#random wenclair thoughts i had last night

[breawycker]

Wednesday: You know. I loathe the feeling of solving a mystery because while I have used my astounding intellect and detective skills to solve a case once and for all, I'm always never sure what do with myself after.

Enid: You wanna go make out?

Wednesday: That... Is acceptable.

[hislittleraincloud]

Thank the gods someone else said it, so I didn't have to. Been thinking about the whole I Can Fix Him/Her thing a lot since it's rife in Wyler 🤢 Maybe even worse with the Wenclairs (love the babies but it's really bad, and then the forced romance shit coming from Wednesday's mouth every time someone tries to write Wenclair is so out of character/OOC that's it's worse than anything I saw in Potter back in the day). But we're talking Wyler/Tyler rn.

I've also been thinking of Xavier and how much he suffered through this hot mess of a storyline. How fucking cruel was it to assign Xavier to do his Outreach Day community service with the motherfucker who assaulted him the previous year? No one seems to have thought about that one enough (except for the writers, who knew what they were doing with that, for once).

I read somewhere that Doohan has said that Tyler didn't know who Wednesday was when she came into the Weathervane to get her quad, but that's bullshit. Tyler was already in deep with Laurel, and Laurel's plans were clear by that point. And when Laurel stated at the end that W was never getting to the train because Tyler was sent to intercept her, that actually also applied to the very beginning...there was no way Laurel would have allowed Tyler to take her to the train station the night of the Harvest Festival either. Him giving her her father's file was a means to manipulate her to stay, not a kindness that she thought that it was. (It was also a clue to shove in her face about Gates' hidden motivations -- since Gomez was accused of murdering her brother. Foreshadowing at its finest.)

Don't even get me started on the inexplicable bullshit that was Woe What a Night. (Wednesday dancing her famous dance with the dude she was just told was a bigot and assaulted an outcast...it's inexplicably stupid and ruins the dance sequence for me. It feels like it was edited poorly, since Wednesday stood there staring at him for the last dance like she had just found out about the assault...it's just a jumbling of what should have happened.) Tyler and his stupid fucking entitlement manipulation. "Oh, you asked the kid I beat the fuck out of last year? But I thought we liked each other!" 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮

Tyler may have been groomed a little (we're led to believe that he's a little older than W, so he's at least 17 or 18) by Laurel, but he was a POS before Laurel. Hell, for all we know, Tyler's Hyde was brought out by the boot camp he was sent to by Donovan and merely brought under control by Laurel. Wednesday's "explanation" in the conservatory was wrong, IMHO, especially since there was no "Galpin Family Secret" when Ansel was alive (Ansel Gates died and orphaned Laurel when she was just a kid...long, long before Donovan ended up with Francie; Tyler was born around 2004, Ansel died close to ~1991 if Laurel was sent overseas as a kid); she had been wrong several times in her conclusions. Prima Mutatio (my own term for the first turning of a Hyde, so I'm just going to use it) is hinted at being something that is not exactly forcefully or purposefully unlocked directly by one person, but by a traumatic event, like childbirth (Francie and her Hyde first coming out). Fester didn't even know what brought out Olga's Hyde when he knew her; that she massacred people during a live performance hints that pressure/nerves/something completely random can bring out a Hyde's Hyde, without them being commanded to kill.

It's pretty clear in the original pilot script and in the nuance of Sheriff Galpin's behavior that he hadn't a clue she was a Hyde until Tyler was born. Tyler's bigotry was picked up somewhere, and (despite the Wenovan moments I've picked out for us in fandom*) Donovan is a (soft) bigot as well, spurred on by the Garrett Gates "murder" and whatever else he experienced in his youth with outcasts. He outwardly groans when he sees the Nevermore outcasts file into the square on Outreach Day...so he is still harboring anti in him. Still, he's bound by his duty as a cop to protect them, and despite her being the daughter of the dude he thought was a murderer, he softened after Episode 5 about Wyler...unknowing(?) that his son was manipulating her all that time. (And already suspecting that he was the Hyde...he knew once the photos came back. Which goes to question: If he knew that Tyler was a Hyde, how could he give them his blessing with Gomez? Seems a bit dangerous and careless to the little thorn in his side, but then again, he also warned Tyler to stay the fuck away from her in Episode 6...not for his sake, but for hers.)

Thank the gods Ortega said that Tyler is off the table for Wednesday as a love interest. I hope she sticks to that, because it would be infinitely worse for the show if she sank into that I Can Fix Him role that fandoms latch onto.

TLDR;

Fuck that monster.

*But Torrrrrrr if you think he's a bigot too, then why Wenov -- SHUSH. Donovan loved an outcast so much that it broke him, and it broke him to fear that Tyler would turn out as violent and fucked up as Francie was. I really hope the new season, if they include Tyler which I think they will, will explore that further. McShane and Ortega had the most chemistry/underlying in their scenes (watch how Ortega speaks with him versus the way she speaks with Weems & other adult authority figures and with her peer characters, or family members...the only other one she speaks to so casually, and the only other one she let her smile out for, is Uncle Fester), they can pull off a backstory on what happened with Francie in a way that might garner Tyler and Donovan some sympathy despite their bigotry, especially if they want to go that "I can fix him" route with Tyler.

The thing about Tyler is the consequence of a general attitude that took over narrative in the last years: the belief that nobody is inherently evil, that there are good reasons why a character does despicable things, and they can be "fixed" making them "good". EG the behavior is the result of something sad that happened to the character, or the character is misguided/lied to/brainwashed, or was traumatized. So if the character is confronted with "the power of love"(TM) and heal their trauma, they will abandon for sure their evil ways.

