#purple kankri

[hsoppositezodiac]

Some talksprite edits of the alpha trolls ^-^

[propheticclown]

One of my favorite things about Purplebloods is how they're such character breakers. Every time you expect a Purpleblood to do something, they do the exact opposite.

My favorite example of this is Marvus Xoloto because during Hiveswap, he's this sadistic trickster that plays mind games with you as you progress through Act 2. And in Hiveswap Friendism, you're basically told the same things, that he's a crazy clown who murders and performs for his fans, but the second you're alone with him he goes, "Now let's talk about how clowns are really the most disprivileged and oppressed socioeconomic class."

He's really just purple Kankri and I adore him for it.

[rogue-of-light]

yes, yes! wisper would have wanted us to continue working as fast as possible, surely he would hate for us to waste time being sad about his very naturally caused passing! posthaste, everyone!

-KPA

rip </3

not even the totally accidental naturally caused death will give anybody time off, oh well!

[nekropsii]

Why do people call Porrim an MRA??? it's such a bad take I can't even begin to fathom the logic.

Uuuuugh. Okay, to my understanding, the logic is predicated on two concepts:

Kankri is Correct, there is no Misogyny on Beforus.

Since Beforus has a Matriarch, "complaining" about the Oppression of Women on Beforus is the exact equivalent... Men complaining about men being oppressed, despite us living in a Patriarchal society.

This is a terrible argument, because... Porrim literally explains in detail that that is not the case.

Yes, Beforus has a Matriarch... A Superficial Matriarch, where the woman in power is more of a Figurehead than anything. Law Enforcement and Politics are handled mostly by "Higher CIPs" - Ceruleans, Indigos, and Purples - which are predominantly born (hatched?) as men. ... If all of the Social Order and Politics are Enforced and Dictated by men... Then that... Is a Patriarchy.

So, we have it directly explained to us that Beforus is Superficially a Matriarchy, with a Governing Body largely composed by Highblood Men, who canonically benefit from the subjugation of women, because having women be of generally lower class than men means that... Men can cull women, potentially on the basis of being women. You know, that social system, enforced by the predominantly male-lead government that allows for what is essentially the ownership of people you deem incapable of caring for themselves as pets? The system that will take any excuse in the book? Sure, that may have been a social rule implemented by their version of HIC, Feferi fucking Peixes, but it's still being used as a weapon. Just because something was made by a woman, does not mean it cannot be used as a weapon against women in the name of misogyny. You think Alternian Culling doesn't work the same damn way?

There's a sharp cut of irony you have to feel at the fact that Porrim literally says that conversations of Misogyny on Beforus are often shot down using "The Matriarchy" as an excuse. If Misogyny wasn't a thing, why the fuck are Rufioh, Kankri, and Cronus literally, textually, purposefully Misogynists? Why the hell is Latula like that, then? I don't think this is a 1-to-1 allegory for the real world, man- Troll World Building has NEVER been a direct, clean allegory for the real world. I do not think she was ever intended to be read as an analogue to Men's Rights Activists, I think she was intended to be read as an Alien Feminist. If anything, this feels less like an MRA, and more like someone getting shut down for trying to have a conversation about how Misogyny Exists in, like, Thatcher-Era England or something. Well, there's a Female Prime Minister, isn't there? Misogyny is over, clearly.

Porrim is constantly posed as an Exposition Fairy on the same level as Aranea, just... With Politics and World Building rather than Character Analysis. Porrim is portrayed as cool, collected, and correct. Do you think Andrew Hussie - literal Andrew Hussie - would portray a fucking Men's Rights Activist with that level of grace and style? Because the answer is no! Every time a character is a Misogynist in Homestuck, they are comically terrible! Rufioh, Kankri, Cronus, fucking Caliborn! Hussie is a lot of things, and yeah, some of these things are bad, but none of these things include the label Misogynist. Hussie is well known for... Not doing that, actually, that's, like... A major appeal of the comic. The female characters in Homestuck are known for being really, really well written and really, really well handled!! If there was a Men's Rights Activist in Homestuck, we would know about it, because that character would be comedically terrible, constantly dunked on by everyone around him, totally bitchless, and posed as a relentless fucking menace who does not deserve to breathe the same air as any of the women in the story. You know, like Cronus! And Not Porrim!!

