is silly, goofy, unperfect (not worth of love) he knows that's a great responsibility but this is freedom too and they need to hide their identities so is good to act the less like perfect boy Adrien. Sometimes goes too far, he forgets that being a hero is serious that people are counting of him to save the day but he has a good heart, he's young he can learn and be better. He jokes to calm himself down and for the fun of it. He knows when to do it and when he needs to be serious.

Plagg is a God, he knows the value of chaos and the need of destruction to create , everything needs a balance. This human boy is young, he is reckless (he don't know what his life is worth anymore), he is naive (he needs guide), he will be a great black cat he just need some work. But the boy not need another "adult" ordering him around he needs to learn how to make decisions for himself, he don't need more strict rules and nagging. Plagg knows how to work with any type of human, he had being doing for centuries, (he started to lost hope in the humanity's), he had worked with cruel humans that try to abuse of his power they regret it in the end he makes sure of it, this boy is just another one that he will have to guide(in the end this boy became one of his best user his memory will be forever part of him, to remind him of hope and change for the better)

Marinette is a hardworking girl, that choose to be kind to put people needs before her(she was conditioned for that be a the teachers that think she should catter to the more privileged). Ladybug is someone that people will look for answer and help she can do it, she will sacrifice her life and dreams for the rest (she had already do it).

Tikki is a goddess, she knows the value of the order and how creation could bring destruction. This young girl will be a great ladybug she already knows of responsibility and sacrifice (that is so sad, to learn that to such young age is a tragedy itself) but she needs to learn to said no, to work in her needs because she keeps going like this she will burn she will not grown. She is chaotic (work fast to not disappoint, who cares what she lost in the way) she is nervous ( she is scared what if she fail? ) she doesn't know what to do with her feelings (they never matter in the first place).

Tikki knows what she needs to do, but this young girl needs someone to teach her the balance of life. She knows that the mission is important that Noroo needs helps but Hawkmoth is dangerous and her user will work until her dead to stop him, but she-is-so-young and Tikki doesn't wants to lose another one (not again, not again please) so she will help the best she can.

So yeah I think that in this point the fans only lives on the head cannons.

[di-daynamic]

@fluffbruary Day 24

Marinette’s groan was muffled by the pillow.

“Oh, Marinette,” Tikki said sympathetically. “You need to calm down. I’m sure you’ll get it done by Christmas!”

“No, I won’t, Tikki!” Marinette wailed. “It’s impossible! And my head – just – isn’t – working!” She banged her head on the wall with each word.

“Marinette!” Tikki said severely. “Be kinder to yourself! Art is difficult, and sometimes you just can’t get inspiration. It’s alright. You just need a break.”

“A break?” Marinette snorted. “Right, Tikki. I only have five more Christmas presents to finish, another commission from the website, three orders to deliver, a speech to prepare, and of course, I need to man the shop and keep an eye out for akumas at the same time!” At the list of all the things she had to do, despair filled her and she pressed her head into her hands.

“Okay,” Tikki decided. “You need to learn to organize.”

“What?”

“Marinette, Alya is your backup as class representative. Can’t you ask her to write you a speech and help you practice it tomorrow? It’s three days away. You have time.”

“I - yes, but she’s busy with her blog, and—”

“You’re busy too,” Tikki interrupted. “If not, ask her if you can work on it together tomorrow during lunch. Perhaps Nino and Adrien would help as well.”

Marinette hesitated. “I don’t know, Tikki. I don’t want to impose—”

“When Alya brings the twins or Nino’s brother over for babysitting suddenly, do you think she’s imposing?” Tikki asked severely.

“Of course not. She’s my friend and it’s not—” She broke off, realizing the hole she’d dug herself into.

“Marinette, you have to learn to delegate,” Tikki said softly. “You can’t carry the whole world yourself. You’re not Atlas.”

“I know – wait,” Marinette said, astonished. “Did you know Atlas?”

“That’s beside the point!” Tikki exclaimed defensively. “Text Alya and ask her.”

“You can’t say something like that and expect me to just drop it,” Marinette argued, even as she picked up her phone and typed out a text asking if Alya could at least write up a draft of the speech, backtracking several times and following through only because of Tikki’s stare.

Within moments a Sure thing, girl, I’ll write it, I have loads of ideas! lit up her screen.

Tikki preened with satisfaction.

“Oh, stop looking so smug,” Marinette said without any heat, relief at losing one of her responsibilities soaring through her. “Now to get back to the needle and thread,” she said without any enthusiasm.

She hated it, but there was no inspiration for a design. The thought of picking up the needle filled her with dread. She loved designing and she loved making clothes, but sometimes, like now, she felt she’d rather do anything but that.

Tikki looked disapproving. “Do you feel like you’ll make any progress?” When Marinette didn’t answer and instead resignedly began to try to thread the needle, she added: “Marinette, you already spent an hour and a half on this. Why don’t you try to get something else done while the inspiration is gone? Maybe some time outside will get you out of the rut. I’ve known plenty of artists for whom that has worked.”

Marinette looked up with interest, setting the needle aside. It did seem like a good idea. “Really? Like who?”

Tikki sniffed and dove into Marinette’s purse as she got ready to go down. “I’m not allowed to tell you, sorry.”

“That’s a pity,” Marinette said with genuine disappointment, thundering down the stairs. “Maman!”

“Marinette?” Her mother looked surprised to see her. “What is it?”

“I’m ready to go do the deliveries,” she said.

“Are you sure?” Her dad asked concernedly. “You said you would be busy with other projects all day. We were considering going ourselves, or hiring someone else.”

Marinette made a face, grabbing the packages and kissing her parents on the cheeks. “I’m having a bit of artist’s block.”

Dad looked sympathetic. “Creating art is always difficult.”

Her mother patted her cheek fondly. “Maybe a break will help.”

“That’s what Ti—thought! That’s what I thought! Bye!” She rushed out before she could give up any secrets. She strapped the packages to her scooter, and set off to Nadja Chamack’s place first.

“Oh no,” she groaned. She’d just delivered the second package, practically across the city, and had spent only fifteen minutes inside. In that time, a snowfall had begun. A warning rang out on all news screens, to stay off the roads. “Tikki, what am I going to do?”

“I’m not sure, Marinette,” her kwami replied. “You’ll have to stay put.”

“I haven’t even finished the deliveries,” she griped.

“No one can blame you for that during such a sudden storm,” a voice came from behind her, and she spun to see green eyes she knew very well.

“Chat Noir!” She exclaimed in happy surprise. “What are you doing out? Is there an akuma?”

“Nope,” Her partner sounded as cocky as ever, swaggering towards her. “I saw a princess out alone in distress, and thought I had to step in.”

“Oh, are you my knight in shining leather?” She batted her eyelashes at him, and saw him laugh.

“Something like that,” he agreed. “May I escort you back home then?” He asked, holding his hand out to her.

Marinette bit her lip. “I still have one delivery to make. . .” She fretted.

Chat Noir frowned. “Your parents won’t mind if you miss one in this weather.”

Marinette shrugged. “They won’t, but I will. I don’t like leaving a job undone.” Even now, her fingers twitched at the lack of control she had over the speech she was supposed to make in a few days.

Chat Noir was giving her an odd look. “Alright. I can help you make it, and then take you home.”

Marinette lit up. “You will? Thank you, kitty!” She kissed his cheek.

Chat Noir … blushed? Shifting from foot to foot. “Yeah, uh, no problem, Marinette.” He took her arm, made sure the scooter had been parked safely in the free parking space (which made Marinette’s heart skip a beat at how thoughtful he was), and then leaped into the air using his stick.

Marinette laughed from the sheer thrill and joy of it. “You know, I thought people would be more scared or sick when I took them like this,” he mused as they landed on the roof.

She didn’t know how to tell him it was only because she was used to the sensation of being hefted around with him or with her own yoyo.

“Well, I’m hardly ordinary,” she quipped in a distraction, but to her surprise, he glanced at her and his whole face softened.

“No,” he said quietly. “You certainly aren’t.”

Unsure what to make of that, Marinette stared at him. He blushed and turned away. “Your delivery’s near the Grand Paris Hotel, right?”

“The next building,” Marinette nodded.

“Great. It’s on the way to your house from here.” And sure enough, within twenty minutes Chat Noir had her on her balcony.

“Thanks, Chat Noir. There’s no way I would’ve gotten that done half as fast without you,” she said, leaning against the railing. The snow was still falling thick and fast. “I need to tell my parents I’m back and that I made the deliveries.”

“Yeah, of course. And don’t worry about your scooter,” he said. “I’ll get it tomorrow and bring it here.”

“You will?” Marinette blinked up at him in surprise. “Wow, I er. . . didn – I mean can’t – I mean don’t know what to say.” She stammered, feeling her heart pound.

Chat Noir grinned arrogantly. “You don’t need to say anything. Your feelines are written all over your face,” he purred.

Marinette snorted. “Whatever, kitty.” She turned to go down, but slipped over the sheet of ice and snow coating the balcony and braced herself to hit the ground when Chat Noir easily caught her.

“Easy there, Princess,” his chuckle vibrated through his chest, and Marinette squeaked. He was strong, she’d always known that of course, but there was something about being held in his arms, pressed up against him, that made him seem all the more solid. “Maybe I need to accompany you down there to make sure you don’t grievously injure yourself.”

“Maybe you should,” Marinette breathed before she actually thought it through. As soon as she heard what she said, she had a full blown panic.

Chat Noir looked as taken aback. “I should?” He echoed in bewilderment before composing himself. “Well of course I should. Glad you’ve seen sense Mademoiselle,” he took off an imaginary hat and waved her forward.

Marinette smiled as she felt her anxiety melt away. This was Chat Noir, her beloved partner. There was no one around whom she felt more comfortable.

“In the middle of a project?” He asked interestedly when he saw the state her room was in.

Marinette cleared her throat in embarrassment. “Something like that,” she said. “I’m trying to make Christmas presents for my friends, and some were easy, but some just won’t come out right.”

“Well,” Chat Noir said as they jumped down the door. “Maybe I can help you.”

“I’m sorry, kitty,” Marinette said mock solemnly. “But I don’t think you could.”

“Why not?”

“Have you ever looked at yourself in the mirror in costume? Your fashion sense is terrible. All leather, leather, leather, and not even the tasteful kind,” she clicked her tongue, not mentioning that she found him very handsome.

Chat Noir gasped in fake horror, putting a hand to his chest. “You have mortally pawfended this cat, Marinette Dupain-Cheng.”

“You have nine lives, don’t you?” Marinette said dryly. “I’m sure you’ll be fine.”

She heard him laugh delightedly as she opened the door of the kitchen and saw her parents worriedly whispering. “Did you just make a cat pun?!”

“No, of course not!” She denied defensively, as her parents cried out in relief and ran to hug her and wring Chat Noir’s hands in thanks.

The cat just smirked at her as her parents forced him to stay for dinner, winked and mouthed: “Course not, Princess.”

[mickeljewel]

Sabine looked at her thoughtfully. “Something has occurred to me, that I’m sure can’t possibly be it. But if it is…. Tom let’s sit down.”

The family of three sat down at the kitchen table. Sabine continued to eye Marinette’s purse suspiciously.

“I don’t know where to begin,” Marinette said.

“Is Adrien Chat Noir?” her mother asked.

