#pure beef
Explore tagged Tumblr posts
Text
Come and get your beef.....
Google ImageFX
28 notes
·
View notes
Text
K-POP: what needs to stop in the K-pop. Industry of K-pop: Problems K-pop Fans: Problems
TW - Mentions of Phobias: Acrophobia, Ranidaphobia, and Fear of Fireworks; Mentions of PTSD. Please skip if these topics are triggering for you. Proceed with caution.
—what needs to stop in the k-pop industry—
Companies Not Taking Their Idols’ Phobias Seriously
------------------------------------------
SITUATION #I. - LEE KNOW (STRAY KIDS/JYP)
Lee Know has Acrophobia, which is the fear of heights.
Stray Kids performed their song “Thunderous” for the ‘2021 CHANGWON K-POP WORLD FESTIVAL’. The performance took place…on top of a very tall building.
youtube
Now if you’re a Stay (or even if you’re not a Stay), you would know how great of a dancer Lee Know is. His body movement is beautiful and he has such good flow and flexibility. His stage presence is amazing too.
However, as we can see in the video below, Lee Know struggled to perform on the roof of the building. We can see him make smaller movements when doing the choreography, and he’s constantly looking down despite being in the front, where he would usually look into the camera.
youtube
A lot of people have pointed out how wrong this was. He has a phobia, an actual medical problem, where he’s afraid of heights. But they made him perform on top of a building?
And what makes this worse is that apparently, this isn’t even the first time. Lee Know had to perform on top of a roof before too.
This really makes me sad, you can see how he really tried to do his best even though he clearly wasn’t comfortable.
SITUATION #2. - HENDERY (NCT/SM)
The next situation was extremely horrifying to watch.
In an episode of WayV Dream Plan, Hendery and Lucas has to enter a frog filled room to complete a challenge. Lucas, while disliking and being disgusted by frogs due to something that happened in his childhood, isn’t really afraid of them. Hendery, however, has Ranidaphobia, an actual extreme fear of frogs.
dailymotion
(the challenge starts at 16:44 and finishes at 29:30, though the part with Hendery finishes earlier)
The room they were in contained real, live frogs. And there was even a frog on the floor.
Hendery was beyond terrified. He literally jumped on the walls and covered his eyes. He didn’t even step into the actual room because of how scared he was.
youtube
Ten and Yangyang went to go help them out and do the mission for them. As soon as they opened the door to come in, you can see Hendery run out of the room. He left so quickly.
A lot of people have pointed out how wrong and truly immoral this was. Even Hendery himself expressed how he didn’t expect the production team to do something so brutal.
Even though the point of the episode was for the members to face their fears, a phobia is beyond just a fear and they shouldn’t have made Hendery go through that.
SITUATION #3. - JOY (RED VELVET/SM)
Joy from Red Velvet is scared of fireworks, as she’s traumatized by seeing a firework explode right in front of her in the past.
During one infamous incident in 2019, Joy ran off stage after the fireworks started.
You can really see how distressed she looked. She really couldn’t pretend like everything was fine, she had to run off.
