#rattrap fucking dies

[keklordkaotic]

must I say more, fool . Transformers go go comic. You. draw evil drawings. all blame will be put on you and not me.

Yeah, yeah, I know what you REALLY want, o’ sibling, mine. You’re LUCKY I’m interpreting this request as something along the lines of ‘draw me a dinotrap comic’ and not ‘redraw this exact comic page with zero alterations.’

Well, after much toil and suffering on my part, here it is. I’m shit at paneling comics, but screw it. I considered coloring this but that would take me a few extra days and this has already taken me a hot minute to complete.

Panel by panel under the cut:

[callsign-relic]

beast! wars! live! blog!

i finally got the time to sit down and watch more yaaaaaay <3

EP5

IS THAT FUCKING STONEHENGE (part 2)

scorponok fallin on his face after just standing around uselessly... best worst SIC.

CHEETORS LIL THUMBS UP

where that beam go......... "we might find out some day"

OH. NOW, APPARENTLY. it be probe time.

AH YES the- HUH?? HUH????? i was gonna make a joke abt this being the stone that kills you BUT THEN OP GOT FUCKING ZAPPED OUT OF EXISTENCE WHAT THE FUCK

"maximal...... TORTURE CHAMBER" Dinobot no,,,

Rattrap: "who died and made you prime?" well i mean......... OP did kinda get vaporised into nothing.

oh head??? WH. WHY ARE THEY COMIN OUTTA CUM POOLS why are the regeneration chambers for the Maximals some sorta pod and the Predacons have The Cum Pools

"Scorponok LOATHES Tarantulas and Terrorsaur!!" oh, so Scorpnok just has objectively bad taste i see (/j /j) I love the delivery on that line though ehdkfbdk

Megatron wigglin his little ARMS... his lil trex arms...

oh!! Dinobots SPINE is on the outside. and. it wraps around his crotch too???? i have many questions about the use of the animals internals as parts of their body/weaponry. mostly the question is "... why?" because surely thats. not necessary.

not that im complaining though. i think its sick as hell fhdkfbdk but im forever thinking about the guts gun now that you pointed it out and oh my god i realised that Dinobots tail is also the thing he flails around i think. is his spinny sword thing meant to be the bones of his tail....

comMANDER rattrap

theres smth sooo fucked up abt Rhinox's teeth being on his chest like that. why is Mouth on the outside.

WAOH?? he has a Machine Gun Saw Thing. What even is this weapon.

WHAT THE HELLLLLLL. it really is a mysterious probe... it disappeared into nothing.

i wonder when we'll find out the answer. surely not... next episode...? <- fully prepared to be wrong about this.

EP6

TERRORSAUR COMIN OUTTA NOWHERE AND EATIN THE DRAMATICALLY SOARING EAGLE HRJRLFJDKWNDV??

can he even eat eagles?

why is the energon deposit FLOATING...

i, Terrorsaur, am the new leader of the predacons!

i love that Megatron is just like. "this again?"

Megatron: guy who falls normally down cliffs (genuine)

OH SHIT HE JUST GOT DISMEMBERED?

im sure he'll be okay later but DAMN

Terrorsaur: "yessssssss..." >:0 is the yesss thing actually just a side effect of becoming the leader of the predacons...

Tarantulas is in charge while Terrorsaur is gone... Terrorsaur has a better taste in SICs I see- oop nvm that spider is off to do nefarious deeds.

Scorponok is a truly terrible SIC except for the fact that he's very loyal to Megatron LMAO

TBH. with how all the other Predacons are, that is a very valuable asset... too bad he's terrible at his job.

WAIT WHERES TARANTULAS GONE. ahrjdofhek OH there he is.

i lvoe that rattrap is just PUNCHIN Tarantulas. go get him my dude.

OH FUCK YES ITS TARANTULAS FALLING DOWN CLIFF TIME

I DIDNT KNOW IT HAPPENED SO EARLY

Tarantulas: guy who falls normally down cliffs!!! (lying)

EPIC. he makes so many fucked up noises.

WDYM THEYR JUMPING. its a floating island! that's exploding!!

"ehh you weren't so bad yourself. but dont tell anybody i said so." aw rattrap has a reputation to uphold...

tbh the jumping off of the floating island works pretty well for establishing trust between Rattrap and OP... i can get behind that.

EP7

OH?? stasis pod? time for new character?

i love dinobots transformation from beast to bot mode because it does just look like he goes to rip his chest open with his spindly little arms each time.

MOST awkward elevator ride with Dinobot and OP.

waspinator gets crushed by big rock like hes a cartoon character.........

oh no! precarious bridge over large chasm. surely nothing will happen to it.

what ARE they going to use to bounce the transmission to the pod???

OH SHIT Megatron actually has some really good plans. these are GOOD strategies that would probably work if everyone was better at their jobs

CASE IN POINT: Scorponok just standing there stupidly after Tarantulas gets shot to hell by the ships automated weaponry is SO funny my god.

like, he KNOWS whats coming. the TENSION though.

THEY BOUNCE THE TRANSMISSION OFF THE MOON?????

oh!! kitty... TWO

Dinobot's back in the maximal torture chamber!

oh Megatron REALLY couldnt trust them to get the pod huh. they are doing their best to get it open but their best isnt very good.

THE POD IS EMPTY. WHERE IS KITTY TWO.

Tigatron... :0!!! i like that hes mint coloured. minty fresh!

his voice compared to everyone else sounds So Normal its throwing me off shfjfbdj hes too Smooth... it's a REALLY nice voice though.

:0 hes gonna stay in the wilds to continue being a tiger... farewell sweet prince. until we meet again......

im begging u tumblr. let me use readmores in asks. i feel like these are all really long but SO MUCH HAPPENS...

- initiate

A NEW INITIATE BEAST WARS LIVEBLOG LETS GOOOOOO

Genuinely I was feeling stressed rn (the stresses are mostly over though lol) and this helped cheer me up so thank you so much HAHAHA.

I totally agree with you about being fascinated on how the designs work for this show! How they use every single piece of the animal for even their weapons, like Dinobot’s tail-sword! Which has quite a few different canonical names somehow which I found funny HAHA

TIGATRONNNN he’s finally here!!!! He’s definitely a calmer character than the rest of the cast so yeah I could understand why it’s a bit jarring at first! I love the detail that he feels more connected to his animal side than his bot side, so as he’s still a Maximal he works as their scout out on the field :] that way he can still be part of the team and be with nature!! I’m looking forward to seeing your reaction to more moments with him ehehe

And Scorponok once again is the worst SIC HAHAHA.