Marinette blinked, surprised. “How…?”

Sabine sighed, “You’re sneaking out. You’re saying “Chat Noir and I”. You’re calling Adrien kitty. You’re saying Adrien is in danger and simultaneously that his father is Shadow Moth. You’re talking to something in your purse. If I recall from the Ladyblog… there are creatures called ‘kwami’ who give superheroes their powers correct? You’ve had Alya, Nino, and Adrien coming over weekly for several months. And last week I saw you chatting with Luka too. You’re saying that you and he need to protect Paris.”

“But the magic should stop…”

“It’s okay,” Tikki said again.

“So, you must be helping Ladybug and Chat Noir,” Sabine finally stated.

Marinette’s eyes went wide shocked, “That’s what you get from that?”

Tikki giggled.

“So you figured out Adrien is Chat Noir… but not who I am?”

“I assume you’re one of the temporary holders…. Although I’m not sure who….” Sabine stated.

“Maman.”

“Yes.”

“Look at me.”

Sabine blinked.

“Papa,” she turned to Tom.

“Really look at me. Of the superheroes… who do I look like?”

They exchanged glances and shrugged.

“Maman. Papa,” she stared at them.

Tikki spoke up loudly, smirking,

“Who’s Chat Noir in love with?”

Marinette glanced down at her purse, blushing wildly.

Sabine thoughtfully stated, “Well I know he was in love with Ladybug; he even told me so… but if he’s Adrien, then I know that he’s clearly in…”

And then Sabine’s eyes went wide, and she gasped covering her mouth,

“Of course. Because if Chat Noir is Adrien…. And you’re calling him kitty…!”

Tom still looked confused.

Sabine put her head in her hands, “I almost wish you had a normal teenage problem…”

Marinette chuckled nervously.

Tom looked between them.

“What? What’s happening? My daughter is associating with Chat Noir… who if I recall is the guy who totally broke your heart? Why are you hanging out with him?! He hurt you, Nettie. He loves another girl. Wait. You just said he was Adrien...”

“Papa….”

“Tom—Let’s not be angry with Chat Noir, er Adrien... I think he just fell in love with Marinette differently…”

“What do you mean…? Fell in love with her differently?” Tom asked.

“He fell in love with my other side. But it’s more important that…” she tried to redirect the conversation away from their tangled romance.

“Your other side?”

“Yes. Just like I fell in love with his other side….”

“What?”

“Papa…. I’m Ladybug.”

Tom blinked.

“I am Ladybug. And Adrien is Chat Noir.”

Sabine stared at her, still shocked hearing the truth spoken. Tom on the other hand, was dumbfounded. His mouth dropped and he froze.

“Tom? My love?” Sabine turned to him.

He was frozen for a few more moments and then his eyes fluttered rapidly.

“My Marinette… is…. Ladybug?”

Marinette awkwardly chuckled, “Hi?”

[ilikelookingatthings]

Honestly it frusterates me SO MUCH. like arguable before the retcon...Mari was definitly obsessive and kindof stalker at times and crossed lines and had a idealized version of him in her head...but we also saw the issue was based on how she handled her crush.

Adrien's issues directly contrast hers. he flirts to test the waters to see if LB likes him while mari wants to go all in for confessing from the get go but can't make any moves becuase she cares too much and gets nervious. Mari didn't realize how serious chat's feelings are for her are until he spells it out directly to her civilian side becuase she gets nerves and can;t act on her feelings and chat tends to be fine being goofy and a dork around LB instead of freezing up.

Adrien tends to be TOO forward with his feelings. it burst out of him with poor timing at times or him trying to get any attention....to contrast mari who holds TOO much BACK. she is just as intense but behind the scenes..collecting info on his scheduale or his likes and dislikes and making presents and mari backtracks or lied about her motives so adrien doesn't know her feelings.

Adrien also values friendship more because he hasn't had many and he was homeschooled so getting friendzoned is a foreign idea to him..while mari in public school knows of teh friendzone and often complains about wanting adrien to like her back the same way immediately. Not realizing that feelings can be BUILT UP TO or change.

People sincerely have crushes on mari in the show for who she is...nino, nathaniel, luka, chat for a few examples...while chloe clearly is worried about losing adrien and oesnt seem liek her feelings are ACTUALLY romantic, lila just wants him for the fame and doesn't care about him as a person, and the show tried to invalidate kagami's feelings for adrien.

Mari tended to avoid adrien and mix up words where alya and others often had to bring a opportunity up for adrien to jump on or to get involved around mari...while Adrien/chat was good at making the first move.

Adrien has learned due to how he was raised that holding back won't get him anywhere when it comes to feelings and that he can't rely on other people to validate his feelings on his own. HE has to be the one to bring it up...and especially due to his mom going 'missing'/getting sick..adrien values being open and honest with feelings while he can.

while mari due to the normal bullying(before the retcon) would make sense why she might be a bit insecure to some degree about wanting a guy she likes to like her back especially when she had a bad first impression with him on her end.

one of the things that mari admired about Adrien was his ability to be emotionally vulnerable even when circumstances would make anyone hesitate...like him going to her, despite her jumping to conclusions and judging him, during the gum incident and being honest and even being understanding about WHY she jumped to conclusions.

Adrien as chat had to deal with having a crush ON HIS OWN. he couldn't squee about it to his friends ...heck even plagg made sure to either pop his bubble or tease him ..being nuetral at best to not let adrien's hopes get too high becuase adrien is naturally more positive ....heck adrien couldn't even ask for advice properly or find out where he was going wrong in approach his crush who he had a limited time to see.... unlike mari who had tikki and her family and almost all the classmates supporting her and who could gush out in the open all she wanted.

We see times he makes mistakes...him trying to imply that him and LB are a thing casually to make theo back off while acting causual like he is doing theo a favor by bringing it up... where the show immediately points out adrien was in the wrong to do this by having theo get akumatized into copycat and adrien knowing immeidtaely it was his own actions that caused it, plagg teasing him about it, the city chasing him, him getting humilated and captured trying to solve it on his own...and the fact he was lying being a main foctor in tricking theo into losing where LB admitted to thinking it was clearly a lie and showing she hadn;t been taking ANY of his feelings seriously...the show directly pointing out and punishing him for getting ahead of himself...while mari often acts on her jealous more directly...seperating adrien from chloe in bubbler, acting on it when it comes to kagami, and acting on it with lila as just a few..where its not really pointed out enough that mari stops herself from acting on it despite not being his girlfriend.

Him being foward is also understod due to not having any time outside of akuma attacks to hang with her often but they also point out he;s wrong if he feels entitled for her to be there(glacatiour hich was him projecting his issue with people assuming his feelings would match whats convient for them and ignore he;d obviously have a right to be upset...from his dad onto LB until she validated his right to his own feelngs where he then apologized and said she didn't owe him to come)...and even in frozer when he seemed to try to get LB jealous..he relaized he couldn't just expect her feelings to change...and he couldn't expect his own to change over night either...so he decided to give up on changing targets....but that also meant LATER when he did try again with kagami that kagami WASN'T just a changed target..as even a akuma sensed his interest. Adrien got closure and was honest about his feelings...not even lying to himself about them being gone but chosing to decide how he would feed in platinically even in the newyork special....contrasting mari who had pushed adrien an dkagami together on her OWN when they all just wanted to hang as friends...and who then tried lying to herself that she was over adrien despite that not being the case and her assuming chat was just trying to get around her saying no with the flower even though he DID mean it for friendship.

even the breakups had luka be really understanding of mari choosing to breakup with him while kagami no longer wanting to be friends with adrien..where mari was allowed to cry about her relationship..while adrien who is used to things not working out and knowing he can't tell kagami the truth uses his crush on LB to distract himself...no longer the focus being on wanting LB to like him back...but having someone he can express feelings for saftly cuz she had made it clear where they stood and it was part of their banter.

heck something I had noticed was Adrien had held back on admitting things were bothering him as chat to LB because he knows LB was going through alot...eveb though HE was going through quite alot as a civilian just like mari was...but mari/ladybug was allowed to vent....not just to alya but she acted out as LB due to her emotions infront of him as well(ah the move theater incident)..where chat was trying to check up on her and cheer her up..but it never occured to mari to check on chat's feelings(not helped that he was hiding his issues from her).

heck even Mari then used her feelings for adrien to distract her from her problems and make herself feel normal and like she wasn;t giving up being a normal girl...using him as a bit of a coping mechanism...

saying things like adrien is perfect, adrien wouldn't steal, adrien wouldn't have to lie like I do ect....liek mari who was clearly the more cautious one back in origin who worried aboyt taking up the mantle contrasting adrien who jumped into ot he didnt even listen to all the rules..and how she needed more encouragement due to thinking she messed up to get back into it..while chat had jumped in despite messing up and encouraged this stranger fighting with him...mari getting intese about her crush ad then looking up more info becuase when you like someone you want to know more...while indulging it feeling closure while not making herself vulnerable herself by collecting information from afar...it makes sense mari would start putting adrien more on a pedistal for a while and treat adrien like a celebrity crush no matter who sincere the first reason she liked him was.

heck adrien has a more accurate view of ladybug(who doesn't hide her positives or negatives from him) AND marinette who he sees stand up for what she believes in infront of him for the others classmates and who had stood up to him that first day and who he gets to see as chat as well. where he is very open about thinking highly of BOTH sides of her...

while Mari tends to have more tunnel vision and thinks she knows both adrien and chat the best but has kindof put them in boxes in her mind....(I'm thinking especially of the aspik episode) and how she struggled to see them as the same person without luka pushing her in that direction...mari is more stubborn and jumps to conclusions faster...she often gets distracted thinking of chat as silly or not serious...even though he often CAN be serious in battle and is pretty reliable and sincere and she KNOWS that..but often forgets.

The show directly points out the issues of adrien/chat being too forward and how he handles his crush on her.....but the show often side steps to some degree that mari had been treating adrien as a celebrity crush and that adrien was falsly believing mari was seeing him with unclouded eyes as a friend first...and that mari tends to avoid tough conversations while adrien tries to approach the topics first.

ALL they had to do was have adrien find out about mari's stalking aspects of that she had been seeing him as a love interest first or that her not having a accurate view HURT him...have her realize that and have some of it called out...and her do better!

PLENTLY of kids get REALLY weirdly intense about crushes and feelings(heck NINO paralleled marinette in the first season when he had a crush on mari while alya and adrien rolled tehir eyes saying all they needed to do was TALK to them)...collecting pictures sometimes...heck I've even seen kids remember sceduals or where people might hang out at certain times to try to be around their crushes. and adrien is a PUBLIC figure..and nowadays alot of information is REALLY easily available..so plenty of kids DON'T realize they are crossing lines and being creepy!

people justify to themselves compared to how they are harsher toward other people becuase they know they mean well and aren't seeing themselves as a threat. mari being a girl, pretty, talented and well liked means her classmates aren't going to realize she is being creepy..so MARI isn't really going to realize she is being creepy...even more when mari is anoumous and can act on things as ladybug as well.

They could have used mari as the yang to adrien's yin ...where they issues contrast eachother where adrien is to forward while mari holds back too much and is still equally intense..and it points out even GOOD people can get sucked into not realizing they aren't treating someone properly or going too far!

