#reactionary movements
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do transandrodorks just say radfem when they mean transfem now???? cuz some of these posts are only legible if i make that substitution... surely they wouldn't be placing us in a box that allows them to ignore us as a group if we ever challenge their transmisogynistic actions and masking that fact from others by stealing feminist terms and twisting them for their reactionary rhetoric, i think there's a word for that but i just can't remember it
#it's fascist yall are doing fascy shit fucking stop#it's just textbook reactionary tactics#this shit got used in gamergate already get a new fucking playbook at Least#and stop pretending transandrophobia is anything but a reactionary male supremacy movement
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i do think there are lot of bad actors on radblr both racists, people who swing on the horseshoe to misogyny and those who are hostile to others on here and start petty drama, but i think its important to remember that this is more or less a “bug” of a somewhat insular community on a niche social media platform where anyone can say anything and attract all sorts of terminally online semi-hermits - not so much as a problem of radical feminism in itself. i feel like ive seen a number of ppl on here blame it on the second thing. you can curate your experience on here pretty easily, so its important to block reactionaries and listen to the women you do agree with.
#its much different than like tra/genderist circles on here#which imo attract ten times more of truly insular basement dweller never touches grass discussions#mostly bc trans activism is a very ungrounded reactionary movement in itself#its fairly new and nowhere near as established as radical feminism and misogyny homophobia and racism are baked into it imo
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I’m sure those articles written by ex-terfs looking to deradicalise other terfs do occasionally help, and honestly if you’re an ex-terf I think you are morally obligated to berate the bigots you used to call comrades out of their horrendous belief systems, but whenever I read those articles it’s clear to me that these people still view trans people as research specimens to debate over, they’ve just generously shifted over to the side of “i think exterminating this minority group is bad”
#and they also tend to still have reactionary opinions about sex and gender!#like thanks for no longer thinking the transgendereds are all monsters#but your beliefs are not localised to ‘the trans question’ they exist in a web of beliefs about sex and sexuality#and the role of gender in society more broadly#we will probably see more of these types pop up more and more#as more of them realise they either have to fully buy into fascism or leave their movement#and that’s a net good obviously like I’m glad they’re doing that#it’s just frustrating that they tend to not let go of their abstract view of trans people#like we’re still just a topic to debate on twitter#anyway I need to go vacuum my apartment
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Pride is full of evangelicals that tell queer they want to save us. I know we have plenty of those idiots around these parts but they usually don't talk to you. And this is the first time I see them at a Pride event. There were so many, I kept being offered pamplets and chick tracks. I wish I could stay calm but I told several people to fuck off.
#One of those groups even had a big stall next to parties campaigning for the EU election.#CDU only had a stall for EU center/left ones had stalls for pride#And the CDU guy didn't get I didn't want to talk to some right wing reactionaries.#i am so angry. i really can't keep my cool around those people. i am fuming. i was going to go home soon anyway but now i went home in#anger and in a bad mood.#1.30 h until my silly gay show#wandee goodday save me#i thankfully didn't grow about around religion and religious homophobia#its not somehting i encounter personally even though it is something i spend a lot of time reading about since i find christian#fundamentalism and the evangelical movement fascinating#i could talk about girl defined for hourd on end#but encountering them at pride hits different#i at least witnessed one guy with a bible being told by a police officer that yes he can stand around but he is not to bother people#meins
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#ppl making joke posts about trump getting shot in the ear as if the alt right won't make him a martyr for it#and as if we aren't about to see an escalation of an already insane reactionary fascist movement#whoops#honestly i am sick to my stomach
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Fun fact for the Danny Phantom fandom: the word "ectoplasm" was coined in 1894 by a psychical researcher who didn't believe in life after death AND was a racist who supported eugenics. How fitting, then, that ectoscientists after him would believe that ghosts aren't really sentient.