[skylarkking]

Ships that make me go FERAL. 🔞

Tfp Ratchet x Optimus. These two... oh my fucking God these two. I imagine Ratchet being a valvedom here and having Optimus on a leash as foreplay whenever the pair were alone with eachother. Like just the thought of Optimus whimpering for release as Ratchet touches every sensitive spot on him. Fucking amazing. Plus there is such a gay romance between them in tfp that makes my heart go wee!

Tfa Shockwave x Blurr. Tiny doms are my FAVORITE thing. Blurr being absolutely tiny compared to Shockwave yet being able to make the Decepticon become a begging whining mess is just *chefs kiss*. I also think this ship would be one of those super tragic ones if it ever happened in cannon and I think it came about because of how Shockwave's voice somewhat wavered when he crushed Blurr.

MTMTE Megatron x Rung. *incoherent feral goblin noises*

Armada Megatron x Optimus. Now let me explain something to you all. This show (at least the English dub) is RIDDLED with homoerotic sexual tension. In all other continuities that I've seen thus far (aside from MTMTE and MAYBE earthspark [which idk because I have yet to watch earthspark]) when Optimus fucking dies the Megatron of that continuity REJOICES! But Armada Megatron? No, he fucking MOURNS! He straight up cries out for him and has a massive "I've won, but at what cost?" Moment.

Cyberverse Hot Rod x Soundwave. Do I need to explain myself with this one? Of course I do because I'm a fucking degenerate! I KNOW these two bastards have the nastiest, angriest interface sessions EVER! I'm talking full on BDSM shit where it's not just a frag session, but a battle of dominance. At first these sort of things were merely angry frags just to get off, but over time they became ADDICTED to eachother. So much so that the hate slowly became love. And when Soundwave sacrificed himself and was no more, I think a piece of Hot Rod died with him.

G1 Starscream x Skyfire. Look okay just... just listen. I headcannon that for YEARS Starscream blamed himself for the disappearance of Skyfire and that made him extremely cold on the inside. When the Decepticons found Skyfire Starscream literally was battling with guilt the entire time and was doing everything to make amends with the one he loved only to lose him again. This time, to the Autobots.

BW Dinobot x Rattrap. Gotta love a good hate fuck.

Cyberverse chromia x windblade. THESE TWO! AHHHHHHH GIVE ME THE LESBIAN LOVE THEY DESERVE EACHOTHER OMG!!!! I ENVY I ENVY I FUCKING ENVY!

Tfa Lockdown x Swindle. Fucking greedy little leeches the both of them. They would have the roughest interface and Lockdown would have to gag Swindle to prevent the bot from trying to negotiate (since he HAS to make a deal due to his greed programming that is hardwired into him). But despite being rough with eachother I think they genuinely love eachother. They just are too prideful to fully say it.

[chefbeepo]

I CAN'T be the only one who ships dinobot and rattrap, right???

SPOILERS FOR BEAST WARS:::

Like, they've been enemies forever. That already gives shipping rights.

Also rattrap calls him lizard lips all the time ��🤨

When dinobot is kicking predicon ass as the crew are on their way, rattrap is the first to voice genuine concern. He sounds genuinely worried too like-

And when he sees dinobot dying, he gasps (so loud, mega sad) and looks very upset. I know they're crew mates but out of ALL of them, he reacted the strongest...

And as he's dying beside all his homies, him and rattrap are holding hands. Not just one hand neither, rattrap does the like. Hand sandwich hold. The meaningful one.

Rattrap is like "you're such a fucking bitch ya know bitch ass predifuck and shit. But it's good to know what side ur on" 😫😫😫

And then Dinobot replies "I took you for reference" And shit like that. And then rattrap does a big ol smile ya know.

And when dinobot finally dies, rattrap does like a. Hand hold to ur head thing. All sad like. And he's the first to salute him also.

Idk I feel like the death scene said soooo much abt them. I haven't seen them yet in other media, except the crossover issues with mtmte and rid and rattrap is sorta starscreams advisor. But like, this was the og so I feel like it has more weight?

I'm sure the writers didn't intend it at all, as is with many ships. But is very ship worthy material. And I don't see much hype around it.

Lemme know if you kno any tags and what not for their ship cuz I wanna know fr

[cyclocks]

My silly insane totally not autistic rant about beast wars

(minor shpoliers up to ep 12)

M.my brain is orgasming rn

Ok so first of all this episode or this whole series actuslly is so good at making me care about all the characters. I love Dinobot and Rattrap acting like siblings that hate each other but also Optimus and Dinobots acting like old dads sometimes. I also just love Optimus in this show cuz he's so fucking real?? They managed to write him like a really dependable leader that everyone relies on but not like tfp did it, he just feels so real and I love when he jokes around and I love when he's serious and I loved when he left a ship that was about to go to his fucking HOME PLANET to save Dinobot. Absolute peak character. Also I love how Rhinox got the spotlight for a little while this episode. I feel like Rhinox only really gets the background role as the science guy who the whole show actually kinda depends on but as soon as he makes his new invention or system for the episode he's kinda pushed out of the way. Love Rhinox I wanna see him fight more. One thing I don't like that much about this show is how little the predacons have screentime. Megatron Lowkey doesn't feel like the big bad main villain sometimes but I don't actually really care that much cuz the show is already so good. Also I love how when I'm watching a beast wars episode and I know it has to have a happy ending where nobody dies and and the Maximals usually get to take the W, but the amount of tension it can deliver despite all this is just.bgjsjsbsbdjsn I FUCKINGLOVE BEAST WARS

Also I wanna see Optimus and Dinobot making out at least once

[mocacheezy]

Watched Rise of Beasts with @minoan-ophidian today, so here are some of my scrambled sleepy thoughts (under readmore bcs of spoilers)

Mirage made me cry there near the end, HE CANNOT DIE AFTER ALL THIS. He grew up on me and I started caring about him so quick.

I loved how both Noah and Optimus are just trying to look out for their own people but come together in the end. NOAH AND PRIMAL SAVING PRIME WAS ALSO A MOMENT WHERE I JUST WENT YES

Birb wife died and I really, really hoped she wouldn't. I thought that was cosmic rust or something of the like. Atleast Primal was able to come to terms and make her suffering end.

Speaking of Airrazor, I cannot believe she didn't tell others she has been hurt, like Elena saw it and said it doesn't look good, they probably wouldn't be able to completely reverse it but like... Rhinox or Cheetor could stay with her? Or they would know to watch out for her, instead our poor girl looks like she's corroding and gets brainwashed by Scourge.