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but instead they try to pull a weird retcon which made NO sense for how they portrayed her uptil now! why would she team up with chloe at all if chloe was THIS bad? let alone team up with her against kagami before? why trust alya standing up to chloe would last if teh other person who stood up to her got kicked out? Kim hasn;t beeing into chloe since season 1! why would he be not that apologetic and talk about how pretty she is INFRONT of his grilfriend? Adrien was also horrified about catacysming hawkmoth! why would he almost catasym kim? and adrien and chloe were already not friends! whats the point of him saying they aren't friends AGAIN when the topic of becoming friends again wasn;t breached! nd many of the previous episodes realized on the lesson being for mari to realize that chloe wasn't EVIL and kindof pathetic where the show was pointing out things were more complex. heck wasn't kim afraid of spiders? and why would mari not know kim's crush was chloe back in season one in this case?

even more....it tries to brush aside mari's actions as some ptsd response when she was fine around water before and she had dated adrien FINE in those other timelines EVEN before she found out he was chat in that first timeline chat blanc. when plenty of kids don't realize they've crossed lines at times and don't need that level of ptsd or bullying for them to act like that.

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It feels even more off to me because a constant aspect of mari is she isn't very good at accurately figuring out someone else's feelings..and she tends to put her own feelings first most of the time...a point in glacatour 2.0 was that Mari didn't understand AT ALL how it was kindof fucked up for her to have chat help her practice confessing to a different boy when she knows SHE is chat's crush. and how she brushes over that chat was feeling worried if he made her feel disrespected as LB..finding it convenient and not thinking much on it...while showing her trust in chat and that she hadn't actually felt that way and just exagerated her feelings to make a point because she was more pissed at the city. calling him selfish when he was messing up the practice and that he should think about other people's feelings for once.

when chat brought up not having a childhood wish and being worried about it she said everyone has one and then assumed his wish would reveal his identity like her wish(which I get focusing on the akuma but not a good look).

How she feels entitled to chat's feelings at multiple points despite having said she doesn't like him that way for most of that(like weredad) or that he was pretending not to like her for her comfort later when he was trying to liek someone else(mari in that case).

even when she liked chat she didn't think about how he'd feel having been rejected all this time? how she had said it was due to her liking someone else but also that it was for safty reasons and her willingness to ignore those safty reasons for her own feelings. doesn't have questions about his civilian self...or that it was taking advantage when she found out chat was trying to get over her and she wanted to go for it as marinette for real unlike how chat realized doing that might be taking advanatge since she didn't know who he really was. heck even in the newyork special mari might have gotten chat noir back...bit she never expicedlty stated how she messed up handling the situation...since chat normally IS the more positive bounce back one...when he started to spiral she couldnt do the support that HE normally does.

We've Definity seen her support his feelings at times...with him feeling comfortable enough to reveal those feelings to her first...gamer, risk, that time at his mom's movies, defending his right to go to newyork ect, simon says, antibug...and she cares....

but much like emphereal a majour issue is mari forgets the impact her words or the lack of words have where SHE knew he was important and irreplaceable but forgot to TELL him that due to being distracted by her 'trick him out of his identity to give to su-han and reverse time so he doesn't know because if i'm honest he MIGHT say no despite having trusted my judgment on otehr occasions' and the from the weird time affects. in newyork despite defendinghis right to go on the trip..her original motiveis becuase SHE wanted her crush on the trip depsite her denial because she didn't want him alone with lila and then failed to say much when he was going away due to his father.

and even with luka..mari showed that despite him turning her compass...mari was kind of insensitive to his feelings and was prone to taking advantage of his understanding nature and avoided him due to ebing uncomfortable HERSELF even though he showed he we chill.

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I love you bringing up how weird it is that they focus becomes more on adrienette rather than a focus on maybe more of adrien's issues...like I WOULD argue that mari has a entire support system in alya, tikki and ther others AND her parenst so Adrien isn't entirely her therapist...but its not a good look...yes from JUST a adriennette perspective it can feel nice to see adrien validate mari's feelinsg when he was obvious to her feelings for him for so long and her internal freakouts...but I'm also aware of the chat ladybug dynamic and how mari was BAD at communicating her feelings all this time...heck adrien feel for marinette ON HIS OWN....not from her wooing him...adrien found out her feelings through ANDRE THE ICECREAM MAN...acting out of character since he NEVER used names before..he had learned previously NOT to push his ships USING marichat as a example already and he had been FINE shipping them with other people AND self love before.

so mari never had to overcome her biggest hurdle when it came to this relationship....which was telling adrien her feelings herself and REALLY realize her actions COULD hurt him. never had to face consequences for LYING to his face about not liking him romantically and how its perfectly reasonable for adrien to have taken her at her word. not veen face consequences for lying about being into him as chat when she WASN'T at the time.

They have her SAY things like 'I haven;t been seeing him accurately' but they never actually put her in a scenerio where I'd believe she'd doubt how she's been handling her crush toward him. it felt like she was using it as a excuse to justify her backup up...like how she tried to say her feelings for adrien wuld make luka awkward after the breakup even though she and luka BOTH know her feelings for adrien WEREN'T the focus of the breakup at all and that luka was VERY understanding and that SHE is just trying to say she is caring about luka's comfort so she can avoid him for HER comfort. even her liking chat felt more like she was using chat to avoid her feelings AGAIN and because chat was just a great support. and the friends and mari have seen him a damsel and no one thought about how adrien could have been uncomfortable with how mari was handling her crush....

Adrien is very understanding, and he likes her romantically now officially rather than just being really fond...and adrien does tend to use romance to distract himself from his own issues....and he was genuinely happy to be relied on back in glacatiour 2.0.

but GOD is it frustrating knowing Mari WANTED to shower this boy in love..with her nerves being the thing getting in the way...but now that they are dating and adrien made the first move...adrien isn't really being showed in the love he deserves.

Adrien is GOOD at getting his feelings across...thats a strength of his and how he is better at support and listening than mari at times and he probably likes getting to express his feelings and knowing its returned where he doesn't really expect mari to show her in alot ove love...but than means if mari DID it would SHOW him that her feelings are the same and let HIM be the wooed one. as much as I feel for Mari's struggle iwth her feelings and adrien not knowing....at least Chat was able to make LB feel cared for to the point she didn't doubt his feelings. Adrien's spent the majority of the show feeling like LB doesn't like him back and also thinking mari doesn't like him that way either...heck adrien always assumed mari was such a good person who'd stand up for any of her friends and was so creative(which she is)...but he DOESN'T know he was often a motivational factor. which one one hand could be weird to learn...but could also be flattering when he is often a after thought for his loved ones with them not actively trying to spend time with him.

honestly, I wish instead of it being some bullying love ptsd...it was actually just ptsd due to felix looking like adrien and how trusting in who she thought was adrien led to her biggest betrayal...but her being unable to explain that because thats LB's trauma...not marinette's...show a consequence of the identity acting felix did.

and honestly the exercises to talk to adrien normally at THIS point in time? when mari has done those excersizes with tikki and alya and the like before to no avail? like adrien seem to think its a him problem...and it feels even weirder when we know mari was fairly normal and the MOST comfortable around chat...that he does have the capability to make her that level of comfortable...even when she knew nothing about him(chat)..but her perspective is off...like...mrai even acted wierd around chatwalker! how is it just a adrien issue at this point!

I'm also worried because while adrien is bias in mari's favor(both as LB and towards Mari) Adrien has some HARD pet peeves similar to kagami when it comes to certain lines being crossed in treatment.....being left out of the loop, kept out of important secerts involving him and assuming his opinion without asking and deciding for him for his 'own good' ...he can be understanding toward others feelings and circumstances...but he was also standing up for his own feelings and circumstances even before plagg arrived...if he finds out about the lies?...not good....he;s learned to try to put them aside at times and be more patient after catwalker even more...and alot of mari' flaws actually parallel aspects of his dad VERY strongly which the show doesn't address

...and mari tends to stumble HARD when SHE is the source of a issue...when she though alya would be upset she deleted the video, after the luka breakup, when breaking the news about chloe not being queen bee to chloe anymore ect.

And adrien tends to bottle those feelings up becuase he normally is able to talk himself through them...but when he reaches a breaking point?

I'm even more worried because most of the girls treat adrien as mari's love interest first and a friend second..and felix just showed how weak adrien's bond with his friends really are. and adrien has opened up to mari more than he has any of his other friends....not to mention his classmates have strait up admitted to not being that close with him while almost ALL of them tend to favor marinette and is closer to marinette who has been in the class longer and who tends to be more proactive when helping them with situatuons(due to being the main character). even is best friend didn;t say much when adrien thought mari hated him before at the wax musuem and didnt try to fix it or give adrien advise or try to talk to mari about how she was making adrien feel.

if adrien breaks up with Marinette...will Adrien be able to keep all his friends or will they all 'side' with Marinette? especially if they can't explain why adrien would be upset or breakup with her? wouldn't they be bias in mari's favor since they know how long she's liked him?

Would his feelings entirely go away? or would it be a thing where he still likes her but the hurt and betrayal of trust is too much?

would the show let us understand adrien's hurt is CORRECT or would the fandom villify him for not understanding and hurting Marinette when we understand why she made her choices?

Would they gloss over his hurt feelings and make him super understanding just so mari won't have to face being that wrong since they've tried writing her 'better'.

Even more Adrien is GOOD as being a natural so to speak...good at making the first move, trying to approach important topics, can put himself in other people's shoes and motives more accurately and be more understanding. heck Nino asked ADRIEN for advice despite knowing how Adrien was homeschooled and only had chloe as a friend for years and Adrien was good at it and was relatively normal similar to Alya when it came to confidence. Adrien tends to be more naturally positive. And talking himself through his emotions...and even understanding others...like felix when he first showed up or being a better listener to julieka...but it also means when he reaches a certain limit he CAN'T immediately talk himself through it...and while I love mari and she HAS gotten better..she is normally going through so much she doesn't really think about the other persons feelings until they bring it up first and she tends to be slow at giving him the peptalks because she's stilled used to him being more thick skinned.

Mari has helped validate Adrien's emotions on plenty of occasions...but sometimes I can't tell if its sincere or just because Mari likes him.

like maybe if they breakup Mari would then have to ACTUALLY work to regain his trust and feelings again?

Adrien is Marinette's Therapist, NOT her Boyfriend and it's Gross

Mental health struggles are no joke and, if you have those struggles, then you absolutely need a partner who will support you through them. That's why, at face value, Adrien supporting Marinette with her PTSD and anxiety is very sweet. It's what a good boyfriend should do. The problem is that Adrien is being written like her therapist, not her boyfriend.

Adrien has his own struggles with depression, loss, and paternal neglect. Yet none of these struggles are brought up once Adrien and Marinette get together. Instead, the relationship is all about her needs and struggles even though this season ends with Gabriel's take down, meaning that focusing on Adrien's issues would have made more sense from a narrative perspective. How much more powerful would the final have been if Marinette really understood Adrien, Emilie, and Gabriel's relationship?

But why do that when we can make everything about Adrienette instead? Why bother to mention Emilie when Marinette is a much better point of conflict between Adrien and Gabriel? After all, if we did that, then Adrien would have a life outside of Marinette and that would be, well, sigh, let's get into it, shall we?

