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Yang Zi and Deng Lun
So I’ve been having a hard time trying to move on from Ashes of Love, and what I’ve been curious about is the lack of IRL interactions between Yang Zi and Deng Lun despite them being long-time collaborators, if not friends. They both participated in a lot of variety shows, just never together.
They’ve only appeared together publicly on 5 occasions (or at least 5 that I’ve seen): on Happy Camp in 2013 to promote Flowers in Fog, at 2 award shows, at an event to promote Ode to Joy 2 (though their interactions were minimal to none), and at a 2018 Oppo event.
I’ve been wondering why they didn’t do any promo events for AOL, or why they never sang a duet together on stage.
I then did some digging (using my limited literacy in Chinese) and came across the infamous instagram incident in September 2018 just after AOL finished airing, which caused fan wars that have persisted til this day. People are questioning how genuine their “friendship” really is, and their fans apparently hate each other, which makes it hard for them to even be in the same room together without being mercilessly harassed online.
The incident didn’t seem to leave any hard feelings between them though, since they seemed to be friendly and cordial enough at the Weibo awards in early 2019 (with Deng Lun even coming up to Yang Zi’s seat to playfully flip her dress to get her attention and then sit next to her), and they spoke fondly of each other in separate interviews later that year too, but their fans can’t seem to let the incident go. And being two of the biggest stars in China, the longevity of their fame depends on them being able to read the room, which in this case is their respective fanbases.
This also makes me believe that we’re not going to see them in another drama together any time soon. I’d love to be proven wrong about this, but based on the circumstances, I don’t know if they’d think that another collaboration is a good career move for them.
1. The first reason is an obvious one. Their next collaboration is unlikely to match the success of AOL. AOL is kind of like a one-hit-wonder. You usually only have that kind of runaway success once (unless you’re Yang Mi or Zhao Liying). I don’t see them being in another fantasy drama, since people would be making too many comparisons. They would have to do something different that they haven’t done before (kind of like Tang Yan and Luo Jin who have collaborated 5 times, and each time their roles and relationships were completely different).
2. I don’t see Deng Lun repeating co-stars (besides the fact that he collaborated with YZ twice already). He’s already spending this year focusing on variety shows, which means that his next drama isn’t going to be out in a while (depending on when he even decides to take on a new project). So, his body of work is already quite limited, meaning that he probably wouldn’t want it dominated by a single co-star. He also pairs up with the biggest actresses trending at the time (e.g., Sun Yi, Dilireba, Zhao Liying, Ma Sichun, etc) so I think he’ll continue this pattern and pair up with whichever rising actress has the public favour 2 or so years from now. (Unpopular opinion: That is, if he is still in demand 2 years from now. “Fresh meat” actors usually don’t stay in the spotlight for very long. They shine hella bright, but also burnout hella fast. They’re not very sustainable tbh. Lin Gengxin was similarly in a ton of variety shows when he peaked, and now I barely hear anything about him. Their staying power is fleeting. Also, while variety shows might keep you relevant in the short term, they’re not as memorable as dramas).
3. I also don’t know if Yang Zi would repeat co-stars. It seems like she’s aiming to have at least one hit drama a year, so I would imagine that she would be more picky about her projects. But at the same time, I feel like she would be more open than DL to have another collaboration with him (though since we aren’t them, we can never know what they think). She usually takes on several dramas a year, so I would imagine that she wouldn’t mind having a repeat collaboration since she already has enough other projects to diversify her portfolio.
4. As much as Deng Lun says that he admires YZ and acknowledges her hand in his success, I also don’t know if he wants to depend on her to keep his career alive (I imagine that his fans probably want to crucify me for saying this, but good thing that no one reads rants on tumblr). In both of his collaborations with YZ, it transformed his career and gave him a huge boost in popularity. So he probably wants to avoid that association. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a good actor and has a ton of potential (way better than other “fresh meat” actors before him), but I feel like he’s currently being pigeon-holed as an “idol” actor. And with a lack of notable acting projects in the near future, it’s a little concerning). He needs to take on more challenging and meaningful roles, like slice of life dramas, or smart historical/political dramas. He needs to diversify.
5. Top Billing. Yang Zi got top billing in Ashes of Love because she was more popular at the time, was signed first, and was the one who recommended DL for the role in the first place. But now that they rival each other in popularity, I don’t know whom top billing would go to. After seeing how heated fans got when debating who should get top billing for Love Designer and next year’s The Golden Hairpin, I feel like studios and producers would be wary of casting 2 mega A-list actors.
That isn’t to say all hope of another collaboration is lost. They were recently in a pepsi commercial together (although it doesn’t look like they shot it together), but their faces appear next to each other on advertising posters, meaning that their partnering still has marketing value.
I love them both, and I’m just trying to pull myself out of this rabbit hole and distance myself from them by facing the music and the reality of their professional relationship in order to tear myself away from their characters in AOL.