Elena asking Primal if the Maximals are responsible for things the ancient civilizations accomplished and him chuckling before saying they had nothing to do with it and can't take credit for human ingenuity/imagination ... I do not remember the exact words, but I am OVER THE MOON LIKE YES!! YES, THE CIVILIZATIONS HAD CONTACT BUT THE ALIENS WEREN'T WHY THEY EXISTED AND CREATED MANY AMAZING THINGS!!! I LOVED THAT!

Primal communicating and trusting the humans, the Maximals being part of the community for 100 of years, being able to trust their safety and the safety of the transwarp key... It made me emotional, especially with how Prime initially reacts to having humans help

It also made me panic a lil when Primal entrusts Noah and Elena with the key, because HE BELIEVES NO HARM WILL COME TO IT. AND NOAH ALMOST DESTROYS IT!!! LIKE!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAA!!!!!

PRIME DIDN'T DIE THANK FUCK!!! I know these are supposed to be the prequels to Bayverse movies, but honestly? There could be some mumbo jumbo conjured up as to why "he might be dead, or maybe he survived". It's nice there was no need for that.

I wasn't sure Bee was going to come back, and boy am I glad there were those energon deposits on Earth

I did not expect Wheeljack. I forgot he was here, and tbh if his name was smth else that would be perf fine. But eyo.

Nightbird is my love, my life, gender goals, the queen, I am presenting my throat and I would let her slice it willingly like MA'AM. The non-binary energy as soon as she came on screen was yes. Just yes yes yes. Perfection. My she/he/they (ona/on .com) self is ECSTATIC, I love her. If I cosplay transformers in the future she is absolutely one of the characters

Arcee was so gorgeous, my bi heart was all doki doki

Scourge was also super cool and I really enjoyed the interactions with Unicron and how Prime killed him. Fucker deserved it.

Tbh I want to keep going but my eyes are falling shut from all the energy my excitement burned up so lemme just say

GREAT MOVIE!

LOVED IT!

WENT IN WITH NO EXPECTATIONS AND MINIMAL KNOWLEDGE, AND HAD AN AWESOME TIME

If I had to rate it, it would be 9.8/10, with that 0.2 just me wishing the Maximals talked more and that Barney came in frame, said Yeeeesssssss and got punched in the face by Primal. Rattrap would be too powerful if he was in the movie, he would steal all the spotlight off of Mirage, so his absence is understandable.

And @ my slovene peeps, Cineplexx theater is INSANELY GOOD folks, Supernova Rudnik delivered quality experience, 3D očala so izredno prijazna za nas špeglarje. Pokovka je gromozanska, in slushy tasted great.

So yeah, GREAT TIME, I RECCOMEND THE MOVIE, and here are pics of the earrings I made and wore to the cinema!

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beest warbs s2

andddddd ruth and i finished s2!!

new opening! which is mostly just clips from the s1 finale

ok i guessed that optimus would come back bc like, duh. but i was surprised that he didnt come back like, Instantly 

the new transmetal forms............................ugliy

sorry bhjsdkrhfjkasfk i dont like them....i cant believe im saying it but i prefer the cgi animals from s1 😩 it made sense! it tied into the premise of the show! now theyre just these weird shiny robo-animals...who also can fly and drive around and stuff...nah fam that aint it

cheetor doesnt even have freckles anymore 😭

also as the season went on the whole ‘energon shorts out robot forms, which necessitates beast forms’ thing was kinda quietly dropped, which doesnt make 100% sense since not that many characters got the transmetal forms

the funniest fucking thing is that the s2ep1 summary was literally just ‘terrorsaur and scorponok fucking die’ and THAT WAS IT hjdfksjkfjadfhjlad ruth and i saw that and were like HUH???

and honestly their deaths were so abrupt and unceremonious that i seriously would not have even known they had Legit Died if it hadnt been for that summary. i literally wouldve thought that theyd just end up going in a CR chamber and it wouldve been confusing as hell when they didnt come back lmaooooo

so yeah rip beta cuck and diet diet starscream lite i guess

ok and ep 2 was wild, with dinobot going on ANOTHER Shakespeare soliloquy spree, and then all that western stuff at the end??????

that was so fucking weird and hilarious. wtf 

also have i mentioned...i love dinobot. dramatic gay bitch 

also....new characters! silverbolt and quickstrike are here to quickly replace terrorsaur and scorponok lmaoooo

why does quickstrike have a southern accent when the south doesnt even exist yet as a cultural region

i love how immediately obvious it was that silverbolt was not gonna stay a predacon for long lmao

and then optimus primal returns!! looking wack as FUCK 

hvhakjdfnbskjdf sorry but i dont like his new look at all lmao. he looks weird as hell in both robot mode and “beast” mode, and im not into the whole flying snowboard thing...whats that abt

when dinobot rode around on rattrap vjhsdlfjkashdbhfjk that was so fucking funnyyyy

i cant get over megatrons new form w/the Evil Rollerskates™ thats just. so much lmaooooo but also mood bc if i could i would totally have built-in rollerskates 

did yall know i love tarantulas....that gay mad scientist bitch is hilarious

also i knew ahead of time that silverbolt and blackarachnia have a Thing but it was still soooo Much when they fought and then silverbolt refused to hit her bc shes a girl bsvdkjnfasndf

ruth: OH MY GOD HES A SIMP

ok and the ep where dinobot goes back to the predacons...bro...and everything w/the golden disk too?? that was wild 

ALSO I CANT BELIEVE AIRAZOR AND TIGATRON GOT FUCKING KIDNAPPED??? HELLO????

are they like. coming back? ever????? that was just It for them this season uhhhh so i guess we’ll have to hope they return in s3? omg

also quick shoutout to the infamous japanese dub of beast wars which accidentally made some canon gays by making airazor a dude. great job guys 

ohhhh my god when theres that alien ship thing and megatron is in it and then a big version of his face appears on the side of the ship? horrible

also i feel like beast wars megatron spends half his screentime sitting in various chairs...even when he went into that alien ship he ended up finding a big fancy chair to sit in

so yeah all that alien stuff was WILD. we still know so little abt them so im rlly interested to see if more will come up in s3 (im assuming at least a little since airazor and tigatron have to come back). like, are we gonna learn what theyre trying to do on earth? what they look like? etc?