#in my fics the GIW was founded in the 19th or early 20th centuries as a reactionary backlash to the spiritualist movement#because many prominent spiritualists were abolitionists and socialists and etc OF COURSE there would be a government branch that looked at#that and said Actually Ghosts Are Illegal Now#danny phantom
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People could stand to feel a little worse about being sucked into anti-sjw internet shit in 2014-2016... I don't think it reflects on who they have become and many were sucked in as young kids. But there's a narrative developing that "everyone was just like that then" "it was common to say slurs and believe this stuff then" meanwhile from my perspective there was a shitty minority of people who were invested in making my life worse. Real people were harassed bc of this stuff. Being in HS in this time as a minority fucking sucked, there was an overwhelming feeling that speaking up abt anything put you in danger. I got death threats, rape threats, I got outed to my parents. And then there's kids like Milo Stewart whose life was briefly fucking ruined because they made some videos with a flower crown and fairy lights about leftism 101.
We can all move on and grow, but why do you have to act like no one was giving you other options to listen to?? If everyone was 'like that' then who was being harassed?? Who was the fuel for your YouTube videos and Reddit threads and bullying? 🥴 It sucks to look back and remember you were a shitty person, but it sucks even more to be traumatized for life by harassment
#i was not particularly a good person as a teenager either#but i did not agree with you nor was your behavior normal in public life#AND it was a reactionary movement not something that came before these ideas were heard
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i wonder if labour-based organising is lionised a little too much in leftist spaces.
#things venus said#like outside of ideological concerns... unions have been reactionary forces at the same time they have been liberatory for some#the iww historically consolidated white labour power at the expense of black workers#the sag-aftra strike has ended with people in hollywood no more free to express their opposition to genocide#and to speak of reproductive labour there have been multiple movements based on the idea that women can consolidate their labour-power#that have simply fallen flat in no time
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trans obsessed "radfems" never fail to prove how little they care about womens rights in comparison to just really hating pronouns
#What a lame reactionary movement#Its so hard to defend the roots of radical feminism when most of it has been filled with women just like the jk rowling fangirls#Sad
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Im sorry misandry is not real to me whenever ppl talk about the effects of misandry they bring up moc what they’re really talking about is racism from a group that’s also marginalized and how playing into pre existing stereotypes about black men (which are results of patriarchy and racism above all else) impacts them. Saying misandry puts it on the same level of misogyny and it’s not! It’s all misogyny the same way “men can’t show emotions” isn’t a whole different system than “women are called hysterical” it’s the same shit! The difference is who gets pandered to and who doesn’t and that almost always falls into race and class; not men bc they’re men lmao.
#so much misandry is reactionary#like it’s shit that can only exist or be perpetuated online#and I don’t like the terminology making it seem like women in general have this social power over men in general#ur trying to break down and explain the thought process of many different ppl who reach a similar conclusion#like this one’s fear is combining with that one’s racism is combining with the other ones apathy for everything#that’s not a whole movement against men on par with any other bigotry#that’s goals aligning and the results are too scattered to call it misandry imo#cause it ends up in this one being racist that one being classist and the other one as it turns out is talking about 3 ppl and in fact does#center men and will throw the other two under the bus to do it
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I think it's very human to associate aesthetics with morality and assume that the two are intrinsically linked, and to counteract that instinct I think it's important to be able to understand the context of artwork and acknowledge the importance of it while also thinking that it is ugly as sin. Really makes you grasp the concept that the two are firmly seperate.