youtube
And she apologized for running off stage!Red Velvet Official on Instagram: "러비들😢미안하다는 말 하���싶어서 올려요ㅜ 예전에 눈 앞에서 폭죽 터지는 걸 본 이후로 폭죽을 많이 무서워하는데 오늘은 예상치 못한데다가 갑자기 이명까지 들려서 마지막 인사를 못한채 들어가게 되었어요.. 죄송합니다....지금은 괜찮아졌어요!! 걱정 끼쳐드려서 너무 죄송해요..😢 매 무대마다 잘하고싶은데 예상치 못한 순간들이 올 때마다 프로답게 대처하지 못하는 것 같아서 제 자신이 되게 미워지는데요.. 앞으로는 이런 일 없도록 마음 단단히 먹고 노력하겠습니다!! 죄송합니다ㅜ"Red Velvet Official shared a post on Instagram: "러비들😢미안하다는 말 하고싶어서 올려요ㅜ 예전에 눈 앞에서 폭죽 터지는 걸 본 이후로 폭죽을 많이 무서워하는데 오늘은 예상치 못한데다가 갑자기 이명까지 들려서 마지막 인사를 못한채 들어가게 되었어요.. 죄송합니다....지금은 괜찮아졌어요!! 걱정 끼쳐드려서 너무 죄송해요..😢 매 무대마다 잘하고싶은데 예상치 못한 순간들이 올 때마다 프로답게 대처하지 못하는 것 같아서 제 자신이 되게 미워지는데요.. 앞으로는 이런 일 없도록 마음 단단히 먹고 노력하겠습니다!! 죄송합니다ㅜ". Follow their account to see 3174 posts.https://www.instagram.com/p/BxU1l02g1e3/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
She wrote :
“Luvies, I’m posting because I want to say I’m sorry. I’m scared of fireworks after seeing a firework explode right in front of me in the past and it was unexpected. On top of that, I heard ringing in my ears and I went in without saying my final goodbye to you.. I’m sorry.. I’m okay now! I’m so sorry for causing you concern.. I want to do a good job at every performance and dislike myself when I can’t react professionally to unexpected moments.. I will strongly prepare myself and work hard so that this won’t happen again in the future! I’m sorry.”
It’s really sad that Joy felt she had to apologize for this and even disliked herself for acting…normally.
-----------------------------------
So my point is, companies should consider the phobias that idols have and make sure they don’t put the idols through these situations. It’s very harmful to the idols’ mental, and sometimes even physical health.
Think of how much better those performances would be if JYP didn’t make Stray Kids perform on top of the building, keeping Lee Know in mind, or if SM didn’t use fireworks to keep Joy safe.
So yeah, to conclude, companies should start taking phobias seriously, and fans too! Some fans make jokes about these phobias which is really disgusting. I know that some NCTzens make fun of Hendery for acting the way he did, and some people sent Eric Nam photos of rats after he stated in an interview that he is scared of them.
I hope that in the future there are no more incidents like these and that idols feel comfortable doing the things they love!
✎ ̼ ◡̈ idols being criticized for their body types .
there are so many idols who are suffering due to the crazy amount of toxicity in the entire k-pop fandom, and there are so many reasons, invalid hate, body-shaming, visuals, skills, sasaengs, etc., etc.. but let’s zoom in to a particular type of hating that i am against.
body shaming, hating someone for the way their body looks. first, body shaming. the amount of hypocrisy that the haters have here is mind-blowing. there are so many idols out there who are constantly skinny-shamed and are accused of having eating disorders, like rosé, lisa, somi, wonyoung, etc.
but what if they are naturally like that? did you ever consider that before bashing them for their body and accusing them of having an eating disorder, which is not a light thing to be talked about? why do you talk like you know everything and anything when you don’t even know the idols in real life, behind the cameras and their personas?
you say they should gain weight, but what do you say when they gain weight are at a healthy weight? they receive so much inhuman hate, fat-shaming, calling them a pig, ugly, etc.. do you have common sense? what makes you think hating on them like this just because of their weight is okay to you?
you call yourself a fan, yet you criticize every single thing you don’t like about them, what is this fandom coming to? a fan was supposed to be people who support the idol for who they are right now. why go on nitpicking on the small things when the idol seems perfectly happy? do you realize, you are making them sadder when you add posts, comments that hate on their body, that is not a worry for your faves? that is body shaming.
✎ ̼ ◡̈ people invalidly hating an idol .
i am so sick and tired of seeing random people hop onto those hate bandwagons before even learning properly about the situation. for example, giselle’s scandal. when people were criticizing her for mouthing the n-word, other people who had not liked totally unrelated things such as her visuals, dance, rap, singing, etc., took this as a chance to hate on her for those things as well.
this makes no sense at all. i get that you might not have liked an idol from the beginning. there are some people in life that you might not go well with, and that person just might have been that idol. this is okay, we do not have to love every single idol in the industry. this is actually close to impossible, but this is still not a reason to hate on an idol mercilessly.