ok silverbolt is always talking abt how blackarachnia is a good maximal on the inside and she just needs to embrace it etcetc, to me it feels like he’s a religious guy whos trying to get the girl he likes to accept jesus into her heart so they can be together hbvhajkdhbfhjksd sorry 

also silverbolt is hilarious. he’s like, a hammy simp. the way he talks is rlly entertaining lol

also theyve been namedropped a couple times so far, but what the heck is up w/the maximal council or whatever? they seem to be the ones in charge of the maximals (and presumably cybertron?), but we know literally nothing abt them...im curious

ooomg and rampage...everything w/rampage was sooo fucked like him being basically immortal is wild, and then he showed up and was tearing shit up all over the place, and then megatron fucking...removed his spark and was like You Work For Me Now. daymmmm that was so fucked up 

and he seemed to calm down after the first ep so i was like mannn i wish they would address the whole thing where megatrons controlling him - tho the maximals dont even seem to know abt it, they probably just think rampage joined them on his own. oof

and lbr even if they did know, they probably wouldnt be super motivated to free him since rampage attacked them previously, and likely wouldnt join the maximals even if given the choice

oh my god okay hold up i cant forget that DINOBOT FUCKING DIED i cant fucking believe it mate. GOD

i miss that gay moron 😔

also aside but the pre-human monkey people look soooo fucking janky hbvajkdhfjkhsdf god. so bad im sorry

oh my god and the whole thing w/the golden disc saying ‘sounds of earth...’ ruth and i saw that inscription earlier in s2 and ruth was like ‘oh isnt that a real thing, they sent out the Voyager probe into space w/a disc that has different sounds from nature and music and stuff on it called ‘sounds of earth” AND THEN THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT THIS WAS...

i thought that was so cool, the fact that the golden disc could basically be used to look into the future...and then alter the future accordingly

its also super cool that the writers used something from REAL LIFE in the story in such a way. like, thats cool as hell, and idk much media that does so

especially bc beast wars is one of very few transformers series to not include any human characters (discounting the monkey pre-humans), so this is a really cool way to involve humanity without having any recurring human cast members

when dinobot nearly committed seppuku...uhm jesus bro

and then when he fought off all the predacons ALONE, and then FUCKING DIED...that was legit sad as hell...like he kept almost going into stasis lock but kept overriding it which was gonna kill him and AUGH

and then when the maximals show up as he’s dying...mannnn

and his last words - “and the rest is silence.” poetic and quoting Shakespeare until the literal end I see

basically that episode was fucking brutal but also really good. phew

AND THEN ITS FOLLOWED UP BY THE TRANSMUTATE EPISODE...ruth and i watched these two eps back to back in one night and afterwards we were basically braindead. that was A Lot 

the transmutate ep HHHHH where to even start

ok so transmutate...the whole story was just fucking tragic but also. TERRIFYING...

like this ep gave me the same vibes that i got when i watched the movie ET in like 4th grade and got scared as hell 

like, i am a Full Grown Adult and NOT ONLY THAT i had a job in a cadaver lab for like 5 YEARS so i generally am not easily scared but holy SHIT this episode legit unsettled me liiiike

the design and animation (and voice acting) on transmutate were like....terrifying oh my god. like, the way she(?) moved was so scary, with the slow movements and just, everything w/the neck/head....AUGH

and that like, pained screech she did ???? that was just horrible oh my god

anyways literally ruth and i spent this entire ep just like, cowering and yelling out of fear lmao. i went outside in the dark later and i swear i saw transmutate in the shadows. terrifying

in terms of the plot of the ep, that shit was fucked up. it basically amounted to silverbolt and rampage fighting over transmutate w/little regard for transmutate as a person, and ending w/her dying. which was fucked btw

and the fact that everyone was like ‘oh yea transmutate basically doesnt count as an alive sentient being’ was messed up bc they came to that conclusion very quickly and with only a small amount of data....messed up. also messed up is how the maximals suggested putting transmutate in like, a medically induced coma basically, bc she was a freak of nature. which may be true but STILL, that probably violates some ethical laws. arent yall supposed to be the good guys?!

also rampage trying to befriend and save transmutate was sad...especially knowing his circumstances w/megatron and stuff. just Ls all around

ok this cuts off abruptly but thats all folks ig vbajdkfbjksdf

[tazzykiki]

4, 6, 9. and 10. For the ask game! :)

Which tf character is your favorite in terms of personality?

Well obviously there's my man Store Bought Ice Cream. He varies so much across every continuity and yet I love each and every one of them. From devious scheming gremlin to noble warrior who needs a hug to fucked up guy who commits various atrocities. The bot's got range! He is such star much screaming <3

Bayverse Crosshairs is also fun. While I do like bayverse to an extent, it is a very immense compliment to say a character has a definitive personality in that universe lmaoo. But yeah Crosshairs there is so fun, I love his morally dubious nature and constantly having to be kept an eye on. Not to mention he's just an overall badass. Him, Hound, and Drift almost tricked me into rewatching TLK ahjsdk

Beast Wars and Armada Megatron are also very very fun! Yesss, their suaveness is so funny and I love how simultaneously badass and hilarious they can be. Beast Wars Megan is so dramatic, I'm still losing it over him wearing a wholeass judge wig just to decide if he should kill a traitor or not ahsjdkfg.

Armada Megan is also incredibly fun and is actually my favorite meg so far. He's got THE BEST design of all the megans and this weird complexity you wouldnt expect from first glances. The fact he was legit sad not only after Optimus died but also after Starscream died as well??? The fact he treats his men with some bits of respect and is so weirdly chill?? The fact he rightfully called Thrust a Squid-Head??? I love beetle megs <3

Speed Round:

Love Dinobot's scrunkliness, drama, and casual cannibalism.

Rattrap's rude ass who invented curse words.

Love Nightshade's entire theatrical vibe and elegant nobleness, can't wait to see more of them!

Rescue Bots Blades is a mood and also incredibly funny.

Chase is pretty much just Zane from Ninjago agshdjfkg, just with less dying and genocide.

Doc Greene is the sweetest dad and we need more of him in the world <3.

TFP Arcee is a badass whose growth throughout the show from loner, to angry vengeance lady, to chilled out mentor is so good.

Black Arachnia in every continuity I've seen because holy shit is she an amazingly complex character who I absolutely want to see more of.

Alexis Thi Dang is a badass who not only befriended DepressionScream, but also talked shit to both Galvatron and Unicron and came out on top.

and uh a bunch more there's like a million of these guys!

Which tf character do you relate to the most?

Fred from Armada because I too love food and will happily bring along supplies to make pancakes when running away with a group of my dearest friends who would never abandon me and the 3 parts of War Crime Gun From Space.

Which tf character do you think you’d get along with really well?

TFP Ratchet because I'm pretty quiet and keep to myself.