Also, a lot of people believe that suffering purifies (a very Christian concept, I'm saying it as I was raised Catholic), and that somebody who suffered a lot can't inflict pain to other people; and that if they do horrible things noonetheless then they deserve our compassion because, well, it's not entirely their fault if they are a piece of shit; and sooner or later they will understand their predicament and stop inflicting pain to the others.

It's like the audience (and sometimes also writers and narrators) completely forgot that sometimes people are just rotten and are willing to step on the others for their personal advantage, ot just because it amuses them. Just like in Tyler's case.

I personally think that people can change, but I think you’re correct to an extent. Other than giving them the chance to change, sometimes people are just bad. And yes, sometimes it can be explained with nurture vs nature, but sometimes it can’t be. Two kids can come from the same type of household and come out completely different, yknow? And we have it confirmed that Tyler was a bully. The kids that bully Eugene said he went “soft”. He assaulted Xavier bad enough to get court ordered therapy. He was already a jerk to outcasts before Thornhill came along. She made him worse, that’s for sure, but he was already a bully.

I’m also a believer that people don’t just get a pass because something bad happened to them, except in very nuanced cases. And Tyler very clearly enjoyed what he was doing. He said as much in the police station. He should be held accountable. And until we get more information on Hydes and how they actually work, that’ll be my take.

I mean, in my eyes it was clear that he didn’t care about Wednesday past the attraction that he may have felt when they first met. But he very clearly had fun taking advantage of her. I mean, the dude kissed her, probably knowing that she’d die in a few days. That’s just despicable to me.

[l0ves1ckf0ol]

CHASE. . . WENCLAIR

note: this is a bit solitaire esque (by alice oseman) and this doesn't also follow the actual storyline in the show so

tags: @gwynrr

a werewolf and a psychic isnt usually your great pick of a power couple in nevermore. wednesday is often described as closed off, insensitive and apathetic. enid on the other hand, cared way too much and overall had a bubbly personality. people were confused as to how they'd work out. considering how they sneakily hold hands with each other or the occasional whispers from wednesday to enid, asking her if she's okay, it was like they were meant for each other.

but of course, all couples fight. they all have issues. most impoetantly, wednesday who's too smart for her own good, too nosy and overall when she gets her head into something, it's hard getting her out.

a new crisis had arrived in nevermore and that was there was an unknown someone sabatoging school events and clubs this semester, trashing venues, destroying instruments, and the occassional creepy website updating random stuff on there that seemed to have been related to wednesday. last week a post about her cello was made, she went to their dorm to check it- it was destroyed. she wanted to get to the bottom of it.

today was supposed to be wednesday and enid's 4 month anniversary, enid had a whole date planned meanwhile wednesday was still out and about, probably in the corridors or something to investigate. enid had assured her that everything will be fine, the adults should take care of it. but then again adults here in nevermore seem either unhinged and stubborn or actually insightful and open minded, one cause prominent more than the other.

enid had told wednesday beforehand that she'd go back to the dorm by 8 and they'd have a movie night (wednesday likes to be in less public settings), it was now 10:07pm.

wednesday was on her way back to the dorm, she had been completely immersed with the new trouble happening in the school, the person who broke her cello should pay. that was the only time she had answered her phone,

"wednesday?! where the hell are you, i thought we agreed-" wednesday interrupts her by opening the door to their dorm. enid ends the call and plqces her phone down on the bedside table, she now crosses her arms as soon as wednesday went inside and closed the door behind her. the raven haired girl froze next to the door, contemplating whether or not she should apologize because of her girlfriend's angry glare. "we agreed that we would have a movie night. i asked you to come at 8, and you agreed what is it now wednesday. what time did you actually get home?" she almost yells. for the first time, wednesday was concerned. "10 pm. I'm sorry-"

"shush. you'll do more than that i'm afraid."

wednesday frowns, confused. "enid i'm apologizing. you're not hearing me out." she rolls her eyes, "you have always told me that i care too much, about other people- about you." enid continues to argue, raising her voice a bit. "ever since that nevermore website crisis, you never even had the time to update the person you love where you are or how close are you to finding out who's behind this, even if i don't even encourage you to run off in the middle of the night, when you're in my arms and when i fell asleep, i still would appreciate you to text me once in a freaking while, wednesday!"

"its like you don't care-"

"i care! enid, i care about you. this is the closest memory in my life that would even describe how capable i am of caring about someone." enid almost caught the desperation in her tone. "but the person behind the website or responsible for destroying your cello's more important than me, right?" she scoffed. wednesday's frown went even deeper more, she approaches enid and holds her hand "no! enid, it's never- you're my top priority, i swear."

"i've been chasing you around for the last two weeks, trying to reassure that fact too. yoko said i shouldn't even have to, yoko is now the one that reminds me that i care too much about you. the bitter and strange wednesday addams. " she mutters, pulling away from wednesday.

"then again, what's to care for?"

"enid... listen-" before wednesday could even explain herself further, enid had already left the room. probably off to stupid yoko, wednesday thinks. it's always yoko this yoko that, she was infuriated that still up to now enid takes her advice more than she does to her.

it seems like for the first time in their relationship, wednesday was the one to chase her now, she figured she'd have to get down on her knees or something like that to make her forgive her. she wanted to do something truly at that moment, she wanted to chase her before she could enter yoko's room. but here she was sitting down next to enid's collection of stuffed animals, hugging her knees and forcing her eyes not to even cry. but she couldn't help it.