#THIS IS ABOUT CUBISM. CUBISM IS UGLY AS FUCK BUT ALSO A REALLY IMPORTANT ART MOVEMENT FOR THE EVOLUTION OF AVANTGARDE ART#AND MINIMALISM. FUCK YOUR WHITE CUBES!!!! DIE!!!!!!!!!!#BUT ALSO A LOT OF BACKLASH AGAINST MINIMALISM IS WEIRD REACTIONARY BULLSHIT AND IT MAKES ME MADDDDDDD#talking at you whether you like it or not
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it's kinda wild how effective the alt right playbook is at covering broad reactionary tactics cuz a ton of them are recognizable in tmra's argumentation style and rewatching them has been a nice resource for building awareness to clock their bullshit
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"of course a book written more than a century ago is not going to be in line with contemporary values" well skill issue. witbd continues to be more progressive than most opinions i hear from people around me
#that's a joke.#but some people seem to think that feminism was invented in 21th century or something#no 'everyone' didn't 'think like that' 'back then'#if you claim to be aware of the features of time you have to acknowledge all the emancipatory ideas&movements that arose in that time!#and that the reactionary author you are reading was in fact reactionary#unless you are like talking about plato. but i mostly see people talking like that about books written like at most two hundred years ago.#chernyshevsky posting
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Excited for whatever dadaist art movements are starting as a reaction to generative AI
#i feel like we'll see a weird hard limit to what the machines can produce#and that will be the direction a reactionary movement would strive in
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the urge to apply political thought to Arcane
#i mean i indulge that urge all the time anyway#arcane#but yeah i'm reading fanon and he's talking about outlets for violence of colonized people#and how a movement needs to have a coherent will behind violence lest it become reactionary
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Thank you for your tags on the baeddalism post. As someone who is aroace (formerly biace) and a nb transmasc I've literally watched every identity I have be dragged into discourse time and time again and it's always the exact same rhetoric to a nauseating degree. People are so terminally online that they constantly invent new nonexistent stereotypes of other queer identities to get mad at or just pick a queer identity to be the monster of the week, and it's excruciating to see it repeat the same way everytime.
I wanted to try to respond to this more eloquently after i had some caffeine, but if we wait for eloquence itll go unanswered for years. but lmao yea of course. Im also aroace and enby. I was here since like 2014, I suffered through reading all these same stupid arguments about a-specs and my tolerance for it is so fried. The queer infighting and gatekeeping bullshit is so rotting. I hope we learn one of these days. My disillusion that this keeps fucking happening is at least tempered by the fact that all the blogs who I followed for good takes on inclusionism and queer solidarity during the acecourse are also not tolerating this shit, and they are recognizing it as the same old bullshit its been the whole time.
#asks#tiredtief#i am so bad at actually Arguing w ppl so i try to avoid engaging directly as usual but i continue my tradition of#steaming in the fucking tags lmao#anyway hi. welcome. ill follow back. u seem nice#also i wish it was just terminally online brainrot but unfortunately i think this shit predates the internet#and this shit = ppl being stupid bitchy assholes to each other. i have an unfortunate feeling that it is merely an extension of the old.#call yourself a community organizer but youre not on speaking terms with your ex roommates thing. and its annoying ppl#applying like toxic friend group drama dynamics to a marginalized community cos they cant help but pick fucking fights i guess#my point is ppl have probably been being stupid toxic assholes about community since we started being people and having community#and it sucks and its always sucked but we made it this far. so hopefully we can keep going to go be stupid assholes to each other in the#future. i worry this is coming across as misanthropic. its only a little misanthropic. humans is humans. not good or bad but also i think#as social animals we are fundamentally fucking Annoying. i want to believe that we can like. get to a point where we stop arguing about#peoples identities like this. and maybe we will. but we will almost certainly be arguing about some other dumb shit. hopefully like some#low stakes fandom discourse or sports teams. discourse is brainrot but getting into meaningless arguments with fans of a different sports#team does fundamentally feel like a healthier expression of toxicity than starting queer separatist movements in the name#of protecting vulnerable ppl while not realizing that seperatism is just Isolating vulnerable ppl making them more susceptible to all the#harms you claim to want to prevent. dont ever fall for the reactionary exclusionist kool aid folks. even if they frame it as#reactionary seperatism. thats bad for you and your whole community youre cutting yourself off from and we cant be doing that shit#with fucking fascism impending everywhere and shit that targets and harms all of us up on the chopping block. goddddd#anyway. i need to go to the store.
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