The Malto kids because I am their aunt now and I love them. Ice cream for everyone!

I think I could vibe with like every Optimus, he is my dad after all.

Fred from Armada, I would never abandon him and we could make food together for THOSE UNGRATEFUL MFERS WHO DONT APPRECIATE GOOD CUISINE.

Cyberverse Cheetor and I would just make random noises together for like an hour.

Which tf character do you think you’d get along with really badly?

I know Silverbolt gets better and chills out by the last half of the season and onwards(tho I havent watched Beast Machines yet), but I would have drowned that mfer in Respect Women Juice istg!!!

The moment I set eyes on Silas I send out my psychic death beams <3

I feel like there's like one or two more but I can't think of any

[moosekababs]

cw spoilers for beast machines and beast wars

so i just finished beast machines and i have a lot of thoughts and feelings, specifically about rattrap

ok so i will admit i don't know much about rattrap before beast wars. but im looking at this scene of him hugging botanica at the end of beast machines and the implications. the implications of his character in this series is fucking astounding. like i know i'm definitely reading too much into it but like. He starts doing more tinkering and tech-minded stuff because rhinox is fucking kill., so he becomes the team nerd. dinobot is gone and theres one scene where he tells nightscream "You'll understand when you're older" when nightscream is watching black arachnia be like, hyperfocused on silverbolt, and i can't help but feel like that's a callback to his reaction to dinobot's death. Like, he personally understand what insane shit love can drive someone to do (and yes i consider dark glass canon why do you ask).

And then the whole thing where he works with megatron, that's probably one of my favorite episodes of beast machines because its so stylistically gorgeous, but also like. His best friend(rhinox) and love interest(dinobot) are dead, he's one of the last people of his species alive, he's woken up expecting to be home and away from the hostile environment of the beast wars, His autonomy has been all but stripped from him, and he feels useless and angry and hurt. And then botanica comes around and he treats her much the same way he treated dinobot, and they grow like, hostile-ly dependent on each other, like seeing each other as strong enough to withstand verbal abuse and leaning into that role because it feels good to have something direct to be angry about, and it feels good to EXPRESS that anger, and they can both take it so they don't really worry about hurting feelings or whatever. and then she almost fucking DIES, basically right after they kiss in the middle of an argument, and neither of them know how to handle the kiss but then she's fucking DYING and he barely manages to save her life by doing something exceedingly risky, and then like, independent of her and the fledgling romantic situation, he has to try and make this split second decision about saving all the sparks in the giant head ship thing, and he fucks up and he literally says WHAT DID I DO? and covers his face with his hands and it just gets BLOWN THE FUCK OVER. AND THEN WE'RE IN THE FUCKING AFTERMATH. AND HES LIKE. WHERES BOTANICA. and she SHOWS THE FUCK UP and THEY HUG AND HE LIKE. NUZZLES HER SHOULDER AND IM JUST. BABY BOY. MY LITTLE RAT MAN. MY BELOVED BABY RAT AAAAAAAAAA

like i know i'm reading way too much into him and his character but god fucking damn. im happy he got a decently happy ending. like i would have preferred it be with dinobot but im happy he got a decent ending at all

[wingwaver]

Sorry I neglected this poll it's been a hell of a work week.

Here's the lie:

Megatron has Skywarp kill a human child in front of Optimus Prime!

In the victory manga, The Emperor of Destruction Deathsaurus is shown to be afraid of caterpillars

While I don't have the manga translations myself you can find them online with some digging.

In Robots in Disguise 2001 Megatron uses an unformed Autobot Pod to scan tanker truck that also scans Optimus Prime, who is holding the truck to keep it from tipping over and exploding, to create Scourge. Megatron notes to Scourge that he is infused with Megatron's spark, but also of Optimus. It is later revealed that Scourge is 1/3rd human as well, as the scanning process also scanned Kelly, the human woman driving the truck. Family reunions must be intense, and don't even get them started over who pays the child support.

If you'd like to check the series out here are the links to the sub and dub on YouTube!

In Super God Masterforce Episode 5 (aka the episode that absolutely blindsided my nephew and me) the junior team is trying to rescue survivors and stop the Destron's rampage through a city. Minerva saves a little girl and her puppy, but upon seeing Shuta and Cab getting beaten up the puppy leaps from the girl's arms to go bark at Wilder, who, in response, kicks the dog and sends it flying before falling unto the pavement with whimpers. The dog then dies in the little girl's arms while she begs him to wake up.

This is where I put the link up for the place for you to watch this show but man if you don't like animal death just skip episode 5 I promise no more puppies are harmed after episode five. Also I don't care if he's 16, fuck Wilder! All my homies hate Wilder!

As edited in the main post I fucked up the wording here, Rattrap and Arcee are related. Rattrap mentions Arcee being his great aunt, which begs the question of who her sibling was in G1 🤔?

You ever wanted to experience that dashing rat above in 4K? Here you go! The entirety of Beast Wars in 4K on YouTube!

Meet Heinrad from Beast Wars Neo!

He turns into a tanuki!

The big golden thing on his torso is actually a stop watch that he can use to stop time with! Though it's only for a few seconds. Still, he's used his time powers to help his team escape death quite a few times. If you'd like to see him in action (or inaction more like it as he prefers to nap and cook than to fight) then you can find Beast Wars Neo here on YouTube!

In the IDW1 comics, Shockwave ends up face to face with Onyx Prime, one of the 13 original Cybertronians and God of beastformers, and immediately kills him and takes his place by using the God's corpse to disguise himself (making Shockwave the first ever cybertronian to own a fursuit).

He proceeds to sow discord throughout the other 13 and rewrite the timeline's history and religion to his whim. Here is a YouTube video that goes into a brief summary of IDW Shockwave's history, or , if you'd like to read IDW for yourself here is the reading order and all comics can be found online! Or you can browse his wiki page here!

This is Megaempress!

She was built from parts of Megatron's construction and leads an all female team with her 4 bodyguards in Unite Warriors! She has the special ability to seduce any male transformer (yes you are reading that right) and considers Megatron to be her husband (even though she has to use her powers on him to sway him, not a very healthy relationship there). I'm unsure where to find any translated scans of Unite Warriors at them moment but you read about Megaempress here, here, and here!

Meet DJ! He's a part of team of brothers called the Jointrons!