In Derision, we learn that Marinette apparently doesn't have some form of anxiety or ADHD or any of the other things that people have theorized over the years. No, vanilla-Marinette is a totally relaxed, go-with-the-flow non-planner who only started planning after Chloe, Sabrina, and Kim gave her PTSD. Does this insult her character and make no sense? Yes, but let's not get into that. Let's just accept the retcon and look at the fallout of Adrien knowing that his new girlfriend has massive trauma that's mainly focused on romance and controlling situations.

The very next episode is Intuition. In it we see Marinette calling Adrien to show off her ability to do things without planning (or, at least, with less planning) and it's clear from context that this is an exercise that they're doing:

Adrien: Well... (his phone rings) Fancy that! Marinette! I like spending time with Marinette. (picks up his phone) Marinette: (on-call) Guess what I'm calling for: nothing! Can you believe it? I'm calling you randomly, totally out of the blue, for no reason at all! Adrien: So you didn't write down everything you might need to say to me based on everything I might say to you? Marinette: Not at all! Well... I did. I really tried not to, you know, but it was too hard! Anyhow, I limited myself to fourteen possible conversations, including this one! Adrien: Congratulations! Marinette: (on-call) Thank you! Adrien: And did you prepare questions for science class? Marinette: (on-call) Not-a-one! Not even for the live video conference we're doing with Max's mom on the super awesome Tsurugi space jet! I, Marinette, will improvise questions, unpredictably, without planning anything!

In the context of the show, this conversation is deeply concerning and I don't know wtf the writers think they're doing. There is no way in hell that a 14-year-old should be guiding his girlfriend through a therapy session or therapy exercise unless he has the guidance and approval of a trained mental health professional.

Seriously look at what Adrien is doing in this dialogue: Marinette tells him that she's called him without planning and he doesn't just say "that's great!" Instead, he asks if that's true, congratulates her for her mild improvement, and then prompts her to talk about another situation where she would plan things out. In other words, he's asking about the therapy homework that he's clearly given her or that they've decided on together. It's also clear that this isn't their first discussion on the topic because he's very comfortable knowing what to ask about to see if she's done her homework right.

Why was this homework chosen? Who knows! It certainly wasn't picked by someone with training! A therapist wouldn't tell you to avoid planning for a school assignment (something that we've never seen Marinette overplan before, but once again, we're ignoring the retcon). This scene would arguably be inappropriate for an established adult relationship, but a nascent teenage one? Absolutely not.

My SO and I have both done therapy and seen wildly unbalanced relationships. This conversation threw massive red flags for us on both fronts. This is not what a healthy relationship looks like. This is not a give and take. This is why you need a therapist to at least guide you through this type of situation or you will set yourself up in roles where person A is not getting their needs met because the relationship has an established dynamic where person A is the giver and person B is the taker.

This is especially true for a young relationship that's just getting its feet off of the ground. They're supposed to be in the honeymoon phase! More established relationships are better able to handle phases where one person needs more support than the other which absolutely happens and is totally normal. However, when those things happen, it's vital for the supporting partner to have their own support since they can't get it from their partner.

Miraculous denies Adrien this suport. In the very next episode, we get this:

Adrien: I've always seen Marinette acting funny in my presence. I thought that was just the way she was. I thought it was sweet. I thought it was just her charm. But now that I know it's because she loves me and she freaks out about telling me, I feel bad. Because it means that this whole time she's been uncomfortable around me, and I haven't done anything to help her. Kagami: But you didn't know. Adrien: It doesn't take away from her suffering. I just wish she could feel more at ease when she's with me. Otherwise, one day, it'll be too late and she'll give up. Kagami: What can I do to help, Adrien? Adrien: Thanks, but it's not up to you or anyone else to help. I'm the one who's gotta do something.

No! Adrien, you are not equipped to deal with this solo. Ask Kagami to help! Ask Alya to help! Ask Marinette's parents to help! There are times when it's okay to involve others in your relationship and this is one of those times! This isn't even a relationship issue! It's a mental health issue! I know we're flipping gender roles here, but it's not somehow cute or healthy just because a guy is trying to "fix" the girl for once. No one should try to take on that task. This is what therapy is for.

If therapy is not an option for financial or other reasons, then yes, sometimes you have to struggle through and loved ones can help, but in TV land? Especially aimed-at-kids TV land? Show the ideal scenario! At the very least, show a support network! And I mean actual support, not Kagami asking to help and Adrien shooting her down! Writers, you are making Gabriel's dislike of Marinette valid! You are making it so that she is dragging Adrien down! Stop doing that!

Adrien deserves love and support, too. Adrien deserves to be romanced. Adrien deserves more than a kiss and an "I love you" that he had to fight to hear! He never even gets one of the presents from Marinette's chest. She did more to woo him before they got together and it's such pathetic writing.

The fun of getting these two together is letting them do all the stuff they've always wanted to do! Let Marinette bring him macrons! Let him bring her roses! Let her enhance his wardrobe! Let him write her poems! Let them be a healthy, balanced, sickeningly-cute couple! It's fine if she's nervous at the start and takes a while to act normal, but this show takes it to a level beyond teenage jitters and it's not funny or cute. It's concerning.

All of these issues start with Derision's romance-based-PTSD retcon and it was the worst thing they could have done for the Love Square. It poisons the rest of the season and is why I just can't ship these two in canon even though I love what they could have been. They have established such a horrifically unhealthy dynamic that I can't see this ending well unless they get couple's therapy in the very near future and that's not even touching on the baggage that will come from the lies and still unresolved Ladynoir trauma.

As soon as Marinette has romance-based PTSD, she was incapable of being in a relationship until after she'd learned to manage her PTSD. (PTSD cannot be cured, btw, you just learn how to manage it and the symptoms can lessen.) The writers apparently knew that. It's why they gave her a therapist to support her as she worked through her issues and got to the point where she can say "I love you". His name is Adrien. Isn't he cute?

[queenhoneybee-exe]

♥ reverse miraculous AU ♥

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this has been so long in the making im sobbing. im hoping this gets at least some notes bcs ive got so much stuff planned!! i'd basically be rewriting the whole series hehe. anyways--

🐱marinette dupain-cheng🐱

she/her

daughter of two famous fashion designers (tom+sabine)

has plagg

model, class rep, wants to be a fashion designer

confident, a bit sassy but means well

in love w m. cocchinot, doesn't much care for adrien

relationship with her kwami:

pre-s1 (and pre-plagg) marinette was very quiet & reserved, plagg helped bring her confidence out

he also forces her to relax because she tends to bring on more projects than she's able to manage (like in canon)

as a superheroine:

basically a fem version of canon chat noir - sassy, full of cat puns and witty comebacks, charming, confident

AND she purrs !

unlike canon chat, felinette uses her cataclysm sparingly and only when requested by m cocchinot

🐞adrien agreste🐞

he/him/they

son of paris' best baker (just emilie)

has tikki

confectioner, baker, always ready to help marinette

awkward, nerdy and klutzy but makes the best damn macaroons EVER and still plays the piano

absolutely smitten w marinette, only platonic love for felinette

relationship with his kwami:

pre-s1 (and pre-tikki) adrien was homeschooled due to his disability, so now he's just as clueless as he is in the show

tikki helps him see his best side, gives him confidence and calms him down after another awkward interaction w marinette

as a superhero:

a natural leader, kind and responsible, emphatic, calm and collected even in the face of danger, an absolute lovable babie

his magical powers make him invincible, helping him w his disabled leg

he does fly at times to let up on his leg, but he can't fly too far and for too long

🐞🐱🐞🐱🐞🐱🐞🐱🐞🐱🐞🐱

♥ the lovesquare ♥

marinette

m cocchinot: crush

adrien: 1st half of s1 indifferent, 2nd half of s1 friends

adrien

felinette: friends & partners

marinette: crush

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extra info:

sabine and emilie know abt their respective kids' identities (the kids don't know this)

adrien and chloe still grew up together and are friends to this day

thank you for reading this far! ;w;

[starsfic]

Marinette Dupain-Cheng, Girlfriend of Ladybug

Summary: During another invasive interview pushing her towards Chat Noir, Ladybug panics and claims that she’s dating someone. Who? Oh, just her civilian identity. Dominos unexpectedly topple.

Ko-Fi

-_-

It was a heat of the moment thing.

Ladybug really couldn’t blame herself. Well, technically she could, considering she had agreed to another hour-long interview with Nadja and Chat Noir. Where, of course, the topic inevitably turned back to the nonexistent romantic relationship between her and her partner, not helped at all by the fact  that Chat kept egging it on and nobody seemed to notice or care about her discomfort. The moment Alya appeared on screen and asked “So when are you going to admit your feelings for each other?”

She snapped.

“I have a girlfriend.”

Dead silence encased the studio. Chat gaped at her, Alya gaped at her, Nadja gaped at her, everyone gaped at her. It was only until a hand reached out of the audience that noise came back in. “Excuse me?”

“Yes, I have to agree,” Nadja said, a flustered blush making her cheeks red. “Excuse me?”

Welp, she had already said it, so might as well. “I have a girlfriend,” she repeated. Chat and Alya continued to gape at her. She took a deep breath in and plastered on a stern look. “Nadja, did you ever think the reason why I don’t confess my feelings for Chat is because I don’t have any?”

Silence encased the studio, but it was the silence where people were muttering to each other. Ladybug waited. Chat continued to gape, but Alya shut her mouth and made an odd squeaky noise.

Nadja finally took a deep breath in. When she opened her eyes, she seemed to be staring at her in a different way. Not as an icon or an idol or a celebrity, but as if Ladybug was a real person. She hadn’t even realized that she hadn’t been looking at her that way. “No,” she said. “I’m…so sorry, Ladybug. I hadn’t considered that.” Ladybug nodded but didn’t say a word. “May I ask who it is?”

Well, crap. She hadn’t expected that. She was tempted to say, “No comment,” but then it would be possible that people would catch on to the fact that she was lying. She needed someone. Ladybug thought for a moment and then prayed Tikki wouldn’t be too mad.

“Marinette Dupain-Cheng.”

Once again, the room descended into muttering silence. Chat was pulling out his staff with the angriest look she had ever seen on his face. Ladybug couldn’t help but raise a brow at that. But then Alya spoke with a “NO WAY!”

Ladybug raised a brow. “Are you calling me a liar?”

“Yes!” Alya said, seeming to not care about the fact that she was being televised live. “She’s in love with Adrien Agreste! He’s her soulmate, I’m sure of it!” Geez, Alya, thanks. Chat’s muttering stopped. “She’s been struggling to confess to him since the attacks first began! He’s-”

“A boy, Miss Cesaire,” Ladybug cut her off, keeping her voice bored. Yes, she did have a crush on Adrien once. But her feelings had faded over time, especially when she thought of how he reacted to Chloe and Lila hurting her. “A boy that is well-known and popular with the female population of Paris. A boy that would be expected if a person asked about a celebrity crush.”

Alya stared at her. She could practically see her put the pieces together. “What about Luka Couffaine? She dated him for…a few months!”

“Her and Luka Couffaine, I have discussed with her,” Ladybug said, keeping her voice calm. Her mind raced- she would definitely need to talk to Luka after this. “I will not pretend to be a good girlfriend, Miss Cesaire. Marinette does not know who I am under the mask- if anyone says that they do, they are lying-” Hopefully, that dealt with Lila. “Our relationship had to be kept secret. I cannot take her out on dates or meet her parents. So, we agreed to an open relationship.”