why are you so openly expressing your dislike for an idol so much? do you have an idea what this does to the idol when they see it on their feed coincidentally? they do a lot of monitoring to see the reaction of netizens, how do you think this will impact them and their mental health? or do you even think about that at all? maybe not.
if you don’t like a certain group/idol, just literally leave them alone. don’t watch m/vs, don’t look up interactions, don’t go looking up their pictures posted on social media. do you realize, by doing these things, you are subtly giving them more support by giving more views and searches?
just go stan other groups you like, there is no reason to invalidly hate them and give them scars that cannot be taken back. no human deserves this. ever. there are some actually problematic idols that should apologize properly, but so many of the idols out there don’t deserve the hate they get.
#Youtube#kpop aesthetic#kpop imagines#kpop playlist#red velvet#text post#world news#world series#worldbuilding#woke madness#madness#pure beef#sadness#sad thoughts#i'm just saying#i'm done#i'm sad#i'm so tired#i'm sorry#i'm screaming#breakup#flame#bts bts#btd sano#bts fanfction#bts fanart#bts jjk#bts jhope#bts v#bts smut
4 notes
·
View notes
Text
this is the single worst way i've ever read to describe an erection, frank herbert
#the next line does call it 'the girder-shape of ecstacy' which is also bad but in a more abstract way than the pure horror of beef#wild that this is abt a 9yo's drug trip#children of dune#dune#speaking of how hard it is to write smut#cannot believe these sentences get published lol
28K notes
·
View notes
Photo
I’d join whatever party they were having
#party hard#pokemon#ghost type#pure beef#design excellence and bring exceptional quality to satisfy the needs of every aspiring fashionista.
8K notes
·
View notes
Text
"What the fuck did you do!?" Sam snaps, glaring at Tucker.
"I don't know!" The man in the chair replies helplessly, fingers tapping desperately as they crash landed not even seconds ago. Quote nicely actually.
"Where are we? Is this a new dimension? Tucker! Is danny here??"
"Sam, I swear if I knew I would be telling you!"
She groans, opening the latch of the ship and storming out. It was normal, similar to their own world.
Sitting down on the gras, grasping the greens of this world, she hums at the thriving energy pulsing.
"Who are you?" A teen in clad red and black holds his bo staff threateningly at her, behind him following a guy flying and two- a girl and boy- hanging back.
"No, who are you? What's up with those costumes?"
The boy blinks, taken aback.
"That's Robin," the flying teen says with a gruff, arms crossed. "I'm super boy. We're the Young Justice, you landed in that shabby thing-" He threw a thumbs up at their ship.
"In our city."
Sam doesn't know what to make out of them.
"Okayyy, what's up with the costumes again?"
Robin pipes in. "We're heroes."
"No fucking way." Them? Heroes? What.
"Yes, way." The one boy from the back appears in milliseconds, puffing his chest with a grin.
The blond girl follows with a sigh, it's fond and not a moment later is she back in confused stance.
"I don't believe you."