He turns into a cicada, and sometimes upon flight, he will "leak oil" during take off. He has used it as an attack to get Megastorm's attention before. While DJ is probably the most tolerable of the Jointrons he still has his problems, because, since this show was made in the 90s and like many old cartoons and animes, there's some insensitive racial stereotypes. He and his brothers can unfortunately be considered offensive Mexican stereotypes as they are often seen partying with mariachi music in the background and speaking in broken spanish randomly with heavy stereotypical accents. Thankfully they do not play as huge a part in the show as other characters and only show up in a few episodes so you aren't constantly bombarded with the racial insensitivities. Despite being blindsided with the sudden uncomfortableness of the Jointrons I still recommend Beast Wars II (you're free to skip Jointron eps without missing too much story if you want), you can watch it here on YouTube.

In Transformers Victory, a Destron named Leozack leads a team called the Breastforce, which is made up of Drillhorn, Killbison, Hellbat, Jaruga, and Guyhawk (who takes the place of Deathcobra).

The team can combine into Liokaiser and they're called the Breastforce because their breast plates pop off and turn into animals, which can also turn into their weapons. Each member has their own special animal, Leozack has a lion named Lionbreast, Guyhawk has a hawk named Hawkbreast, Drillhorn has a rhino named Hornbreast, Killbison has a bison named Bisonbreast, Jaruga has a jaguar named Jaguarbreast, and Hellbat has a bat named Kōmoribreast. Deathsaurus also has breast animals, an eagle named Eaglebreast and a tiger named Tigerbreast. If you'd like watch Victory you can find it here on YouTube!

Screw it here's another

Ok I'm gonna admit I kind fucked this one up bc I forgot descendant meant like.... direct offspring so mark that off the list actually.

I forgot it wasn't a catch all like ancestor.

So yes there is rat that is related to Arcee.

[oneheadedcerberus]

[tea-mew96]

While the topic is fresh in my mind, I want to discuss two characterizations in War for Cybertron: Kingdom that I didn't like. I'll be splitting it up into two parts since both explanations will be long.

So, Part 1: allow me to explain why I didn't like Dinobot in Kingdom.

The only characterization he ever really gets is the more honorable member of the Predacons who finally gets the courage to go against his fellow Predacons after talking with a captured Airazor. Not to say that honor isn't a trait of the original cartoon Dinobot, but there's one catch to the original Dinobot: he's an asshole and a gremlin.

Part of what made him such an engaging and fascinating character was that even after joining the Maximals, he wasn't always happy with the choice. There were many times where he missed the Predacon way of doing things, and most of his arc is A.) understanding just what side he should really be on and B.) him struggling to learn how to be a part of the Maximal team in his own unique way. Dinobot was fickle, he was a jerk to his fellow Maximals and considered to or did betray them more than once (that asshole nature is a main reason why he doesn't get along with fellow asshole Rattrap most of the time), and he looks kinda scary and intimidating. This is the guy with fucked up claw hands, rows of sharp teeth, and a mouth that can unhinge like a snake and eat his clone . It's because of this depth, this nuance to his character that made many love him, and it helped aid in making Code of Hero such a devastating episode. Right when Dinobot finally seemed to learn his place in the Beast Wars, after 35 episodes of us in the audience watching and getting to know him, he dies.

I can't say it's the case for everyone, but Dinobot's death in Kingdom had no impact on me whatsoever. It felt like the writers trying to claim an emotional scene by birthright rather than by good effort of buildup within the writing. Or alternatively, it was them thinking "Well Dinobot died in the original show so he has to die here too cuz tradition" but he didn't necessarily have to. Especially when they decided to make him stick around anyway by having him become a ghost in a similar fashion as G1 Starscream. For some reason that I didn't get and couldn't get behind.

I do understand that they likely changed Dinobot's character to better fit the plot that they were writing, but it comes at the cost of making Kingdom Dinobot feel like a cardboard cutout of the character I've come to know. And for a show that was meant to advertise a toyline aimed at Beast Wars fans, that seems like a bad move. Oh, and the voice direction for Dinobot sure didn't help matters.

TL;DR #NotMyRaptor

[notcuddles]

I am sending u this ask because dinobot from beast wars is an inherently ridiculous character (he is the one u reblogged from me with the 'All in vain' line):

1: velociraptor transformer

2: joins the maximals (autobots) because they wouldn't let him be the boss of the bad guys. has told megatron to go fuck himself, multiple times.

3: likes reading shakespeare and quotes him more than once. total theater nerd

4: ate his own clone and skinned him (and hangs the skin in his room and everyone just has to live with that)

5: dies after literally beating the shit out of megatron with a fucking rock hammer in front of ancient proto-humans (it is a LONG story) and is kind of a prometheus figure

6: bff with rattrap and they are both voiced by the same guy it is hilarious

7: they literally packaged the episode he dies in with his toy like what the fuck, hasbro

8: its a good show and he has good bants

God I wish I remembered more of that show because I definitely watched SOME of it (Rattrap was my fav, obvs) but I have no memory of this place. Some of this sounds familiar but I could be fabricating memories armed only with the knowledge that SOME kind of knowledge should exist in my head about this show...

[hardkookiecookie]

WELL FOLKS IT'S OVER !!! AND GUESS WHAT ?

Y'ALL WON !!

y'all sniffed me out I won't lie (anymore) I should have come up with a better lie, or some of you shouldn't have spoiled it in the tags <3 whatever we're both at fault lol

now to elaborate on each thing in the poll that was true and the lie that was kinda true!! :]

"Starscream shows up at one point then fucks off forever" TRUE

Starscream shows up in the episode "Possession" as a spark and possess Waspinator for the whole episode. that the end of the episode there's a large explosion that gets Starscreams spark/ghost out of Waspy and as Starscream is floating through space and time he swears vengeance on all the maximals and predacons only to never ever show up in the show again . lol .

"One episode the threat is dealt with an ASS BLAST so hard it was like a nuke" TRUE

I'm not elaborating too much on this lol basically in the episode "the low road" Rhinox gets infected with this virus that makes him expel energon/energy out of his mouth (in the beginning) and then he eats some beans and then at the end of the episode he sharts himself SO HARD it wins the day . so ya know </3

"one character runs into something so hard he flattens (like loony toons)" TRUE

in the episode "dark voyage" while all the maximals (minus primal) are in the woods trying to get home after being blinded by an energon explosion, Dinobot gets freaked out and runs DIRECTLY into a tree so so fast it flattens him like a cartoon and he then like . peels off the tree slowly it was funny

"one character offers to take another to the cybertron version of a hooters" TRUE

in one episode Silverbolt is talking about how he's never been to Cybertron and wonders what it's like, Rattrap tells him he's gonna take him to this place where he can get some great alcohol but ALSO all the serving bots walk around without their tops on (also to the person who said it was a topless bar not a hooters I hear you but I ran out of characters in the box I had to put hooters </3)

"an episodes script was (jokingly) rewritten to be VERY nsfw (it was fixed after)" TRUE

also not gonna elaborate on this one too much but basically the episode "Transmutate" had it's script rewritten (as prank or a joke) to be NSFW. you can find it on the wiki page for said episode

"Laserbeak shows up for 3 episodes doesn't do anything then promptly dies" LIE

it wasn't Laserbeak it was Ravage lol

"one character roller skates around his base . menacingly ." TRUE

in his transmetal form, Megatron can flip his feet in half and bring out some wheels with which he rollerblades around on. again menacingly.