Nadja cleared her throat. “She does not know who you are?”

Ladybug shook her head. “No. We agreed that, after Hawkmoth is defeated and I can retire, I will reveal myself to her and discuss our relationship from there. I’m only being open with my relationship now since she knows I am uncomfortable with people trying to ship me with Chat Noir-”

“Because they know we’re meant to be!” Chat burst out. Honestly, she was surprised that he hadn’t spoken up sooner. He grabbed her hand and tried to pull her close. “My Lady, think about it! We have so much more in common than some random civilian!” His eyes were dark, sending shivers up her spine. “You’re lying about Marinette, right? There’s no way you could fall for some random person-”

“Hey!” Alya spoke up, her voice bordering on fury. “Marinette’s not just some random nobody!” The camera shook as something slammed, most likely Alya’s fist slamming into the desk. “Marinette is the smartest, most creative person I have ever met! She’s probably the greatest actress of all time, and I would say that she has done so much more for Paris than you ever have on your own!” She took a deep breath. “Ladybug, you have great taste.” And with that, Alya’s camera cut short.

Nadja nodded. “Okay, next question,” she said, her voice still a touch strained from the bombshell that was just dropped on her.

Hopefully, this didn’t blow up.

-_-

It blew up.

Tikki, thankfully, didn’t seem mad. “It was clever,” she said before encouraging Marinette to go to bed.

When Marinette woke up surprisingly early, it was to a ton of messages on her social media and email. By the time she left for school, it was a flood that she was too afraid to look at. Her parents were surprisingly happy for her, with her dad apologizing for blowing up in such a way on Chat Noir. “It’s okay,” she said, hugging him. “It was awkward, but it kept Chat from following Ladybug.”

“Which I can’t believe he did!” her mother groused. “You think he would know better!”

“Yeah,” Marinette sighed, old annoyance flaring up. “Me too.”

Thankfully, there wasn’t a crowd of reporters- yet. So Marinette wasted no time in rushing over to school before one did form.

Once she was there, she found herself pausing. A large portion of the people she saw were wearing Ladybug’s spots or LGBTQIA+ merch, from full outfits to just hair clips. Several stopped to smile and give her friendly waves, while others looked starstruck. This was a bigger reaction than she was expecting.

She waved back and headed to her classroom. She sent another prayer to the surprisingly quiet Tikki that nothing happened and opened the door.

The classroom was surprisingly quiet, with Lila sitting in the back looking like she had all the life drained from her, until Marinette stepped inside. “Marinette!” Alya said, jumping to her feet. She had switched her orange flannel for one bearing the pan colors. She wasted no time in rushing up and practically scooping her up in a hug. The shock meant that it took a second before Marinette realized that Alya was apologizing into her hair. “-so sorry, I should’ve thought more about Ladybug’s feelings, I never meant to hurt her, swear-”

“It’s okay,” Marinette said, pulling away to smile at her bestie. “I know how people can get with superheroes, I think Ladybug forgives you.” She poked Alya’s nose. “Although I’m annoyed that you tried to air out my crush on Adrien to all of Paris.”

Alya sighed, nodding. “I know. Now that I think about it, it was super not cool.” She tried for a smile. “I’m sorry, girl.”

Despite herself, Marinette couldn’t stay mad. “I forgive you. But, don’t do it again.” Alya nodded and with that out of the way, she could move on. She looked around and couldn’t help but raise a brow. “But what’s going on? Why is everyone either wearing Ladybug stuff or pride stuff? If I had known, I would’ve dug my pride stuff out.”

“Oh, haven’t you checked online?” Nino called, his headphones decorated with bi stickers.

Marinette shook her head. “I’ve been too afraid to,” she admitted. “My social media has been flooded with messages and emails.”

“Oh, I can sort those for you, dudette.”

“Thank you,” she sighed, handing over her phone. “The code’s still the same.” Nino nodded as he began to fiddle with her phone.

“Anyway,” Kim said, wearing a transmac hoodie instead of his regular red hoodie. “The entire queer community adopted Ladybug as a queer icon after her interview last night. People have been debating for hours whether she’s a lesbian or bi.”

“Uh huh,” Well, at least the community was supportive. “I’m glad people are supportive.”

“Of course they are,” Alya said, leading her to their seats. “It’s Ladybug and you, the biggest sweethearts in Paris. If anyone isn’t, they look-”

“RIDICULOUS!” Chloe stormed in, wearing her normal clothing. Her gaze could’ve set Marinette on fire as she marched up and slammed her hands on her desk. On closer inspection, her eyes were rimmed red. “Break up with Ladybug.”

“Excuse me?”

“Are you deaf?!” Chloe shrieked, slamming her hand down. “Break up with Ladybug! There is only one girl that is perfect enough for her to date, and it’s certainly not you!”

“And I’m guessing that’s you?” Alya scoffed before Marinette could figure out a proper response that wasn’t not in your life. “Please, everyone knows Ladybug hates your guts.”

“She does not!” Chloe shrieked, tears beading up in the corner of her eyes. “She thinks I’m great! She chose me to be a hero! She knows I’m great! She-”

“Lost the Miraculous by accident, and you refused to give it back.” Marinette interrupted. Chloe’s jaw dropped, and she gaped at her. “Yeah, she told me about that. She thought you would do better, be better if you understood how your actions affect Paris. But you didn’t.” She leaned forward and that angry spark in her, the one that had been burning in her since Adrien pouted and moaned, burned. “Your actions are why people were celebrating that you were leaving Paris when you decided to go to New York.”

“Marinette!” Adrien called, also dressed in his normal clothes, but she held her hand out.

“You are nothing to Ladybug. Just a hazard and a safety risk.” Marinette leaned back in her chair. “The only reason I made that party for you is because Adrien asked. Nobody else.”

Chloe shut her mouth. She looked around the room. Sabrina looked away. Nobody else did, staring her down, bonded in silent agreement. Marinette expected her to rage, to scream, to throw a fit. Instead, she straightened up and walked to her seat. The moment she sat down, she hid her face.

“Marinette!” Adrien barked. “That was horrible! You-”

“Told her what Ladybug thought of her and what she needed to hear,” Marinette said, interrupting him. She leaned forward, allowing the anger brewing in her at him to burn in her eyes. “And if you don’t stop and think about your actions, so will I.”

Adrien stared with wide eyes. Without another word, but a nasty glance back, he turned and sat down. Nino scooted away from him before turning and holding up her phone. “Here, Nette,” he said. “There was some hate mail from people like Chloe,” Chloe flinched. “But a lot more of people supporting you.”

“Oh, that’s sweet,” Marinette said, taking her phone back.

The rest of the school day passed in silence. Twice, Adrien tried to get her alone, apparently undeterred by her threat, but Alya and the rest of the girl squad made sure there was a bodyguard nearby until Adrien had to leave for a photoshoot. (Rose was tiny but fierce in her desire to protect Marinette.) The rest of the school left her alone, excluding a few people who asked for her autograph and pictures and a whole bunch of gifts and letters in her locker. Marinette tried to ignore the heat in her face with all the love and care. 

Finally, the school day was over. Marinette walked out and breathed a sigh of early relief. She could see a few news vans waiting outside the bakery, so she had that to stress about, but she had gotten through the school day relatively unscathed.

The sound of a guitar met her ears and she paused, coming to a stop on the stairs.

Right. Luka.

She meant to talk to him after the interview, but Chat Noir had been following her, insisting to talk more about them, that she hadn’t been able to. So, here she was, standing on the steps, trying her best to not be seen by the musician as he strummed his guitar, probably waiting for Juleka.

It was tempting to run. But Marinette had to be braver than that. 

She took a deep breath and marched down the stairs, coming to a stop right next to him. Luka paused in his playing, staring at her. Marinette couldn’t look him in the eyes. Instead, she found herself staring at her feet. “Hi, Luka,” she said and immediately wanted to facepalm. Hi, Luka? Just that? Not, hey Luka, did you see the interview where Ladybug revealed I was two-timing you with her even though we’re the same person-

“You should’ve given me a heads up that we were poly,” Luka’s voice broke through her haze. She glanced up. Luka smiled at her, although it was edged with something. “I have a cute boy in my class, his name’s Felix, and I think you two would love each other.”

Marinette’s mind blanked, at first wondering what he was talking about, and then realization. “You…you aren’t mad?”

“I…I don’t know how to feel,” Luka admitted, and it was strange to see him admit that. Luka was the only boy she knew who was best in touch with his emotions. “On one hand, it makes a lot more sense than you pining over Adrien like everyone thought. On the other-”

“I lied,” Marinette admitted. “I lied, a lot, to you and everyone.” She gripped the edge of her shirt. “I kept ditching dates for something dumb, not related to her,” Luka raised a brow, but she continued on. “Sometimes I wished she didn’t exist because I trust you, Luka, I trust you so much but I keep having to lie because I care about her too and hurt you and and and-” Warm arms engulfed her but she couldn’t allow it, she needed to say it. “I’m so sorry, Luka.”

Luka didn’t say a word, just held her. Finally, he sighed. “I’m sorry too, Marinette,” he admitted. “I should’ve been better, maybe then-”

“No!” Marinette shoved him away. Luka stumbled back, looking hurt, but Marinette wasted no time in gripping his shoulders, staring him down. “You were wonderful,” she said, making sure he understood. “You were wonderful. I was the one who should’ve been better. I should’ve communicated better, I should’ve explained better about why I was leaving you in the lurch.”

“I was the one who got akumatized,” Luka said, staring back with wide eyes. “I went after you.”

“It was my fault you got akumatized in the first place!”

“No, it was not-” And now Luka was holding her shoulders, making sure she was looking at him. They probably looked strange, gripping each other’s shoulders like this, but Marinette didn’t care. “It was not your fault. It was Hawkmoth’s fault.” Right, right, Marinette needed to remember that. He was the one who took advantage of people. “We’re both crappy at communicating. We can work on that.”

Wait…

“You…want to try again?”

Luka paused and then nodded. “Now that I know more, enough to possibly understand some things,” He took in a deep breath. “Only if you want to?”

Marinette nodded back. “We can try,” And isn’t that what they all could do? “Maybe you can introduce me to Felix, and I can introduce you to…” She held up her hand at the sight of a familiar red car. “Hang on real quick.”

Luka blinked but nodded. Marinette smiled as they released each other before she turned and marched up to Kagami, who paused with a raised brow. Much to her delight, she wore gloves marked with the queer pride flag. “Wanna go on a date?” she asked promptly.

Kagami blinked. She opened her mouth, closed it, and then hummed. Marinette waited patiently. If Kagami had to think about it, than she was willing to wait. “Yes,” she finally said. “If your girlfriend is alright with it?”

Marinette nodded, feeling her face heat up. “Luka and I are trying again,” she admitted. “So he’s introducing a friend of his on our date. I wanted to introduce you to him, because I think you guys would be good friends, if not datemates.” She wanted to be honest where she could.

Kagami’s eyes brightened at the mention of friendship. “Then I certainly will come,” she said. “You have my number, so let me know the details.”

“I will.” She held out her hand and Kagami didn’t hesitate in giving it a squeeze. “Maybe after practice today, we can have our first date? At our usual spot?”

Kagami smiled. It was awkward, but it was sincere. “I would love that.” With one last squeeze of her hand, Kagami marched into the school.