I could go on another rant about how Deng Lun is nothing like Xufeng, and how Yang Zi’s interaction with Deng Lun seems to be mostly on a professional level, especially when you compare it with her unfiltered interactions with her childhood BFF Zhang Yishan and her shy interactions with her ex-BF Qin Jun Jie, but that’s another controversial rant that I won’t get into here.
Thoughts, corrections, and addition input are welcome, thanks.
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20 is a really weird age...(this was the post I wanted to post before the app refreshed for no reason but I forgot most of what I said so HERE WE GO!!!)
I feel like I’m only just now discovering there are IRL people that are younger than me and celebrities the same age/only a few years older... (probs a long post??)
Like before now, if someone was younger than me, they were a year younger or at least 5 years younger than me...so in high school, I could comfortably check out whoever I liked that was older than me bc whatever, it’s innocent, I’m a high schooler, nothing’s gonna happen so it’s cool...and anyone that wasn’t a year younger than me was too young to check out bc emotional maturity is so varied in high school...
but now I’m 20 and in uni (18 is the legal age in Australia), but occasionally I’ll still think I’m the same age as high schoolers, and see kids in uniforms (bc Australia generally has uniforms for primary and secondary/high school), and think oh hey attractive guy- WAIT. Because not only is emotional maturity so varied, SO TOO IS PHYSICAL MATURITY among high schoolers and so I can’t tell if these students are a year younger or 4 years younger than I am so I gotta pause, re-evaluate the situation, and look away bc I can’t be thinking that way with these kids. I can think they’re cute but that’s really where it should stop. So I mentally wish them all the best and set my heart elsewhere.
I was watching an interview of Milo Manheim (Zed from DCOM Zombies) and was thinking this guy is so attractive, then remembered he’s 17 and was somehow born in 2001 (bc what?? they exist??) and had to sit back and reconfigure my thinking. He is a precious bean that deserves to be protected. I’ll see you on the other side of 20 my young friend!
BUT CONVERSELY, I realised there are celebrities that are my age or a couple years older?? NOW, I’ve obviously had characters and actors and singers and celebrities that I’ve found attractive or really enjoyed, but I’ve never been the type to pair myself with them or self-insert myself into a story (totally cool if you do, but it’s not my thing) for a couple reasons:
the reason I fall in love with a character is generally bc I fell in love with the relationship they have with their significant other, and the reason I fall in love with an actor is yes because they might be attractive, but also I love how they were able to portray their character so well, and how they portrayed the ship I ship...and my love for the SHIP will always triumph over my individual attraction to a character or actor
the actor/singer/celebrity is generally way older than myself, or just out of an age range that I’m comfortable with
BUT!!! somehow turning 20 has me realising there are in fact celebrities that are my age or only slightly older??? For instance (most of these might be Kdrama actors:
Kwak Dong Yeon (21): he’s so gotdang attractive and I fell in love with his character in Love in the Moonlight/Moonlight Drawn By Clouds, and found out he’s 21 and just about died
Cha Eun Woo/Eun Woo (21): my eye-smiling baby boi from My ID is Gangnam Beauty is only a year older than me???
Tom Holland (22): ohohohohoho mah boi. So beautiful. SO cute. Much love.
Park Bo Gum (25): 25 seems like a stretch to me but how can I not include Park Bo Gum, the beautiful, beautiful man
Ma Li (23): one of my more gentle loves (as opposed to my deep love for the above) but I appreciate him (sidenote: he kinda looks like Alec from the Twilight series) a lot for his role in Accidentally In Love (Cdrama)
Zhao Yi Qin (21): mah boiiiiii Lin Yiyang from Accidentally in Love is sooo cute gotdang
Shawn Mendes is 20???: wut. in my mind he was like 27 or something...
Dylan Wang/Wang He Di/DiDi (19 turning 20 in Dec): BOI THIS BEAUTIFUL BOI IN A SHOW I HAVEN’T EVEN WATCHED BUT HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF ON TUMBLR (and also I’ve seen Boys Over Flowers so I know the Meteor Garden story anyhow) BUT DANG IF HE AIN’T BEAUTIFUL
DYLAN SPRAYBERRY IS 20?!??!!??!: I’m discovering this stuff as I write this post jeez...
Cody Christian (23): ugh so beautiful
ok I need to stop before I list every actor under the sun. my main deal is with Kwak Dong Yeon bc he started this reflection business and he soooo beautiful
BUT ANYWAY!!!
This has me conjuring up mildly irrational fantasies (idk a better way to phrase that) that I never really used to consider (I mean mildly irrational fantasies are the fangirls bread and butter but not generally my thing)...THE MOST PREDOMINANT BEING: oh hey they’re my age????? if I happened to stumble into them, we could totally be a thing....and then I remember I barely leave the house out of laziness and convenience so that bursts my bubble real quick...
and that’s where this rant is gonna end. kinda a weak place but I needed to let this out somewhere. this turned out into a gushy rant about beautiful actors. this probs made no sense but OH WELL HERE IT IS!!!
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