#dcxdp#dpxdc#dp x dc crossover#fic prompt#writing prompt#dc x dp prompt#dc x dp#dp x dc#dp x dc prompt#danny phantom#sam manson#tucker foley#sam is literally having beef with the young justice by pure spite#they met and she decided violence#theyre literally so confused too
2K notes
·
View notes
Text
0 notes
Text
#goinghome with brock boeser
#oh lord jesus#i just went to costco#and picked up some pure american beef#brock boeser#vancouver canucks
175 notes
·
View notes
Text
I know the discourse well is poisoned and no one hates bioware games more than bioware fans, but I am just 🫠 having so much fun with veilguard it's unreal. It is selfishly the dragon age game I always wanted. with less emphasis on cRPG, a more focused story, curated mission based design that spotlights the high fantasy stuff, slowburn structure with companions, significantly less sidequest bloat, and a fully real-time action-oriented combat system that isn't riddled with the growing pains of previous titles. when I first played origins I imagined something almost exactly like this as my ideal version of a sequel; and it was one of those dirty, selfish thoughts that I knew was disrespectful to the then-established DNA of the thing, but I can't help but feel giddy about having it here and now. like down to the shift away from the childishly dark tone and to something more inherently flexible with a baseline aspirational quality. I hate aesthetically depressing games so much. am I not alive right here and right now already
When I say "aesthetically" there though I do mean it. I'm fully on the opposite side when it comes to tone and positions expressed in the story itself. I am just not including that in my analysis because I am not done yet - so please no spoilers! I think I am where most people consider to be the second act, and I definitely have my gripes with the narrative framework and some of the optics, but I won't put the cart before the horse and will see how it wraps things up first. Above that level, in terms of how it presents itself, of how it plays, of how it balances its core pillars - it is such a bioware-ass game and I could not be any cozier in it. So grateful it exists
#and thank god for that reboot away from live service horseshit they were pushing. this is the most offline ass game in ages. bless#anyway no one is allowed to reblog this because people here aren't normal and I am afraid of spoilers#but I cant pretend not to adore every second of Beef Hilda Mercar and her adventures as a shadow dragon reaper#I have her fully invested in shield throws. that shit couldnt bounce better if zagreus was tossing it#also everyone is so pretty 🫠 this is the first time for me in a bioware game where like#purely aesthetically. i feel targeted and manipulated. these people feel designed around my tastes it's so embarassing#text#dragon age#okay I gotta mention one more thing. it is a very specific ass peeve I have#their dialogue system has never felt as.. nimble in their frostbite titles. something about the constant fades in and out and click delays#it all feels insecure on the engine-end side to me. maybe I am dumb. but veilguard also has this issue#like the original 2 DAs and the unreal engine mass effects had such snappy and frictionless selection-to-dialogue feel#and their frostbite titles I swear to god some greare is missing in the wheels there. here too. it is a LITTLE annoying since this is like#my favorite part of engaging with their games. it's not a huge issue but I have grown keenly attuned to it#inquisition had horribly bad delays in response selection. andromeda had those godawful delays in starting and ending convos#and those things are still somewhat present here albeit to a lesser degree. it feels like a streaming thing#idk. I do not make games. but I think that shit needs to feel smoother
96 notes
·
View notes
Text
Uhmmmmm soo. Over the past few months I've been seeing a lot of complaints or comments that digimon has too many designs which essentially boil down to “There are too many designs that are just humans in costumes.”
And for a while I just nodded my head and went Yeah Alright, because I Understood where it was coming from (the way most perfect + ultimate levels tend to become more humanoid over their predecessors) and thought it was a valid complaint even if I don’t agree. But eventually it got to the point where I got legitimately invested in wanting to know How Many Digimon there were that you could classify as “basically humans” and well. Here I am.
For the past week or so I came up with my own “categories” and counted how many digimon fit under each category to then later put into a graph like the one you see above ^
I did all of this for like, first and foremost My Own Interest, but I decided to share the results anyways in case someone else thinks this topic of discussion is interesting? I'll include as well under a read more a more in depth guide to the data i've accumulated as well
FYI, Important disclaimers: This is all highly subjective. Im not trying to claim these are any sort of objective categories canon to Digimon or that the results are objectively canon. You may think some or all of these categories are deeply redundant, or you will disagree with me over what counts as say, A Monster or A Furry or A Humanoid, and that’s fine. There are also digimon excluded from the total, most notably digimon that are cameo/minor characters in a singular digimon property, or recolours (ie Gabumon versus Psychemon) or which had minute design differences (Like, almost all of the different Agumons) because I thought including all of that was redundant or unnecessary. If there was a major difference in designs (ie Original Falcomon versus 2006 Savers Falcomon) however I did consider it as a separate design. Also, no X antibody designs were included, because oh my god there are already so many digimon and the X antibody designs could probably merit its own pie chart.
