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Ah and I hope this isn't spam (I'm not too sure on how asks on tumblr usually go) but any thoughts on the Simeon seraph reveal?

Personally I wasn't a big fan of it bc it felt kind of cheap? And inconsistent with how the Celestial Realm was written, and I don't really think it makes sense. My personal takes are that the Celestial Realm comes off as a more strict/authoritarian place that values adherence to rules and compliance more than caring for the angels themselves. Simeon stood out among the angels (at least to me) because he's decently high ranking but is/was always willing to bend the rules. He doesn't (usually) bend the rules for himself, but more to help the people he cares about. His 2 major demotions always felt pretty significant to his character. I don't think it was ever specified why he was demoted to an archangel, but with Raphael taking his place, I always assumed it either had something to do with him bending the rules, or with him maybe taking a more neutral position in the War. For becoming human, he did it because he cared to save MC's life more than Celestial Realm rules. To me both instances feel like moments where he chose to do what he felt was right regardless of whatever punishment he got, and the Celestial Realm doesn't seem like a place that goes light on punishments. To just have him be reinstated with seemingly no issue,,, kinda feels like it's cancelling out whatever development or change in perspective he could've gotten. A return to the status quo for the sake of wrapping up the story.

But then again I haven't had the time to finish either game so most of my info is through spoilers </3 So my interpretation could be totally wrong lol (sorry for the ramble btw ^^;)

Not at all spam and we are so sorry we're so late to answering this! It gets us worked up when we think about it haha.......

But yes to all you've said!! Simeon's casual seraph reveal makes no damn sense given everything we know about the Celestial Realm and Simeon's previous demotions and why they happened.

His demotion to archangel was heavily implied to happen because Simeon seemed to cover for the brothers/stayed neutral in the Great Celestial War. He was essentially punished for not being fully loyal to God. He wasn't quite 'replaced' as far as we know -- Raphael was already a seraph before the war, though he likely did take on some of Simeon's seraph responsibilities after he was demoted. And then yes, was punished again for "stealing" Lucifer's Ring of Light from Michael to help stabilize MC's power. As you said, Simeon is always willing to bend the rules in order to protect those he cares about -- and the Celestial Realm is quick to punish anyone who steps out of line.

We've long yelled that the Celestial Realm sucks in that it is a very authoritarian place. The Celestial Realm has consistently shown that it is not enough to be "good" but that the angels need to be obedient -- and not only must they obey in their actions, but it is mandated that they can never even question Father, aka God.

This point is pushed up to the very end, demonstrated by the subsequent agony that Raphael experienced in the final NB season. He too started feeling torn between what he felt was just, and the absolutism of the Celestial Realm's judgment. Even to him, who had always been very loyal to the Celestial Realm and much more of a stickler for the rules, as we've seen contrasted with the brothers, it didn't seem right that Simeon could potentially fall forever to demonhood for literally saving the entire universe, and that the Celestial Realm was not stepping in to end his punishment to save him from that fate, when Father could have very easily made that decision. Starting to realize that contradiction caused him so much distress that it sent him into a whole magical spiral, because he couldn't bear the anxiety and denial of realizing that he was beginning to doubt God!

Now, the end of the final season seems to suggest that the combined efforts of the other angels, in trying to appeal to Michael and Father to end the punishment of becoming human, plus Simeon's own decision not to give up on being an angel (which we have some separate thoughts on...) left room for an implication that he would return to being an angel. However, this also comes after a lot of buildup that seemed to imply he actually felt pretty okay accepting that he might become a demon, as one of his greatest regrets is actually not being able to join the brothers in rebellion during the war! So to simply hand-wave it in a casual birthday video mention that he's not only an angel again, but has been restored all the way to seraph status, is not only cheap but kind of insane????

Ultimately, though, a lot of the abrupt wrap-up on Simeon seems to have come about from the equally abrupt end of content for the games. As far as we can tell, the OM team themselves were caught by surprise by this decision, considering they had just rolled out a whole new "date" feature with only the first two brothers to start! RIP literally all the other characters' fans...?? And there was a whole Instagram moment of the social media team implying they wished for the games to come back too.....so, haha. Fuck us players, we guess.

So, we're limited to only speculation, of course, but at a guess, it seems like they wanted to set up things in a way that neatly tied a bow on Simeon's whole huge arc, putting him back at angel status for any future projects so that there wouldn't be big status changes from game to game. And slipping in a mention of him being a seraph again in the middle of a birthday YouTube video is absolutely the dumbest, cheapest way for them to do that, deeply undercutting so much of the world and story they'd set up, but presumably it's just a way for them to confirm the outcome from after the ending, without actually diving into it with the care and depth that it deserves.

But hey -- to be honest, who knows how much control the devs even had about it at that point?

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Intro Post (kinda)

Hello!!!

I'm Rat (they/it), I'm pretty new to Tumblr but I've been an obey me fan for almost 4 years now (more info on socials at the bottom) ☆

Big Simeon fan ^^ I love talking about him and if you're also a Simeon fan PLSPLS message me I love yapping. My top 3 are Simeon, Thirteen, and Raphael, and although I'm a fan of the game in general and may draw the other characters, I mostly only talk/draw my top 3. Talk to me if you're an OM fan in general though tbh :].

My MC shares my name+pronouns, but I'd consider them to be an OC more than a self insert, I have a different Sona. (Here's some OLD* art of them)

My non obey me art will probably go to @ratbastarf but I'll likely be more active here lol :P + my main social is IG but I also have TWT and both are let_me_perish (although there's another underscore after my TWT @)

Personal art tag is #rat's (f)art btw lol

[inhuman-obey-me]

Hello !! I'm v new to the tumblr obey me community but I've really been enjoying reading your (I think there's two mods? so both of you) headcanons :)

I haven't been able to play obey me much myself recently, but I'm stuck on ~lesson 42ish for SWD and ~lesson 28ish for NB. I'm mostly aware of (and don't care for avoiding) spoilers, so my question is

When MC returns to the SWD timeline in NB, is there any indication of passage of time at all? I'm assuming MC has spent at least a few months in NB, so has the same amount of time passed in SWD or does it kinda just pick up immediately where SWD got left off? Is there any acknowledgement of MC going to the past?

Thank u :]

Hello! Thank you so much for your kind words and we're glad you've enjoyed our writing/headcanons -- and while late to answer, welcome!! ❤️

To answer your question, no, time did not actually pass in the "present" during the events of the first two seasons of NB. The time travel is treated in that very time travel way where, though months have passed in the past, MC returns to basically the same moment that they disappeared. The brothers feel some kind of emotional gap that definitely affects them once MC returns, but they don't really understand why they feel that way because they have no idea it happened.

Now, that's not quite to say that the time travel is never brought up again. Solomon, having followed us to the past, is aware that MC was gone, and he actually warns us that we shouldn't bring it up, in order to avoid screwy time paradox things. And NB season 3 does also bring up some big implications about MC's new double-pact status.

All of that said, though, the whole Nightbringer time travel plotline is...not really resolved. In the rush to tie up loose ends at the end of content last year, they focused a lot on resolving Simeon's whole angel-to-human-maybe-demon-nope-angel-again ordeal, which they hadn't finished dealing with at the end of OG and were still working through in NB at the time of the announcement. Because of that, we ended up getting no answers on exactly what Nightbringer sent us to the past for, what his actual identity is, the deeper repercussions of the time travel, or...anything else with all of that? We'll see if, in whatever upcoming new "projects" they've promised but not yet announced for OM universe, they get deeper into it, but for now, that's all we've got. We can only hope they bring it back for some kind of resolution in the future.

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