Also, can we all take a moment of silence to ponder how much of an L it is to have your entire point of discourse be based in the idea that straight up literal actual Kankri Vantas is correct? That is capital e Embarrassing.

[cringefail-clown]

Rip kankri u would've loved being an aita subreddit moderator

hed both be the moderator AND have a burner acc where he sends shit like "my descendant wont talk to me ever since ive given him some advice about his relationship with his human will-he-wont-he matesprit. i dont think it was a wrong thing to do, but he told me ive stepped out of the line. AITA?" and fights everyone who tells him YTA in the comments

others catch the wind of him being a moderator and start sending the most insane shit imaginable just to fuck with him. rose and him are on a warpath trying to one-up each other with their purple prose morality checking essays. theres a betting pool going on about who will make him mad enough to call them a slur (dave wins)

[animallover432]

It’s seems like many of the beta and alpha trolls are somewhat unusual even within each of their own blood castes, and the reason I think for this is probably due to ectobiology and possibly Karkat making mistakes while creating them. For the same reason I wonder if Rose and Dave having purple and red eyes, and Roxy and Dirk having pink and orange eyes could perhaps be a symptom of ectobiology, since the paradox clones and their offspring are technically not actual humans or trolls, due to not being descended from the humans on Earth/trolls from Alternia. It makes sense that unusual mutations from their planets regular species could occur. Case in point, Karkat and Kankri’s human like candy blood color that is entirely a process of ectobiology and doesn’t exist on Alternia/Beforus til the sufferer and Karkat land on it. Equius’s inconvenient super strength that labels him as a “freak” by the narrator, that only the strongest lusus would take care of, and could be considered a mutation. The summoner (Rufioh) has wings that no other troll has. Sollux has a mutant brain that foretells doom and torments him. The helmsman presumably has these issues too. Vriska and Mindfang have unusually good mind persuasion powers for being a highblood. Aranea particularly controlled thousands of ghosts somehow! Kanaya is one of the only trolls who enjoys fashion and can be resurrected after death into basically a light vampire. A good amount of the trolls have unique mutations that have never been seen before, are sometimes more inconvenient than helpful, and actively make these troll’s lives miserable. But ultimately it is these things that preemptively make it so they are able to win the game. Of course I wonder if many of these mutations were accidentally caused by Karkat.

[ender--slime]

THERE ARE ONLY TWO DAYS LEFT TO PREORDER THE PINK AND PURPLE CAPTCHALOGUE BAGS!

After this they’ll be GONE FOREVER gone for the FORESEEABLE FUTURE but they will COME BACK AT SOME POINT! What am I, Makeship? cmonnnnnnnn

After I close up preorders i have some BREAKDOWNS and ANNOUNCEMENTS to do, but until then, GET THOSE LAST FEW ORDERS IN!! :D

Drawing contributions:

Karkat: @zomb1gutz

Kankri: @inkyu

Terezi: @chirriechi

Dirk: @catboylabhell

The Mayor: @enviousennui

Mutie: @voxsymphonia

John…’s face: @juneegbertfanpage

Jade on top: @flaringk

Jade on bottom: @cartoonghosty

Vriska: @valle-de-sombra-de-muerte

Gamzee: @classpectpokerap

[swamp-land]

i want you to know: when i envision my bloodswap cronkri [purple!kankri/bronze!cronus] i imagine them in ur style

🥺👉👈

[ppppxseur]

characters that i believe are black

what are my qualifications you may ask? i'm black. thats it those are my qualifications

also if i see a single comment about "blackwashing" i will lose my SHIT, i swear to god

also theres no fandom order for this so good luck trying to figure out what's coming next

MINA ASHIDO (MY HERO ACADEMIA)

she breakdances, she's spunky, she's energetic. she's deffo one of those black girls who wears cookie monster pajama pants to school and adopts shy kids cuz she doesn't have that type of shame

like... need i make myself clear enough?

also she definitely has some sort of vitiligo

IZUKU MIDORIYA (MY HERO ACADEMIA)

i mean... he has no father. horikoshi practically screamed in my face that this kid is black as fuck.