Luka was chuckling when Marinette returned. “I guess we’ll have a full table,” he said, pulling out his phone. “I’ll talk to Felix and figure out a good time for us.”

Marinette nodded. “Let me know the details.” She paused. “And, thank you, Luka.” Before he could respond she took off running.

Lying about her girlfriend went better than expected!

[flightfoot]

any fic recs featuring polyamory?

Oh yeah, definitely!

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Herbs And Steam by @liiinerle

Juleka le Flor Blef, nature witch from near the forest of Couffaine, arrives at Eiffel Castle so she can partake in the Queen's Trials - a contest to determine the strongest witch in all of France. She wants to prove the strength of her magic, but when she arrives, her attention is quickly distracted by two very interesting women: Kagami, the princess, who seems to act nothing like a princess should; and Marinette, the blacksmith, who has created a magic all her own through metal, steam, and ingenuity. Juleka is immediately besotted with both of them, and needs to work extra hard to focus on her magic. Juleka also soon becomes aware that there is stronger magic at Eiffel castle than she had expected. For one thing, there's a tree in the courtyard put there years ago by a witch whose powers seem to surpass hers; for another, there's Alya la Pluvie Versaunt, who must be the most powerful mage Juleka has ever met...

Unusual poly here, there aren't a lot of Juleka/Kagami/Marinette fics! I love the world here, getting to see all these different witches honing their craft, and Juleka making friends with many of them - though especially the nonwitches Kagami and Marinette, of course XD. If you like some femslash or a good fantasy AU, this fic should scratch that itch!

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Each Hum And Click by @echo-has-queries

Kagami thought her understandably high standards for a match in marriage would mean she could avoid being paired with a man by her mother. That she could keep perfecting her flying-machine skills and eventually take over her mother’s place in leading the Tsurugi steam engine manufacturing company without having to defer to a man. She would have thought that when her mother told her to test the Agreste boy as a marriage match she had been kidding - if her mother ever kid. But she was serious and there truly was no fault to be found with Gabriel Agreste's son - except for the small detail of course, that he was not human. So Kagami must turn to the only fine mechanic she knows in Paris to find a solution to this new dilemma. But perhaps the dilemma could turn out to be the solution itself. Written for the AU Roulette Challenge 2024 with the prompt: Steampunk AU

So this fic is entirely from Kagami's POV, and it is a treat! It's an Adrigaminette fic, which you slowly figure out from reading the fic, if you didn't check the tags - Kagami may have tried not to like Adrien, but he grew on her regardless, and then a few chapters in you find out about hers and Marinette's failed relationship. I loved slowly finding out why the two of them broke up, when there are clearly still strong feelings between them, and how it ties into Kagami's character arc and the overall themes of the story: standing up for yourself, breaking free from those who would control you, and forging your own path.

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All Of Them? Every Single One? by @liiinerle

It turns out that Marinette loves a lot more people than she’d initially thought.

This is hilarious and adorable. Tikki lays out how Marinette has a crush on basically every girl she’s met - and even girls she doesn’t know are girls yet XD. 

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Spin the Bottle by @kasienda

When the bottle cap comes to a stop dead center on Nino, Adrien’s both relieved and somehow more anxious. His first kiss - not his actual first kiss, but still kinda his first kiss - the first kiss he will remember, will be with someone he deeply cares about. But Adrien also cares what Nino thinks of him, so what if he’s a terrible kisser? Nino offers him a reassuring smile, and he relaxes. Adrien glances at Alya for permission, and she just shoos him towards Nino. Adrien turns to Nino, leaning closer. If his stomach had been squirming before, it now feels like a half dozen Kwamis have taken up residence in his gut. But Adrien doesn’t hesitate. He blocks out the presence of all of his friends watching, and instead focuses on Nino - like Nino is a stage partner in a photoshoot. Except kissing Nino is nothing like a photoshoot. … Adrien kisses Nino in a game of Spin the Bottle, and then neither can stop thinking about it. Alya really likes how flustered her boyfriend is by all this. Marinette though, can’t handle it and keeps running away.

This is a great Alya X Adrien X Nino X Marinette poly fic! I love them all talking out their feelings and realizing new things about themselves. Alya’s instrumental and bringing everyone together, though she, herself, is also nervous about confessing to her longstanding crush XD

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Three’s company by @torvalvt

Kagami has been doing her best for years to ignore her feelings for her friends. It doesn’t help that Adrien and Marinette insist on spending as much time as possible with her, even going so far as inviting her along on their dates together. If only the affection she felt for them wouldn’t get in the way of their relationship. Because it is growing harder and harder to tamp down her feelings with how close they are getting to her.

This is adorable. Adrien and Marinette really want Kagami to join their relationship and she just doesn’t dare hope for it. If you want some adorable Adrigaminette from Kagami’s perspective, I recommend checking this fic out!

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Chat Noir Cataclyms Hawk Moth's Balls by @a-flaming-idiot

It's what it says on the tin; Chat Noir castrates his unaware father. And at the same time, Gabriel hits a high C to shatter glass, Nathalie realizes she wasted her life, Chloe accidentally outs herself, Adrien becomes homeless, there are no more secret identities, Tikki thinks she's funny, Nino and Alya take what's their's, and Chloe finally respects another human being. And a partridge in a pear tree~

So this is a fun little crackfic! Lots of jokes and absurd scenarios, you're likely to giggle at least a few times (and hopefully several times) while reading this.

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(let me paint my skin) with your love by starnoir

Adrien blushes, looking down at his lap as his hair falls back over his nape. He shifts in his seat and finds Marinette staring at him with a sweet soft smile, and Adrien returns it. He reaches out his free hand to place on Alya and Marinette's desk, and they both latch onto it. Marinette's fingertips rest atop his own, and the green of her skin seems to glow. Alya's hand finds his wrist, rubbing small circles into his skin. "We love you, Adrien, whether your soul-marks show it or not," Nino decides, leaning back as Alya's free hand knocks off his cap and curls her fingers in his hair, the little bit that he'd begun to grow out. Adrien feels his eyes threaten to bubble over with tears, and it's just so much in one moment. Nino's knuckles on his, Marinette's fingers on his, Alya's slow circles massaged into his wrist as her hand rests on her side. "Thanks guys," he chokes, "I love you all too." And their colors seem to glow, and so do their cheeks. Or, a sweet wholesome soulmate-soulmark au about Adrien finding love after being forced to hide how big his heart was for so long.

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Getting The Gang Together by @mikauzoran

When Nino and Alya witness Ladybug and Chat Noir detransforming, they come up with a scheme to win over their crushes and create the OT4 they’ve always dreamed of.

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The Quartet's Duet by timeandpace_lord

In which Kagami and Luka attempt to get two idiots to fall in love. Instead, four idiots realize they were already in love. Based a lot on Determination and Wishmaker specifically. ~~~ It was only a matter of time, he told himself. Sooner or later they’d stumble into the same secret he had and realize they were made for each other. And if they needed a helping hand to get there, a conductor for the symphony of their lives together, he was more than happy to take on that role. Kagami nodded firmly. She’d known that Marinette was Adrien’s true target from the beginning, but it had taken longer for her to get over her own jealousy and realize that the other girl was also the correct target. Now that she no longer had blinders on, it was obvious the two were meant to be together. If she could help them realize it, so much the better.

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Vanilla Valentine by @talkstoself

When Adrien’s first attempt at baking Valentine Cookies for Marinette goes horribly wrong, Luka steps in to help. There’s no way this could possibly go wrong… right?

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The Mid-Autumn Moon by AlpakaAlex

Kagami wants to do something for Marinette, but does not know whether she might be overstepping a line.

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Worthwhile Distractions by @coffebanana

As much as Kagami loves her partners, there are some things she prefers to deal with on her own. So it's a little annoying that they won't stop fretting over her injured ankle, something she very much has under control. But when it turns out that maybe Marinette and Adrien were right that she should have taken things easy, she knows she's lucky to have them both by her side. Even if sometimes that's not so easy to admit to.

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Blossoming by pepsiisokay

It starts with a bouquet. It ends with one too. A series of moments in which Kagami, Adrien, and Marinette realize they might just be perfect for each other.

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Hold Me By Both Hands by @angelofthequeers

“I know he said never to take you back,” Plagg mutters. “But he’d change his tune if he knew.” He looks Adrien straight in the eye and, more serious than Adrien’s ever seen him before, says, “There’s someone you gotta meet. He’s been looking for that book for ages.” How differently might the events of season 2 have gone if Adrien had also known of Master Fu from the start?

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sunblind by @asukiess

Adrien's newfound hobby of drawing leads to learning just how important friendship is to him. Also, he's extremely innocent.

[fabseg-creator]

My review about Miraculous World: Paris, Tales of Shadybug and Claw Noir

This is a (first) review about a Miraculous element (especially an episode form Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir).

This post contains spoilers.

Today, I've watched the Special Episode. I am prepared for the watching. I will reveal my aggregation in the end of the post.

And now, time to read:

Plot:

This happens in the same moment (at the night) as the episode Destruction (5.03). After Monarch has been cataclysmed at the left arm and before he configurates the stolen Miraculouses.

In a parallel world, a Butterfly superhero named Hesperia (Gabriel Agreste/Gabi Grassette) who is helped by Alya, Nino, Max and Markov, leaves his homeworld universe for escape from Shadybug (Toxinelle) and Claw Noire (Griffe Noire), two evil versions of Ladybug and Cat Noir. When the three characters come to the Ladybug and Cat Noir main universe, Hesperia teams up with the two titular heroes for make the ShadyClaw duo into good people. At the other side, the evil counterparts try to steal the Butterfly miraculous to Hesperia (and later to try to combine the Ladybug and Cat powers for make their wishes).

I've learned about news elements in the Miraculous lore by watching the Special:

They exist some billions an infinity of Parallel Worlds in the lore.

Each Parallel World is home to one Tikki and one Plagg (so One Ladybug holder and one Cat holder).

The inconvenients from the Ladybug's and Cat's powers (secondary effects)due to their excessive using. Shadybug and Claw Noire cause their own deterioration in their bodies by using their power for the evil.

The morale about the hope in dark and sad moments (Thanks, Hesperia.)

The parallel world (ShadyClaw/Hesperia's world) is a dystopian world ruled by the Supreme

Hesperia's, Shadybug's and Claw Noir's backstories

What I liked:

The Hesperia opening in the intro (that was WTF but that was fun)

The coming of Shadybug and Claw Noire, their odd relationships

The Claw Noir's lines and moments

The Kamiko (good alternate name to Akuma)

The akumatization forms: Chat Céleste (Cat Noir) and Ubiquity (first Alya and later Ladybug)

Ladyfly (Marinette with Ladybug + Butterfly unification)

The travels across multiple parallel worlds (Hi, Scarabella and Kitty Noire. Hi, Mister Bug and Ladynoire.)

The concept of Re-Verse (the idea of what would Marinette and Adrien have looked like if theirs lives had been different from the Canon)

The thing how Monarch has failed (again) to take the Ladybug and Cat Miraculouses when he travelled across parallel worlds.

What I disliked:

The lack of end post-credits scene: I would like to see what happens in the Hesperia's world after the battle (interractions between the reformed Shabybug and Claw Noire, Hesperia, Alya ans Nino about reconciliation ans reorganisation of the Resistance against the Supreme).