Baby 1 + 2:
Explicitly Creatures/Animals/Naturalistic Monsters/etc: 89
Inhuman/Monstrous in other ways (example- Robots/objects/undead): 17
Anthropomorphic animals/creatures (Furries, inclu robotic anthros): n/a
Humanoid but still inhuman/monstrous/weird in some way: n/a
Essentially humans/Humans in costumes: n/a
Rookie:
Explicitly Creatures/Animals/Naturalistic Monsters/etc: 73
Inhuman/Monstrous in other ways (example- Robots/objects/undead): 26
Anthropomorphic animals/creatures (Furries inclu robotic anthros): 7
Humanoid but still inhuman/monstrous/weird in some way: 7
Essentially humans/Humans in costumes: 4
Adult:
Explicitly Creatures/Animals/Naturalistic Monsters/etc: 96
Inhuman/Monstrous in other ways (example- Robots/objects/undead): 51
Anthropomorphic animals/creatures (Furries inclu robotic designs): 18
Humanoid but still inhuman/monstrous/weird in some way: 23
Essentially humans/Humans in costumes: 6
Perfect:
Explicitly Creatures/Animals/Naturalistic Monsters/etc: 64
Inhuman/Monstrous in other ways (example- Robots/objects/undead): 46
Anthropomorphic animals/creatures (Furries inclu robotic anthros): 39
Humanoid but still inhuman/monstrous/weird in some way: 46
Essentially humans/Humans in costumes: 9
Ultimate + Super Ultimate:
Explicitly Creatures/Animals/Naturalistic Monsters/etc: 68
Inhuman/Monstrous in other ways (example- Robots/objects/undead): 41
Anthropomorphic animals/creatures (Furries inclu robotic anthros): 48
Humanoid but still inhuman/monstrous/weird in some way: 95
Essentially humans/Humans in costumes: 17
Hybrid:
Explicitly Creatures/Animals/Naturalistic Monsters/etc: 7
Inhuman/Monstrous in other ways (example- Robots/objects/undead): 4
Anthropomorphic animals/creatures (Furries inclu robotic anthros): 6
Humanoid but still inhuman/monstrous/weird in some way: 8
Essentially humans/Humans in costumes: 7
Armour:
Explicitly Creatures/Animals/Naturalistic Monsters/etc: 40
Inhuman/Monstrous in other ways (example- Robots/objects/undead): 5
Anthropomorphic animals/creatures (Furries inclu robotic anthros): 11
Humanoid but still inhuman/monstrous/weird in some way: 7
Essentially humans/Humans in costumes: 1
#digimon#dinu yells into the void#dinu yells in the void#long post#sorry for being insane. it will happen again#again this is all purely for Fun and im not trying to like get on a high horse and start beef with people who dont care for humanoid mons#Especially because im not gonna lie a lot of these categories were really hard to do 😭 like deciding which digimon fit under which label#i had a lot of weird specific only i would get it nuances and im probably a lot more gracious/generous to certain mons then others#like i personally considered basically any humanoid who had any kind of unique nonhuman aspect like wings or weird proportions or#unnatural skintones to be like considered inhuman or nonhuman in some way bc well#obvs if you saw someone like that in public normally you wouldn’t think theyre a normal human#im also not a furry so I truly had no idea what counts as a Furry design or not but honestly the biggest surprise i got was finding out how#little anthro designs there actually is in digimon. thought there'd be more!#i might one day come back to do the x antibodies but this took foreverrrr#and i think i might have accidentally fucked the data anyways either from forgetting to include a mon or adding it to the wrong score#oh well
145 notes
·
View notes
Text
To add onto my Odysseus and Neoptolemus idea: bring Diomedes into the equation. Odysseus and Diomedes as a duo but now they're involuntarily stuck with Neoptolemus, "you brought him here and now you're responsible for him" style. Diomedes can get along with him, as he understands being brought to war so young, but Odysseus? The two can't be left alone together. They can't stand each other. Arguing every five minutes, constantly bitching. This has comedy potential if you allow yourself the imagination
#diomedes: hey odysse-#odysseus: gods i hate that fucking kid.#i think it would be fantastic for odysseus to have beef with a kid. that's “i've been here for 10 years i'm sick of this bullshit” odysseus#so it's entirely plausible#this idea is pure crack but let me indulge myself
74 notes
·
View notes
Text
They never met in canon because their pettiness would cause the planet to implode.