he deffo cant cook tho, which i like to think is something that bakugou teases him relentlessly for

also this boy is tenderheaded as fuck and cries when mina does his hair

LUCINDA (APHMAU MCD/MYSTREET)

LOOK AT HER. look me in the eyes and tell me RIGHT now that that is not an albino black woman

you cant, im simply correct on everything

god i miss my girl. lucinda you deserve the world and you deserve all of the screentime and i cannot believe that bitch aaron SNATCHED the screentime that was rightfully yours

THE STRILONDES (HOMESTUCK)

"but do you mean all of-" YES. ALL OF THEM. they are all black and they are all jewish hussie told me so himself, argue with the GODDAMN wall.

ARADIA / DAMARA MEGIDO (HOMESTUCK)

my favorite weird girl <3

"but the megidos are asi-" WHY ARE YOU IN MY HOUSE. SHUT UP.

first of all the fact that damara's typing quirk was just Straight Up Japanese (and not even GOOD japanese either) is NOT the best fucking look if you want to potray another race. but also people can be biracial that is a thing and i hc the megidos as being blasian.

there is everyone happy? good now lets keep going

NEPETA / MEULIN LEIJON (HOMESTUCK)

(my second favorite weird girl)

(my THIRD favorite weird girl)

i dunno. theyre my faves. i love them. therefore they are black. i feel like i dont need much explanation other than that

KARKAT / KANKRI VANTAS (HOMESTUCK)

ugh. the thing that sucks about ones with family (or... i guess in the trolls case, the closest thing of "family" you can get) is that you have to make them all the same race or otherwise you have to explain the weird shit

kankri is lightskinned and uses his white passing privilege for evil.

also before you even THINK about trying to pass off white vantas: LOOK at their fucking storyline. just LOOK at it.

(before i move on from homestuck, i just wanna mention a quick side note: i didnt include gamzee or kurloz for one Very Obvious reason and thats the fact that, just like damara and her incredibly broken and bad Japanese as hussie's horrendous attempts to include other races in homestuck, i simply believe that the notion of all purple bloods being naturally incredibly violent is Not A Good Look. especially adding in that the only reason why gamzee is pacified is because he's doing the troll equivalent of hard drugs. and you can make an argument because... well.. what about kurloz? and to that my response would be WHAT ABOUT HIM? because i dont remember dick diddly and SQUAT about him and i dont really care.

so yeah i didnt include the makaras because while i do believe they are black i dont believe theyre the best representation because the only reason why people think that is because of the incredibly racist undertones of it)

ANYWAY i'm doing ONE more because this thread is already so goddamn long

POPPY AND VIVA (TROLLS)

the silliest girls possibly in the entire universe. i think they're black and hispanic mixed (im thinking maybe dominican or cuban)

ANYWAY! end of this long ass fucking thread. i cant believe my first fucking post on this account was this monster of a thread

anyway, follow me if you like any of these fandoms ig

[serfuzzypushover]

purple kankri?

NO STOP DONT GIVE THE SJW PRIVILAGE NOOOOO

[wormzspring]

Kankri purple guy?!

[hsoppositezodiac]

More info about the trolls (part 8)

Kankri Vantas | Purpleblood - Prospit - Prince of Blood

Basically this clown tells the most offensive jokes you've ever seen. He also has a tendency to make people stay far away from him, yet a certain guy just doesn't seem to want to leave him be.

Like in canon, things such as his land, fetch modus, screen name, etc. are unknown. Though, his quirk stays the same.

Caliginous crush: Cronus Ampora

Godtier? No

Meulin Leijon | Violetblood - Derse - Bard of Heart

Beware: this cute looking lady may shatter your heart and betray you when you least expect. You never know. She enjoys talking and being the center of attention.

Like in canon, things such as her land, fetch modus, screen name, etc. are unknown. Though, her quirk stays the same

Ex-Matesprit: Kurloz Makara | Kismesis: Meenah Peixes | Formerly had a pale crush on Horuss Zahhak, but seeing how he wasn't interested, she let him be

Godtier? No

Porrim Maryam | Fuchsiablood - Prospit - Thief of Space

Like her Alternian version, she has a tendency to steal designs and take all the credit for it, since she's a fuschia — the highest on the spectrum — she gets away with the crime easily. She'd be the kind of person who you would tell your creative idea to, and she'd take it all to herself; she'd be the kind of girl that would jump the queue.