The absence of other Miraclass counterparts, Luka, Kagami, Félix, Zoé, Chloé and Lila/Cerise (Only Alya, Nino, Max and Markov from the class appear in the episode as parallel counterparts)

The missing full appearance of the Supreme (his/her appearance from the shadow for reveal himself/herself/themself to spectators could make the cliffhanger effect for a sequel).

What I want to know for the future:

The most intriguing point, for me, is: The Supreme (This hidden character I have just mentioned in this post)

Who is the Supreme ? Human or Deity ? Big Brother (1984, George Orwell) ? How do s/he looks like ?

All I've learned about him/her/them is:

The Supreme is an entity/being who rules the Hesperia's homeworld (possibly the Hesperia's entire universe).

S/He is a tyrant, a dictator (worst than Chloé, possibly more machiavelic and charismatic than Cerise, more dangerous than Monarch) on this Earth (or simply Paris).

S/He hates the Love, the Freedom/Liberty, the Justice, the Happiness, positive emotions and particularly the superheroes.

It's him/her/they who is THE overarching antagonist of the Paris Special (even if s/he is only mentioned many times). S/He's so more antagonistical than Monarch.

S/He makes Hesperia and the Resistance from this world (and by extension Ladybug 2 (former Shadybug) and Cat Noir 2/Paw Noir (former Claw Noir)) as Outlaws.

It's him/her/them who given the Ladybug and Cat miraculous to Emo Marinette and Emo Adrien. Ironical and Ridiculous from the Supreme !

S/He is too powerful, too surnatural and too overcheated: s/he has a great control on the Miraculous Ultimate Absolute Power. S/He has implanted a blockage spell on Tikki and Plagg for prevent anyone to summon Gimmi.

ML theory: I'm thinking the Supreme is probably a evil type of Guardian of Miraculouses. A Fallen Guardian (NOT Master Fu NOR Su-Han). S/He has many knowledges about Miraculouses and their using + the Absolute Power.

My personal aggregation on the Paris Special:

I've enjoyed to see the episode. The narrative is excellent. The idea of Multiverse in the Miraculous lore is well found. The various animations from the episode are fun. Miraculous World: Paris, Tales of Shadybug and Claw Noire is a wonderful episode.

Result: 10/10

[tumblingxelian]

Oneshot Concept - The Chloe & Adrien - Childhood Friends Special

I wish there'd been a comedy episode centered on Adrien & Chloe's friendship & seeing other facets of them and the relationship.

It opens with Adrien being super drowsy at school as he had to wake up extremely early to finish a report because he won't be able to work on it over the weekend due to his jammed schedule.

He is barely keeping his head up & the others think its ridiculous, including a grouchy Chloe who storms up and promises to "Deal with this nonsense."

While the others fret over Adrien and muse ideas, one can see Chloe talking animatedly in the background, at times seemingly threatening her phone before suddenly shifting into pure professionalism and strutting back over.

Adrien has the weekend off, but cannot go out on Saturday because if he is sooo tired, he must need to stay home.

Adrien's only question is if he can sleep in to which she says yes and gets a drowsy thank you. Chloe adds she'll swing by after ten so Gabriel can't pull a fast one on them which receives a thumbs up as Adrien's head rests on his arms and she leaves.

Alya muses on how spending a day with Chloe is probably more tiring, Marinette is shifting into panic mode & Nino notes Adrien's already fallen asleep.

More under the cut:

At night, Marinette is seen sort of shaking off Tikki's advice that there are facets to even people one reasonably dislikes that you may not know & that presumably someone as nice as Adrien has some reason for sticking out his friendship with Chloe, but it largely falls on deaf ears.

The next day, Alya struts into her families store to 'steal her' because she & Nino figured she'd be stressing & needs time to relax with ice cream. Marinette muses on how Adrien & Chloe are probably dining on lobster and grapes & other fancy things on a super romantic date.

Cut to the Agreste manor & after Chloe enters his room Chloe reveals her purse is full of chocolate bars and other such things with both chanting "Hide the snacks, hide the snacks" with Plagg in the background doing the same as they begin racing around the room hiding snacks. Adrien revealing he's made new secret compartments, again Plagg in the background looking smug, & Chloe wondering where the wealthy would be without such things.

"Probably jail" says Adrien, Chloe agrees & they laugh.

On the way to ice cream, Alya shares what is meant to be an exaggerated jokey idea of what she thinks Adrien's day will be like, namely doing Chloe's make up and acting like her butler, shown in a comedic animation. Then it cuts to the actual scene of Chloe asking Adrien how he feels, revealing he has no had his face painted in elaborate, beastly fashion and he smirks like Chat Noir, "I feel ferocious, roar!"

Finally at the ice cream parlor, Nino has arrived and joins in on the speculation, though his is mildly more forgiving, suggesting Chloe is just incompetent at being a child cos she always tries to act grown up. With him thinking she'll want to watch an opera but not understand it or try a wine tasting with grape juice.

We cut to the manor zooming away from a film called "The Hyena Queen" to Chloe, also face painted, dangling off the rock climbing wall with a malevolent Adrien murmuring, "Long live the queen" before knocking her of the wall and she falls dramatically to the cushions below. Then he remembers how sad the next scene is & Chloe's frantically running for the remote, "I'll skip it, I'll skip it!"

Marinette counters that she thinks Chloe is probably going to use this time to brainwash Adrien and turn him against them.

Cut to them playing foosball & Adrien noting he wishes Chloe would be nicer to their classmates, or at least his friends. She counters, she almost but doesn't wish he were more ruthless & unforgiving, cos he wouldn't be Adrien if he were like her.

Things hang in awkward silence before their game picks up again.

Alya & Nino find it unrealistic, if only cos they doubt Adrien would listen & Marinette agrees and offers to get them some drinks still stressed but calming down. But she's cornered by a fan of Adrien's who asks if all the horrible things they said about the girl were accurate & Marinette goes on a bit of a ramble about her issues with Chloe before calming down and noting she may be exaggerating and feels better to get it off her chest.

Unfortunately, the fan is no longer listening and is holding an Adrien figurine as a butterfly emerges on her face & she swears, "My dear Adrien, I won't let that horrible girl torment you a moment longer!"

Cut back to Chloe strutting back into the room & dusting off her hands. Adrien asking how it went, as he could hear shouting from the other side of the house. Chloe waves him off, claiming to know how to talk to his father. Adrien wishes he could do the same, but also that it didn't necessitate arguments and asks what the damage is.

Chloe waves him off, reiterating its for the best he's not like his heartless father. Adrien counters, asking if she really wants to discuss heartless parents. She does a 180 and in a very tight, forced voice says, "I take it back Adrien, he's not heartless, and I am sure he will soon sell the company, let you retire from modelling and move you both into a townhouse… thing, and start coaching a soccer team to spend time with you!"

She adds an unconvincing smile that has Adrien cackling.

Meanwhile we cut back to Marinette fighting "Fan Queen" & talking herself out of using it as a chance to see Adrien, but she takes long enough that the Akuma does start approaching the house

"My darling Adrien, I am here to save you!"

Chloe & Adrien are enraptured in a very intense game of "Who can balance more stupid stuff on their head" Chloe is currently winning due to ballet & gymnastics training, but notes Adrien is doing better than he ever has before. He muses he must have been a cat in his last life.

Then Fan Queen kicks in the window and stops dead in her tracks as the pair stare at her, but also refuse to break their contest; its mostly Chloe.

Fan Queen is confused, Ladybug is confused, Adrien & Chloe fall over when she arrives and start trying to look cool and or getting fannish with her, but they keep stumbling over each others lines and poses getting increasingly embarrassed as they start squabbling over it.

Fan Queen just mutters, "Oh you're actually just a dork aren't you Adrien?" which just sort of nets an awkward shrug as Chloe makes some snippy comments about falling for magazine covers.

Just as Fan Queen seems to be getting upset, Ladybug snags the Akumatized item and the fight is over in short order, with her leaving the now very confused Akuma victim to the effuse praise of the pair.

After leaving she muses on what the heck she stumbled into there & if maybe Tikki was right.

Cut back & Chloe is asking Adrien if he's OK as that was his 'first' Akuma attack where he was the target. He waves it off, saying it was scary, but he figured as she wasn't scared he didn't need to be.

There's a brief moment where we see a sort of high speed flashback to several times Akuma have tried to kill her, but just as Adrien starts looking worried she forces a smirk and proclaims, of course she wasn't afraid, she is Chloe, and Ladybug adored her, so nothing bad could ever happen to her.

She's fine, really, pinky promise.

At night Marinette muses that maybe Tikki was right & that there's sides to people that can be unexpected, such as a cool charming guy getting flustered, or a normally mean person showing they can be a good friend.

As Tikki begins to narrate about how people often wear masks to be liked or get by in a difficult situation, we see Adrien waving Chloe off from his window, as the narration continues, talking about trust and the unique ways people can be there for each other as we see Adrien's dinner & then cut to him eating a chocolate bar.

She continues, that for other people they may not wear a mask to be liked but instead fiercer and more dangerous than they are, & we see Chloe moving through the hotel, eying everyone suspiciously even as she looks confident, members of the press obviously spying on her.

Before finally capping off on a moral about how even Marinette wears such masks, with how she is so easily able to express her worries and fears as herself, but as Ladybug she stays cool, calm and collected, which Marinette agrees with, adding a literal mask makes it easier to be who she wants to be.

The screen is divided into three, showing Adrien sneaking out as Chat, Marinette not wearing a mask, but very clearly carrying herself like Ladybug and a shot of Chloe putting on her Ladybug mask and looking wistful.

[miraculous-bookshelf]

A Curse of the Heart

by @ladynoirfanao3

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Archive Warning: No Archive Warnings Apply

Category: F/M

Fandom: Miraculous Ladybug

Relationship: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug

Characters:

Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir, Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Tikki (Miraculous Ladybug), Plagg (Miraculous Ladybug)

Additional Tags:

True Love's Kiss, One Shot, Identity Reveal, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, POV Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir

Language: English

Published: 2023-09-19

Words: 2,420

Chapters: 1/1

Summary

Ladybug is deteriorating in front of his eyes, and there is nothing Chat Noir can do about it.

[monpetitchattriste]

Skin and bone

Chapters: 1/27

Fandom: Miraculous Ladybug

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Relationships: Alternate Adrien Agreste | Claw Noir/Alternate Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Shadybug, Alternate Adrien Agreste | Claw Noir & Alternate Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Shadybug, Alternate Adrien Agreste | Claw Noir & Alternate Gabriel Agreste | Betterfly, Alternate Gabriel Agreste | Betterfly & Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug

Characters: Alternate Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Shadybug, Alternate Adrien Agreste | Claw Noir, Alternate Gabriel Agreste | Betterfly, Alternate Alya Césaire, Alternate Nino Lahiffe

Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Hurt/Comfort, Angst, Romance, Slow Burn, Enemy Lovers, Friends With Benefits, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Implied Sexual Content, Alcohol Abuse/Alcoholism, Stand Alone

Summary:

Marinette's mission was simple: help Tikki. But when she uncovers explosive secrets long buried by the rulers of Paris, her entire world tilts. Betrayed and torn, Marinette faces a harrowing choice—save herself or risk it all for the city that has taken everything from her.