Og
#monaca towa#danganronpa#yasuke matsuda#dr0#dr udg#scardraws#Monaca just has beef with everyone in Junko's life#Never Junko tho#And Junko does NOT care#She finds it very entertaining to watch almost grown adults deal with her#Also why Monaca and Mikan didn't have a scene in DRS together#Just pure bitchy-ness#Truly a mini Junko
81 notes
·
View notes
Note
Can I give Tapestry PV a boxing glove so he can punch his SM at any time /silly
Instructions unclear: he's...painting on them?? I think???
Guess he's not too keen on beefing with shilk/silly
#askbox stuff#crk au#pure vanilla cookie#Tapestry'sWispers!AU#Tapestry'sWispers!Pure Vanilla#silly AU asks !!#pewpaw's not a beef fan#He'd be down to if needed but not with Shilk specifically#At least only in retaliation#the guy's pretty intimidating/silly
46 notes
·
View notes
Text
did anyone else see that the fake f1 team for the f1 movie made a fake team instagram page to post their fake results? because me and my friends did, and our first thought was genuinely
#gonna be trolling like you can’t beleeeeeiiive#I’m gonna be in the comments making up beef and completely throwing off their stupid fucking plot#like when are you going to address the allegations??? is anyone going to mention driver mcbradpitts new cereal line???#just pure causing shit#god willing I make some of the screenshots or whatever they’re hoping to get from this unusable#formula 1#f1#f1 movie
37 notes
·
View notes
Text
anyway I am going to spoil everyone's fun. The Mummy is a racist movie, it's frustrating that it's popular and no one discusses that, and let me explain why
Whitewashing/brownface/self orientalism. The Carnahan's are meant to be mixed race. Their actors are white. Oded Fehr is white and a significant portion of his career has been playing exotic brown people in media made for white people, specifically while weaponizing the ethnic ambiguity he does have. Imhotep is white- insult to injury, his actor is an Afrikaner! Playing a pre-colonial African character! The only Egyptians played by people who arent white are the sex pest warden, Dr. Bey (also a minor character who dies), and Anck-su-namun. None of their actors are Egyptian.
The portrayal of Egyptian men. The warden and Jonathan are both portrayed as pathetic, weak, morally circumspect, and the warden is a pervert. Imhotep is also a pervert, frankly. The Egyptian public at large- mostly male crowds and male workers- are literally canon fodder and senselessly killed on multiple occasions. They're turned into mindless zombies, with no consideration given to what happens to them afterwards. Did hundreds of people just die? In public? The only two Egyptian men that aren't utterly horrible are Evie's boss, Dr. Bey, and Ardeth.
The portrayal of Egyptian women. The only two we actually hear speak is Evie and Anck-su-namun, both of whom have orientalist tropes applied to them- Evie, when they make her dress "local", and Anck-su-namun with the whole titlating "the pharaoh has me walk around naked and covered in wet body paint so no one can touch me without him knowing" nonsense- similar tropes are applied to Ardeth, frankly, with how his tattoos are portrayed, his ethnic background, etc. They specifically chose tattoos a Western audience would still find sexy (which aren't based on the actual local tattooing traditions). Face veils in early 20th century Egypt didn't really look like that, even the ones you might call flirty, and I find portrayals that make Ancient Egyptian society's overall often greater comfort with bared skin into titillation for the audience pretty offensive, especially as there are currently existing cultures in Africa viewed through lenses like that. It's not merely ahistorical, it's apart of a broader issue with how living people are viewed by others.