Like in canon, things such as her land, fetch modus, screen name, etc. are unknown. Though, her quirk stays the same, and in the land case, its presumed that it probably has frogs in the name like the other space bounds.

Matesprit: Damara Megido | Ex-Moirail: Aranea Serket | Kismesis: Latula Pyrope

Godtier? Yes

[propheticclown]

I need you all to understand. I've seen so many people talk about how Eridan would be slaying the fashion scene. How his fashion sense is awesome and epic, or whatever. NO! Firstly, I wanna preface this by saying that Pesterquest falls under the category of "Dubiously Canon." so his massive closet isn't actually canon. But secondly, LOOK AT HIS FUCKING FIT, MY GUY!

THE DEEP BLUE WITH THE PURPLE??? THE CAPE??? THE HAIR??? BROOOOOTHER!!! THEY EVEN CHANGED THE COLORS OF HIS SCARF AND PANTS TO LOOK BETTER IN PESTERQUEST!

It's subtle but the color shifts towards indigo/cobalt rather than royal blue. "B-But what about March Eridan? March Eridan looks good and is canon!" I don't know how brainrotted you are from buying all your clothes from shien (derogatory) and temu (derogatory) to think that March Eridan looks good, but let me just show you what it looks like again to refresh your memory.

Ignoring the insanity that's even happening with this image in the first place, this IS the Original March Eridan image. Now let me tell you why this fit is more atrocious than Kankri Vantas' takes on feminism. 1. THE COLORS DO NOT WORK!!! His VIOLET symbol combined with MAGENTA arm warmers and thigh highs and a RED SKIRT???? AUUHHG NONE OF THESE COLORS LOOK AESTHETICALLY PLEASING TOGETHER IN A FASHION SENSE!!! NAME ONE TIME RED AND PURPLE HAVE EVER LOOKED GOOD TOGETHER IN TERMS OF FASHION??? 2. STRIPES AND FUCKING PLAID??? WHAT??? IN CARTOONS, MUSIC, BOOKS, AND EVEN FUCKING GAMES, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH "Ew stripes and plaid." IS SAID??? THAT IS LIKE THE NUMBER 1 NONO IN ANY FASHION WORLD!!! 3. AND WHILE THIS ONE IS A BIT OF A STRETCH, THERE IS NO CONVINCING ME THAT ERIDAN AMPORA WOULD WILLINGLY WEAR THIS SHIT! IT JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE FOR HIS CHARACTER TO WEAR THIS OUTFIT! FASHION IS A WAY OF EXPRESSING ONESELVES! FASHION, AS A MEDIUM OF ART, IS A WAY A PERSON CAN EXPRESS HOW THEY FEEL ON THE INSIDE! March Eridan as an outfit, artistically expresses confidence, empowerment and a general "I'm a bad bitch you can't kill me" energy. Here's the problem. Eridan at his base components is envious, closed off, emotionally volatile, and a massive fucking nerd, which the old outfit actually does express.

His clothes are long-sleeved, showing the least possible amount of skin he can, which usually can represent being closed off. His cape is large and grandiose, showing that he likes to be exaggerated and theatrical. His scarf indicates his nerdiness, with it being a reference to Harry Potter and how it could be a tie-back to his nerdy love of wizards. The only other outfit he's shown wearing is with a flashback to when he and Vriska were a kismesis.

Here the outfit, even with as little as we see of it, is big and intense. Unlike Vriska, who essentially doesn't change outfits, Eridan puts time and effort into each theatrical performance he considers himself to be a part of. He adores intricate and exaggerated outfits. Things that are fancy, complex, and over-the-top. So that even though he doesn't feel great on the inside, even though he feels as though he's "wworse than evverybody. all the bodies." He can still look well put together. And that's WHY I don't think March Eridan as an outfit works. It's too casual for him. It's not big or flashy in a way he likes. There's not enough for him. It doesn't cover him up and because of that, he'd feel exposed. He's not closed off anymore. It doesn't exude "Eridan Ampora". Who's "most casual" piece of apparel is probably a sweater vest.