Adrien's quest for revenge for his mother's mysterious death takes a dark turn when he discovers the true mastermind behind the tragedy. Determined to make them pay, Adrien realizes that to achieve his goal he must play the long game.

As both fight their own battles, Marinette and Adrien find their paths entwined, often at odds. If they could only align their goals, they might find a way to change the course of their city's future and maybe theirs too.

[starwarsmum]

Officially halfway through the month 🥳 @maribat-calendar-events day 15 of Maribat BioFamily September prompt is Social Media Snafu

Marinette had awoken that morning with a sense of foreboding. Things had been going well for her ever since she had met Cass - a little too well apparently. And given that her good luck had practically imploded in the past two days, she was destined for some bad luck to balance it.

So when she saw that Alya had sent her a link to a news article, she braced herself. Had someone else worked out that she was Ladybug? Had Hawkmoth already found out and was on his way to get her right now?

“Marinette, perhaps you should read the article before working yourself into a panic?” Tikki said, making Marinette realise that she'd been thinking out loud. She grimaced at the Kwami before opening the link. 

To say she was surprised was an understatement and she groaned out loud before slumping onto her desk. Tikki hovered next to her, reading the article over her shoulder and gave a giggle when it became apparent that it was not a life ending problem.

_ _ _

Damian was in a good mood. His father had entrusted him with the task of making contact with the Parisian hero team and he had not only already accomplished this task, but he had gained the trust of Ladybug enough that she had shared her suspicions and theories on who was wreaking havoc on the city.

In the past two days, he had begun to work with her around her other responsibilities and was impressed with how far she had gotten in her investigation. And he had so far managed to respect her wishes not to share her identity with his family, as it wasn't entirely pertinent to their assistance.

So, yes, he was in a good mood which of course meant that something would come along and ruin it. This ruination came in the form of two of his older brothers joining him in Paris to aid in the search. Both Dick and Tim would be arriving later that afternoon and encroaching on his mission. 

He had argued the point several times but to no avail. And now he was getting messages from Jason and Steph, which he chose to ignore for now. He sighed, wondering if it was too soon to call Marinette and work further on their investigation. As it was only 10am on a Friday, she would be at school so he was left to work alone on it and face his brothers when they arrived.

When he got the text from Dick to say that they had landed in Paris, it was close to 3pm. He stretched and set aside the file he had been compiling on Gabriel Agreste, grabbing his phone to message Dick in return. Once that was complete, he decided to indulge Jason and Steph's messages. He was not prepared for the article that they had sent him.

Pyjama girl bags a new hottie!

Pyjama girl, famously known as Adrien Agreste’s girlfriend, has been seen this week in the company of another young, rich socialite. The pair were spotted at a hole-in-the-wall cafe in Paris, looking cosy as they chatted.

So who is this mystery boy, and how much of a threat is he to the young Agreste's relationship with pyjama girl? Well, given that he is the son of notorious playboy Bruce ‘Brucie’ Wayne, perhaps Adrien should look out. 

Damian Wayne is reportedly in Paris to do some work experience with his father's company but when seen in the cafe, they did not appear to be working particularly hard. And when approached by a Wayne Enterprises employee, the infamous ‘Ice Prince’ of Gotham was quick to dismiss them.  

Is Adrien in for heartbreak? Or was this an innocent misunderstanding? Only time will tell!

Beneath the article was a photograph of Marinette and Damian sitting at the cafe table with them both leaning into each other's space. The look on Damian's face wasn't one he had ever seen captured on film previously, and he had mixed feelings. On one hand, he was annoyed that the ever looming paparazzi had caught him speaking with Marinette, but on the other he was glad that the moment had not been lost.

Glancing at the time he groaned. It was not even half an hour until Dick and Tim arrived at the hotel, and doubtless that would have their own opinions on the situation, especially as Tim was a co-CEO of Wayne Enterprises. He didn't know how to successfully head off the veritable storm that was coming his way.

He decided to set the matter aside until confronted with it, but messaged Marinette to let her know he would meet her outside of her school. He did not expect to receive a reply, so was pleased when she sent back a confirmation followed by a smiley face.

Yes, in spite of his family descending upon him, today was a good day.

[katnoiretp2]

Best part of the Miraculous movie was that it inspired me to rewatch Origins. Give me:

Marinette having such a sappy sweet relationship with her dad. Proud to hand out the macarons he made and him to showcase her designs. Adrien choosing to help an old man without a second’s hesitation even though it means giving up what he wanted to do. Dual scenes of Marinette and Adrien meeting their kwamis. Plagg being a little menace and Marinette flipping out at "bug mouse!". Tikki being considerate and gentle in her approach. LadyNoir meeting in such a chaotic way but it's all just so sweet and I already love them and buy into their dynamic fully. Cat Noir being so understanding and kind directly after she causes both his staff and her yoyo to come down on his head. Ladybug choosing for herself to fight the akuma even though she's afraid. Cat Noir calling for his partner's help. Asking what she thinks they should do. Ladybug coming up with an incredibly convoluted plan that somehow works. Cat Noir being enamored by her for it. A first Pound it where both acknowledge they’re partners. Nino befriending Adrien because he realizes there's more to him than "rich model boy" Marinette not even recognizing Adrien despite Gabriel Agreste being her favorite designer. Marinette becoming Ladybug again to save Alya. Cat Noir's innocent punny flirtations. Cat Noir pep talking Ladybug as her doubt and fear of failure get to her. Giving her the courage to stand up to Hawk Moth. Letting everyone in Paris know that Ladybug and Cat Noir will protect them. Cat Noir looking up at her in awe. Proclaiming he loves that girl behind the mask. Adrien showing Marinette his sincere and kind self. The reason she falls for him. His innocent laugh when the umbrella closes in on her. "She's just a friend" as he's overjoyed by the thought.

[immaturityofthomasastruc]

You know seeing that tweet of astruc hating on a fan and telling them to “do better” and “you wouldn’t get the opportunity” because the fan criticized him for saying “the show is what you need and the movie is what you want”, so I’ll do what he asked and do better than him on the aspect I hate the most about the show (besides the shipping and what he did to Chloe) the villains.

Dr.Franklie:a old friend of Gabriel which is the one helping keep Emilie alive in her coffin, eventually Gabriel reaches for him again to help him make permanent Akumas and The doctor does has asked but in reality he wants the miraculous for itself for thinking the human race needs to evolve and he wants it to evolve with him has the emperor of humanity.

Jawbreaker:a teenage boy in Paris has a very bad relationship with he’s parents, a prankster dad which is very aggressive physically and a Cold Mom which is aggressive verbally, he tries to drown he’s stress by dedicating in painting but one day he’s father abandons them and he’s mother blames him, he loses it and 💀, he’s arrested and put on trial but he’s freed by Dr.Franklie which runs test on him using the Akumas Gabriel gave the doctor, he mutate into a monster which ends up absorbing part of the power of destruction from cat noir and it mitates into a bigger monster named Jawbreaker (for he’s always open venom like jaw)

Iron heart:a young girl which has been lost in the streets of Paris since she was young, her family died on a car accident meaning she didn’t have anyone but herself and other criminals of her age to be with. She ended up developing a passion for music but because of her situation that dream kinda died, specially when she was arrested by none other than ladybug while trying to rob the Dupan-cheng’s bakery, but she was freed by Dr.Franklie which mutated her aswell except her entire body got melted into a puddle of meta till she absorbs some creation power of ladybug, she ended up turning into a humanoid monster with her body entirely made out of metal able to bend metal at her will (her villain names comes from he’s Last name “Lion heart” which is the only thing she remembers from her family mixed with her new metallic form)

Queen Astra:Dr.Franklie seeing how he’s monsters (jawbreaker and Iron heart) still hold some humanity, he decides to make a “fake miraculous” and he uses it on a plan with Hawkmoth to use Iron heart,Jawbreaker and a Akuma, all of them together so they can use the fake miraculous on ladybug but it accidentally latches itself with Vesperia, The fake miraculous is actually a artificial parasite designed to be the perfect Monster with no redeeming qualities whatsoever which absorbs the miraculous energy (or any kind of energy) and the AI of the fake miraculous ends up taking over Zoe’s body and mutating her into a energy based being named Queen Astra (from Astraphobia “fear of lightning”) she acts has the right hand and spy to the doctor till she decides it’s time to strike, so she reveals there isn’t a cure for their mutantions causing her mutant partners to riot and not only kill the doctor but also take over all of Paris and they even attack the agreste mansion in a attempt to get the butterfly miraculous, she ends up absorbing so much energy she mutates into a being similar to a kwami (like Tikki using her powers in dearest family) in power and betrays her partners revealing she wants to destroy the human race but she has a weakness which is Zoe’s family which she reuses to hurt even under Atra’s control (for family I mean Mr.Lee,Andre and Chloe. Audrey doesn’t count) at the end her partners and Chloe redeem themselves ripping out the parasite out of Zoe and allowing Ladybug and Cat noir to save the day and destroy Astra queen. Her partners surrender and are put under vigilance in hope they will find a cure for their mutations

I designed each villain to be a mirror to the heroes, Jawbreaker is a mirror to Adrien (instead of a distant family he loves, he has a family he wishes he never saw again. and meanwhile Cat noir Can destroy things Jawbreaker can Break things… which means he can break something apart but I can be fixed) Iron heart and Marinette (Marinette has thousands of friends and family meanwhile Iron heart has nothing, Ladybug Can create meanwhile Iron heart Can Modify preexisting things to make something new) and Astra is a mirror to Chloe (imagine the old seasons Chloe which wasn’t the best person but could get better, meanwhile Astra is just Season 4 and 5 Chloe, I see it has a way to showcase the fans fighting the awful damnation and Double standards the show has on Chloe remembering season 2 Chloe, and the fact they are controlling Zoe is to A-showcase the writers forcing the characters to do things they wouldn’t do, B-showcase how Zoe only existed to take the good out of Chloe, C-being ironical since Zoe is being forced to be a evil person once again except this isn’t something she can reuse to do now, and D-to add emotional stakes, since queen banana they said Zoe will always love her sister and I think if Zoe actually showcased that and tried to help Chloe to stop following her mothers footsteps, would also make the posession and the stakes of the situation all the more tragic and emotional)

Also notice how I said they are redeemed (except the doc and Astra) because they are kids, they didn’t even want to be here, they went through so much stuff I think redemption and rehabilitation is needed and deserved for them. Meanwhile the grown man and the robot die because 1-he’s a grown man which turned children into monsters, he deserves to die, 2-that’s just a machine doing what she was programmed to do, the only way to stop a machine from working is destroying it.

Also I thought of their personality’s to also mirror the heroes

Jawbreaker could be calm and collected but always open for a small joke outside of all the fighting, Iron heart could be loud and energetic always cracking jokes but a very good friend and Astra would be Chloe but smarter, eviler and Sadistic

I never wanted to share any of these because I thought I couldn’t do better and calling my own work better than Astruc’s would be too self centered, not self aware of how obnoxious that sounds, and knowing comparing my work to others and calling my own better is nothing but straight up being a “a**hole”, but in reaction to him being just that big of a I-di-OTA (get it?) I think calling myself better than him is nothing but deserved

The best part with all of these ideas is that even if you showed them to Astruc, he would still come up with a way to explain why they wouldn't work compared to the villains on his show.