"One character is shredded like paper and it doesn't kill him" TRUE

Waspinator is shredded like paper by Dinobot II (in Feral Scream) and all he needed to feel better was a bunch of Band-Aids and a sling on one of his bug arms

"one character eats another and the response he got was disgust and one 👍" TRUE

in the episode "double dinobot" the clone of Dinobot is over powered and eaten by the real Dinobot (off-screen) and at the very end of the episode he picks a piece of the clones skin out of his teeth and burps and in reaction to this news everyone is disgusted (to quote Primal: "you're disgusting") Cheetor gives him a thumbs up.

"two characters never speak or interact in the show . ever ." TRUE

okay so for this one I should have put "two MAIN characters" cuz like saw some confusion about this lol . BASICALLY, Dinobot and Airazor, never ever ONCE talk to one another, or even interact in anyway. the CLOSEST they got to such a things was standing next to each other one (1) time at the end of the episode "before the storm" . that's it tho

well it was fun to see what Y'all thought !!! I actually got a few of you >:]

Until next time !!! (very soon lol)

when this poll is over I'll make a post explaining which ones happened and which ones I lied about !! have fun everyone !!

[geminiofpluto]

My own review on Transformers: Kingdom, but this time it's not me typing as I watch each episode.

This time, I do include many major spoilers because I absolutely have to share my thoughts and they're all out of order.

🚨Once again, MAJOR SPOILERS FOR TRANSFORMERS: KINGDOM🚨

I'll have you all know that I've cried at least three times because of this series. It first started with the mist in the Allspark's glitched forest. Sideswipe believed he saw Sunstreaker (this means he's dead and I'm extremely sad). The second time was Dinobot's death. I did indeed see it coming, but it didn't hurt any less. Once again, like in Code of Honor, our brave Predacon-turned-Maximal has died with his honor intact. The third time was Prime finding Elita's body in the last episode. He and I were both heartbroken to see what has become of her. And her telling him "Thank you" for doing what he had to do brought me to absolute tears.

The voice acting was absolutely wack, but it was bearable for some characters. Pred!Megatron sounds like a wannabe angsty teen, and I think the voice actors for Tigatron and Dinobot should've switched.

I still loved Rattrap giving us glimpses of his personality from Beast Wars(mention Beast Machines, it'll be ON SIGHT). Really wish the Autobots and Maximals had more interactions with eachother(But the Rhinox and Wheeljack friendship lives forever!)

Speaking of friendship, Airrazor and Dinobot would've been amazing friends in this continuity, and I am not afraid to admit I love the Starscream and Black Arachnia duo. (Let's not forget about those moments with Black Arachnia and Airrazor haha)

Ahhh so many thoughts I had, and yet I've already forgotten so many!

The Ark transforming into a big boy that's a Titan class? Best fucking idea ever! Props to you for that, Teletraan!

Black Arachnia being able to make cool weapons and items out of her webs is pretty cool too! Makes me doubt less about her charms.

And uh, real sad that we got only one big from Airrazor to Tigatron, but the chemistry is still there so it's a win!

And when Airrazor saves Black Arachnia from falling a tall height from the airborne Nemesis ship, Black Arachnia giving Airrazor a cheek kiss and saying "My hero!" just made me sad, knowing we could've had Silverbolt. But hey, it makes me laught to think Black Arachnia is friendly with anything that flies.

One last comment that I have in mind for this trilogy series: That ending sends the heart places. But I'm only hurting myself with the thought of "Oh hey, maybe this is hinting at a movie?"

Here's the actual last comment:

Dinobot, miss you already. R.I.P. that nice hip sway of your animated model....

This is all that my mind can think about as of now, but when I rewatch the series, I'll definitely be making more edits to this post.

[baebeyza]

Unpopular Opinion: Optimus Prime isn't a very good person and that he's too glorified. (expect TFA Optimus)

strongly agree | agree | neutral | disagree | strongly disagree

What can I say except that there are many, many Optimus'/Convoy's out there and making a general opinion on them just doesn't work.

But I couldn't think of any Optimus I experienced who wasn't deep down a good person - lets make a roll call shall we? (includes all shows except RB and RBA + Bayverse)

G1 Optimus Prime - Good person, good leader, good father figure. Is forgiving towards wrong-doers without being a pushover. Couldn't think of anything he does that is sketchy

Beast Wars Optimus Primal - He has a harsh personality, hits Rattrap on the back of his head when the Rat talks bullshit and can get feral against his own teammates when they are being assholes like Depth Charge - but all in all, he is still a good leader and a good person. He simply has a more down-to-earth personality and a no-bullshit attitude.

He only ever reacts angrily because his team do stupid and jerkass stuff, but he is never unreasonable.

When he gets angry, you know why and you get why.

Also, he gave Dinobot a chance as a Maximal two times, so he too has a forgiving nature. And his dynamic with Depth Charge shows that he isn't petty either. ("I don't like him much either, but he's still a Maximal.")

He also had a nice moment with Blackarachnia in which he assures her they won't do anything about her coding against her will and that she is safe with them.

Beast Wars II Lio Convoy - The only thing you could call him out for is for refusing the father role when he found out he has a son. It took him half the show to actually call Lio Junior his son, but it made for a nice story! Also, he was willing to make peace with Galvatron in the show, showing his forgiving nature.

Beast Wars Neo Big Convoy - The shy and awkward one! He's a treat who learns to become a good teacher and leader with the help of his students, and he had this moment in which he tried to save Magmatron's life from Unicron. He is a hero with a strong sense of justice who needed to learn about proper teamwork and friendship and it's a really simple and sweet story.

Beast Machines Optimus Primal - This dude is such a trainwreck and I cannot in good conscious say he was always on the right side of things, I admit that.

The way the show treated the Vehicons was a little sketchy, because the Maximals technically became hypocrits, especially when it was about Silverbolt.