Even in the original image, he looks uncomfortable, like he doesn't actually LIKE wearing it. The only way I can find this artistically working from a writing standpoint is if Kanaya made it for him because, in the story, it is shown time and time again that Kanaya doesn't understand Eridan, so by making him this outfit, she'd take it a step further by not even understanding what he likes. Kanaya doesn't understand that Eridan is terrified of being culled, because Kanaya doesn't have to worry about that. Kanaya doesn't understand the pressures Alternian society is forcing upon him, as an Orphaner. Because Kanaya's only societal expectation is raising the new mother grub. Kanaya doesn't think about how he's most likely going to live the longest out of all his friends. Eridan has the second highest lifespan out of every troll blood color, but even then with Feferi, she's most likely going to get culled by the Condense when she's the proper age to inherit the throne. So in Eridan's mind, he's going to be alone, expected to be an Orphaner until the day he dies, utterly alone to feed Feferi's lusus until he eventually succumbs to old age or dies in war. That's why he's so closed off, yet so emotionally grand. That's why March Eridan doesn't suit him from a fashion-artistic standpoint. It's not what Eridan Ampora embodies as a character. Envy.

[ask-kankri]

Kankri, what is that in the picture frame behind your bed?

ID: Kankri sitting in bed next to a framed item. The item is purple and looks akin to a wand, syringe, or knife.

"Cronus' magic wand!"

[hostilemuppet]

people say "mom friend" as if a female character can't just be nice or worry for her friends. not the best example, but back when i first got into homestuck (didn't know much english, was fairly new to the internet) i was so confused at the THOUSANDS of fanart showing kanaya as karkat's mom. and every AU or fic i saw afterwards had rosemary as the "adoptive moms" of de-aged characters, like....homie i'm gonna need you to take a chill pill.

the thing with kanaya specifically is that she is, thematically, tied with motherhood. she is virgo, the virgin maryam. a big part of her arc is how she feels like a failure for being unable to continue her species the way a jadeblood is supposed to, and its largely why she resonated with so many lesbians and trans women. but people took it to such the wrong conclusion, its insane. the entire point of 10/12 of the alpha trolls was to make fun of fanon flanderisation of the characters, and one of the ways this is shown is porrim maryam babying kankri vantas. yeah, kanaya loves her friends, but i dont think theres a single point where she actually acts "motherly" towards any of them. shes just a decent person to them, because she is a decent person. but for act 5, shes not a mum. she is 13 years old. with other friends who are 13 years old. her desire for motherhood wasnt actually a desire for motherhood, it was so she wouldnt fail her purpose. which is a very obvious allegory to how women in real life are treated more like prized breeding horses and caretakers than actual people, especially with how jadebloods are almost exclusively female. once again, porrim brings this up, by pointing out how even if alternia has a matriarch, its still a misogynistic society ("fuschia down matriarchy, purple down patriarchy"). but people just saw kanaya, who was 13, and decided she just really wanted to be a mum, you guys. she wanted to be a housewife.

she was 13

[davekat-sucks]

right, and that last point is also wrong, because if anything, by their same logic, highbloods are coded to be white

kankri explicitly uses the terms "cerulean savior complex" and "blue blood's burden", and gives an equivalent to "white savior" to all the highblood castes: Cerulean saviors, Teal templars, Violet valiants, and Purple paladins

mituna also calls meenah a wader, which could allude to cracker or wigger. so either the nu fandom concedes that their precious darling mituna is actually racist as fuck by saying the troll n word, or meenah is coded white... and mituna is still racist

If you tell them that their Gamer Boy might be racist or Meenah (and the other highbloods) are like white people, then they will flip. Because for most of their life, they would headcanon them as POC. Except for Eridan and/or Cronus cause Amporas. They see Gamzee as offensive because of black stereotypes (hair and speech) and that the juggalo makeup is actually WHITEWASHING. And if you argue that the ICP band is technically made up of white guys, then they will say they are RAP artists. RAP is only exclusively a black artform and others who do it are STEALING their music culture.