This is more of a me thing, other Egyptians may not agree: I think mummies as a horror trope are racist. The key fear to mummy movies is that white people might get punished for disturbing the graves of the honored dead. You are asked to identify with literal colonizers and view the local population as antagonistic (past and present in this case), especially in this movie, which is set before England started pretending it wasn't controlling Egypt (and by the damn way, ask ANY Egyptian when the country got independence and we'll say 1956. Between 22 and 56, England still had explicit control over some of the government, notably foreign relations and military, it used this an excuse to justify control of Sudan, and it was militarily occupying the country, especially the Suez area. When King Farouk tried to make a decision they didn't like, they put his palace under seige. That is not independence. Whoever made the 1922 declaration the first result on Google is manufacturing apologia for imperialism).
#cipher talk#There is a great deal of complexity with the Abdeen Palace incident and I don't think Farouk was in the right- I think the royal fam were#Fucking idiots frankly and I'm glad we're rid of them. But the fact that it happened???#the mummy 1999#ardeth bey#Like Britian didn't have moral reasons to oppose Farouk's politics. It was purely a matter of who they were allied to#Anyway. Duh the stupid mummy movie is racist but I have personal beef with the stupid mummy movie
384 notes
·
View notes
Text
Hollow Knight shit posts I made after finishing the dream no more ending.
#not-a-post#hollow knight#the pale king#the pure vessel#little ghost#hollow knight meme#crossover#bill wurtz cameo#kevinturnertunes cameo#sauron#queen elsa#funny bugs#the godly beef in hollow knight is objectively horrifying but also prime real estate for haha funnies#also comparing the hollow knight with elsa made me realize thay i definitely headcanon Hollow as a girl#she just has girl vibes#unfortunately daddy issues have overridden all gender exploration so she doesn't know that she's a girl
27 notes
·
View notes
Note
I don't get why people hate the timeline so much, its not like you can't pretty much completely ignore it when you play the games. The only time it even approaches mattering to the story is when there is an explicit sequel like botw and totk or zelda and zelda 2
Hey sorry your ask got lost in the sauce of my broken tumblr, but: yeah!
I mean, I get why in some sense. It's been a heated point of debate and I think some people understandably resent the space it has taken not only in fandom discourse, but in how people began to understand the game and its narrative aesthetic choices. There is such a thing as over-rationalizing everything to hard logic, and sometimes it's just not the fandom for that --especially when you begin to forget it's all just fan theory and start to forget what the games are supposed to be like and evoke beyond just strict facts displayed in a linear way.
What I think bugs me with TotK in particular is that it both evokes and relies on continuity and the idea of a timeline, of archeology, of history itself, while being so loose and vacant with it that it both is doing Timeline Shit while also completely failing to understand why some parts of the fandom were invested in Timeline Shit to begin with.
But that's just my two cents of course!
#asks#tloz#timeline#totk critical#thanks for the ask!#I do... feel two ways about that myself#I think pure evocation is genuinely one of zelda's greatest storytelling strengths#that mood is sufficient and enough in itself and doesn't always need justification#it is the way the games center story --and that's genuinely wonderful and a strong take on narrative in games#as something freeflowing and accompanying gameplay rather than the opposite#and to ignore that and focus on hard facts all of the time kind of misses the point of the games' stories to a degree#BUT#I also get quite annoyed at the weird condescencion towards fans that do decide to engage with the stories more factually#especially since this is either revelatory regarding some of nintendo's choices#(that the aesthetics of evil are so tied to The Desert TM while taking so many inspirations from european fairy tales for example)#(it's not neutral even if we ignore ingame “lore”)#or just a great fodder for creativity and narrative play#and it is a part of the IP too!! just as much as dungeons and items and musics and curiosity-driven exploration!!#I do have beef with people not resonating with that aspect thinking others that do so are just stupid or childish#and that you can only have an enlightened relationship with zelda if you like it “the right way”#(which is somehow always mechanics/logic-driven which is. interesting to me.)#(or in a completely passively aesthetic way as in “I like fairies they're pretty”)#but you know it's the weird Triforce Shirt Dude stigma thing#that notion that you can (and must!) Love Zelda Deeply and Defensively#but you cannot be *passionate* about Zelda#then it's weird and immature#I don't know I feel like there's a lot to analyze in that arbitrary dychotomy#anyway sorry for the mega novel in the tags!!
18 notes
·
View notes