Forcing the "techno-organic is the real way to be" unto the non-organic characters feels a little weird, because the show never properly showed us why being without an organic side is supposed to be so bad. (And this matters because the good vs evil conflict isn't properly connected to the techno vs organic plot).

So this Oppy you can make the point that he isn't all that good as he pretends to be in his preachy cult leader role.

RiD01 Optimus Prime/Fire Convoy - Listen, this is the most naive and cute Optimus out there. This dude was willing to let Decepticons into their base just because they were like "We are good now :)" without even checking first.

His dynamic with his jerkass twin Magnus supports that - he doesn't want to fight his brother! The dude fucking pushes him off a cliff and he still tries to reason with him and doesn't fight back at all!

Don't you ever dare call this Prime a bad person, he's precious! xD

Armada Optimus Prime/Convoy - This is the dude who goes fucking feral at the end and shows just how much hatred and anger a Prime can store - but really just towards the end! The rest of the show he's your typical leader who doesn't do anything bad.

And when he made mistakes, he corrected them.

The fact that he always had this hatred and rage that he pushed aside all the time is the most interesting thing about this Prime, but even that doesn't make him a secretely bad person, because he still doesn't do anything bad. He's just an angry boi.

Energon Optimus Prime/Grand Convoy - This is technically the same Prime as Armada, and for once that shows - that anger Prime showed at the end of Armada is still present here and shows up a few times, especially when it's about Unicron.

But just like in Armada, he doesn't do anything bad.

He even tries to save Shockblast, the jerkiest jerk of the entire show, from Unicron's influence! And did just that with Galvatron at the end as well with the full intend to sacrifise himself to save everyone, including the Cons.

Cybertron Optimus Prime/Galaxy Convoy - My favourite Prime of them all - this Prime is just a damn Papa Bear! He will be considerate and loving towards his men, but if you bully his kids, you'll catch his hands bro.

He's bit a stoic dude, but shows compassion and kindness when he needs to.

He doesn't do anything sketchy either, and lets the few remaining Cons be part of the Transformers society in the end, despite their misdeeds before.

TFA Optimus Prime - The one you say is the only good Prime? Guess so, he's a good person as well! He makes mistakes (like insulting his team) but learns and grows from them.

But mate - he isn't a better person than any of the other Prime's I just listed. The only difference between TFA Prime and the other Primes so far is that TFA Prime is a narrative underdog who you are supposed to feel pity for.

All the other Prime's are leaders in a leader role, so just from a narrative standpoint, you don't feel the same sympathy for them as you do for TFA Prime.

But being an underdog doesn't translate to being a better person. The Joker in the Joker movie is also an underdog, but no one says he's a good person and that everything he does in this movie is justified.

TFA Prime just goes through more harsh shit that isn't Megatron and that's it. He isn't being a better hero or person for that.

TFP Optimus Prime - Yeah, I saw the opinion that him being too forgiving towards Megatron in the past is a flaw and that he cares more about this one silver shark more than about the safety of the universe - to which I say: WHEN???

This is a thing Ratchet accuses him off! But I couldn't remember a single scene in this show in which Optimus does, in fact, let Megatron go when he had the chance to kill him!

They always fought to the death when they did and Megatron surviving wasn't because Optimus was too nice. He's not Son Goku peeps.

And I have my issues with TFP Prime and how his characters is written, but being a secretely bad person aint it. He isn't a bad person.

If this is also about Starscream - he has every right to not trust Starscream. No one should trust Starscream! Starscream doesn't exist to be trusted by anyone.

You cannot call Prime a bad person because he elects to not trust the notorious backstabber, who, as Prime himself as pointed out, only does things for his own gain.

Also, he did try to make peace with Starscream after Megatron's "Death", and Starscream refused.

Is it about him destroying the Omega Lock? Nothing wrong with that! He chose to save Earth and all its Humanity over restoring a dead planet! Dead planet stays dead, alive planet stays alive. No one died by his decision to destroy the Omega Lock - but a whole ass planet would have died if he hadn't.

Like bro - I am not a big sucker for TFP Prime, but all these points I see floating around to prove that he is actually a bad person are kinda weird and biased.

Why should he have given Starscream a chance? To get backstabbed and used??? Which we know would have happened because this is fucking Starscream we are talking about??? A dude who doesn't care about Earth in the slightest and was happy about it being destroyed? Who only cares about power and winning this war, which is why he goes back to Megatron???

Should have sacrifised Earth? Would that have made him a true hero???

RiD15 Optimus Prime - This TFP Prime, just sterner, weaker and ready to start beef. But ultimately still a good guy.

Bayverse Optimus Prime - Here you got a Prime who kills his enemies! For anyone saying that TFP Prime is bad for not killing Megatron when he could, do you at least like Bayverse Prime for doing just that? Three times???

Even though he kills all his enemies, I never saw that as him being evil. He just doesn't give second chances. And it was refreshing to see a hero who actually does get rid of his enemies before they can do more shit.

He aint the nicest bot in town, but in the end he still did the heroic thing.

Movie 4 even gave him an arc about losing his faith in humanity and not wanting to help them anymore, but in the end he still does because his Barn Husband Cade convinces him to.

Good man I say, good man!

Prime Wars Optimus Prime - He tried to stop Windblade from making a mistake that would end in war with an emphasis on Windblade herself - saying that war is horrible and he doesn't want her to go through the same thing.

He then decides to help her anyway when he learns what the stakes are, is giving Megatron a second chance, keeps being on friendly footing with the dude and dies in an attempt to destroy the bad guy.

All in all, a good boy!

Cyberverse Optimus Prime - He forbids his soldiers from taking Energon from a foreign planet because the local fauna need it to survive - he constantly tries to do peace talks and doesn't give up on them - He dances in front of his crew to cheer them up - he shows remorse about what happened to Wild Wheel and tries to make things right again - he holds the dead Megatron in his arms and calls him his old friend-

Nothing bad about this home boy!

War for Cybertron Optimus Prime - he fucks up the whole damn time, but he has good intentions! He's a flawed individual who realises what his mistakes are!

Making mistakes, even as grand as his, doesn't make him a bad person!

So, no - I don't agree that Optimus is bad person and I also don't agree that TFA Prime is a better person than any other Prime.

Almost all these Prime's do good things, protect life, try to choose peace over conflict at least once and have a forgiving nature (even Bayverse Optimus, as he forgives humanity) - that all good guy qualities for me!

What more do you want from him to be a good person? Be nice to Starscream off all people???

Also, what do you even consider to be "too glorified"??? The newest media like WFC doesn't even depict him as a good leader because he fucks up so bad.